1967 Wild TV Show With CounterCulture Hippies Mouthing Off. Abbie Hoffman & Others
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- This is a very strange scene. It is a segment from David Silver’s 1967 experimental National television program that pushed the boundaries of TV. In this scene David engages with hippies like Abbie Hoffman mixed with political and artistic radicals.
I admire David Silver for diving in and trying to understand what was going on. To many in the 60s generation this stuff was exciting and fun. It separated them from their parents generation who were seen as square and uptight. What you see in this clip is an expression of what was called The Generation Gap.
Attendees included Abbie Hoffman, an American social and political activist, Jim Fouret, an active member of the San Francisco Mime Troupe and Linn House, a founder and editor of Innerspace Magazine.
Abbie Hoffman gained national attention for his involvement in several high-profile events and protests including The Youth International Party (Yippies), an anti-establishment and anti-war political party that combined activism with theatricality and humor. Hoffman had a charismatic personality, was dedicated to political activism, and had a unique ability to blend humor, theatrics, and social critiques.
Jim Fouratt was a co-founder of the San Francisco Mime Troupe, a political theater group. The troupe was known for their satirical and provocative performances which often tackled social and political issues.
Linn House was the editor of Inner Space Magazine, a relatively obscure counterculture publication that was part of the underground press movement that emerged during the 1960s. These underground publications championed counterculture values such as anti-war sentiment, civil rights, drug culture, alternative lifestyles and artistic expression.
In 1967 there were distinct differences between these men, some hippies who were not politically involved & others political radicals. They appeared similar in terms of clothing & hairstyles but they were not.
Hippies focused on inner growth, self-discovery and spiritual exploration. They believed that individual transformation would eventually lead to a collective shift in societal values.
Hippies created alternative ways of living that challenged mainstream norms such as communal living, vegetarianism and unconventional relationships.
Hippies embraced a philosophy of peace, love, and harmony, promoting nonviolence and understanding as key principles for a better society.
Political radicals:
Political radicals engaged in direct political action, organizing protests, demonstrations and other actions aimed at challenging the status quo.
Political radicals had a more comprehensive critique of the American political, economic, and social systems focusing on issues like capitalism, imperialism, racism and sexism.
Political radicals were involved in organized political movements such as the anti-war movement, civil rights movement, women's liberation movement or environmental movement.
Political radicals advocated for more radical, structural changes in American society through revolutionary means. They believed that incremental reforms were insufficient and that a dramatic transformation was necessary to achieve lasting change.
One thing clearly evident in this clip is what was called The Generation Gap that was characterized by significant differences in values, beliefs, and attitudes between the older and younger generations. This rift can be attributed to various social, political, and cultural factors. Some key factors contributing to the generation gap during this time included:
The younger generation, the 60s generation was likely to question authority and reject traditional norms. This contrasted with the older generation, who generally respected and adhered to established institutions and hierarchical structures.
Young Americans were particularly active in the civil rights movement, anti-war protests, and the push for women's rights, which created tension with the older generation that tended to be more conservative on these issues.
The advent of the birth control pill and changing societal attitudes towards sex led to greater acceptance of premarital sex and alternative family structures among the younger generation.
The use of recreational drugs such as marijuana and psychedelics like lSD became widespread among young people driven in part by the counterculture movement.
The rise of rock & roll as well as the adoption of unconventional clothing styles alienated the older generation who found it difficult to identify with these new cultural expressions.
The younger generation placed a great emphasis on personal freedom, self-discovery and individuality that contrasted with the older generation's focus on conformity, duty and traditional family and societal roles.
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Thank you
David Hoffman
Here is another segment from that program - czcams.com/video/3DESqGn70gs/video.html
Thank you so much David.🖤🇨🇦
David are you related to Abbie?
Black Listed News: The Secret Histories of Chicago '68 to 1984 by the Yippee Book Collective is real familiar. My husband wrote an article in that and we worked on one demonstration with Andrew Hoffman.
Another great one. Sometimes I think I was dreaming back then..
I love seeing things from the 60's. Just, wow!! Thank you David ❤
I love how wonderfully your life’s work has transitioned to the modern age and how it is all taking on a new life while contributing to our understanding of social history, pop culture, and everything else you bring to our attention.
Nicely put.
