Crypto's Great Financial Crisis: Everything You Need To Know (So Far)

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    0:00 - introduction
    0:57 - The Start
    1:47 - Leverage
    8:00 - Sponsor
    9:02 - Contagion
    10:33 - FTX Bailout
    12:50 - FTX Downfall
    16:01 - Who's Next
    17:52 - What's Next
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Komentáře • 861

  • @MoneyMacro
    @MoneyMacro  Před rokem +56

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    • @gwho
      @gwho Před rokem +2

      @@vardekpetrovic9716 "for the most case noone knew they were part of such an volatile market. "
      you actually believe this? literally everyone knows crypto is more volatile.
      maybe that's why you lost 1.2 million.

    • @ArawnOfAnnwn
      @ArawnOfAnnwn Před rokem +1

      @@gwho He means they didn't know where their funds were investing. Pension and retirement funds are supposed to be conservative with their investments, but it seems some weren't. The people using these funds don't micro-analyse where they put the money, just as customers of a bank don't check the banks financial reports. These are institutions that're taken to be safe precisely because they're meant to stay away from markets like crypto. It's the fund managers who betrayed that trust.

    • @williamhatfield8935
      @williamhatfield8935 Před rokem

      A far too complicated explanation of this speculative bubble called crypto which has zero lawful use and less value.

    • @dennisbarnes9569
      @dennisbarnes9569 Před rokem

      Sam bank man fried not Sam fried bank man

    • @user12122
      @user12122 Před rokem

      Binance is next

  • @caynebyron
    @caynebyron Před rokem +685

    I love how Joeri refuses to get SBF's name right.

    • @PutXi_Whipped
      @PutXi_Whipped Před rokem +58

      Patrick Boyle is rubbing off on him

    • @me0101001000
      @me0101001000 Před rokem +29

      @@PutXi_Whipped I'd love to see Patrick on his show again, cracking dry jokes at crypto bros

    • @stefanfrankel8157
      @stefanfrankel8157 Před rokem +20

      I was wondering if that was intentional.

    • @IBMboy
      @IBMboy Před rokem +27

      he avoids invoking his spirit

    • @me0101001000
      @me0101001000 Před rokem +2

      @@stefanfrankel8157 it was definitely intentional

  • @Grubiantoll
    @Grubiantoll Před rokem +142

    Imagine Warren Buffet, every decade getting these new kids telling him how they found a way to grow and harvest money trees

    • @gabbar51ngh
      @gabbar51ngh Před rokem +14

      They would have been if they shifted all that money to a safe investment after making record profits. Instead they thought money train won't be having any stops.

    • @kevinc8955
      @kevinc8955 Před rokem +32

      @@gabbar51ngh what you’re describing is not investing. It’s musical chairs gambling.

    • @gabbar51ngh
      @gabbar51ngh Před rokem

      @@kevinc8955 depending on the market some are indeed musical chairs.
      There's reason derivatives market was called financial weapons of mass destruction by Warren Buffett. Not everyone's a passive investor who just puts his money in index or mutual funds looking to get a bit more out of his savings.
      Numerous invested in these cryptos and pulled the money earlier so they are still enjoying it's profits. Any investment with high profits is potentially risky not just cryptos. You even see it in bond market when you realise high profit bonds are considered poor due to higher risk of default.

    • @mam0lechinookclan607
      @mam0lechinookclan607 Před rokem +2

      @@gabbar51ngh that is just a pull out scam, hot potato with way to much money

    • @gabbar51ngh
      @gabbar51ngh Před rokem +3

      @@mam0lechinookclan607 They could have at least diversified it into some safer investments than just putting it all on crypto.
      It was a dumb investing decision by them irrespective of crypto involvement or not.

  • @dogedogego
    @dogedogego Před rokem +377

    somehow dogecoin was the most honest crypto this entire time… the value was always memes

    • @tomlxyz
      @tomlxyz Před rokem +3

      In intention, maybe but eventually it got speculative

    • @dogedogego
      @dogedogego Před rokem +19

      @@tomlxyz still more honest as it was and still is pure “memetic” value

    • @rockfire1669
      @rockfire1669 Před rokem +13

      @@tomlxyzI mean technically he is not wrong with his statement. I never heard official doge ever take itself seriously and always banked on the meme value(don’t know it’s current state, only know as of like 1.5 years ago)

    • @rockfire1669
      @rockfire1669 Před rokem

      Only a technically tho, if you are the working class you should view doge coin as also doing it purposefully

    • @kayakMike1000
      @kayakMike1000 Před rokem +4

      To the Moooooon!

  • @MoneyMacro
    @MoneyMacro  Před rokem +41

    Please ignore the Amazon crypto coin spam comments!

    • @MoneyMacro
      @MoneyMacro  Před rokem +14

      And all other bot comments (I will try to delete them when I get back to a desktop computer)

    • @mikebaker2436
      @mikebaker2436 Před rokem +7

      @@MoneyMacro Hey, maybe if crpto falls far enough, the bots will give us our comment section back. 🤣🤣🤣

    • @DaBaSoftware
      @DaBaSoftware Před rokem +2

      Had to scroll a while to see this comment. Top comment is about AZ whatever numbers and letters with nearly as many likes as this vid within an hour. Hmm.

