Ask Me Anything! (Part 2)
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- čas přidán 4. 07. 2024
- This video answers some audience questions sent to me via the comment section or social media. Drop more questions for Part 3 of the series!
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0:00 Start
1:00 Do you send out rough sketches?
2:51 Do orchestrators look at the picture?
4:36 Why use streamer, punches, and click?
6:28 Relationship between composers and re-recording mixers?
9:32 Will you release MIDI packs?
13:10 Dealing with temp music
18:28 Books and resource recommendations?
20:06 Do you write library music?
22:35 Do you wait for inspiration?
22:56 Software updates
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Best quote ever: “do the work you lazy fuck.”. Honestly I love it. Composing is a vocation and a lifelong one at that. I cannot stand the idea of people thinking they can take shortcuts to achieving fame and fortune. It’s work. Rewarding work when you put the time in but work. If you want fun, play a video game.
I literally had to put my head under the kitchen faucet to stop laughing. This whole Q5 answer: delivery, timing, performance, everything was right on point. I'm totally a hobbyist. But I like to think I'm a good hobbyist because of the 10K Answer: How do you get good at something? 10,000 hours doing it.
absolutely agree
That would be on a t-shirt. Merch it up!
I'm an amateur composer, unpretentious, just for fun :) Your channel is a source of knowledge and inspiration, thank you very much! What you tell in this video about people who pretend to compose without wanting to make an effort to learn the theory behind it reminded me of the story about Ptolemy, king of Egypt, asking Euclid if there was a shorter path to learning geometry than reading his Elements (too difficult to study), which Euclid replied with "Sire, there is no Royal Road to Geometry.". Greetings from Spain!
Reaper just doesn't have the update problem!!! Best daw!!
I am a hobbyist but I would love the opportunity to spend a month just observing you work. Best of luck in the future.
I've learned so much from this channel in the last few days and I can't thank you enough Anne!
I'm so happy to hear that!
Wine is a good influence for your channel! Thank you so much for that bit about """MIDI packs""" and chord progression generators etc. -- not training wheels but crippling wheels.
That's a great way to put it! Glad you enjoyed this!
Excellent questions, and thank you for the answers! Practical stuff
Thank you for continuing this!
Absolutely, my pleasure!
You are totally correct. I've never asked myself "Do I need to do that?". I always do. I have an extreme passion about music but it is and will continue be a hobby. I'm an engineer and many times I went through that debate with myself. Am I wasting time not to be professional in music industry? 10 years was playing in a band and 20 years to date doing music on computer in my home studio without being involved a single time in the commercial world. I closed that debate that I'm happy doing what I'm doing regardless of being professional in the music industry. Keep learning, up to date with the VSTs/music software, keep producing music and share with my FB friends. Thank you for touching this point in your video.! God bless you.
thank you soo much for doing this miss dern
Thanks for watching!
Another great video! also a lot of fun. :) Thank you for being so kind to answer all the questions!!
Thanks for watching!
Always a pleasure to hear your perspective and helpful insights /Tips. Thank you for sharing! Looking forward to your next Q&A :)
Thanks for watching!
Love it! Thank you for another great video. It is so helpful to hear from a seasoned pro about all these topics!
Thanks for watching!
Spectacular! Loved your performance! Hilarious!!!and of course very concise and useful info!
Thank you!
Wow i have to say... I just found your channel today and watched the majority of your videos in a row. What a great channel. Its so cool to see how you handle stuff and i agree on many of your thoughts. Amazing! Can't wait for the next video!
Thanks! I'm so glad this is helpful!
you are right - she's brillant
"Just sit down and do the work, you lazy f*ck"
HEAR YE HEAR YE!!!
Perfect!
Love your various video opening scenes!
Thanks! Gets me out the door on occasion which is good!
Not only in this video one of my favorite eye makeup looks, the wine moment is TOPS for me and the editing is spot on. Also thank you for all the amazing answers as always!!
Hahaha, do I need to do a makeup video? People have already been asking for a coffee video so... :D And yeah... wine = liquor of truth!
You're hilarious, Anne! :) Thanks for this, Q & A!