Frank Sinatra carried a lot of weight in the entertainment industry so that’s why David Silver got the boot, no pun intended
Yes Abbie Hoffman is good to see in the video. Thanks for sharing David Hoffman film maker 🎥🎞️ have a nice weekend.✌️
I was born in '87. My upbringing was Christian conservative, not oppressively so but my mom had little positive to say about the 60's and my brothers and cousins had no interest. I remember getting a digital encyclopedia in '95 on a CD, I geeked out on it. I remember stumbling on the "acid rock" page. I had no idea what acid was but after hearing Jimi Hendrix and the Doors I was mesmerized. In the 90's and 2000's I was a typical kid of that time but after finishing high school a friend turned me on to pot for the first time. We smoked a joint and I was in love. I bought a bag of grass from him and went home, popped on some headphones, and lit one up to Hendrix, Pink Floyd, the Beatles, and the Doors. Somehow the 60's found me 50 years later. That got me into meditation, Buddhism, and mushrooms. The 60's is alive and well and it calls to whoever will listen. I remember reading all about drugs from hippies online, which ones are cool, which ones to be careful with, and which ones to stay the hell away from. Man that knowledge saved my ass in college and I always said no to opioids, coke, and meth but I smoked plenty of weed and whenever mushrooms came through I always picked some up for a good ego death reset.
Thanks for sharing this. Hippies were on to something truly radical and I'm forever grateful to have tuned in. I love seeing footage like this and wish I could have been there to burn one with them.✌️
I lived through the sixties. My experience was a lot of confused people that thought they knew better than everyone else. Peace, love and free sex was and still is a scam. These hippies are the ones in suits today that are destroying our country today. And hey, I was a hippie until I realized what a scam it really was. Then I woke up, but absolutely not "woke" as in today's usage.
This is some seriously rare TV.
Can't say i saw a single hippie in this. Just kids being angry and obstinate, same as i was and they still are. A real hippie doesn't wear the uniform of one and genuinely has no concept of what that word means. They are simply people who choose peace over chaos, space over clutter, and love over combat. Hair length is totally optional. Much love.
David, I am *so* glad you are putting these up! I actually remember seeing your documentary on PBS "Making Sense of the Sixties" when it was shown on WGBH in Boston in the 90s. It was terrific, compelling, & as I recall, very moving to watch. Gen Xers like me really felt like we missed out, but Boomers in the 80s & 90s were pretty smug about how much better they were than we were, & they didn't want to 'waste time' with us, since we were so 'square.' I also think some of them felt badly about having had to 'sell out' to have a grown-up life. Or were sheepish & tight-lipped about their youthful antics. Others really missed the old days & were depressed about the present. And some didn't remember a whole lot because of the drugs. Sadly, most of them really didn't pass down to most of us much wisdom from their experience. And very few of them stayed hippies. One I met in Tallahassee in the 2000s really lived that life, growing vegetables & herbs in her huge co-op garden. She ran a meditation group, still had long silver-white hair & loved teaching others. I think you were the first serious documentarian to take on this subject. It took the Hollywood 2 decades to try to come to terms with the 60s, there were such huge divisions everyone was afraid to touch. I am *so* delighted with these clips! I think you have given the Millenials & Zs a profound gift in putting these up here for everyone to see & respond to. Many blessings to you! Keep 'em coming!
If you are sensitive enough to pick up the 'vibes' you can feel the energy surrounding people who are not hippies by head but hippies by heart. Gentle people with patience and interesting live experience, I mean. Whereas the counter culture seemed to rely on drugs at the time, I think people always have been able to find themselves without stuff like that, just by living healthy, giving themselves long enough time to think about love and life and try not to worship status and money. Living a simple live without too much hassle became valuable through the years. (Be true to yourself and face your demons; deal with them.) If you can live it, your heart and intuition will show you the way. I guess that was what true hippy was all about. And yes: a lot of boomers are still a bit smug about how great they were.
Your love of history and your patriotism is absolutely inspiring, thank you David I hope you are having a great weekend 💙🇨🇦
Growing up in the 80/90s I had a lot of respect for the hippies. They were always portrayed in a harmless or positive light in film. To see real footage of them is very disappointing.
One clip shouldn't change your opinion of us LoL
Agree 💯
I am child of 80/90. I was from Europe, behind Iron Curtain those days.
I remember hippies as positive.
