Heaven Artist Let me help you with make it when being broke D.I.Y like patches custom rips dye something sew two pieces to make one unique one print stuff onto shirts buy stuff from aliexpress just be creative
monica n it just means she is able to actually evoke this grand emotion in people. despite the emotion being negative, they still take the time and effort to hate her (aka they can't get her off their mind even if they tried because they hate her- it's a twisted compliment. but hey she's still happy, she's getting lifted!!!)
Alia Roslan I also forgot her. I love her song with Usher and I love her vocal style. I'm wishing CL the best but I have to admit Dami Im has caught my eye, She is a power house like Charice was.
I don't mind her taking up a different persona for her US debut so long as she puts out good music and also never lose that Chaerin side in her. I won't expect 2NE1 to exist forever but I hope the members never forget what they had together with us Blackjacks all these year. They mean a lot to me as they appeared in my life where I was struggling to accept my differences and I hope it meant something to them as well, the way they helped people learn that it was okay to go against the norm and it was okay to not be perfect all the time. Don't lose yourself gurl. Love you since 2009~ ❤
How do you know that's the real her? In Korea, you have to keep up a certain image, personality, and concept; you're basically a brand to a record company, this is no secret, it is what it is. I'd believe it more that this is her trying to be her true self, rather than vice versa, now that she actually has a say in her music. She's not in the US, doing bubblegum/fake badass KPOP. She's here as a solo artist to do HER.
xmirame If you were onto them since the very start and watched all their behind the scenes you can tell what is real and what's not. Just a simple one would be her habit of bringing a rilakkuma plushie with her on her plane rides. In fact, 2ne1's CL is already different from Lee Chaerin in everyday life so yeah. I was talking about the way she presents herself during interviews and whatnot you can clearly tell that she is holding herself back and putting up a front. How is that the real her when every words she says in these interviews just feels so calculated? But I won't blame her though she should do what she needs to do. I just don't want her to lose herself. This is what I think it's like so don't bother arguing my opinion.
moonbinfluenza how is she taking a different persona? She always idealize herself in her every piece of music she wrote (I'm the baddest female, etc). That's her brand. Whichever Chaerin we know, is the one Cl put out for the world to see.
shes right. It takes so much energy to hate, cause chaos, think and write hateful messages that is pathetic and at the same time wasteful. If people took even half that amount of feelings to say something nice to the things they loved they would create something truly beautiful. I saw her Live in Seattle and words cannot express how grateful i was to see her trying so hard singing so much, dancing so effortless. Shes CL because she created herself as such. The years of pain and hard work are and will payoff CL!
I was at that concert too, it was one of the best ones I've ever experienced. She's got an amazing game on stage. The more people that notice her will inevitably lead to more hate, but also more love. A lot of people on CZcams are sour 'cause they want 2NE1, not CL, which is understandable, but to hate on her because she wants to do her own thing is not called for. Hopefully the positive voices will drown out the hateful ones over time, but until then I suppose it's good for a laugh. CL appreciates the hate in any case. I'm hoping the best for her debut.
The first, “Birthday,” is half-delivered in Korean, while the other, “One,” is described by Diplo as a “real pop, teenage-graduation kind of fun, kid record
Riley Westbrook nah I don't because it's not the truth. She will be relevant but not right now because she JUST came into the American scene but get her some time and you'll see.
Riley Westbrook 'Bout people don't know about her. If I live in the Caribbean and know about her, twice as many people in America know her but just don't say anything about her that's all. And if you a k-popper you MOST know about CL. But anyways, she is SO not irrelevant so you can stop hating on her, like, what she do to you for you to call her irrelevant???
Riley Westbrook Oooooo soo now she needs to go back to Korea, huh!?!? You know what, mayyybe you right. Maybe she isn't as popular as American idols but one thing I know for sure is that she is WAYYY more popular and relevant than you are and will ever be. Now, would you kindly fuck out hater?? Please and thanks.
It would be impossible for me to reply to every single comment on here about my thoughts on CL's method in breaking into the states, so I'm gonna make a new comment regarding my thoughts. First, I don't think CL was denying that the US market is a hard one to break. she talks about doing it right, and part of doing it right is taking time with it. It's not like the South Korean market which is much more fast paced and it's just so over saturated. When CL says she's taking time to do it right, she's not incorrect, because time is part of doing it right. Through these past years she's been building connections and becoming more visible to non kpop fans, which is a tedious but completely necessary process. Secondly, I do feel that CL's persona is a bit off putting in general. She talks and sings and raps about being the baddest bitch but that's not her. Yes, a stage persona can simply be a character, but, I'm not gonna put out a rap saying I grew up in Compton and I was in a gang and I drink forties or whatever because that's a legit lie. The difference is that a character can almost be a fantasy or something fake, when Cl's persona as a bad bitch is fake for her, but a real thing for others. And that's off putting, acting like you're about a life when you aren't. I'm not saying she should be bubblegum and sweet, but come on, she's seriously not apart of that lifestyle. Third, I've seen some people say how they don't like CL saying she wants to be a crusader or representation for Asian American women because she's not Asian american and that the stereotype has already been broken. Let me just say that as an Asian American Woman, that it would be completely ignorant to say that the stereotypes have been broken. We do have more Asian women in media, Constance Wu is a great example, but we are still so limited in public figures. While CL by far won't be the first Asian she'll still be one of the few, and we need that. The US is a huge country, I live in Socal so maybe I don't experience too much racial profiling and racism in my every day life but what about Asians in the mid west, Asians in the south, where maybe there aren't very many Asians and they face these stereotypes. Finally, if you're a kpop fan and you don't like CL's work in America that's fine. People need to realize CL isn't trying to bring kpop to America. CL is trying to debut in the American market as a solo artist. She won't being doing kpop. So if you feel alienated because you feel CL is changing too much to fit American tastes, I'm just gonna say suck it up because when entering the American market kpop fans are not her priority. It's the general mass of Americans, that's her target audience and yea you may not like it but respect that's what she's going for. Overall I'm supporting CL in this endeavor, more as an Asian American woman than a kpop fan tbh. It's gonna take time and effort but if she chips away at it I think she's in the right direction.
Well I don't know why you quote " lifted " as something from her personality when obviously this song is not serious and it's a sample. It is not hard to understand that some people act a certain way depanding on areas and people without doing it on purpose. Does it means they are fake ? No, that's just the way they have been educated. ON stage : she's the bad bitch, strong aura with lot of enrgy OFF stage : she's just quiet, reserved and nice and everything make her who she is.
