RUPES LHR12E Duetto One-Step Polishing Kit by ESOTERIC!
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- The best DIY polishing kit starts with the RUPES LHR12E Duetto machine and combines the best pads and polishes...
1x Rupes LHR12 Duetto Random Orbital Polisher
5x Rupes Yellow Polishing pads OR 5x Rupes White Finishing pads
1x of the following polishes:
Sonax Perfect Finish (250ml or 1000ml)
Sonax EX 04-06 (250 or 1000ml)
Jescar Micro-Finishing Polish (8oz or 1Q)
5x ESOTERIC Red Towels
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Todd and Esoteric crew, thank you for this video! I've recently been contemplating which machine I will be purchasing next. This video couldn't have come at a better time for me to help in the buying process. I love the body of the LHR75E Mini over the full-size RUPES machines. I am confident in saying that the Duetto will be my next machine. This is another great video my friends! Thank you again.
Thanks for the great video !!!!!
Bookmarked the link, thank you very much!
Great idea!
Excellent video one again, Todd. So many ppl new to paint correction severely underestimate how effective a proper one step can be
Thank you and agreed! For most detailers and DIYers, a good one-step is all that is needed most of the time. And I focus on the word "good". Many people think they have to do a multi-step simply because they aren't using the right combination of tools, pads, polishes, and techniques to realize just how effective they can be.
The Duetto is a beast DA machine !
Agreed.
Hallo Sir... Super fine line of work 👍
This looks like a great kit to get after cutting with the maxshine m1000
Love my duetto but lately have been using my flex pe14 and lhr15mk2 a ton.
Hey Todd. Love your vids. Watching from Australia. I want to purchase Sonax Perfect Finish but the shipping cost are insane. We dont have that in Oz. Keep up the awesome videos. Cheers
Todd great vid, I love your products, I'm starting a detail shop in April of 2019, I definitely would like to pick your brain on products and business, I'm very excited to start my own shop it's been my dream, I know it'll be difficult at times but I'm definitely motivated ,thanks todd
Thanks for the feedback. There's no better way to get information on business, products, etc than my Elite Detailer Academy! Our 2019 calendar of classes has been posted up on our website. We also now offer financing on classes and equipment through PayPal Credit! www.esotericcarcare.com/elite-detailer-academy-2-day-training-course/
Just came across this video, even though it’s a few years old. I have just come around to the world of paint care vs just washing the car in the last six months, and many of the quality videos put out by Esoteric have shown me the folly of my ways lol. But the tremendous amount of knowledge I’ve gained from them has been INVALUABLE, and I thank Todd and the Esoteric team for that. I have gained the confidence to attempt my first paint correction in process for my first ceramic coating attempt, and this package seems perfectly suited to my needs as a diy guy who’d only have 1-2 polishes every couple years on my personal vehicles. I am curious, though, as to what sort of time commitment and pad count I’d be looking at to polish a 3/4 ton truck and Tahoe suv. The Tahoe has been hand washed weekly, so just a jeweling should suffice for it, but the truck has severe tunnel wash marring and swirls(from the “lack of knowledge” time), so I’m thinking a good compounding and polish is a must for it. Just looking for some insight to tailor my shopping to. Thanks again for all you do!
Glad that the channel is beneficial for you. First of all, let me get you past the term "jeweling", because it isn't a thing. For your one-step, you could expect about 6 hours of polishing, and probably 6-8 pads. For the multi-stage, plan on 12-15 hours, and at least twice as many pads. I hope this helps.
@@Esotericdetail Yes, very helpful. Thank you!
After Using perfect finish & yellow pads, will I get a higher gloss and shine doing the process over again with the white pads? Thanks!
I spent so much money trying to "figure it out", these kits really would've saved a lot of hassle. Lol
That's exactly why we put these together! :)
Hi Todd, I have seen a backing plate that is made by TAC system that spaces the machine in regards to the washer mod. What are your professional thoughts on this
yo todd....great video! As a beginner with classic original cars that have only single-stage paint jobs, do I follow the same steps shown in the video that have 2-stage paint jobs?
I follow the exact same process on single stage paints. The only difference is that I'm paying much more attention to thickness measurements, and looking the car over extremely carefully to look for signs of thin edges.
Hi Todd - I’m from over the pond in the UK. Would you ship to the UK ? Great watching your work and I’m an Enthusiast myself but I have to say your videos are very informative and practically with the detail. 👌🏼
Thanks Max, however we recommend that you visit our friends at Ultimate Finish there in the UK for your product needs!