But... I saw a movie Easy Rider last days. After looking, My impression was that hippies was not so much positive as I thought.
I found it "between The lines" at this movie. Funny experience :)
Abbie Hoffman was more of a self-promoter than a genuine counter-cultural figure. He actually shook down the Woodstock organizers for a piece of the action in order for the festival to get his "blessing" - and then interrupted The Who's set at Woodstock to rant about John Sinclair (Pete Townshend hit him on the head with his guitar and shut him up).
There were a lot of different people who got lumped into the description “hippie”. These guys were “diggers”, they were antiestablishment and wholly irreverent, but they also did some good things that were needed at the time.🖤🇨🇦
Thank you, David for all these years. ❤
We REACH! 🖖 This reminds me of that Star Trek episode with the hippies!
"What do you do? I make love."
"God is the absence of garbage. "
"I love you" has been commercialized by John Wayne.
Love it!
I was a Hippie and still am as much as I can be. These are not like the Hippies I knew and know. I did my own thing and still do and I'm 71. My opinions were always my own and still are. I still stand by that always will.
That was a great example of how a lot of people are idiots in their 20's... Some things just never change! I know now I didn't know as much then (in my 20's) as I thought I did.
Many people seem to hit their "ah ha" moment in their mid 20s or so. That's when they make a sort of transition from the teen-person they were into a more mature-thinking adult. That's how it was for me and for others that I've known. A lot of these people here are probably in their early 20s.
Well, in my early 20s, I was certain that corporate greed was going to wreck personal opportunities and take the country toward fascism. That was the late 1970s and early ‘80s.
Not trying to boast here, but not all beliefs in one’s 20s turn out to be foolishness.
I also avoided drugs and alcohol then, so maybe sobriety plus radicalism is a better combination than Abbie’s mix
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Yeah, some you get right, and some you get wrong...
Like once you experience a few "disasters", the word has a different meaning than it did before. It's all relative.😁
I love these speaking freely type television shows. I don't know a lot about David Silver will search more on David Silver I am familiar with Abbie Hoffman by his reputation as a political and social activist who co-founded the Youth International Party "Yippies" Frank Sinatra had such clout I would not be surprised if he had something to do with getting David Silver kick off the air. I do recall that back in the early days of the longhair movement of the 1960's that it's only a fad it won't last long. Keep up the excellent description write up David Hoffman. 😊
These guys talk with slang ive barely heard....just like two generations ahead of me.
My old professor John "Tito" Gerasi always thought Howard Zinn was politically too soft. Kind of how today's Anarchists view Democratic Socialists. But he still made us read his books.
Thanks for sharing. You're a North American compendium of treasure.
Thanks for the memories & the smiles, David. ( and of course, all of the work you put into these :)
Thank you so much.
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Ah yes, when homophobia and quoting black folk with an invective from a white male privileged perspective was still openly groovy and thought of as progressive. I remember looking up to this kind of bombast, and letting it kind of form the scaffold of my identity. Thank goodness I eschewed that. Sad about Silver getting yanked for insulting Nancy, even if the comment was strangely rude. What I like about these tidbits is that they do remind me that the past was never greater than the present, just differently the same, and a stop on the way toward an evolution of a better human. I just hope we attain that before killing everything, and ourselves.
Those guys were always so random whenever a camera was pointed at them. They actually had some good ideas, and did some amazing street theatre as well as some good things, they just didn’t choose to be categorized.🖤🇨🇦
You're just effin' epic, my friend. Big cheers and best, all the way from south Brazil.
Thanks Mr Hoffman for sharing!! More great footage.
I swear your channel is better than any museum I've ever entered.
Thank you as always for these great (and rare) videos. Reminds me just how much and how long America has been in the business of creating moral panics.
As a child, I was afraid of the protests. Mom used to cover my eyes when I passed thru the room. "free" everything wont work. It will not work.
RIGHT ON ! POWER To The PEOPLE! ✊️😍
I wish i could live this free of worry and stress but unfortunately its in my dna to panic about absolutely every single possible situation in life
Thank you for this slice of life!
Use like hippies until I found out their political views. Use to have long hair not to be some poser like someone else. I. Had long hair because I don't get my hair cut...that simple. I either let it go or I buzz it and those 2 styles I do myself and are natural.
@Aziz Azif I like to say "civil conversation with opposing sides can only make us more well rounded.