MoussaKendy my point is i'm not really a fan of how extreme she has taken her on stage persona. It's not just lifted. Some of her lines from dirty vibe go along the same lines. She can still be bad ass and strong but in the future i wish she could stop acting like she's from the Bronx or Compton or something because she's just not. I'm not saying these actions are fake, but they're fake when she raps about doing them. Because she's not from that background. For example, dumbfoundead raps about some pretty hard shit, but he's not some "character", dumbfoundead actually lived through that he grew up in ktown and it was rough. Like when that shit Unpretty rapstar contestant truedy rapped about being one of Korea's first black people like wtf she isn't even black like even if she wrote those lyrics herself it's just off putting because it's not her.
Very well said :) thanks for taking the time. And I'm sure most of those people saying there's no stereotype anymore aren't asian american and don't know what they're talking about...
I really hope she makes it without loosing herself in the process. Trying to breakthrough the American market by trying to be American minus the fact that she's Asian. Now she better get herself in the recording studio and give us real music.
CJ B someone tweeted her "just be yourself, we miss Lee Chae Rin" and she replied with "I am always". People need to realize CL's sound and image will change some because she's doing her own thing freely, I hope people don't think she lost her self :(
I mean, it basically is a trend. CL got so much hate in her MV (look at the comments) because people who didn't bother to watch and learn about her were crying "CULTURAL APPROPRIATION!!" Many accused her of stealing the black culture. Except, guess what? HIP HOP IS A MUSIC GENRE. IT DOESNT BELONG TO YOU!! That's what that kid was talking about. People who know nothing about CL or her music or her passion hate for her music. They don't know anything because they never bothered to look into her. I myself an a feminist, but I do agree with him. Its become a trend
Feminism is definitely a trend when it comes to marketing campaigns e.g. H&M and Dove but outside the corporate sphere, they pertain to real issues too. If anything, I think black culture is the trend here. I watched her Lifted MV again and I don't think she's appropriating black culture (but that attempt at a Jamaican accent tho lmao...) but I guess it's not really my place to say anything since I'm not black. Overall, I think it's unfair of him to reduce feminism and cultural sensitivity to a social trend. Like how idiotic would it be if someone said to me, "oh you're only calling that person out cause it's a trend to be edgy" like no... cause maybe I actually care about feminism because it advocates for the dispersal of rape culture and maybe I actually care about cultural appropriation because I don't think its fair that the media praises Lady Gaga as a trendsetter for sporting dreadlocks but the host of Fashion Police can joke about Zendaya's locks "smelling like weed"
I think he wasn't necessarily trying to reduce it to anything, I think he's trying to say that there are some people who don't know what they're talking about and running their mouths on these issues just because they want to and treating them like a trend instead of a serious issue, I mean that's who I interpreted it but that's me
I adore CL, I want her to succeed in the USA and around the globe!! I support her to the end!!, I'm not a blackjack, but I like their music (2ne1), I just am attracted to strong females, , when I was a lil kid I wanted to be Donna Summers, my parents let me down as best they could, I was a scrowny white girl with no vocal range, lol, I took dance from 3 years old till 18, was in cheer, did choreography for my squad, was great with music, arranging, etc.. took that in uni, radio/tv/film, I never was a Donna Summers, however I feel my love for, and her music, her inner, outer beauty helped shaped the person I am!! if CL, helps girls from all walks of life, she's done a good job!!! I don't look at her as a South Korean, trying to do something she shouldn't, she needs to grab life by the balls and hang on tight!! cuz she will have great things happen for her, she's brave, beautiful and Hella talented!
I love when she said "I appreciate the hate".... this is just so YG style & CL style, she's definitely one of the kind. tbh it's still bit rare that such a successful and popular idol can be so positive about the hate
In my opinion, CL is going to keep climbing the staircase to success and power. Whether its in fashion, art, music or dance, she will keep dominating. Her reputation with 2NE1 has been flawless and powerful, no matter what people say. 2NE1 will always be the reason why she has become so successful in her career; also being how talented she is.-- --The point is that I am a huge fan of the group and really hate to say this but I think this is it for 2NE1. People say that they are still together, and even if or if not peaceful they have a contract to complete. But how strong can you keep a group together if its already breaking? Minzy has already left, Park bom has been MIA due to personal refection/ issues involving her past drug scandal, and CL is on her way to world domination. 2NE1 hasn't even had a single outing together since their 2015 MAMA appearance. How could CL ever possibly go back to a ( I hate to say it ) group who only has real power in Asia ( and us wall flowers across the globe)? The word is that CL is doing this USA debut(domination) in order to get 2NE1...advertising/ a ticket into the USA top hit charts/ a way to improve the groups success and reputation (considering 2014's drug scandal with park bom), but come one..does that make sense? In a way it does, but again CL is the beyonce of her group, and in my opinion, a star shines better on its own. CL might come back for one more comeback but in all honestly, their contract will always have an expiration date. Her true intentions are to succeed as a solo artist.
***** ***** maybe you should try and understand the content of what he said instead of focusing on the way he said it. Sometimes people from the streets have interesting and meaningful thoughts even if they don't express em in a conventional way.
sesame You don't always have to use high vocabulary to sound like you know what you're talking about. He had a very good point, just expressed it in s different way, learn to accept that.
Oh god!! I'm so proud of her she's amazing and I am sure she is gone a be fine i wish her all the best!! Cl figthing! Love u girl keep going we will support you.. :D
Really think she's a sweet girl and I am in no way a "hater", but in my opinion this whole "struggling Asian artist" vibe I'm getting does not match the real situation she's in. She is signed with a big label ( plus she's already signed to one of the biggest companies in South Korea) and has one of the most successful managers in the music industry by her side, an already big fanbase, and has connections to many influential people in the music and fashion industry and a high net worth. So I don't know why she's depicted as some unknown indie artist who is struggling to make it in the US. She's got way more than she needs.
Gala Xy it's all about the perspective; from an audience point of view yes, she seems like she's got everything and reached all the goals she needs. But from an industry standpoint it's different, for the artist and the creators it's always about pushing that boundary and America is a tough market to break. By this I mean, if you asked a random person in NYC if they know CL, they probably will say no. its not about the wealth, shes not doing it for that because she has that already; its about taking her career further and America rappresenta that to her.