    • @franklinhirsch1654
      @franklinhirsch1654 Před rokem

      Why did you pronounce it Sam Friedman-Bank? Lmao

    • @DaBaSoftware
      @DaBaSoftware Před rokem +1

      @@franklinhirsch1654 because he's a fried man and fried his bank

  • @kdbadk
    @kdbadk Před rokem +64

    Sham Bankrupt Fraud is the greatest mocking nickname I've ever heard.

    • @steffen1405
      @steffen1405 Před rokem +4

      I thought it was 'Scam' 😅

    • @Horendus123
      @Horendus123 Před rokem

      Since hearing a few days ago Iv been thinking the same thing. Its just genius.
      Scam/sham interchangeable in my books. Both perfect

    • @franciscodanconia4324
      @franciscodanconia4324 Před rokem

      @@steffen1405sham does alliterate with Sam better. Almost sounds like Sean Connery saying his name.

  • @mikebaker2436
    @mikebaker2436 Před rokem +41

    Missed opportunity: the hypothetical example should have been "Straight Arrow" vs "Broken Arrow" 🤣🤣🤣

  • @PK-tt5kk
    @PK-tt5kk Před rokem +123

    And crypto bros used to say crypto will boom in a high inflation environment. 😂

    • @kushalvora7682
      @kushalvora7682 Před rokem +46

      I mean it did go boom. Just not the kind of boom they were claiming.

    • @jeffhicks8428
      @jeffhicks8428 Před rokem +1

      crypto bros are even worse than gold bugs. They woud say it booms in any environment because they understand nothing. Crypto is a product of QE and ZIRP. It along with shitcos like Tesla are the poster children for massive zombie economy bubble misallocation of capital.

    • @mikebaker2436
      @mikebaker2436 Před rokem +1

      When things collapse, what sound do they make? 😉

    • @johnflatt1288
      @johnflatt1288 Před rokem +20

      I love how the logic is that people losing purchasing power via inflation will for some reason put their precious money in a volatile speculative asset. I mean the crypto market is propped up by these big players, but how will it ever recover if retail investors are poorer and have already been bitten by this rotten system already. Are they supposed to trust any of these scammers? And before somebody says cold wallet-that immediately turns off most retail investors who already barely understand it. These exchanges gave them easy access

    • @LeadLeftLeon
      @LeadLeftLeon Před rokem +2

      It did in 2021 when we saw all those price increases

  • @krnsk563
    @krnsk563 Před rokem +29

    That ending/blooper was absolute perfection.

  • @taterkaze9428
    @taterkaze9428 Před rokem +38

    The bigger story isn't about debt, contagion, regulations, or SBF - it's all about Digital Ponzi Tulips.

  • @pratheekcr
    @pratheekcr Před rokem +52

    Your ability to do research, condense the info, make it presentable and easy to understand is top notch 👏👏

    • @neofett9
      @neofett9 Před rokem

      He didn’t even get Sam Bankman-Fried’s name right

    • @lesleyjohnson8488
      @lesleyjohnson8488 Před rokem +2

      @@neofett9 I get the feeling it was on purpose 😂

  • @2Sor2Fig
    @2Sor2Fig Před rokem +35

    My old man worked in finance (banking and insurance), and I've always been annoyed at how often people who talk about markets misunderstand even the basic core concepts, or clearly exaggerate them for their own benefit. You're right often enough about the small things that I'm willing to trust you on the big things. I've watched 6-7 of your videos, but now you've convinced me. All I have to give is my like and subscribe. Dankie.

  • @mikebaker2436
    @mikebaker2436 Před rokem +24

    15:30 Seamless rhetorical recovery when not all the desk dominoes fall. A true professional presenter! 🤣

    • @MoneyMacro
      @MoneyMacro  Před rokem +6

      Hahaha. It was unexpected. I'll admit

    • @mikebaker2436
      @mikebaker2436 Před rokem +4

      @@MoneyMacro An amateur would have redone the take. Instead, we got more analogy and a later callback in the later knockdown. Legend. 🤣🤣🤣

  • @GingerWritings
    @GingerWritings Před rokem +120

    Another part I don't see many people talking about is that FTX was partly exposed and the exposure boosted by a direct competitor (I think Binance).
    I think they thought they would get rid of a rival, but may well collapse the whole rotten business.

    • @mikebaker2436
      @mikebaker2436 Před rokem +31

      Yes, It's clear that FTX was more lucky and crooked than smart. You are touching on a rarely understood aspect of business... that sometimes your competition is symbiotic and is actually keeping you afloat (sometimes unintentionally and sometimes intentionally).

    • @SoulDuckling126
      @SoulDuckling126 Před rokem

      Just like Boeing wouldn't shit on Airbus (or vice versa) even if that means more airplanes sold at the expense of their competitor, because it'll spread fear of their products.

    • @tomlxyz
      @tomlxyz Před rokem +2

      @@mikebaker2436 when is that the case other than in finance?

    • @toolegittoquit_001
      @toolegittoquit_001 Před rokem +13

      This isn't correct. CZ reached out to SBF several times because he knew something wasn't right. He only sold his (FTT) tokens after he received no response from SBF. The FTT tokens he sold were his own and he could sell them when he wanted. And do recall that Caroline offered to buy them all at $22.

