THE BEST GAMING CPU?? AMD Ryzen 9000 & Zen 5 Explained - Everything we know about Ryzen 9950X 9600X
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- čas přidán 27. 06. 2024
- AMD has come out the gate swinging, claiming their new Ryzen 9950X is the fastest gaming CPU on the market - or will be when it launches in July. This Zen 5 based chip, along with the three other Ryzen 9000 series chips they announced at Computex this year form the lineup that will challenge Intel’s Arrow Lake desktop chips when those launch later this year. If you want to know all about Arrow Lake by the way, I did a full deep dive video that I’ll link in the cards above for you to check out - but this video is all about AMD, and boy there’s a lot to get through, so strap in.
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Thanks! can you also review ECC RAM for these CPUs? the fastest or the mostest config please
According to leaks the x3d's are getting 2 ccd cache, so those are the ones to wait for.
You mean "3d vcache" on both chiplets? Neat! No more *wrong CCD* shenanigans!
Yeah. I'll hold off for 9800X3D.
I would not buy one , its going to a mess in games because latency between the two will make stuttering in games. Single ccd is still the way to go.
The problem in the past with 3d cache on all the cores was the lower clocks made it slower in many applications than faster clocks without the extra cache. And more than 8 cores with v-cache didn't make for faster gaming performance in most games
@@impuls60 How do you know?
It’s strange X870 motherboards won’t be available after you buy a new 9000 series CPU
Why? People have am5 motherboards who support 9000 series
@@bluelootgoblin You’re right they will work but they are 2 years old. I’d be pissed not to have a new motherboard to go with my new 9000 series CPU
@@Kapono5150 it was the same when ryzen 5000 released
@@tubaeseries5705 You don’t find this odd ? Wouldn’t someone that just bought a 9000 series wanna pair with a New MOBO
@@Kapono5150 new means what? same techs and specs lol
Genereally asking. How does the lower base clock affect the cpu is system getting noticeably slower ?
The clock speed of a processor is not as crucial as one might assume.
The clock speed merely indicates the rate at which the CPU completes a specific number of cycles.
Each 1GHz represents 1 billion CPU cycles per second.
However, if each cycle becomes more efficient by increasing the IPC (instructions per cycle), a processor with a lower clock speed may still outperform a processor with a higher clock speed.
Don't get stuck thinking clock speed is the measurement of performance.
Bro, why is this video like 2 weeks late?
One of the first things I do on a gaming rig is disable co-pilot. No thanks to AI fluff for my gaming rig. If I am using Photoshop or Office Apps it can be useful.. So the AI chip stuff is mostly a yawn for me (it's nice at work but not where the fun is at).
Honestly not sure what is “rather impressive” about 16% ipc. It came after a 20+ months cadence, and includes games and geekbench sub tests of all things.
Not sure why you would perceive the inclusion of games in an ipc calculation at all positive anyway, last gen they were atypical inclusions that inflated the rather low ipc gain, and looking at the results it yielded this time it is hard to interpret it any differently than last time.
Very simple. Gamers buy cpus more than anyone. They want he cutting edge tech. Desktop pcs not data centers are what ryzen cpus are for. They weren't displaying epycs in that display.
LOWER BASE CLOCK MEANS SLOWER WINDOWS PROCESSING
APPLICATIONS WILL OPEN SLOWEE
Oh no... Anyways
Starting with the clickbait I see 😅😅😂😂
I don't think desktops need these tiny NPUs. Any gpu could destroy them. A 4090 is something like 1400 tops I believe.
Problem is the majority or businesses PC's have no graphics cards. That's why modern ryzen cpus have a small on chip graphics component, to make a legitimate option for businesses. It will be the same for AI
The little tiny in-built ones are cheap commodity add-ins to give companies like Microsoft easier access to user data, nothing more. Microsoft doesn't want that $1500 barrier to data-collection entry.
@@WSS_the_OG Why would they want use data except to make better products? Or do you think there are people in the back rooms of Microsoft sniggering at your holiday pics?
@@Safetytrousers The sheer value of telemetry. It's highly profitable / monetisable.
@@WSS_the_OG If Microsoft were caught selling user data it would potentially end a trillion dollar company. And if you are a $3.32 trillion company why would you want to risk it by doing that?
Paul you should have figured out the AMD and Intel cost : price / margin formula by now. Again I will state the basic formula that is easy to remember. The price of AMD CPUs to OEM and volume retail, any SKU, basic formula is MSRP / 3 * 1.5. and for Intel $1K price / 2. I want you to foster awareness of this with the audience so every intro I don't have to go over something that should already be instilled; call the basic formula FTC monitor mike's basic formula for calculating AMD and Intel price to volume retail.