Hi Todd, I forgot to ask in the previous message. Do you recommend the washer mod to the Duetto in your professional opinion. Like every detailer, I want the most performance out of the polisher as possible. Thank you, Howard.
Thank you for simplifying the process and all the great information. It’s extremely helpful and encouraging for a DIY’er like me. Will this also work on a fifth-wheel RV trailer with a heavily oxidized fiberglass gel coat from the Florida sun? Also, I’m wondering how much product I’d need for the trailer which is 42 ft long and 13 ft high. Thanks for your help.
Glad that it's helpful for you. For what you're trying to accomplish, this would definitely work / help, but it may take a bit longer. If you have plenty of time, then you could use this with the yellow polishing pads, and the 1000ml sized polish. If you want quicker and greater results, you might want to look at the Rupes LHR15 kits. www.esotericcarcare.com/rupes-lhr15-mark-iii-one-step-polishing-kit/
@@Esotericdetail Thanks for your quick response and great advice Todd! The larger kit would definitely make sense on a project of this size.
Nice video and info. Seems like this machine has been out for a few years. Does Rupes have an update planed in the near future?
Not that we are aware of on this particular machine. The Duetto is a fantastic tool, and I was just using one yesterday to polish a new Ferrari!
Thank you for your videos. What about the Rupes blue and yellow compounds? Between more videos I watch more confused I am :/
For compound, check out our Jescar Correction Compound video, and for your polish, check out our Sonax Perfect Finish video. There's literally nothing else you need!
Todd, thanks for the great video. I have been considering this model for quite some time now, but have held off on the purchase. I am in need of the correct machine for both boat finishes (Gel Cote polishing and minor correction and waxing/finishing), along with auto finish minor correction and waxing/finishing. I have actually contacted Rupes directly in regard to marine uses, but could not get answers to my questions about the high RPM of this machine in relation to their newer 15 models that are a bit lower; for the application of waxes etc. Please review if this is appropriate for both, and what I should be using for pads, one step solutions or other, and wax/coatings for the gel Cote. I'm looking for a quality machine that gets into smaller areas, that can handle the entire job. Thanks much.
You're welcome. If you're doing large boats, you might be interested in something like the Rupes LHR21 MKII that can utilize the larger 6.5" pads. You can also switch that machine over to the smaller 5.5" pads/backing plate when doing paint correction on cars. But if you're not working on huge surface areas, then the Duetto would be great. Speed differentials from one machine to the next are a non-issue as you simply adjust it to the best speed for the job. For instance, you would probably operate in the 4.5 speed range for polishing, and just 2-3 for wax or sealant application. The video should tell you what you may want for polishing (Perfect Finish and Yellow Pads), then you'd probably go for the white pads for wax or sealant application. I hope this helps!
Ok thanks Todd. I am detailing smaller boats with colored Gel Cote. I was especially concerned if the Sonax perfect finished or the Jescar Micro finish are peferctly compatible with the Gel Cote. I'll be in touch for my order. Thanks again.
PF would be better suited for Gel Coat as it has more cut to it. Gel Coats are typically pretty hard.
Great video Todd! Could I use the Rupes yellow pad for the one step as you said and then finish with a white pad combined with let’s say Rupes pure polish? Would that make a better result?
Then it would be a 2-step, not a 1-step. If you're using a good polish for your 1-step, you should have no reason to follow it with anything else. Just because a polish might be listed as "finer" than what you use for your 1-step, it doesn't mean that it's going to create a better finish.
@@Esotericdetail thanks for replying, I would love to drive down from Toronto to complete one of your detailing courses.
Hello Todd, great video! Thank you so much for everything that you're doing for people like me that are very new to the detailing industry. I was wondering where would one go after a one step polish? Would you then go to paint sealant and wax or a coating? Also, what would need to be done prior to the one step polish; would it just be a proper wash and decontamination? Thank you again for everything!
Cheers, Joe
Thanks, Joe. After a one-step you would add protection of your choice...wax, sealant, or coating. As with any machine polishing, you would wash and decontaminate through mechanical and / or chemical methods.
Great video
What Polish/compound do you use with the green rupes pad?
I wouldn't...that's not a one-step pad. You simply cannot get a good enough finish with that one.