    • @mikebaker2436
      @mikebaker2436 Před rokem +12

      @@tomlxyz Probably the easiest example would be industrial symbiosis between complex multinational companies... where reducing competitor's marketshare in one industry, reduces supply or services for your own subsidiary.

  • @PutXi_Whipped
    @PutXi_Whipped Před rokem +9

    The return *OF* your money is more important than the return *ON* your money. - Will Rogers

    • @deeptoot1453
      @deeptoot1453 Před rokem +1

      Warren buffet rule #1 "don't lose money"
      Rule #2 "Don't lose money"

  • @001sander2
    @001sander2 Před rokem +104

    Superb video! Also, Sam Bankman tried to bail out those other exchanges to prevent his FTT tokens from being liquidated.

    • @WillyWanka
      @WillyWanka Před rokem +9

      ... Proving he knew the fraud

    • @otmanh
      @otmanh Před rokem +1

      Can you elaborate Please? I dont get it really 🙈

    • @cdreid9999
      @cdreid9999 Před rokem +8

      @@otmanh so ..this will sound insane. (Coffeezilla explains it better) Ftx created ftt and gave out FTT as colateral. This is insane. It means that if ftx drops in value at all it immediately begins a death spiral. This absolutely wouldnt be allowed in the financial markets and the company would be laughed off wall street

    • @kettelbe
      @kettelbe Před rokem

      @@cdreid9999 fucking regulationsssss

    • @jmsjms296
      @jmsjms296 Před rokem +3

      @@kettelbe Losing your mind?

  • @mikebaker2436
    @mikebaker2436 Před rokem +53

    This is a good video (so far... still watching). It is contributing a neglected macro perspective to the current crypto problems.

    • @jeffhicks8428
      @jeffhicks8428 Před rokem

      Macro perspective is simple. Crypto is a ponzi scheme bubble which could only exist in a ZIRP world of endless monetary expansion. Fed policy is what enabled this to happen so perhaps the fed should continue to suck liquidity and raise rates until all crypto scum vanishes from this earth.

    • @oiinahgiiusadurrybrahchuck7209
      @oiinahgiiusadurrybrahchuck7209 Před rokem

      Attributing*?

  • @CLObandit
    @CLObandit Před rokem +84

    Super grateful for these videos. I feel like I’m in an Ivy League economics class every time I watch

  • @antoniohandel8332
    @antoniohandel8332 Před rokem +51

    How do I really invest in bitcoin and make huge profits , i'm actually confused here, can someone please help me out

    • @annienolen8175
      @annienolen8175 Před rokem

      Same here, It's very confusing seeing so many people talk about the profits the make from there investment in bitcoin while I keep dipping from on win to a bigger loss

    • @eliotbrown5977
      @eliotbrown5977 Před rokem

      @@annienolen8175 Most time having knowledge or insight about a particular activity can as well be a pleasing exercise. I can boldly say that fx and bitcoin is one of the profitable money exchange services that elevates investors and their financial status.

    • @helenmansfield3446
      @helenmansfield3446 Před rokem

      @@eliotbrown5977 That's true most people today have been having a lot of failures in bitcoin because of poor orientation or bad experts

    • @helenmansfield3446
      @helenmansfield3446 Před rokem

      Bitcoin investment (fx) can be profitable and lucrative when it is approached as a business, but achieving a level of success is extremely difficult and can take a long time. It's a good idea to fine an expert of this form of investment prior to getting started with. As you can see, the market is open and operates 24 hours a day and almost seven days a week

    • @victoriamellor2189
      @victoriamellor2189 Před rokem

      @@annienolen8175 Hello!!, I will advise you find an expert around your vicinity to help you while you study the market. Fx investment is a process of which you have to understand these process before going into life trade

  • @DanHaiduc
    @DanHaiduc Před rokem +16

    Thank you for this amazing, clear, and humorous explanation! I loved the "another big round of direct contagion" at 16:27!

  • @chimera7441
    @chimera7441 Před rokem +20

    You have a real talent for explaining difficult concepts in a clear and understandable way.

    • @madjunac
      @madjunac Před rokem

      I consider myself to be a little above the average (when speaking of intelligence). But I really lose grasp after only a few sentences when I watch videos like this. I think that everyone one of them lack the concept of initial logic. And afterwards, everything is tangled up in economic slang. I'm convinced that everyone with the thorough knowledge of the theme speaking about can explain (that particular theme) in a few simple sentences. I've never heard anyone speaking about Crypto in a plain English. Behind Crypto is a simple addition and subtraction mathematics. It looks like I'll have to wait for someone to dumb it down for me

    • @jmsjms296
      @jmsjms296 Před rokem +2

      @@madjunac If you're so smart, why not try harder and get your own synthesis done?

    • @madjunac
      @madjunac Před rokem +1

      @@jmsjms296 what a cool tip...

  • @ZeromuS_
    @ZeromuS_ Před rokem +12

    havent watched it all yet but THANK YOU I've been looking forward to your video on this knowing that you'd be taking a macro look at it :D Thank you so much Joeri!

  • @TC-KEREM
    @TC-KEREM Před rokem +5

    Such a great and knowledgeable video.

  • @inversigmaUS
    @inversigmaUS Před rokem +1

    Thanks a lot Joeri!

