Griffith is the greatest villain. Here's why.
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- čas přidán 7. 06. 2024
- In this video, I analyse why Griffith from Berserk stands out amongst villains, what makes a good villain, take apart Griffith's psyche, philosophy of Übermensch and evil in Berserk, inverted Christian symbolism, and more. (I forgot to mention some things in the video, which I added to the description.)
Some additional notes:
- the idea of thesis, antithesis, and synthesis was actually popularised by Hegel, but it precedes even Hegelianism; Nietzsche's philosophy relies on the same process, except that in the form of Apollonian and Dionysian principles uniting within the tragedy, thus ushering in the Übermensch etc.
- when I mentioned pure rationalism in regards to Übermensch, I was referring to the idea that humans would have to give up their humanity if Nietzsche's ideal were to be realised, not to Nietzsche's philosophy (he criticised rationalism and upheld creativity)
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00:00 Features of a good villain
4:13 Why Griffith stands out
8:53 Lucifer made Christ
13:35 Superman and will to power
18:40 Griffith's psyche
24:59 Obsession with a dream
25:52 Bat and hawk
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Absolutely amazing analysis
Thanks a lot! That's nice to hear from a fellow Berserk enthusiast. (:
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Upload a video Soul I just wanna her you talk for 10 mins about philosophy
Two great channels interacting over Berserk. I love it
I'm glad your still breathing Soul. I know not why you've vanished but for whatever reason it is, i hope your doing good and i wish you well. I just wanted to say your vid where you spoke about Individuation literally saved my life and made me the Man i am today. I can never thank you enough but i await the day when i can get to watch another one of your deep vids again.
Guts and Griffih go trough the hero journey, but on inverse ways.
Griffith when he meets guts, is a hero. Willing to sacrifice his own body to minimize his people losses ( doing sexual favors to another lord). Always goes in the frontline, willing to risk his own neck. And always fight for the clan. Even if his goals are selfish, he ultimately highly appreciate the Hawks. His inner despair slowly makes him question his own goal in life. And when guts leaves, he falls to that dispair. Wich later becomes one of the reasons for the eclipse.
Guts . starts as a cursed individual. Born from a dead mother, despised by his surrogate father, raped by his war companion. But somehow always found warm in believing in his close ones , and then got betrayed, over and over. However he always choose to believe and take care of his own. the way Griffith did at some point for the Hawks.
While Guts slowly became more sympathetic towards humanity no matter the griefs Griffith grew up more and more distant from his own humanity.
Griffith only wants to minimize his losses because losing valuable assets would hinder his goals. when he lost guts this very reason caused him to act out.
@@user-wp4xk9cw2t Yeah, I don't know if Griffith is capable of real relationships outside of Assets.
“Oh blessed king of longing” -> “Only a vague sense of longing remains”
“Last tear drop shed”-> “With a single tear like morning dew”
Aint that the truth , but the tears probably still from the child not his
There are tons of self referential quotes and scenarios in Berserk. It is really impressive tbh. Every volume contains someof that
Bro, berserk has the best protagonist and antagonist. You can’t change my mind
W opinion
Facts
@@Mid7068 I read enough to know the answer
@@undecillion25johan claps now cryy more🥱🥱🖕
Johan slams that gay white haired fodder
I know for a fact we dont need another one of these videos, but holy hell it feels good just listening to another person of high culture express their appreciation for good writing!
Well going in line with the Lucifer comparison, I always thought Griffith was eventually going to be thrown into the Vortex of Souls. Kinda fitting that someone who always thought of himself as above humanity would eventually lose himself within the consciousness of a multitude of others
but then what about the brands? guts and casca would so far based off of the current story knowledge…still be thrown into the same vortex
@@jimbo7551 The whole band was made up of killers, they were destined to hell regardless.
Great analysis. If possible, could you ever do an analysis on Johan Liebert from the manga Monster by Naoki Urasawa? He's a very interesting modern, psychological take on the classical idea of evil by his seemingly "evil" actions actually stemming from him being the representation of complete nihilism
A Johan Liebert analysis by FP would be interesting af
Yes please
I have been thinking in my head for so long that the fanbase’s claim that Griffith never loved anyone was wrong, and I’m thankful that someone else sees this. I’ve done my best to try and imagine what it would take mentally to make all of the decisions Griffith has made and I can’t conclude anything other than the fact that he loved guts, the band of the hawk, his own personality, and most of all his own ability to pursue his dream.