Ryzen 9K again is a 1st degree price scheme that let's the channel test MSRP and then decide what to price at and, higher or lower over the long run administering price reduction to spur demand or in step with supply and demand. AMD does not offer price protection on prior gen CPUs in inventory or cash discounts. Any AMD price competitive discount in an Intel head-on sales negotiation is made up in product. AMD throws in some bundle deal sales close incentive to sweeten a procurement or to present a competitive sales package in relation to Intel.
On a weighed average, R9K SKU split mirroring percent of SKUs supplies is more or less a repeat of R7K. Average price in a full line procurement is around $229 per CPU and I will confirm this when AMD announces the actual pricing. $1K AWP is $457.15 on SKU weight relying on R7K long run as the example, at less 50% that is OEM or volume retail price = $228.57. Now on the r9K leaked pricing, volume gross for a 16C = $353, 12C = $267. 8C = $214, 6C = $166 that suggests TSMC average price to AMD on full line supply weight is in the range of $152 t0 $165 with a 3D version adding $50 per 32 GB SRAM die.
Now we can also plan the price slide from so said R9K introductory price. You will note from volume retail 16C = $353.04, 12C = @267.44, 8C = $213.94, 6C = 165.79 when you add +100% markup that is x2 this equals the so said R9K MSRP. So, it's not AMD taking + 100% margin it's volume retail and with retail in particular because they still have R7K and R5K in inventory to clear and the 'high rent' R9K margin makes up for their margin sacrifice discounting R7K and R5.
Now for an OEM prebuilt the situation might be a bit different for that NEW R9K PC. This is because there's more competition among OEMs for a PC sale and its more difficult to get x2 cost for a NEW CPU from AMD in a prebuilt. Also the various system components, including the last gen ones, GPUs in particular allow the SI some margin juggling in a PC sale. But for retail, yea, price out the gate x2 cost from AMD is ordinary.
I mentioned the R9K sliding discount over time, well that's easy on a 1st degree 'consumer discriminatory' price scheme that discriminates against buyers who can afford, or can price justify that brand new x2 over cost priced R9K on business productivity cost offset for a brand new performance CPU. So what's the discount from AMD price to the retail outlet after x2, well than its cost * 1.75, and cost * 1.66 and cost * 1.5 that is typically a peak production volume price (volume doubles price drops by < 50%) and then entering run down cost * 1.33 and cost * 1.25 and at the very end cost * 1.10 and entering clearance price to the end buyer = retail cost so the retail seller can clear their inventory that is exactly like now for R7K and R5K.
Right now no volume retailer pays anything for 7700, 7600_, 5600_, pays a smidge over AMD cost for 58/5700X3D and 7800X3D and volume retail pays nothing for Hawk APUs they are all bundled into the total AMD procurement. Subsequently the retail outlets make 100% profit on these bundle deal CPUS from AMD and I*F THE end buyer knew this they would have a lot more negotiation angles (especially on a kit purchase) BUT ONLY IF THEY KNOW and I have provided this counsel for 5 years and YOU still refuse to say anything in terms of informing, educating end buyers, fostering knowledge on this. By the way for the Inter buyer all SKUs down bin 600Ks cost retail nothing
So remember the basic volume cost rule. AMD = MSRP / 3 * 1.5 that is what volume retail pays on average. For Intel its $1K / 2.
You really should educate on this so I don't have to every next AMD or Intel introduction. This is really basic and everyone, certainly every enthusiast, should know have this knowledge its just an educational perquisite to know how to calculate seller CPU cost : price / margin. mb
What in the bloody hell are you talking about
@@Ruben98RaptoR Cost : Price / Margin data. How to estimate AMD and Intel volume price in a direct customer purchase. It's actually a little more complicated but this will see you threw. Industrial (sales) management. Tips for consumer protection . . . If you have a specific questions please do. mb
fuck ai i hate intel and amd now
why
AI is a euphemism for super stealthy hardware based spyware
Who cares when your GPU’s can’t deliver that “performance” unless you got 350-400watt GPU that gets beat by a 250-300watt Nvidia card. Good thing the AMD CPU’s are low power cause the GPU’s are hungry like a 4090 but slower.
Nahhhhh 💀💀💀 man just want to hate
You know it’s legal to use Ryzen with nvidia gpus right?