  • @jojosthenewblack
    @jojosthenewblack Před rokem +2

    Lol! You keep calling him Friedman Bank and not Bankman Fried! 😂

  • @inmm7961
    @inmm7961 Před rokem +4

    Hahaha love the blooper at the end!

  • @sidkings
    @sidkings Před rokem +10

    I find it hilarious some people didn't see this coming 🤣

    • @cdreid9999
      @cdreid9999 Před rokem +1

      Wait til tether tanks. Theyve used every lie and trick in the books to prop it up and theyre running out of tricks

    • @jakw97
      @jakw97 Před rokem

      Half of the financial world has money in crypto, people where making so much money did not care to question it.
      Many still don't

  • @foute90s
    @foute90s Před rokem +55

    Hey Jouri, Thank you for this clear video.
    Every now and then I have a discussion with some friends on the term "crypto investment". I personally am of the opinion that you can't invest in crypto by buying crypto currencies but can only speculate.- It is possible to invest in crypto currencies by buying shares in a company that exploits the technology behind the currency. Although I'm not sure what the business model of those currencies would be.
    My main argument is that currencies don't produce value on its own, hence you can only speculate on the demand. Ofcourse the service of transferring value does provide some value, but that is not what you are doing when you buy currencies by expecting the price to go up.
    Maybe this question would fit well into a future video on "the value of crypto currencies".

    • @epgui
      @epgui Před rokem +1

      His name is Joeri.

    • @richteffekt
      @richteffekt Před rokem +4

      I think you're making sense and bring one or two key points. A currency, and that of course is a bit to the discretion of the banks and central bank in an economy, should have an opposite, active asset. Like in a ledger where on one side there is the house you want to build and on the other, there is what you owe the bank for it (and the bank has a similar ledger where they exchange similar debt requests with the central bank).
      Neither your house nor the cash yet exist but once you and the bank shake on it you owe them a house in return for 1 house-equivalent paid to you in cash. Or you repay them - most people prefer that option as they get to keep the house.
      I continually fail to discover however what the asset side of crypto would be. I mean Satoshi isn't going to give me guaranteed Dollar for my Bitcoin, so there's no debt. Needless to say there's no house. They burn a lot of energy, I hear, making the actual tokens but that's literally up in smoke and of no real future use. From a capital perspective I'd therefore agree - I'd also find it impossible to see how to "invest" in crypto. Maybe we're looking at it wrong and a future video WILL explain it?

    • @rileynicholson2322
      @rileynicholson2322 Před rokem +1

      Companies that exploit the technology would be something like graphics card companies that sell to crypto miners. Or even energy companies supplying electricity to mining operations. Unfortunately both still risk losing a lot of demand if they aren't diversified to wider markets and crypto collapses.

    • @oiinahgiiusadurrybrahchuck7209
      @oiinahgiiusadurrybrahchuck7209 Před rokem +4

      @@richteffekt I think it could be suggested that the “invest” part of crypto, from a typical perspective, is the expectation that crypto’s utility as a currency will be recognised more and more, and increasingly adopted, which creates a demand, where the scarcity mechanism then limits supply, which then will drive up value, providing early adopters with wealth increase.
      The issue arises in that cryptography is not necessarily as practical as preexisting fintech, particularly since the development of NPP.
      Realistically, if cryptocurrency can’t provide a practical edge over the newest traditional banking fintech, then the “investment” is nothing more than a pyramid scheme and an exercise in greater fool theory.

    • @richteffekt
      @richteffekt Před rokem +3

      @@oiinahgiiusadurrybrahchuck7209 thanks for highlighting a possible trajectory for investors who might be interested. Personally I don't think that utility is the key issue (and that of course is just my humble opinion). Instead crypto's utility seems to also define its most useful application. Single, non- repeating transactions in fringe or dodgy environments where the involved parties neither trust the marketplace nor each other and therefore prefer resorting to a more practical version of the precious metal coins of the past.
      Today's money on the other hand stores debt and is thus very different. And in most lasting business interactions, I think, debt and capital assets are the building blocks and a currency needs to map that. That is why I think that actual application of crypto- based transactions to be very much limited albeit it non-zero.

  • @Elisandro2cool
    @Elisandro2cool Před rokem +2

    WHOA SO MUCH CONTENT IN A SHORT TIME!

  • @Embassy_of_Jupiter
    @Embassy_of_Jupiter Před rokem +16

    The issue with crypto is that most investors practice this new trendy innovative investment approach I call 'brainless'

  • @AcuraAddicted
    @AcuraAddicted Před rokem +47

    Yep, leverage (which is basically GREED) pretty much destroyed the crypto industry. It was a bad idea to utilize the stock market strategies to crypto.

    • @8eight104
      @8eight104 Před rokem +17

      I’ve always been skeptical of crypto, but it seems like it would work better if people actually treated it like currency. It isn’t and I believe that’s why it’s so unstable.

    • @floxy20
      @floxy20 Před rokem +13

      @@8eight104 It's the official currency of El Salvador and yet people are smart enough not to use it and prefer U.S. dollars.

    • @fredrikhelland8194
      @fredrikhelland8194 Před rokem +12

      @@floxy20 for most practical purposes, El Salvador is not a real country though.

    • @davec3974
      @davec3974 Před rokem +3

      Leverage isn't a creation of people trading in the stock market. Most people use leverage to buy a house, and that also pushes up prices.