In the midst of having to choose the entire hawk or both his former self (before the torture) and his own dream, he chooses his ego and dream because he perceives love and care as weakness. Griffith only got so far in his own mind because he believed he was secretly unfazed by losing his companions or even his dignity in order to chase his dream, the result was that he was an awe-inspiring image of greatness in the eyes of his companions and THEREFORE in the eyes of himself.
After losing guts, cascas love, and his body, he assumed he was no long worthy of being looked at as great and thus couldn’t accept that in the eyes of those who he cared about they still saw him that way, and more importantly, he placed no importance on the love he had for them. The remedy to his trouble was to recognize himself in the eyes of those who he should allow himself to love, but in his own mind love is what had gotten him to such a desolate position in the first place, he loved guts and couldn’t stand no longer having his admiration around because like you said he was dependent on him, he also masked his love for guts as his ownership of him, and in the end he sacrifices his life’s greatest accomplishment (the family of the hawk), for some arbitrary role of godhood in which he can no longer be loved by anyone because in order for them to love him he now has to hide what he truly is..
and yeah he’s a god now, but all of the love people of Falconia now show him is also the direct result of physical things that he has done, whereas as the man Griffith he was loved and admired not because of what physical things he was achieving, but because his guidance and care for his mercenaries gave all of them purpose, he himself was a god in their eyes even without the power of the astral realm. Griffith’s character as a whole is the result of him misunderstanding his own self, because he believed suppressing himself is what was necessary to achieve his dream, funny enough his dream was staring him in the face the whole time in the image of guts and the hawk, because why would anyone want a kingdom? For the satisfaction of inner pride. If he retained some humility, Griffith would have allowed himself to see guts as an equal and he would have respected the feelings associated with him and the hawk as well as what they truly saw him for, he would’ve by extension been able to love himself too. You could say that Griffith laid out the parameters of seeing someone as an equal when he talked to charlotte but it’s just not true, he would never see anyone as an equal because of his pride, which is why when guts leaves, he doesn’t see him as an equal as he should, he sees it as a loss of power. In the real world pride will eventually lead to ruin and the person in question will have to sacrifice that pride through recognizing that they can’t control everything (like when guts leaves) and the humility they adopt will also allow them to see who they are through the eyes of their companions, they then can also love themselves, what is interesting is that in berserk the prideful can remain ignorant to this, and thus femto is born…. I went on a rant but anyway loved the video, berserk is incredible
I wrote this comment on a different Griffith video I came across a couple days before watching this one, it’s wild how it all matches up. Great video btw
you are like me, good to see others out there.
griffith was always the hawk of light, the one who could seize destiny and make dreams come true before he was ever femto, a mere shadow of his former self. a pathetic loser who can never open up to anybody again, not even the small helpless rickert. the greatest tragedy of his character is that his dreams and the dreams of his compatriots became one and much too heavy for one man. he was their king, even when he was a commoner. he was the wind of change, that guided the blaze of his band of hawk. he became a slave to destiny instead of freedoms champion. and i think most people find him so unforgiveable because even nearly every reader gave griffith their dream. to see something spectular, to see humanity win against the force of chaos. most people empathize with guts rage for the same reason guts feels it, betrayal by someone you loved, not because of treachery through cold hearted calculation (that would be more forgiveable imo) but because of meekness, just going along with the flow of evil instead of fighting it... griffith was never so weak to us before, and he will never achieve the same heights as femto as he did the mortal hawk of light.
This is probably one of if not the best Griffith analyses I have ever seen on CZcams.
Yes
"Even Satan had wings once, after all" awesome
wow, I wasn't expecting such high quality content to come from such a small channel, subbed
This is absolutely brilliant. With berserk starting up again, this was wonderful food for thought with my own ideas of the themes that could be shown for the ending.
Berserk is a masterpiece and your analysis captures its brilliance beautifully. Thank you for your effort in putting this together.