Its not so much a "struggling Asian artist" ... starving artist thing. CL has a LOT of money and she's one of the most popular KPOP stars and has been for a LONG time. BUT ... its hard for Asians to get respect in America. CL struggles as do most Asians to be accepted as REAL and not just a "little thing imitating the big people". Korea has arguably the finest music industry on the planet right now ... and relatively few people are really aware of it outside of knowing about Psy and Gangnam Style. When Koreans come here and try to get successful ... they usually get made fun of and relegated to the back of the room. For those of us who pay attention - some of the incidents have been really embarrasing ... for us they barely register ... if at all. Over there - it is Yuuuggge. The time TMZ made fun of Asian artists about a year back. Tiffany (who is a Korean-American from San Fran btw) from Girls Generation getting disrespected at the first CZcams Awards when her group won the first ever Music Video of the Year for "I Gotta Boy" ... and some of the ways in which GG were talked to on various TV shows here the same year. The lack of respect Asian artists mostly get in Hollywood - where they've been picking White and later Jewish actors to play Asian parts for a hundred years. Examples - David Carradine getting Bruce Lee's role in "Kung Fu". Scarlett Johansson as Motoko Kusanagi in "Ghost in the Shell". Our media does little to introduce Americans to the myriad amazing aspects of Asian art. People in the West want to look down upon Asians - Westerners feel more comfortable with people they can look down on - especially intellectually. That usually doesn't work well with Asians for long - as most folks fairly quickly discover that the "little yellow people" (who really aren't either) can work harder, work longer, focus much better, and have a much higher sense of purpose, pride, and a history of creating culture and high intellectual acheivement when Westerners were still living in caves and wearing animal skins. Asians intimidate Westerners in their refusal to neither accept a low social status as a permanent limitation nor that they need the "charity of their Western betters" to succeed. Another thing is ... as a group, they don't do "victim" very well - the harder the struggle, the harder they motivate and as such - they aren't well like by folks who think they need "patronizing" by their "betters". Asians are hard people - they are very smart, they get trained hard (mostly by Tiger Mom's), and they tend to become cold in their emotions in public verses all touchy-feely as public displays of emotions are often discouraged in the more traditional parts of the various cultures. Westerners don't know how to emphathize ... or really even relate to most Asians especially with the vast structures of cultural tradition that permiate Asia that are opaque to most in the West. So yes, CL is a struggling artist ... as are all the other Asians who come here to try to add their culture to ours and teach us to appreciate theirs with the intent of earning the respect which they ARE so richly due.
Enjogior Studio I understand what her mission is and I agree with you, it's not easy to make it in the US. My point was, I wished she would victimise herself less since she's very privileged compared to unknown, struggling Asian -American artists who won't ever get that opportunity; It seems she's not aware of that.
MrBabylonandon In my opinion your overgeneralise "the Westerners"and it's even offensive. Not every westerner has ill feelings towards Asians. if that was the case, Kpop would not be so popular and people would not enjoy their culture as they do now. I think many enjoy the rich culture of Asians. About Cl, she is not an Asian-American and did not live or grow up in America to even face the racism and struggle many Asians face. I know she lived abroad for a while but I doubt that in those few years she struggled a lot ( although I cannot speak for her). Cl also doesn't bring anything from her own culture which would have made her debut much more interesting and refreshing. She just sells an image that she and people from her company have created, but it seems she's comfortable in that, which is fine , but not authentic. I think every minority group struggles to get into the music industry and many have to ask themselves whether they want to give in to "white America" and try to emulate their ideal standards, or if they want to embrace their own heritage or race and represent it in that their music. Cl, to me, did the first by completely leaving out her culture and being silent about any social issues (except for this interview)and instead trying to assimilate into the American Hip-Hop culture. Overall, the stuff she says is very egocentric. so from my perspective, she seems like a really unsuitable candidate to represent Asians in America; I doubt many that many Asian-Americans are going to identify with her.
i LIKE love cl. she inspires me so much especially as an asian american, she makes me feel like i can do anything no matter what people label me. love u mom
she's so thoughtful about what she says and what she does, especially as an artist. much respect for her. have been a fan of hers since 2ne1's debut and I look forward to seeing her succeed and inspire and gain a new audience and fandom in the US market
yes, Cl.. And 2ne1? Can't nobody hold us down huh? This is the saddest and the happiest thing for me.. Cl with new album, get it done gurl, but what about 2ne1? The group that got me in to K-pop? The most powerful girl group? Blackjacks will wait patiently.. :(
AlwaysOriginalForME No, but serious now I know she did and I feel so bad that it all fell apart just because of YG. I think it's stupid to call for a comeback when there would not be one, the least he could do for us Blackjacks was one last album or performance, but I guess this is what we deserve.. But I hope our queens will be succsessful even if they are not together❤️💔
I love what he said " music doesn't have an owner." Cl got so much hate because apparently an Asian women can't do what CL does. So many annoying assholes I'm her MV were crying "OMG CULTURAL APPROPRIATION!" Does music belong to you? bitch no, it doesn't.
The_White_Witch_ It's not the music per say it's the fact that she uses Black Culture as a prop and a gimmick in her music videos. the fact that she picks and chooses what she wants to use from black culture, makes money off of it and then pretends that she doesn't see color is disgusting. She's not even giving back to the culture that she's stealing from, she goes around pretending that this is her own original style.
XORIH You know what fuck you. hip hop is from the black culture okay fucking great. And Egypt gave us paper, China gave us porcelain and gun powder, Europe have us hoses and chickens, wheat from the middle east, most forms of art (cubism and shit were) Italian and white guys. Next time you go to taco bell or chipotle, just fucking don't okay. That's my culture. its "Mexican food" so no you can't eat it or make it because as a Mexican I don't like it when other people try and appropriate my culture. Okay yea? great
CL, I don't think avoiding the main issue is doing you any favors. The reason why it's taking you so long to break into the US market is because it's hard to break into the US market. There are not too many Asians that have done it in any form of entertainment. Also, it would be better to not alienate your already existing fanbase by adopting this entirely different persona just to break into the US market. Be yourself because you aren't doing yourself any favors by trying too hard. You aren't about that life. You are a "bad" girl when performing but there is nothing about your upbringing that was all that "hard" or "badass," which is TOTALLY FINE. Americans rip on anything they feel is not authentic and it's already a struggle to break stereotypes...so please, if you are going to do this, represent Asians better by being yourself.
I agree that it is hard to break into America, but I don't understand why you're saying she has a "different persona" and trying too hard. I've seen this CL since she did The Baddest Female. We all have. I don't perceive anything different. She's being herself.
I've been following her since her debut in 2009. Her baddest female persona is something she adopted for her solo debut. I personally feel like she needs to be more true to herself rather than try too hard to be "bad" or "American." I also don't like when she makes sweeping generalizations about how Asians are perceived in America in her interviews especially since she has been living here for like a minute. She talks about the struggle about breaking into America as if she's been doing it her entire life which is kinda bullshit.
Yoonbread Something she adopted for her solo debut? But I've seen this CL since forever. She's not even doing anything risqué or outrageous that I haven't seen her doing before. And it's just like you said: an stage persona that I've been seeing for quite a long time. You don't have to be living in the US for your entire life to know how a race is perceived there. You just have to belong to it. And how do you act american? How is she trying to be bad? I just don't understand where you're coming from.