    • @PlayedbyInstinct
      @PlayedbyInstinct Před rokem +2

      The greed/fear cycle is an inherent feature of any speculative environment, not just stocks or in this case crypto.

  • @kirilokun2426
    @kirilokun2426 Před rokem

    Great content. Thanks. A point of style: you don't have to keep your hands in the air the entire time.

  • @gfunk425
    @gfunk425 Před rokem +1

    Amazing breakdown with included history.

  • @hanifarroisimukhlis5989
    @hanifarroisimukhlis5989 Před rokem +78

    Really good video! 👍
    Though small nitpick. Unlike Celcius, FTX did NOT offer high interest loan. What they do is leveraging using funds that were not supposed to be leveraged. This means FTX could get in full legal trouble (Celcius used the "unsecured loan" loophole).

    • @IvarDaigon
      @IvarDaigon Před rokem +8

      yes they did their product was called FTX Earn.. and even though some users were not using it. many were.

    • @lonyo5377
      @lonyo5377 Před rokem +4

      @@IvarDaigon per SBF, there was no way of separating deposited funds between the types of depositors so all funds were treated the same. This also meant people making withdrawal requests from a loaned pool were getting the money of non loaned depositors rather than taking a hit.

    • @IvarDaigon
      @IvarDaigon Před rokem +3

      @@lonyo5377 yep and that's one good reason why you should never give your tokens to an any company that engages in speculative trading unless you're willing to accept the risks because even if the tokens are held in separate, buckets the temptation is too great for the management to temporarily 'borrow' those funds in order to cover short term losses.
      As soon as your tokens are in a wallet that you yourself don't control there is always a risk of theft, loss or mismanagement.
      Crypto firms are not banks, they are not 'too big to fail' and they are not going to get any government bailouts if they collapse.

  • @deeptoot1453
    @deeptoot1453 Před rokem +2

    Great video Joeri!

  • @garmond6946
    @garmond6946 Před rokem

    By far my favorite economics/"finance" channel

  • @VictorAntares
    @VictorAntares Před rokem +2

    Always good stuff

  • @marcinekpomaranski
    @marcinekpomaranski Před rokem

    Amazing video. Thank you :)

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 Před rokem +3

    I hate it when people call the ones who are able to make big bucks as “.geniuses”, especially through shoddy methods. Wealth is not intelligence.

  • @mitotakjde9763
    @mitotakjde9763 Před rokem +10

    I believe that FTX bailed out block-fi to save Alameda, as if block-fi filed for bankruptcy, the enormous loans to Alameda would be called, and Alameda didn't have the money for that, and also their collateral for that loan was FTT. Im curious how this plays out

    • @rtqii
      @rtqii Před rokem

      Yep, for sure.

  • @LiveType
    @LiveType Před rokem +9

    Heh, the reason crypto goes up in price is speculation. Free debt = sky high prices. Wait until the next quantitative easing. The exact same thing will occur.

    • @jintarokensei3308
      @jintarokensei3308 Před rokem +1

      The next QA will obliterate what's left of the dollar tho, so that crypto is gonna be even more worthless

    • @jeffhicks8428
      @jeffhicks8428 Před rokem

      What really enabled the crypto boom this time was the next phase of monetary policy once we were already pushing on a string, that is debt monetization and the coordination of fiscal with monetary. US basically becoming like third world country. Bitcoin traded basically like 4x etf on speculative "innovation" or "tech" trading at 100x sales or whatever nonsense.

    • @suyashneelambugg
      @suyashneelambugg Před rokem

      People have lost money, and trust as well. Quantitative easing will make them want to try recover losses but with a very high degree of lack of trust!

    • @jintarokensei3308
      @jintarokensei3308 Před rokem +1

      @@jeffhicks8428 Tesla in the same boat

    • @jeffhicks8428
      @jeffhicks8428 Před rokem

      @@jintarokensei3308 Absolutely. But that's my line. I've been trying to decide which is the bigger bubble, tsla or the cypto ponzi. With tsla at least going back to 2018, last time we had a tightening cycle, putting tsla weeks or days from bankruptcy, saved by the fed quickly pivoting back to expansion.

  • @tomdonovan4842
    @tomdonovan4842 Před rokem

    Very insightful well done report

  • @squorsh
    @squorsh Před rokem +2

    Woah you're telling me that deflationary currencies with no inherent value will collapse like a house of cards when the masses try to take their money out? Who could've seen this coming?
    I disagree with the idea that the contagion needs to be stopped; crypto as an industry deserves to die

  • @Marksman3434
    @Marksman3434 Před rokem +9

    Are you calling him "Friedman-Bank" as a joke? Or is that a mistake?

    • @vakeeshrupan8696
      @vakeeshrupan8696 Před rokem +1

      "friedman"😂

    • @fraufuchs9555
      @fraufuchs9555 Před rokem

      It's a mistake. He corrects it on the screen text when he mispronounces it for the first time.

  • @NickVetter
    @NickVetter Před rokem +8

    I had money in blockfi and after celsius, I immediately took it all out. Got pretty lucky.

  • @timbocracy
    @timbocracy Před rokem +1

    This video is great!!!!!

  • @coscinaippogrifo
    @coscinaippogrifo Před rokem +10

    great job in refocusing the attention on what the real problem is!!!