ESOTERIC - Fine Auto Finishing
I meant a 2 step correction
I finish with the yellow pad with sonax pf.
If you need to go with something heavier than a yellow pad and a polish, then you're compounding stage should be with a pad like the Megs MF Cutting Disc or the new Rupes wool pads. They'll provide better cut and in most cases a better finish than you'll get with the green pads.
I was just wondering, what would be a good amount of pads to have (roughly) for a paint correction on a sedan as a DIY type of detail without cleaning them in between?
A normal car could easily use 6-8 larger pads, and 4-6 smaller pads...
Where is the Maguire red foam pad you were promoting on the last podcast 🤔
I've never promoted a soft red Meguiar's foam pad....not sure what you're referring to.
Is the Jescar Ultra Finishing Polish the same product as the Menzerna Super Finishing Plus 3800?
Similar, but no.
Hi!
For smaller car parts , can I change the plate to a 3” in this LHR12E? To do an one step correction
No, you cannot put a 3" plate on the 12E. You need to have a 75E, 3" machine.
When polishing a front quarter on a new ram , how long should I spend doing it using this identical machine and also using the sonax perfect finish polish
You should work in small sections...roughly 18"x18". 3 drops of polish, medium pressure. Overlap passes 50% with 2 sets up and down, and 2 sets left and right.
ESOTERIC thank you for replying
Does your kit for the rupes lhr12e include the rupes detail bag
No it does not. This link will take you directly to the product page with all of the details. www.esotericcarcare.com/rupes-lhr12-duetto-one-step-polishing-kit/
I have never done a paint correction nor buffed my car (had crappy cars up until recently and just used wet wax). How easy would it be for me to do a one step correction and glass or ceramic coat on my own? How much margin is there for novice error? I don’t want to make my paint look worse.
Start with the basics, depending on budget you can either enter into the high end like these products, or lower end and get 90% of the results with a little more effort. I highly recommend visiting a forum or reddit r/autodetailing for information.
I'd be really hesitant about sending a new person to a forum of all places. It's nearly impossible to weed through the information, as much of it is coming from those who don't really know themselves. I'd also argue the 90% rule there. You can have the right tools, pads, and techniques, but throw a "so-so" polish in there, and you can easily see a 30%+ reduction in results. Now mix in a hodge-podge of tools, pads, products, and techniques, and the difference becomes even greater.
Yes you can, however I'd definitely recommend spending some time on our channel learning about paint polishing and coating application. We have a playlist for both of them, and there is a tremendous amount of valuable information. If you follow the steps as outlined, there is a small margin of error. Please let us know if we can answer any questions for you.
The ergonomics of the Duetto are great. However, the machine lacks torque on curves. Stalls very easy. On a side not, Optimum Hyper Polish finishes just as good or better than Perfect Finish. Also, no dust with hyper polish.
"Machine stalling" is a technique issue, and not a machine issue. This holds the same with the bigger Bigfoot machines. Can I assume that your comment on the performance of the other polish is strictly limited to the eye test? Also, it doesn't nearly have the cut range of Perfect Finish. Only a DOI machine can evaluate and determine the cut / finish range of polishes or pads.
I have the Maguires DA polisher. is this rupes worth the upgrade or not?
With the Rupes, you gain greater orbit diameter, which equates to additional polishing power. Additionally, you get a much smoother machine.
Can you use one pad and blow it with air as you go or need a few pads?
For a one-step, you'd want 5 or 6 pads throughout the job to get the best results.
Thanks
Hi Todd, I have a Festool ETS 150 EQ 6 inch Random orbit sander, 5 mm sanding stroke, Speed 4,000 - 10,500 rpm. can this be used to polish the car? although it is mainly intended for grinding
Festools thought it was not suitable for polishing due to high rpm.
is it greater risk of faster heat damage the car paint with ETS 150/5. than regular polishing machine since this lowest speed is 4000 rpm?
will it work. better than hand polishing?
I was mainly just going to remove some wash scratches before Turtle Wax Hybrid Ceramic Spray Coating. or gyeon mohs
The only way to know for sure is to try it on a small section to see. 6" is not optimal for sure, particularly with only a 5mm orbit. But...you won't know until you try!
@@Esotericdetail Ok thanks for the reply. But would you stay at the lowest speed 4000 rpm all the time. And would you polish in the usual way two sets passes up down right left?