Thanks for watching!
LOL, We want your midi pack!
Super helpful Anne-Kathrin! You sketch the culture behind the scenes and what to take care of in order to be prepared. As a hobbyist, very interesting!
Glad you like the content!
Young woman. Re: "MIDI packs." I agree with you 1000%. I see these ads and laugh. Of course, a person could buy them and leave their brain at the studio door. To me, using a MIDI pack would be tantamount to writing a script for a film with cut and past phrases from the newspaper. But I should say, some of the scripts I have seen appear to be that way. And the dialog too. I have experience in that arena. I am an actor as well as a composer...(SAG since 1979)...and I STILL cringe at some of the rubbish I was paid to say in certain productions...who knows? Maybe the writers...in those cases...were using "DIALOG packs for time and TV!"
Ha! I'm not so young anymore but thanks! :-D I'm sure there are some equivalents in other branches. It's cringeworthy every single time, especially the way these ads are worded...
@@AnneKathrinDernComposer Very deceptive ads indeed...I get a a lot from your YT presentations. And on completely different and irrelevant point: My Great Grandfather Otto Kahlenberg was from The Ruhr Valley area In Germany. He came here when he was a kid of 15 in the mid-19th century and settled in Wisconsin. He fought in the American Civil War and served with General Grant in several significant battles....
Those looking for good training in composition can do a lot worse than reading all of Walter Piston's books. In Spanish there's Joaquin Zamacois, too. Also do not miss Alan Belkin's book.
Ah yes, good addition! I think I read Piston's books on Harmony and Counterpoint. Oldies but goodies! I'll check out Alan Belkin's book as well. One can never learn too much!
Anne, a great watch again! It’s great to see your honest and genuine perspective, extremely refreshing. And +1 for thematic composer! I feel melodies, motifs and themes are getting more and more buried and lost nowadays..
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed this!
Thank you
My pleasure! :-)
Love your sense of humor. Are you mining those edit points for humor yourself or is someone else doing that? Either way, you're landing on some style there. Nice job and thanks for your videos.
Ha, thanks! It's all me at the moment. Who knows where this will go and how much wine will be involved :D
Great video! Love hearing you speak so eloquently on these topics, as always! For anyone that might be interested in good harmony and counterpoint books - Berklee's Harmony 1-4 method is incredible, also Tchaikovsky's harmony book is really helpful. In terms of Counterpoint - Gradus ad Parnassum by Fux is really great, and basically lays out the method of counterpoint studied in basic University Counterpoint classes... but might also be a good idea to just get a local harmony/solfege teacher to teach you private lessons in harmony and counterpoint - may be the best way to get the needed knowledge in these areas!
Ah yes, I read Tchaikovsky's book! Totally forgot about that - thanks for reminding me! :-) We used the book by Fux at Conservatory - personally not one of my favorites since it's very dry but it does convey all the necessary information throughout the different eras. And yes, a private tutor is always a good idea if one can afford it. There are also useful online tools for ear training.
@@AnneKathrinDernComposer Yes, true! And as you already mentioned, there are dozens of really incredible channels on youtube and the web, that are solely dedicated to those areas too! Thanks for posting your videos and keep up the amazing work! I'm loving the content and find it very useful!
Fantastic channel hosted by a true talent! Thank you! Greetings from Carmel-by-the-Sea!
Thank you so much! That’s so kind of you to say. I’ve always wanted to drive up to Carmel-by-the-sea - maybe I’ll do so in my next break. It looks gorgeous in all the pictures I’ve seen!
@@AnneKathrinDernComposer Carmel is a wonderful place to visit, especially during a pandemic 😷
BTW, any chance you will ever do a tutorial on creating you Cubase template? I’d love to hear your insights.