  • @KeithWhittingham
    @KeithWhittingham Před rokem +1

    A good analogy for what was going on in FTX/Alameda would be taking blood out of its left arm and injecting it into its right arm.

  • @hankhillsnrrwurethra
    @hankhillsnrrwurethra Před rokem +4

    Bots are still bullish lol

  • @DS-tj2tu
    @DS-tj2tu Před rokem

    Thank you.

  • @adam346
    @adam346 Před rokem +2

    a couple I know told me they keep about 20% of their savings in crypto and were hedging more and more each year.. this was in 2019... I haven't talked to them recently... they seem to be ignoring my calls.

  • @MuhammadUsman-ox4ve
    @MuhammadUsman-ox4ve Před rokem

    Really good video

  • @madeofnapalm
    @madeofnapalm Před rokem +1

    - You crypto thing is just imaginary value.
    - No it's not!
    - Yes it is.
    - Oh man, it really is.
    If only we could have seen this coming

  • @vzuzukin
    @vzuzukin Před rokem

    This is like a children's show teaching banking. I love it!

  • @heinrizliyaputra7811
    @heinrizliyaputra7811 Před rokem

    Love your video

  • @brandodurham
    @brandodurham Před rokem +14

    Loving watching all crypto ride down to it’s correct price of $0

    • @user-cn8vb9hh5z
      @user-cn8vb9hh5z Před rokem

      Agreed! There will be efficiencies from the technology but they seem to be small. The financial markets are pretty efficient anyway.

    • @ryansutedjo6704
      @ryansutedjo6704 Před rokem +5

      Negative... Because all electricity wasted to to "mine" a.k.a solving useless calculations

    • @DanHaiduc
      @DanHaiduc Před rokem

      @@ryansutedjo6704 The cost of mining is comparable to the cost of inflation of fiat currency.

    • @UsoundsGermany
      @UsoundsGermany Před rokem

      More like 5-10$ as the storage tech at least is of some (real) value

  • @FinEco-ct1yy
    @FinEco-ct1yy Před rokem +10

    This thing remind me of the South-Asian crisis, when the exchange rate of these countries fallen so bad that every one in the region couldn't solve a thing except of course Malaysia, south-Korea and Taiwan.
    So for both south-Korea and Taiwan It was technically a U.S saving, but for Malaysia things were different since they used the currency pegging.
    I'm not very well aware of the Crypto market but with a certain stabilization at least in the short term things can be lead to minimize the chain-rings effect along whit a big entrance to the fundamentalists to make some bridging toward the real economy.
    Afterall the more separation between Finance and real economy, The more destabilization finance will face.

  • @DanielMatan
    @DanielMatan Před rokem +1

    thank you so very much for your in debt videos! one thing i did not quite understand is why you consider grayscale a hedge fund if all it did was storing investors money in different crypto funds such as gbtc using Coinbase custody. i mean if genesis goes down and so dcg as a result cant they just liquidate their shares in the fund without dissolving it? i dont see how dissolving can benefit someone unless if those funds where mishandled which i find hard to belive because unlike ftx grayscale funds are grantor trusts which are regulated to some degree.

  • @tristanwegner
    @tristanwegner Před rokem

    I really liked the graphics with straight arrow capital.

  • @kenfauteux7405
    @kenfauteux7405 Před rokem +6

    Binance has dropped their staking rewards drastically as the bear market has tanked. That’s what helps keep them afloat. If bear market continues they may have to continue dropping those rates.

    • @lokijordan
      @lokijordan Před rokem +1

      If they can hang in there until the wind up to the Bitcoin halving, they'll do quite well.

  • @Nohandleentered
    @Nohandleentered Před rokem +4

    If it’s crypto wouldn’t it be a
    de-financial crises 😂 🥁
    Also, bots are going crazy in the chat 🤖

  • @PyThomaz
    @PyThomaz Před rokem +1

    I'm interested in an sustainability/economic analysis of crypto platforms. Specifically, where does money come from, where does it go, who's paying for the coin ecosystem to keep running, who are the main benefactors cashing out, etc...

  • @chrisc5991
    @chrisc5991 Před rokem

    We have an exchange here in the Philippines since 2017 at it has always remained to be an exchange and nothing else and they are already profitable

  • @CharlesBallowe
    @CharlesBallowe Před rokem

    Is there any way to get stats on how much of the daily liquid supply of a token exists relative to the amount of that token pledged to cover loans?

  • @anons000
    @anons000 Před rokem +1

    Really starting to wonder if this space is even worth being in if we haven’t even seen the worst of it yet. There’s little upside and huge downside

  • @statostheman
    @statostheman Před rokem +1

    I always been skeptical of crypto since it was interduce. When Daniel Nielsen said at 6:56 as his speech directly aimed at Warren Buffet, it an method been used here in Sweden so called "the ruler technique". Its like gaslighting but he wanted set a dominance, where he's always right when Warren is always wrong.

  • @tomlxyz
    @tomlxyz Před rokem +6

    Funny how the whole crypto scene turns more and more like the banking system it was supposed to replace, even with bailouts now

    • @mikebaker2436
      @mikebaker2436 Před rokem +2

      Wheels getting reinvented.

    • @KeinNiemand
      @KeinNiemand Před rokem +3

      Well FTX is not crypto it's a centrilised exchange. Not your private keys not your wallet.