StrawberryBlond21 I'm American...and I am also Asian American...and the fact that she's trying to be some type of crusader of sorts for Asian women is really off putting for me. Especially since she's speaking like she knows what it's like to be Asian in America. Like I've said, she's only lived here for like a minute. I've been her fan for years and I know for a fact that she speaks differently in her English interviews than she does in her Korean interviews. Maybe she's trying to cater to different crowds but it's really off putting for me to see her embrace this different personality as if she's this hardcore, bad ass chick. I don't know her personally so maybe this is a side of her that we've never seen before outside the stage but... it does not really make me want to support her because I feel like she's trying too hard to be someone she's not. 1. Stop talking for others, just focus on the music (you are singer not some cultural icon messiah for Asians) 2. stop making generalizations because it sounds ignorant. 3. Don't pretend like you aren't making any waves because you choose to "do things right." That's not true. You aren't making waves because it's hard to make it in America. Just admit it and it makes you look ten times more genuine. I am also under this impression that she feels like only this type of persona will help her make it in America which is not true at all. I don't know how else to explain it. Just my opinion.
Well, CL was cutesy at one point in her life (not cutesy as in Kpop girl cutesy but personality cutesy, go watch her old interviews and 2ne1 TV). But I am not holding that to her because people evolve and she's adopted the baddest female image from her solo debut. She likes it and feels like it represents her the best and that is cool...but I guess I am speaking more or less about how she's coming off from her interviews. She tries too hard to be hardcore...and this comes from how she describes her struggles about breaking the US market and trying to break stereotypes. It's not a good look for her. Look at how people ripped on Iggy Izalea. I just don't want CL to be another Iggy. Just focus on music CL.
I love her . I find inspiration in Korean music and her music that's why I want to produce music . I also find inspiration in G Dragon's music and producing style. I know Korean . I'm Native American, British, German and Irish. I'm going to college for music recording. ( @topbocadrgn is my twitter)
CL makes me want to improve my style 1000% but then I remember im broke af.
Heaven Artist oh my that Is so true 😟
Heaven Artist you can thrift, you would get cheap vintage clothes that would also be stylish
It's about style not brand, of course you can't afford these "Vêtements" hoodie but you can wear different outfit for good cost.
Of course, but the premblem is that we want like 2000 outfits lmao.
Heaven Artist Let me help you with make it when being broke D.I.Y like patches custom rips dye something sew two pieces to make one unique one print stuff onto shirts buy stuff from aliexpress just be creative
"Even if they hate me, I love that i can do that to them" just loved that.
"I appreciate the hate" lmao
she has issues, really.
I apreciate art.
monica n it just means she is able to actually evoke this grand emotion in people. despite the emotion being negative, they still take the time and effort to hate her (aka they can't get her off their mind even if they tried because they hate her- it's a twisted compliment. but hey she's still happy, she's getting lifted!!!)
lmao we already can see her awake a reaction from u lol she's amused she can cause that emotion in you lmfao
"so i wanna do it right, and that's why it's taking so long" applause
Yeah, you don't hear that often these days from American artists.
ikr 👏
Like CL said, it takes more energy to hate, and she's glad she can do that for you, LMAO!
...but its 2019 is next week
If any Asian artist can break into America, it's CL.
t e s s u should also include yuna (malaysian singer)
Alia Roslan I also forgot her. I love her song with Usher and I love her vocal style. I'm wishing CL the best but I have to admit Dami Im has caught my eye, She is a power house like Charice was.
Alia Roslan yuna is like half black thoe
Jayla Rutherford jhene is half black aswell
Jayla Rutherford she's american tho
I don't mind her taking up a different persona for her US debut so long as she puts out good music and also never lose that Chaerin side in her. I won't expect 2NE1 to exist forever but I hope the members never forget what they had together with us Blackjacks all these year. They mean a lot to me as they appeared in my life where I was struggling to accept my differences and I hope it meant something to them as well, the way they helped people learn that it was okay to go against the norm and it was okay to not be perfect all the time.
Don't lose yourself gurl. Love you since 2009~ ❤
moonbinfluenza yeah 2ne1 changing lifes since 2009, changed my too :) I wish they could be together again not just CL solo, but dreams..
How do you know that's the real her? In Korea, you have to keep up a certain image, personality, and concept; you're basically a brand to a record company, this is no secret, it is what it is. I'd believe it more that this is her trying to be her true self, rather than vice versa, now that she actually has a say in her music. She's not in the US, doing bubblegum/fake badass KPOP. She's here as a solo artist to do HER.
xmirame If you were onto them since the very start and watched all their behind the scenes you can tell what is real and what's not. Just a simple one would be her habit of bringing a rilakkuma plushie with her on her plane rides. In fact, 2ne1's CL is already different from Lee Chaerin in everyday life so yeah. I was talking about the way she presents herself during interviews and whatnot you can clearly tell that she is holding herself back and putting up a front. How is that the real her when every words she says in these interviews just feels so calculated? But I won't blame her though she should do what she needs to do. I just don't want her to lose herself. This is what I think it's like so don't bother arguing my opinion.
Taehyung's sweat in Blood, Sweat & Tears If we are lucky enough, we might. Don't lose faith. :)
moonbinfluenza how is she taking a different persona? She always idealize herself in her every piece of music she wrote (I'm the baddest female, etc). That's her brand. Whichever Chaerin we know, is the one Cl put out for the world to see.
shes right. It takes so much energy to hate, cause chaos, think and write hateful messages that is pathetic and at the same time wasteful. If people took even half that amount of feelings to say something nice to the things they loved they would create something truly beautiful. I saw her Live in Seattle and words cannot express how grateful i was to see her trying so hard singing so much, dancing so effortless. Shes CL because she created herself as such.
The years of pain and hard work are and will payoff CL!
She has the training, the experience, the charisma, the energy, i really hope she can go far in breaking the US market.
I was at that concert too, it was one of the best ones I've ever experienced. She's got an amazing game on stage. The more people that notice her will inevitably lead to more hate, but also more love. A lot of people on CZcams are sour 'cause they want 2NE1, not CL, which is understandable, but to hate on her because she wants to do her own thing is not called for. Hopefully the positive voices will drown out the hateful ones over time, but until then I suppose it's good for a laugh. CL appreciates the hate in any case. I'm hoping the best for her debut.