23:35 During the millenium falcon arc he keeps getting referred to as the one humanity longed for. The god hand themselves are a product of human desire. I always looked at him being one that's longed for. But you can also say that he's longing his dream, which does make sense : ) So it can kinda go both ways, that's cool!
Because Griffith also has become a disciple of the Idea of Evil which was born from humans
Your voice is so soothing. 🥰
And your videos are educational!
I think that often the ultimate end of people like Griffith, is accomplishing their goal, realizing their dream, but discovering that they're still left empty...
i think that applies to guts. boy doesnt know what he wants. one second is to be equals with griffith. the next it is to start a family with casca.
@@mithos789 Yeah, interesting. To be equal in power he would have to give up his other dream, give up those closest to him.
Really deep and amazing analysis. Loved it👍
This is nothing but an amazingly beautiful analysis, and those examples and analogies...
A mastahpeece to say the least. 🏵️🐞🏵️
Wow what an video, amazing work. I belive you're work shoud be viewed by more people
My god i love that voice. Great content and deep analysis.
This was a amazing. I can't believe the dyonesian and apolllonian was so well integrated into the story. Definetly subcribed!
Well spoken and analysed 💯✅
I love your comparison of Griffith soaring to Sisyphus. Very apt.
High quality stuff. Remind me of one of my favorite channels. the vile eye
Themes were explained in a beautiful way.
Excellent analysis.
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Good luck.
this analysis was amazing
Very cool video. Subbed.
Outstanding analysis
Woah is this what a college philosophy essay sounds like. I didn't understand much but I do at least get to see what influences had a play in the creation of this great character.
this needs 3 million more views
I agree ^^
This was fire! Berserk is my favorite story is all time, thank you! Also could you do Azula from Avatar the last air bender next? In the beginning of the video you showed Ozai vs Aang, I am assuming you are a avatar fan too.
underrated channel
This made me love Griffith as the villain of Berserk even more. Thank You.
I agree with everything you've said except for saying Griffith underwent the process of individuation.
Griffith's personalities began to splinter after Guts left the Band of the Hawk. During the eclipse what we witness was Griffith's shadow taking over in the form of Femto.
Now Griffith exists in three forms... Femto, Griffith, and the Moonlight Child. He will NEVER be able to reconcile those three aspects of his personality and thus he will never truly achieve individuation.
Guts on the other hand, seems to be going through that process now, and if he does succeed with integrating his shadow into his conscious mind, then he will finally have the power to confront Griffith.
However, in the end I don't think Guts will choose revenge. He'll put Griffith in his place one last time, and then forgive him, leaving Griffith's fragile, fragmented psyche shattered once again.
Nice vid
griffith isnt a villain, hes a child of the villain, the idea of evil
There are three words that summarize Griffith as a character: “ I want wings.”
Griffith is by far the most utterly despicable vilain I’ve ever seen. No matter what anyone may say, I’ll never be convinced that he has any redeeming qualities. Great video, you deserve more credit.
I know some griffiths
and some people would consider me a griffith
to them i say “you know nothing” ;)
I wouldn’t call Griffith evil. It is only during the events of the eclipse that Griffith lets evil into his heart of Darkness.
Think Griffith has a lot in common with Lucifer: he’s angelic, highly intelligent, and falls from grace. Another character worth comparing with Griffith and Femto is The Judge from Cormac McCarthy’s “Blood Meridian”: both The Judge and Griffith see knowledge not as a means for enlightenment but rather as a means for domination.
Even with Femto the notion that evil is “chaotic” is inverted, since the Godhand are hard determinists-fatalists, to be exact. The Godhand have more in common with authoritarianism and conservatism- through their aims of control, order, hierarchy, and religious indoctrination via the Holy See.
@Fiction Psychologist I just realised (upon reviewing my above comment) that you explicitly mentioned the link between Griffith and Lucifer in your video … as such, you have my apologies.
Another amendment I would make is to my comments on the Godhand’s ideology: they are obviously totalitarian, that much I shan’t amend, but to call them “conservative” (as I did) is absurd (I don’t know what I was thinking!); religion for the Godhand serves merely as a convenient tool, a theocratic tool, and theocracy is just a subset of authoritarianism.