    • @SineN0mine3
      @SineN0mine3 Před rokem +2

      @@KeinNiemand get used to it, people who still don't understand crypto never will.

    • @tomlxyz
      @tomlxyz Před rokem

      @@KeinNiemand you may not like it but that's where the majority of crypto goes

  • @zeddist7472
    @zeddist7472 Před rokem +11

    Crypto reminds me a bit of the CDS boom, both had a valid reason for existence but greed ultimately got the best of them. I don’t think much of all the coins out there, as they are entirely built on the (speculative) hope that many consider them a store of value, but I do appreciate the digital innovation brought about, allowing for the tokenization (and trading) of illiquid and once inaccessible assets, such as real estate or private equity, thereby rendering them available to smaller investors, and I do believe that will be crypto’s legacy.

    • @cdreid9999
      @cdreid9999 Před rokem

      imho literally all crypro is, intentionally or not, a ponzi scheme.

    • @TheCommonS3Nse
      @TheCommonS3Nse Před 9 měsíci +1

      I think another way to look at it is through the analysis of Mark Blyth in his book Austerity, although he doesn't actually address cryptocurrencies in that book.
      Neoliberalism was all about reducing government spending as a signal to investors that there will be lower tax rates in the future, spurring investment in the present.
      The problem with this theory is that it fails to recognize the role that government spending plays in cultivating economic activity.
      Therefore, after decades of neoliberal policies, we have starved our economies to the point that there is no new space for investment. Where in the past our governments would have spent huge sums on major projects like railroads and the Hoover Dam, they instead chose to pull money out of the economy. As a result, we don't get the productive benefits of these major projects 10-20 years down the road. No Hoover Dam means no Las Vegas and all that investment opportunity is lost for years to come.
      Now, we have economies that are tied to stagnant industries like oil and coal, with very little infrastructure in place to transition us into more profitable industries of the future like battery technology and chip manufacturing. This means that capital gets pushed out of productive development and into other asset classes such as real estate and cryptocurrency, causing bubbles.
      Maybe in a world where we had ample productive investment opportunities, crypto would have been valued for it's blockchain technology rather than it's speculative value. But sadly that is not the case.

  • @rejvaik00
    @rejvaik00 Před rokem

    Joey rocking that turtle neck! Looking good 😉

  • @converter
    @converter Před rokem +1

    Very clear explanation! Thanks for educating me :)

  • @aygulismayilova4959
    @aygulismayilova4959 Před rokem

    Part of a very important coin been talked about in the BCL

  • @droydi
    @droydi Před rokem

    Gotta love the screwing around with the names; Sam Friedman Bank, Luna Terra :^ )

  • @camiloguzman1801
    @camiloguzman1801 Před rokem

    Is Crypto replicating Shadow Banking system or facing the same hurdlings that early 19-20th Century Banking.

  • @vijaymujumdar5617
    @vijaymujumdar5617 Před rokem

    What will happen to inflation if your remedy of fed reversing interest rate hikes is implemented ?

  • @Mark-ug1so
    @Mark-ug1so Před rokem

    Thanks for bringing us up to speed with the whole crypto situation, but there's something that's been bugging me since i started watching the vid.
    Why do you look like an older version of Derek Muller from Veritasium??

  • @azarhuseynov287
    @azarhuseynov287 Před rokem

    I wonder whether there is a possibility to create a lender/dealer of last resort in that crypto world. Just like Sam of FTX tried to rescue BlockFI. (Great content btw. This channel is really underrated otherwise it should have hit millions of subs)

  • @russcraig1216
    @russcraig1216 Před rokem

    So, crypto needs the "printing" of more fiat currency to support it's asset value. When I say asset value, I clearly use the words "asset" and "value" in the broadest possible senses. So much for "freedom" from reserve banks and governments. Crypto remains a problem looking for other applications and starting to find them. The solution seems to be fiat money and reality (and maybe a bit of gold if one is that way inclined).

  • @NA-gi3vb
    @NA-gi3vb Před rokem +2

    It seems so rare to find a knowledgable video or article regarding crypto without the authors obvious biases ( for or against ) bleeding though. Straight information with a bit of candor. It is refreshing & very much appreciated.

  • @abrvalg321
    @abrvalg321 Před rokem +7

    Joeri, could you, please, not mispronounce the names of the subjects in your videos? One of your greatest strength is how neutral you are. And such practise may take that away.

  • @AlbertoNeurohr
    @AlbertoNeurohr Před rokem

    Joeri, when these firms operate with leverage, who is paying the extra for that leverage? Where is the extra money coming from? And when the assets fall, who is charging them?

  • @benschull8752
    @benschull8752 Před rokem

    Its all a great story that we tell each other...as long as we believe each other i guess. The whole thing reminds me ofthe monopoly game, specifically the money used while playing it. That multicolored paper has definite value while playing that game, but is it an actual storage of value or perceived? Would i spend actual cash on this perceived value? Is my cash even a storage of value? Is gold? Its all individual self- interested perception games played out on a socioeconomic scale in the end- wether from an investor or corporation or SBF or whoevers place in the equation

  • @Stopinvadingmyhardware

    I’m working on it.

  • @waterbloom1213
    @waterbloom1213 Před rokem

    What is the evidence that supports stopping a raise in IR or stimuli by the FED?
    I don't get how injecting more money into the financial system is going to stop asset bubbles from forming and help stabilize inflation.