She is doing it right. What diplo said was and is true.
she is been working in her album for 3 years its better be good!
hi guys if u want details in her album u can check this
www.josepvinaixa.com/blog/cl-debut-english-solo-album/
The first, “Birthday,” is half-delivered in Korean, while the other, “One,” is described by Diplo as a “real pop, teenage-graduation kind of fun, kid record
TheGodYiest JG I
did it come out yet?
for once i don't need subtitles xD
bunny dream xD aw I still do I need Korean subs dang it .... you English speakers won this battle
カサンドラ Cassandra ur comment is a gem
カサンドラ Cassandra haha one time xD
bunny dream so true lol
My new favorite saying:
"Even if they hate me, I love that I can do that to them." - CL
"I wanna do it right, so that's why I'm taking so long"- CL
"Even if they hate me, I love that I could do that to them"
Damn I love her so much
Can't wait for the day CL PERFORMANCE ON THE Mtv MUSIC AWARDS OR ANY AWARDS THAT I CAN WATCH ON MY TV
Riley Westbrook fuck you
Riley Westbrook nah I don't because it's not the truth. She will be relevant but not right now because she JUST came into the American scene but get her some time and you'll see.
Riley Westbrook OMG!! JUST BECAUSE YOU HATE HER DOESN'T MEAN SHE IS IRRELEVANT.
Riley Westbrook 'Bout people don't know about her. If I live in the Caribbean and know about her, twice as many people in America know her but just don't say anything about her that's all. And if you a k-popper you MOST know about CL. But anyways, she is SO not irrelevant so you can stop hating on her, like, what she do to you for you to call her irrelevant???
Riley Westbrook Oooooo soo now she needs to go back to Korea, huh!?!? You know what, mayyybe you right. Maybe she isn't as popular as American idols but one thing I know for sure is that she is WAYYY more popular and relevant than you are and will ever be. Now, would you kindly fuck out hater?? Please and thanks.
she's fucking beautiful, sexy, smart, talented, complex, ambitious, inspirational the list goes on and on she is a true icon
It would be impossible for me to reply to every single comment on here about my thoughts on CL's method in breaking into the states, so I'm gonna make a new comment regarding my thoughts. First, I don't think CL was denying that the US market is a hard one to break. she talks about doing it right, and part of doing it right is taking time with it. It's not like the South Korean market which is much more fast paced and it's just so over saturated. When CL says she's taking time to do it right, she's not incorrect, because time is part of doing it right. Through these past years she's been building connections and becoming more visible to non kpop fans, which is a tedious but completely necessary process. Secondly, I do feel that CL's persona is a bit off putting in general. She talks and sings and raps about being the baddest bitch but that's not her. Yes, a stage persona can simply be a character, but, I'm not gonna put out a rap saying I grew up in Compton and I was in a gang and I drink forties or whatever because that's a legit lie. The difference is that a character can almost be a fantasy or something fake, when Cl's persona as a bad bitch is fake for her, but a real thing for others. And that's off putting, acting like you're about a life when you aren't. I'm not saying she should be bubblegum and sweet, but come on, she's seriously not apart of that lifestyle. Third, I've seen some people say how they don't like CL saying she wants to be a crusader or representation for Asian American women because she's not Asian american and that the stereotype has already been broken. Let me just say that as an Asian American Woman, that it would be completely ignorant to say that the stereotypes have been broken. We do have more Asian women in media, Constance Wu is a great example, but we are still so limited in public figures. While CL by far won't be the first Asian she'll still be one of the few, and we need that. The US is a huge country, I live in Socal so maybe I don't experience too much racial profiling and racism in my every day life but what about Asians in the mid west, Asians in the south, where maybe there aren't very many Asians and they face these stereotypes. Finally, if you're a kpop fan and you don't like CL's work in America that's fine. People need to realize CL isn't trying to bring kpop to America. CL is trying to debut in the American market as a solo artist. She won't being doing kpop. So if you feel alienated because you feel CL is changing too much to fit American tastes, I'm just gonna say suck it up because when entering the American market kpop fans are not her priority. It's the general mass of Americans, that's her target audience and yea you may not like it but respect that's what she's going for. Overall I'm supporting CL in this endeavor, more as an Asian American woman than a kpop fan tbh. It's gonna take time and effort but if she chips away at it I think she's in the right direction.
Nguyen Girl Really well said
Well I don't know why you quote " lifted " as something from her personality when obviously this song is not serious and it's a sample.
It is not hard to understand that some people act a certain way depanding on areas and people without doing it on purpose. Does it means they are fake ? No, that's just the way they have been educated.
ON stage : she's the bad bitch, strong aura with lot of enrgy OFF stage : she's just quiet, reserved and nice and everything make her who she is.
MoussaKendy my point is i'm not really a fan of how extreme she has taken her on stage persona. It's not just lifted. Some of her lines from dirty vibe go along the same lines. She can still be bad ass and strong but in the future i wish she could stop acting like she's from the Bronx or Compton or something because she's just not. I'm not saying these actions are fake, but they're fake when she raps about doing them. Because she's not from that background. For example, dumbfoundead raps about some pretty hard shit, but he's not some "character", dumbfoundead actually lived through that he grew up in ktown and it was rough. Like when that shit Unpretty rapstar contestant truedy rapped about being one of Korea's first black people like wtf she isn't even black like even if she wrote those lyrics herself it's just off putting because it's not her.
Nguyen Girl your comment is perfect!
Very well said :) thanks for taking the time. And I'm sure most of those people saying there's no stereotype anymore aren't asian american and don't know what they're talking about...
She is sooo pretty and her laugh is life. Real queen here 😍💍
idk why ppl compare her to nicki minaj... shes bigger than that!!!!
buhahaha
Queen Bee
what?
Think rap better than CL tbh
obviously!
She is super talented! :3
Shi Rma bitch you wish
How could this 5 minute video make me cry like it's nothing ??? 😭 Mom is 4ever my queen
xxfreshpineapplesxx sAME
Her skin.... I WANT HER SKIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
aie larissa calm down Buffalo Bill
aie larissa 22 karat gold she got in Dubai
BLACKJACKS 4ever!!!!!!❤❤❤❤❤
Airon Paul 🙌🏾♠️♣️♥️♦️🃏
CL lowkey promoting GD's PMO cap. lmao
Why is she soo damn inspirational? She fricking loves the haters. I love her soo much.
2:36 That one girl looking at CL like "IS THAT FUCKING CL"
"i wanna do it right and that's why its's taking so long."
I can't help but marvel at her skin. So smooth and fine.
Kristine Fernandez Ikr
what cl said about how hating is much more effort than loving, omg. She's an actual queen my perspective rlly changed
I really hope she makes it without loosing herself in the process. Trying to breakthrough the American market by trying to be American minus the fact that she's Asian. Now she better get herself in the recording studio and give us real music.