An additional character that I’d compare with Femto - indeed not a “character” at all, but a real person - is Reinhard Heydrich: here was a man who desired nothing less than complete domination of everything, control over himself and everything around him, who desired (as an ideal) to “supervise” each and every citizen within his suzerainty …. for everything to be under his wings ….; or as reviewer Tarasicossida put it, in her review of Conspiracy: “A man with no use whatsoever for any feelings, who despised sadism because even that is a feeling. A perfectionist of tremendous ability in anything he chose to do, without the least shred of humanity.”
I'll have to watch the rest first, I'm only about 5 mins in. "Sociopath" is the right sort of word. I don't think Griffith could be called malevolent, just monstrous. He literally has a god complex. He''s just the classic ubermench, complete with romantic sensibilities. Miura was right to draw him as being beautiful.
Analysis on Johan Leibert next please!!
really interesting jungian analysis but i feel Griffith before the eclipse was a far more caring person than we were allowed to see, in some moments the character most definitely goes beyond his own archetype which is what makes him a lot more compelling than many other villains to me.
I hope Griffith pulls a psyop where he makes Guts absorb hatred so Guts can become strong enough to defeat the other Devils and Griffith himself
(18:33) Could you, please, tell me in which book from Nietzsche you found the quote »Life itself is holy enough to justify any immensity of suffering«. Thanks in advance!
Most likely it's from 'The birth of Tragedy'.
@@adi-qx8ls, I'll try to look it up in the Nietzsche digital critical edition in German. Thanks.
They should have sent a poe..... Oh never mind. Lol you are a GOAT for this and i can't wait to hear how you describe what i couldn't next!
I would appreciate it if you made a video, as in-depth as this one, on Johan Liebert from the manga Monster.
I love the video
Amazing video, also you sound very similar to Sophie Turner.
Great analysis. Another Christian symbolism of griffith is the holy Trinity, with griffith is the father, femto is the holy Spirit and the Moonlight boy is the son.
I think Griffith is inspired also by antichrist. He comes at a hero, a saviour of humanity but he is a demon that seems angelic.
best berserk vid i have ever seen
You put thoughts into words beautifully here. As a heavily Apollo brained individual, I weirdly empathize with Griffith and feel his struggle. The eternal battle between light and dark is something that I wrack my brain with every night. Every time I see it represented in such human forms like Berserk, it stirs something deep within me, like I've seen this tragedy unfold thousands of times before, played out across a million separate lifetimes. This conflict calls to me like no other force, it is my obsession. It may be presumptuous for me to say, but I sense you feel it as well.
U told me stuff a never would've thought of in berserk
Best protagonist. Best antagonist. Best manga.
Nah best antagonist and villain is johan
@@killermove9524 Absolutely fair sentiment.
You're absolutely wrong for adding Doom and Magneto
This was the best analysis of Griffith ever and completely appealed for my insatiable desire for an analysis of berserk that penetrates to a deeper level. This felt like graduate level analysis.
Are you interested in Critical theory? The Frankfurt School or Situationist Philosophy?
lmao, nobody is interested in that shit, just a bunch of delusional neo-Marxists trying to justify how their darling philosophy could be salvaged from being wrong about everything.
When you show fanart you should credit the artist, Art takes a lot of time and effort y'know. (a social media tag on the corner of the screen is fine)
I'd argue Shogo Makashima is the greatest villain ever because he's got a similar mindset, but he's actually correct, and he is A LOT like Griffith, kind of an inversion though, as he wants to fix the world.
how do you do that ? i wonder !
Последние 2 части прекрасны!
This is the villain that Miyasaki admires?
TL;DR (what's wrong with you if you didn't)
Griffith is batman.
I love you
Berserk boasts the best protagonist and antagonist in manga
I dream is to be alone foever and my vengeance realized :)
great analysis but literally 6 ads…. 👎
Good video. People still don't realize N. was right though, after all this time. Interplay of psychologies. No one size fits all. Frued was too narrow minded. Evolutionary landscape, species, etc. a healthy psychological landscape is a functioning ecosystem. Complete w\ predators, etc.
Woke is what happens when there's no more hawks.