I am indeed currently scripting a little video series to go over my template. The pre-cursor to it were the hardware and library videos. Just wanna get these right so it takes a moment to get all the information organized. :-)
All great vocalists have a SIGNITURE in their voice. Tom Jones, Michael Jackson, Michael Buble,Billy Joel, Barbara Streisand, Barry White, Neil Diamond,Tony Bennett, Sherly Bassy, Elton John, Elvis, Dolly P. George Benson, James Ingram, Stevie Wonder Dion Warwick.The same Signature also is found in Pop Groups. Beatles, Beach Boys,The Monkees, Chicargo, Earth Wind & Fire, Toto. That,s what makes them stand out from the croud. That's what people are really buying. Within the first 3 seconds of hearing their voice you know who they are.
11:30 THANK YOU!
One of the few positive impacts of the pandemic - traffic has been less of a nightmare in LA.
Such a great video! Love your whole Q&A series, I feel like I learn a lot from it. Also, I want to ask a stupid question: What is "library music"? I've seen this term pop up in some of your videos and am always perplexed by what it means. Thanks in advance to anyone who chimes in, I appreciate it!
Thanks for watching! Glad you like the content. Library Music is essentially stock music that is written without any picture. It then gets fed into a music library from which filmmakers can license tracks. This is usually done for movie trailers and especially for reality TV, even some documentaries.
@@AnneKathrinDernComposer Ahhh, I understand it now. Thank you so much for your reply! And keep up the good work :)
Very insightful video! I agree with what you said 'There are no shortcuts'. But just wish i could carry the orchestral music i hear in my mind, that sounds good, and just paste it to my laptop. Lol. It would be so good 😭. Lol. Keep up the great work! :)
Ha, don't get me wrong, I too wish things from my head would beam themselves into my computer. Alas, no shortcuts... Thanks for watching!
@@AnneKathrinDernComposer ok :). Your welcome! :)
I loved your ‘wine moment’ in this one 🍷🎶✨ ... I’m still on MacOS ‘Mojave’ (because I love the plug-in’s I own), but wonder every day if today is the day 1 of 10 things just won’t speak to each other any more... 🍎✨
Haha, some topics just require wine. And yeah, I got really tired of dealing with the whole MacOS nonsense, wondering the same thing as you: At what point will I have to update and then how much of my software isn't going to work for a while (or ever again).
Hello, thanks for all these video, I find them really insightful and extremely helpful to understand the business side of this career as well. Very happy I found you! :) Plus you seem a very caring and gentle person!
I have just a quick question (I actually would have thousand more but yeah XD ) did it happen in your career that for budget problems you could't record a live orchestra? in which case did the vst did their job well enough for a final product?
I'm sure most of us (including me) are in that position of indie films that have almost no budget so would be awesome to have an opinion from an already affirmed professional. Thanks! :)
I'm not sure "caring and gentle" would be the words I'd use for myself, but thank you! :-) And yes, I've had it many times that there was no recording budget. I usually make it a point to at least recording a soloist or two then. But overall, my mockups do sound 90% like the final product and if it's mixed properly and then played under SFX and dialogue, the audience wouldn't necessarily notice. Other times I also just get a chamber sized orchestra in which case we layer in a lot of the mockup sound as well to fill it up. It's certainly not uncommon, especially at the beginning of one's career.
I can't believe that You would ever get cheeky with a GPS , Anne! ;)
Yeah I regret it EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. ;-)
“Do the work you lazy fuck..” Classic! 😂 My own take: LEARN! It’s better to have it and not need it then to need it and not have it.
Indeed! :-)
@@AnneKathrinDernComposer btw: I just discovered your channel. I think you are amazing!
What are punch and streamers?
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@@BekircanSengezer still didnt get it lol
9:33 XD I died a little inside alongside you.
Hahaha yeah... that one was... interesting. Thankfully there's wine.
I'm not sure if this has been asked before - For composers who work exclusively in a DAW using MIDI data and sample libraries, what's the experience and process of having music recorded with a real orchestra? Is it common that DAW composition (MIDI orchestration) is transcribed into sheet music by a dedicated orchestrator, or is it considered necessary that a composer does this on their own? I know this is a broad topic and there's probably no short answer. As always, thank you so much for sharing your experiences with us!
The short answer is that yes, the MIDI is transcribed by a dedicated orchestrator. The long answer I'll have to put into a video since it's indeed a broad topic. Maybe I can get my orchestrator on here to make it more of a discussion.