CJ B someone tweeted her "just be yourself, we miss Lee Chae Rin" and she replied with "I am always". People need to realize CL's sound and image will change some because she's doing her own thing freely, I hope people don't think she lost her self :(
That guy really just reduced racism and feminism to an internet trend lol ok there fam
Sophia ikr I was like this kid does not know what he's talking about lol
I mean, it basically is a trend. CL got so much hate in her MV (look at the comments) because people who didn't bother to watch and learn about her were crying "CULTURAL APPROPRIATION!!" Many accused her of stealing the black culture. Except, guess what? HIP HOP IS A MUSIC GENRE. IT DOESNT BELONG TO YOU!! That's what that kid was talking about. People who know nothing about CL or her music or her passion hate for her music. They don't know anything because they never bothered to look into her. I myself an a feminist, but I do agree with him. Its become a trend
Feminism is definitely a trend when it comes to marketing campaigns e.g. H&M and Dove but outside the corporate sphere, they pertain to real issues too. If anything, I think black culture is the trend here. I watched her Lifted MV again and I don't think she's appropriating black culture (but that attempt at a Jamaican accent tho lmao...) but I guess it's not really my place to say anything since I'm not black. Overall, I think it's unfair of him to reduce feminism and cultural sensitivity to a social trend. Like how idiotic would it be if someone said to me, "oh you're only calling that person out cause it's a trend to be edgy" like no... cause maybe I actually care about feminism because it advocates for the dispersal of rape culture and maybe I actually care about cultural appropriation because I don't think its fair that the media praises Lady Gaga as a trendsetter for sporting dreadlocks but the host of Fashion Police can joke about Zendaya's locks "smelling like weed"
Sophia haha I thought the same thing 😑
I think he wasn't necessarily trying to reduce it to anything, I think he's trying to say that there are some people who don't know what they're talking about and running their mouths on these issues just because they want to and treating them like a trend instead of a serious issue, I mean that's who I interpreted it but that's me
GD's style with this peaceminusone's cap. CL is so cool
1. that was awesome.2. she is forever the Queen.
No one could brake CLs FAME... SHE IS QUEEN!!! ❤👑👑❤❤❤💖💖💖
I adore CL, I want her to succeed in the USA and around the globe!! I support her to the end!!, I'm not a blackjack, but I like their music (2ne1),
I just am attracted to strong females, ,
when I was a lil kid I wanted to be Donna Summers,
my parents let me down as best they could, I was a scrowny white girl with no vocal range, lol, I took dance from 3 years old till 18, was in cheer, did choreography for my squad, was great with music, arranging, etc.. took that in uni, radio/tv/film,
I never was a Donna Summers, however I feel my love for, and her music, her inner, outer beauty helped shaped the person I am!!
if CL, helps girls from all walks of life, she's done a good job!!!
I don't look at her as a South Korean, trying to do something she shouldn't, she needs to grab life by the balls and hang on tight!! cuz she will have great things happen for her, she's brave, beautiful and Hella talented!
yass strong female all the way!
Where did they find that guy that talked about culture, racism, etc? Gosh did he even know what he was talking about?
m vang apparently not
I actually think that he has a good point
m vang he's a model lmfao idk why he was in this I guess they just needed a token black kid
2813308004 jones EXACTLY
@@tornadosirenwednesday lol he's CL's token black friend
Really I want her to win the Grammys.
I wouldn't mind if CL stayed in new York because like Jessica from SNSD she can finally be happy and they are able to live the life they want
No matter how long it takes I will be waiting! #GZBNATION
she's forever the baddest asian female ever happened🔥♥
#QueenAF
she is stunning and her flow is just awesome!!! not only kids CL,u got some older fans as well!
She's got the voice and the look, she could make it in the US.
"I am not a thing. I am not a doll." - CL
HELL YESSSS
she's definitely making a difference in a way that only a fearless woman can..i never doubted her
CL, my Queen, continue to slay. I will be loyal to you. Until the very end
Awww she's supporting GD. Shes wearing a peaceminusone hat! 💜👑👑
God I fucking love her. She works so hard she deserves this so much
Chae Lin is my fashion inspiration, so badass and sassy and idgaf I love it
CL can I meet you before you get BIG over here! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE! I've been a BlackJack since '09 👑🙌🏾♠️♣️♥️♦️🃏
"Even if they hate me I love that I can do that to them" - words to live by, honestly ♡
I love when she said "I appreciate the hate".... this is just so YG style & CL style, she's definitely one of the kind. tbh it's still bit rare that such a successful and popular idol can be so positive about the hate
In my opinion, CL is going to keep climbing the staircase to success and power. Whether its in fashion, art, music or dance, she will keep dominating. Her reputation with 2NE1 has been flawless and powerful, no matter what people say. 2NE1 will always be the reason why she has become so successful in her career; also being how talented she is.-- --The point is that I am a huge fan of the group and really hate to say this but I think this is it for 2NE1. People say that they are still together, and even if or if not peaceful they have a contract to complete. But how strong can you keep a group together if its already breaking? Minzy has already left, Park bom has been MIA due to personal refection/ issues involving her past drug scandal, and CL is on her way to world domination. 2NE1 hasn't even had a single outing together since their 2015 MAMA appearance. How could CL ever possibly go back to a ( I hate to say it ) group who only has real power in Asia ( and us wall flowers across the globe)? The word is that CL is doing this USA debut(domination) in order to get 2NE1...advertising/ a ticket into the USA top hit charts/ a way to improve the groups success and reputation (considering 2014's drug scandal with park bom), but come one..does that make sense? In a way it does, but again CL is the beyonce of her group, and in my opinion, a star shines better on its own. CL might come back for one more comeback but in all honestly, their contract will always have an expiration date. Her true intentions are to succeed as a solo artist.
Omg she called fans internet kids, she knows us to well lmao
wow she met my face fashion designer, Alex Wang...
joanna ryan she models for him exclusively.
Wow, great... Good luck for her...
I just love hearing her speak omg I love her and her voice ♡♡♡
She inspires me so much! 💘
one thing that i admire bout her is confident levels.
boyyyyyy wtf I go to time square all the time I go to school there... CL where you at??? god please let me meet her
she fucking amazing i like for what she stands and I LOVE HER FASHION SENSE
Loved the culture speech from that young guy.
***** ***** maybe you should try and understand the content of what he said instead of focusing on the way he said it. Sometimes people from the streets have interesting and meaningful thoughts even if they don't express em in a conventional way.
sesame You don't always have to use high vocabulary to sound like you know what you're talking about. He had a very good point, just expressed it in s different way, learn to accept that.
Just know that no matter what, we will wait for you CL. Fans for life! When you break America we will all be there to cheer you on! She is Queen!
i will probably shred tear if she goes big in US and hear her music in radio
TheGodYiest JG Tear of happiness?
I'm glad cl is a unique person because it inspires others to bring their own vibe to the music industry.