Gaston does not deserve to be there with them he was not that bad bro 0:10 he was as bad as the average person he wasn't exceptionally evil.
Also Griffith was not necessarily more wicked than a "Normal" Person, I believe everyone is wicked deep in there heart.
But Femto is exceptionally evil and wicked... because he is all the wickedness in a human heart all the negative emotions he raped Casca to get back at Guts, all of the positive emotions are gone. The worst of Humanity remains and his specific goal which he won't let go of, but there is soemthing still inside him that is still good.
17:12
Yo That’s Make Griffith a Better Villain than Homelander is Who’s more Evil? And who’s More Hateable Griffith or Homelander and Which one is More Relatable
I don't think Griffit story will find a conclusion :(
The the one part of your analysis I just analysis I disagree with is the idea that Griffith didn't care about his people because the whole scene in the flashback where hes bathing in the river hes literally cutting into his arms with his fingernails as he thinks about all the people who've died for his dream to be a king after he spent a night with A war lord To try and prevent as much death as possible by selling his body
The whole point of sacrifice is that you have to let go of something you hold dear. I don't think that any Behelit would end up with people that have nothing to sacrifice. Rather than amassing an army of psychopaths, it turns people into ones. So yes, clearly, Griffith had something to lose.
Indeed, Griffith did not completely lose his humanity until the moment he turned into Femto. However, what's most terrifying about Griffith is that he created himself into the manifestation of evil. He chose not to care; he had, but he purposefully stopped to. Besides, his caring depended on other people worshipping him: His caring was self-centred, not selfless. Even the river scene just demonstrates that he keeps finding excuses for his actions but knows they're wrong (hence the denial of guilt). Therefore the comparison with Lucifer etc. Such kind of caring becomes highly questionable.
@@FictionPsychology I can agree with that. I guess it was just the wording that I didn't jell with
Рудра-таттва непостижима. Гриффит не Люцифер ( чтобы не верить в Сатану надо лучше изучить вайшнавскую сиддханту). Всего лишь один из многих Гаруд. Garuda. Грифиттс и Ганс не соединяются))) они просто знакомы сейчас, когда то была дружба. Гриф в благости Ганс в невежестве.
Would you consider doing Pain from Naruto one day ?
nice one
Johan is somewhat better... but i agree too
Хладнокровный и "бесчувственный" потому что мало материнского молока пил и особое воспитание аристократа.
Харе kришна)
Johan Liebert?
Plot armor bad written piece of shit not even top 15 for me
@@redemption7704 😂😂
You use an overly complicated language
I take it that you've never read any philosophy
plot twist?~ Griffith is the real horror hero, u like seeing guts in agony 🙊🙉🙈
Никаких оснований "что ему подвластны боги" хотя манга с самого начала не претендует на правдивость философии. Миура неплохо потрудился для upa-dharma таких как новые семитские религии. "Жертвует всем и показывает богам..." - всем пожертвовать невозможно, это тот же фейк что продать душу. Душа выше любой цены, решений, воли, свободы - согласно Бхагавад Гите бессмертна, неуничтожима и качественно равна Богу. Да что я рассказываю, Вам ничего о Нём не известно наверное кроме имени?
Чтобы жертвовать хоть чем то малым нужно бескорыстие. Вы жертвовали плохой компанией или обществом алкоголиков? Думаю нет. Зомбирующее видео. Согласен с 24 минутой.
И не согласен с решениями Миуры и других авторов изобразить Зодда чёртом (devil), этот характер очень подходит одному из ведийских божеств.
You forgot the part where Griffith did nothing wrong.
Evil doesn't exist
I agree, though replace "villain," with "hero." I think it's questionable to a call someone a villain when they clearly DID NOTHING WRONG.
my boy griffith was tortured by lunatic king. hes the victim here.
Well, no, Griffith was born to be great.
Im hopin Femto wins (guts lost his hand, an eye, n has Femto's offspring) kinda of a freak monster in a few randoms eyes~ Femto might bust his berserk armor while raged~ hopin for more disturbing sets from berserk 😈👿😈👿😈👿😤😤😤😠😡😠😤😠😡😠😡😠😡😈👿👿😈👿😈👿😈👿