What's the best set up for someone that never polishes but wants to step into learning how to??? I'm getting a g9 griots polisher but wanna know what will be the best product for polish n cutting at once basically one step???? What pad n polish??? White or yellow????
Yellow Pad, Sonax Perfect Finish. Done! Practice first on a car that you're not too worried about, and focus first on technique as opposed to correction levels.
@@Esotericdetail ok thx I got a car I'm not to worried about to learn. So I hope it goes good
Hi Todd, I’m considering on Getting a Rupes Duetto polisher. Does this machine require the washer mod ? Thank you, Howard
None of them "require" it. You do get a very slight increase in rotation, but it doesn't make some kind of magical difference like some may want you to believe. And also, it's just a standard M8 washer...there is nothing special required.
ESOTERIC , Hello Todd, I was actually going to ask about the size of the washer as I forgot to ask earlier. Some say 5/16 and you have to grind it to make 2 flat spots. M8 is what I will get.
Todd, is this kit you would recommend to someone (DYI) who has never picked up a DA and polished a vehicle?
You really can't get much easier than this one, and it has about everything you need to get you started. Then should you choose to step up your game, and get into multi-stage polishing after you become better at it, all you need to do is add compounding pads and compound.
@@Esotericdetail Thank you Todd
Can the duette be used in a semi professional setting? I do detailing on the side and am not ready to drop 700 on a pro machine. Im thinking 40 to 50 a year on a constant basis and what is their warranty like?
Absolutely! It is a very capable, and well-built machine. All of the electric Rupes machines carry a 1 year warranty, and they have a service center right here in the USA. And about the professional-grade Rupes machines, they start at about $430.
Hi Todd,
I have been watching a lot of detailing channels in the hopes of starting my own detailing company in Miami. I also watch Ammo and Chemical Guys and I was curious on your thoughts of the Torq 10FX? I was also curious on what you thought of Rupes compound polish line compared to the polishes you showed in your video? It seams that Rupes DA machines are most preferred by professionals for paint correction but, everyone uses different compound brands and swears by them. I thought I would be able to stick with one brand for detailing products but, I guess each company shines in certain areas of what they produce. I appreciate any feedback you may have or even a new video on a kit that comes with everything you need to start a detailing business with the best professional products on the market. From equipment to chemicals. You might even be able to stage your kits from weekend warriors to a full professional detail shop.
Thanks!
Rupes is the king of the hill when it comes to machines. When it comes to chemicals or polishes, there's no one brand that is the perfect solution. What makes us different is that we can use what we want, and we're not stuck with just one brand. We select what performs the best through testing. So when we recommend the combinations, it's based off of what we have determined to provide the best results. If we are not talking about "product x", then you know it didn't make the cut. The kits that we offer are designed with both the professional detailer and the DIY person in mind. As a part of our Elite Detailer Academy, we offer up a curated list of products to our students to help give them guidance on what to use in all areas of detailing...
ESOTERIC - Fine Auto Finishing. I appreciate the feedback, thanks!
Hi Todd,
Been watching your videos for a bit. Wish I found you sooner. My questions, have full line lake country hdo pads 2 blue 6 orange 6 black 3 red. My machine is 15mm. My compounds are Jescar Correcting, Jescar medium and finish. Sonax 04/06, Sholl s20 black. Wax/sealant Jescar powerlock and 845. Will be working on soft white Honda 2018. I listened and bought into to much. What would be my best pairings? Thank you for your help and expertise.
It's all about the test section to determine what will work best, and we have a video on that. Agreed that you have too many products as it just adds to confusion and inconsistencies. Unless it has deep scratches (which you won't get out with foam pads), you should be able to do just one pad/polish combo, then one sealant. There's simply NO need to apply 2 different sealants. I'd recommend starting with some testing of a pad with the Sonax 04-06 to see if you get satisfactory results and go from there.
Todd, is Perfect Finish and Yellow pads enough to get medium-heavy swirls out? I’m not after perfection but my white truck that was a bit neglected by previous owner could use a good refresh and I don’t want to spend weeks on it.
Yes, it is more than capable. But it also comes down to how hard the paint it, and how good your technique is. This combo is cable of a high level of correction and finish. But if they are heavier scratches, you may not have a huge impact on them.
ESOTERIC - Fine Auto Finishing No scratches. Just swirls and halos from body shop repair on a few panels.
Would the micro finish polish and white pad be the least aggressive one step correction ???
Most likely, yes.