I LOVE HOW CL SAID "SHE LOVES HOW SHE CAN MAKE PEOPLE HATE HER" 😂😂👏🏼👏🏼💯
Oh god!! I'm so proud of her she's amazing and I am sure she is gone a be fine i wish her all the best!! Cl figthing! Love u girl keep going we will support you.. :D
She's such a queen! She's the perfect role model for young girls of ANY descent!
Mom 😭
Charisma Chaerin I love my mommy
Charisma Chaerin Hyung
Really think she's a sweet girl and I am in no way a "hater", but in my opinion this whole "struggling Asian artist" vibe I'm getting does not match the real situation she's in.
She is signed with a big label ( plus she's already signed to one of the biggest companies in South Korea) and has one of the most successful managers in the music industry by her side, an already big fanbase, and has connections to many influential people in the music and fashion industry and a high net worth. So I don't know why she's depicted as some unknown indie artist who is struggling to make it in the US. She's got way more than she needs.
Gala Xy it's all about the perspective; from an audience point of view yes, she seems like she's got everything and reached all the goals she needs. But from an industry standpoint it's different, for the artist and the creators it's always about pushing that boundary and America is a tough market to break. By this I mean, if you asked a random person in NYC if they know CL, they probably will say no. its not about the wealth, shes not doing it for that because she has that already; its about taking her career further and America rappresenta that to her.
Gala Xy represents*
Its not so much a "struggling Asian artist" ... starving artist thing. CL has a LOT of money and she's one of the most popular KPOP stars and has been for a LONG time.
BUT ... its hard for Asians to get respect in America. CL struggles as do most Asians to be accepted as REAL and not just a "little thing imitating the big people".
Korea has arguably the finest music industry on the planet right now ... and relatively few people are really aware of it outside of knowing about Psy and Gangnam Style.
When Koreans come here and try to get successful ... they usually get made fun of and relegated to the back of the room. For those of us who pay attention - some of the incidents have been really embarrasing ... for us they barely register ... if at all. Over there - it is Yuuuggge.
The time TMZ made fun of Asian artists about a year back. Tiffany (who is a Korean-American from San Fran btw) from Girls Generation getting disrespected at the first CZcams Awards when her group won the first ever Music Video of the Year for "I Gotta Boy" ... and some of the ways in which GG were talked to on various TV shows here the same year. The lack of respect Asian artists mostly get in Hollywood - where they've been picking White and later Jewish actors to play Asian parts for a hundred years. Examples - David Carradine getting Bruce Lee's role in "Kung Fu". Scarlett Johansson as Motoko Kusanagi in "Ghost in the Shell". Our media does little to introduce Americans to the myriad amazing aspects of Asian art.
People in the West want to look down upon Asians - Westerners feel more comfortable with people they can look down on - especially intellectually. That usually doesn't work well with Asians for long - as most folks fairly quickly discover that the "little yellow people" (who really aren't either) can work harder, work longer, focus much better, and have a much higher sense of purpose, pride, and a history of creating culture and high intellectual acheivement when Westerners were still living in caves and wearing animal skins. Asians intimidate Westerners in their refusal to neither accept a low social status as a permanent limitation nor that they need the "charity of their Western betters" to succeed.
Another thing is ... as a group, they don't do "victim" very well - the harder the struggle, the harder they motivate and as such - they aren't well like by folks who think they need "patronizing" by their "betters". Asians are hard people - they are very smart, they get trained hard (mostly by Tiger Mom's), and they tend to become cold in their emotions in public verses all touchy-feely as public displays of emotions are often discouraged in the more traditional parts of the various cultures.
Westerners don't know how to emphathize ... or really even relate to most Asians especially with the vast structures of cultural tradition that permiate Asia that are opaque to most in the West.
So yes, CL is a struggling artist ... as are all the other Asians who come here to try to add their culture to ours and teach us to appreciate theirs with the intent of earning the respect which they ARE so richly due.
Enjogior Studio I understand what her mission is and I agree with you, it's not easy to make it in the US.
My point was, I wished she would victimise herself less since she's very privileged compared to unknown, struggling Asian -American artists who won't ever get that opportunity; It seems she's not aware of that.
MrBabylonandon In my opinion your overgeneralise "the Westerners"and it's even offensive. Not every westerner has ill feelings towards Asians. if that was the case, Kpop would not be so popular and people would not enjoy their culture as they do now. I think many enjoy the rich culture of Asians.
About Cl, she is not an Asian-American and did not live or grow up in America to even face the racism and struggle many Asians face. I know she lived abroad for a while but I doubt that in those few years she struggled a lot ( although I cannot speak for her).
Cl also doesn't bring anything from her own culture which would have made her debut much more interesting and refreshing. She just sells an image that she and people from her company have created, but it seems she's comfortable in that, which is fine , but not authentic.
I think every minority group struggles to get into the music industry and many have to ask themselves whether they want to give in to "white America" and try to emulate their ideal standards, or if they want to embrace their own heritage or race and represent it in that their music.
Cl, to me, did the first by completely leaving out her culture and being silent about any social issues (except for this interview)and instead trying to assimilate into the American Hip-Hop culture. Overall, the stuff she says is very egocentric.
so from my perspective, she seems like a really unsuitable candidate to represent Asians in America; I doubt many that many Asian-Americans are going to identify with her.
i LIKE love cl. she inspires me so much especially as an asian american, she makes me feel like i can do anything no matter what people label me. love u mom
Reppin the peaceminusone hat tho
Was she using GD's peaceminusone cap?
i think yes
Danky Vu and that pmo clip lmao
Daez Rainye i was waiting for someone to mention the clip, is it a trend? fashion statement? i'm confused please enlighten me
yas hahaha
the same thing I was thinking XD
awww. cl is a forever queen
CL's English Is sooo CUTE 💞💞💞🙆🙆 My Queen
CL's words about hate. yes. love you queen.
Love her style! 🤘🏻🔥💯
ALIFE same
i love you CL! FIGHTING!!😙
I love CL 💖
OMG i don't know, but i love CL so much, i don't know why, she is so perfeeeeeect. ❤️❤️❤️❤️
God i love her. Do you feel me?
she's so thoughtful about what she says and what she does, especially as an artist. much respect for her. have been a fan of hers since 2ne1's debut and I look forward to seeing her succeed and inspire and gain a new audience and fandom in the US market
Internet kids hell yea! 💗💗 2NE1 BLACKJACK!!