    • @userunknown7675
      @userunknown7675 Před rokem

      He doesn't mean stop bubbles from forming. He means that if money is cheap once again it is likely going to be used to speculate. Thus prop up the current crypto bubble.

  • @cartersal1693
    @cartersal1693 Před rokem +1

    You should come up with new ways to mess up SBF’s name if he comes up in future videos. Hearing it screwed up was unreasonably funny

  • @keosan
    @keosan Před rokem +2

    Come for the crypto news, stay for you waving around those imaginary orbs ❤️

  • @pablobrener4890
    @pablobrener4890 Před rokem

    Is the same deleveraging coming to bonds?

  • @zachariea
    @zachariea Před rokem +16

    Very high quality video. I would've maybe made a bigger case for comparison between how commercial banks and crypto exchanges actually have a similar structure in terms of liquidity. To be clearer, I mean that commercial banks, just like crypto exchanges, are not expected to have 100% cash reserves. But this also highlights the danger since exchanges, unlike banks, have no regulation - ie, they can hold MUCH riskier positions...

    • @mikebaker2436
      @mikebaker2436 Před rokem +3

      ...and they lack government insurance, policy consolidations, and bailouts.

  • @jjaxner
    @jjaxner Před 10 měsíci

    0:49 10:25 12:35 18:00 Sam Bankman-Fried!!!! Was he misnamed on purpoae?

  • @steveatkinson2196
    @steveatkinson2196 Před rokem +1

    Fundamentally none of these companies learned from the past banking failures. They were also not monitoring their level risk.

  • @kla4600
    @kla4600 Před rokem

    My FroogCoins and MemeTokens are safe, right?

  • @PrinceCbass
    @PrinceCbass Před rokem

    contagion is not over, just can kicking at the moment but that can is beginning to harden with concrete

  • @jomigregory7253
    @jomigregory7253 Před rokem

    So basically crypto exchange or traditional funds, all are following the same mechanics..
    Leveraged bets for higher yields (speculation or hedging) and when assets depreciate - margin call hits .. massive assets sales needed.. further depreciation.. contagion and the feedback loop.
    Only thing is that traditional financial bets are more democratized- they are tied to common people's pensions or mortgaged homes. So central banks or govt will stop the contagion by doing what caused it again.. ( recent UK pension fiasco)
    Funny world

  • @kennethbrian806
    @kennethbrian806 Před rokem

    Oh my, Saagar at the beginning! So glad to see more people internationally watching Breaking Points ❤️

  • @olgringold5142
    @olgringold5142 Před rokem +8

    FTX only stopped the contagion because BlockFi and Voyager had billions in rehypothecated FTT collateral to dump, which would've taken out FTX along side them. They eventually went down anyway.

  • @SteelSculptor
    @SteelSculptor Před rokem

    Damn 3% of Bitcoin is almost 10billion. Is there that much dollar liquidity in the market? if we say there is 100billion total liquidity in BTC (f'ing generous) , then we're talking ~$5k price target for bitcoin if greyscale goes bust.

  • @jaysabilla8596
    @jaysabilla8596 Před rokem

    leverage due to rising asset prices - can this logic apply to USD index?

    • @tomlxyz
      @tomlxyz Před rokem

      Buying the USD index means just holding USD and no one is giving you a loan that has low enough interest rates for that to work out

  • @dansplain2393
    @dansplain2393 Před rokem +1

    I think you have a maths error. Between the upside case study and the downside case study you’ve doubled the debt. In the downside case study it should be 25% debt not 50%

  • @temporelucemtenebris5313

    I'll watch the video tomorrow, but for now: watching the Netherlands play against Argentina today was amazing. What a game! I am Croatian, so I enjoyed our game more, but the Dutch were so interesting to watch. We will avenge you against Messi, hahah

  • @carlwratten6200
    @carlwratten6200 Před rokem

    This is video that everybody interested in crypto should watch. The moral of the story is don't let your ego carry you away from your senses. Stay grounded in the boring.

  • @hardstylelife5749
    @hardstylelife5749 Před rokem +1

    May I ask what’s your perspective on the other exchanges still out there (I.e. binance): I recently heard a lot of rumours and news about several potential issues (including the recent 2 billions dollar transactions, claimed by binance as being “necessary” and requested by the auditor). Any clue/insights on them being involved (voluntarily or involuntarily) into a similar circle as ftx, and/or if it’s likely they’ll be scrutinized/audited any time soon, and consequently eventually being a piece more to fall expanding furthermore the contagion? Very interesting analysis and summary!

    • @tomo1168
      @tomo1168 Před rokem +2

      Binance is shady as f. It is even unknown, where the company is registered.

    • @hardstylelife5749
      @hardstylelife5749 Před rokem +1

      @@tomo1168 one of the reasons I would definitely be interested in knowing more about it

    • @tomo1168
      @tomo1168 Před rokem +1

      @@hardstylelife5749 We will know more, wenn it will go bust :)

    • @cdreid9999
      @cdreid9999 Před rokem

      Coffeezilla covered binance. It wasnt good.

    • @hardstylelife5749
      @hardstylelife5749 Před rokem

      @@cdreid9999 good to know, thanks for the tip, I’ll check it out !