@@AnneKathrinDernComposer That would be great! I really appreciate you taking the time to reply to my comment or even consider talking about it in more detail! :)
"But the music should be louder" 😂
In previous video u said that u dont use same daw session for whole movie ..how u split scenes according to spotting notes and write music in different daw session ..u have different start,end time codes..do u actually slice the picture given by director and import those videos to cubase..hw these things happen inside the daw..thanks..
Is it common for the composer to be the music editor?
Thanks for another great video. I'm glad I found your channel.
I would like to ask you a few questions to answers.
I understand correctly that you are talking about fast-paced courses promising blue from the sky. Or are you also talking about courses like those from ThinkspaceEducation? (Learn Music Theory, Cinematic Orchestration, etc.) I understand that this is not a formal education, but it is definitely a form of education. It won't make you an instant professional, but I think there's a lot of good information out there and it's a good start.
About midi sharing. Didn't he ask about it because of studying?
Of course, that doesn't mean you should share something, especially when the question sounded a little awkward and there's still the possibility that it's just a lazy fuck. :D
I just don't see anything wrong with trying to learn things that work from others. After all, much of counterpoint education is based on an analysis of the works of classical masters. Is it wrong to want to learn from you? :)
Thanks
PS:
I apologize for the rough English. It's not my native language and I helped myself a bit with a translator. :)
Glad you found this helpful - and your English is wonderful!
Since I haven't taken all online courses I can't comment on them of course. What I'm saying is: Be careful with any courses that overpromise the results like it's a "get rich quick" scheme or "lose weight fast" or "learn to play this instrument like a pro in 6 weeks". I'm seeing this increasingly now during Covid times and it's worrying me that a certain amount these courses are a cash grab. Anything that promises shortcuts where really only long-term dedication and practice would do, I'd examine carefully. I'd definitely vet the course more closely, e.g. what have the instructors worked on, where does their experience come from, do they have guest lecturers with a practical background etc.? There are great online courses out there but there's also a flood of very misleading courses.
The MIDI question wasn't about MIDI sharing. I have sent out sheet music and MIDI to select pieces of mine when people have reached out asking to study those (though I would always suggest rather studying the greats of the past instead of me). This question (which I shortened a bit for the video) was specifically about MIDI packs - pre-made loops, chord progressions etc. for people to use so they don't have to do the work of creating their own stuff or doing some analysis of their own. It's a shortcut tool designed for those who want to cut corners and "get there fast" and I don't support that. I keep seeing ads even leaning into that going "Buy these 150 pre-made MIDI chord progressions and instantly sound like a pro - it'll save you from doing the work of learning music theory or sight-reading, no need for tedious practice". So the thing I'm opposed to is not learning from the masters but rather trying to get there fast without making the effort to learn anything.
Would you ever consider composing Music for Doctor Who?
I think the real question is if the show runners of Doctor Who would ever consider me in the first place. It’s not like I get to choose much what I work on.
@@AnneKathrinDernComposer I think they should seek you out now Sony is involved, the music you did for Help I Shrunk my Friends really had an atmospheric feel to it.
Eyery master in whatever skill will tell you: it will take at least 10 years of full dedication to achieve an average professional level, even 20 or more to become a real outstanding master - may it be carpenting or martial art or whatever - composing and arranging is not an exeption. There is no weekend video course "invincible in 48 hours" - there's no magic and no secret mysteries - just work, experience and dedication and passion for what you do... - all these guys trying to sell you their Plugins, MIDI packs etc etc just serve their own wallets...
Do the work!!!! 🤯 It’s not (!) your music if you use a midi pack. It’s just not. 🤬 “Learn to draw by using these pre-drawn drawings...” ???????? No. Even the great collage artists were/are deeply knowledgeable about art - both the practical and theoretical/historical aspects.
Indeed - it's fine for a hobbyist but beyond that it's just troublesome in so many ways to use premade stuff, especially if it is to avoid educating oneself and putting in the work.
Same thing with people calling themselves engineers in music...what a joke. Some of the questions you were asked...sound like Gen Z and Alpha asked them.