CL is like Bruce Lee but the opposite round, which i think maybe around 10 years time she will be in the top 100 most influence people in the world
yes, Cl.. And 2ne1? Can't nobody hold us down huh? This is the saddest and the happiest thing for me.. Cl with new album, get it done gurl, but what about 2ne1? The group that got me in to K-pop? The most powerful girl group? Blackjacks will wait patiently.. :(
Taehyung's sweat in Blood, Sweat & Tears they disbanded :( just now im still sad
Mariane Sanchez I know #ThankYou2NE1💔
Taehyung's sweat in Blood, Sweat & Tears CL delayed her own album to work on 2ne1's. 💔 it's not fair. 2ne1 didn't deserve to be done so dirty
AlwaysOriginalForME YG caught me off guard too but never accept rejection as a failure..
AlwaysOriginalForME No, but serious now I know she did and I feel so bad that it all fell apart just because of YG. I think it's stupid to call for a comeback when there would not be one, the least he could do for us Blackjacks was one last album or performance, but I guess this is what we deserve.. But I hope our queens will be succsessful even if they are not together❤️💔
I miss CL so much!!!
She is such a sassy strong women.Her english just killed me.How she was rocking that peaceminusone cap.Love her style.
YAAAAAAAS SLAY OUR QUEEN! FIGHTING!
CL ❤ Can't wait to see everybody knowing who she is.
that my #CL.....♡♥♡♥
#fighting!!!!!
CL ALWAYS WILL BE MY FAV SINGER LOVE YA 😌😘😍😍🌹😄🌼🌼
"I appreciate the hate." --CL😇😇
Me* "She a Boss b*tch."😉
I love what he said " music doesn't have an owner." Cl got so much hate because apparently an Asian women can't do what CL does. So many annoying assholes I'm her MV were crying "OMG CULTURAL APPROPRIATION!" Does music belong to you? bitch no, it doesn't.
The_White_Witch_
It's not the music per say it's the fact that she uses Black Culture as a prop and a gimmick in her music videos. the fact that she picks and chooses what she wants to use from black culture, makes money off of it and then pretends that she doesn't see color is disgusting. She's not even giving back to the culture that she's stealing from, she goes around pretending that this is her own original style.
The_White_Witch_ but she did appropriate Native American culture in her lifted mv :)))
The_White_Witch_ and hip hop is from black culture you dumbass
XORIH You know what fuck you. hip hop is from the black culture okay fucking great. And Egypt gave us paper, China gave us porcelain and gun powder, Europe have us hoses and chickens, wheat from the middle east, most forms of art (cubism and shit were) Italian and white guys. Next time you go to taco bell or chipotle, just fucking don't okay. That's my culture. its "Mexican food" so no you can't eat it or make it because as a Mexican I don't like it when other people try and appropriate my culture. Okay yea? great
The_White_Witch hates life and one of those people who dont get it..
I love cl!💕💕💕💕
You are and will forever be our queen
"I appreciate the hate" yasss bihh👌🏼👌🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
CL, I don't think avoiding the main issue is doing you any favors. The reason why it's taking you so long to break into the US market is because it's hard to break into the US market. There are not too many Asians that have done it in any form of entertainment. Also, it would be better to not alienate your already existing fanbase by adopting this entirely different persona just to break into the US market. Be yourself because you aren't doing yourself any favors by trying too hard. You aren't about that life. You are a "bad" girl when performing but there is nothing about your upbringing that was all that "hard" or "badass," which is TOTALLY FINE. Americans rip on anything they feel is not authentic and it's already a struggle to break stereotypes...so please, if you are going to do this, represent Asians better by being yourself.
I agree that it is hard to break into America, but I don't understand why you're saying she has a "different persona" and trying too hard. I've seen this CL since she did The Baddest Female. We all have. I don't perceive anything different. She's being herself.
I've been following her since her debut in 2009. Her baddest female persona is something she adopted for her solo debut. I personally feel like she needs to be more true to herself rather than try too hard to be "bad" or "American." I also don't like when she makes sweeping generalizations about how Asians are perceived in America in her interviews especially since she has been living here for like a minute. She talks about the struggle about breaking into America as if she's been doing it her entire life which is kinda bullshit.
Yoonbread Something she adopted for her solo debut? But I've seen this CL since forever. She's not even doing anything risqué or outrageous that I haven't seen her doing before. And it's just like you said: an stage persona that I've been seeing for quite a long time. You don't have to be living in the US for your entire life to know how a race is perceived there. You just have to belong to it. And how do you act american? How is she trying to be bad? I just don't understand where you're coming from.
StrawberryBlond21 I'm American...and I am also Asian American...and the fact that she's trying to be some type of crusader of sorts for Asian women is really off putting for me. Especially since she's speaking like she knows what it's like to be Asian in America. Like I've said, she's only lived here for like a minute. I've been her fan for years and I know for a fact that she speaks differently in her English interviews than she does in her Korean interviews. Maybe she's trying to cater to different crowds but it's really off putting for me to see her embrace this different personality as if she's this hardcore, bad ass chick. I don't know her personally so maybe this is a side of her that we've never seen before outside the stage but... it does not really make me want to support her because I feel like she's trying too hard to be someone she's not. 1. Stop talking for others, just focus on the music (you are singer not some cultural icon messiah for Asians) 2. stop making generalizations because it sounds ignorant. 3. Don't pretend like you aren't making any waves because you choose to "do things right." That's not true. You aren't making waves because it's hard to make it in America. Just admit it and it makes you look ten times more genuine. I am also under this impression that she feels like only this type of persona will help her make it in America which is not true at all. I don't know how else to explain it. Just my opinion.
Well, CL was cutesy at one point in her life (not cutesy as in Kpop girl cutesy but personality cutesy, go watch her old interviews and 2ne1 TV). But I am not holding that to her because people evolve and she's adopted the baddest female image from her solo debut. She likes it and feels like it represents her the best and that is cool...but I guess I am speaking more or less about how she's coming off from her interviews. She tries too hard to be hardcore...and this comes from how she describes her struggles about breaking the US market and trying to break stereotypes. It's not a good look for her. Look at how people ripped on Iggy Izalea. I just don't want CL to be another Iggy. Just focus on music CL.
im ana american who has been a fan for years we even play CL at our clubs haha here in GA
CL such a talented lady, you go girl.
I JUST WANT UR ALBUM CL IS THAT HARD!
She's so cool 😍
An I'll be here waiting CL.. Always and forever. Slay Me Queen!
i love CL!!💕💕💕 all day every day ! 😍😍😍
I love her . I find inspiration in Korean music and her music that's why I want to produce music .
I also find inspiration in G Dragon's music and producing style.
I know Korean . I'm Native American, British, German and Irish. I'm going to college for music recording. ( @topbocadrgn is my twitter)
2ne1 forever 😍
She's so incredible. I saw her live and she killed it. GO CL!! 씨엘 파이팅!!
CL, I want you to be happy. Keep doing what you're doing gurl, we love you no matter what ✨❤️