People can believe whatever they want, but when they try or appoint someone else to force their will on others is where things go wrong and injust.
FREEDOM OF CHOICE!
Treat people with common decency living under natural law.
Natural law is based on moral principles and objective truth.
Man's laws are based on control.
Ok, I'll admit it, I'm stoned.
Me too.
Obviously, the world became a real paradise after these people!
I'm not sure if this is relevant to the video, but I was born in the 90's and always looked at the 60's as when 'America broke free', and always looked at the hippie movement as one of the most fascinating / cool movements in America's history
I just like a lot of the music and movies that came out that era. (Early 90s born here)
Greetings from Manchester England here at the occasionally interesting Justmadeit2 channel
That was great. People kind of unhinged, but enjoying poking at the dominant culture. I wasn't to fond of the two guys saying "faggot". But your analysis (Nancy Sinatra and Howard Zinn) very good. I wish I had known about Howard Zinn as a younger man. I just read his Peoples History of the United States. Very eye-opening and threatening to the mainstream. Thanks for this clip, David. p.s. I don't think any of these are Abbie Hoffman.
I think that’s Hoffman in the hat.
@@andjulia9292 My first introduction to him was in Forrest Gump. "Viet-f'ing-NAMM!!!"
@@jimmyboy131 ahhh a fellow Gump quoter 😂
@@andjulia9292 Yeah Forrest, Forrest Gump is a quote mine. I love that movie!
That clip in every doc about the 60s with that “Political pigs your days are numbered!” Quote.
Everyone feared Frank Sinatra and his bipolar-like temper.
Very cool, loved it!!
Wow, another amazing bit of history - thank you much!
Amazingly, one person who crossed my memory while viewing was a certain Herbert Armstrong. He felt the hippie movement was a cult... Based on some of the language used by some participants of that recorded discussion could have allied themselves, or at least be disciples of.
I'm from that generation. I understood what they were saying in this clip. When you question the very base of what the other party is arguing from, you are met with incomprehension. I recall keeping my opinions to myself rather than distressing other people's mindsets, people who had no idea they even had a mindset.
However:
1.At that time neither I nor anyone I knew would have made racist remarks nor used "gay" as a way to denigrate someone's attitude/s.
2. I wore certain fashions of the time for reasons of my own, but actively avoided others as bandwagon-jumping, plastic hippy, weekend hippy, fashion victim stuff.
3. I read Scientific American, Timothy Leary, and magazine articles about drugs before I ever met someone who had any. I knew the difference between psychedelics and opiates, uppers and downers.
4. Here in NZ there were many and varied "protests", "marches" etc., but I never went to a single one. I was definitely more Hippie" than "Activist".
5. I thought I was already a Feminist before I heard the term.
6. I was very narrow-minded about music though!
7. I spent the next few decades rather embarrassed to be linked to ostentatiously remnant hippie people with their incense, crystals, windcatchers and fringed leather.
There is no typical exemplar of any generation.
Thanks for sharing this David, If those men are still alive, I wonder if they would still say the same?🤔
What a wild time the 60s and 70s were to be young! Brings back a lot of memories lol. How casually Abby Hoffman used a racial slur and how it was quite representative of how many people talked then isn't one of the best memories though. It's hard to believe that so many Americans seem to be sliding back to this overt racism. And sexism too lol! They were pretty sexist. I mean women were just starting to stand up for themselves. Mostly we thought we could be teachers or nurses if we wanted to go to college. Few of us even imagined we could be something else. Strange and exciting times indeed.
Being from '66 I wasn't aware of the whole thing. Even worse: I live in Holland, so it didn't reach me. Watching the video gave me some odd feeling. It seems to me it shows detoriation of society in the making. Of course: not *all* was wrong about intentions and thoughts at the time, let me be clear about that. But then again... it seems a bit spooky hearing this men talk this way and not exactly knowing how genuine they were in their intentions and thoughts.
There's also the element of time, David. This footage is about fifty years old. The people acting in in this piece where that young at the time, but (if not deceased) so much older now. How are they looking back with today's knowledge and insights at this time period. It makes me wonder. And the older I get, the more I get a strange feeling about things like these I very vaguely remember.
I wish he hadn't made that comment and the show continued because this would have been the most in depth insight into the '60s counterculture, you would have been able to understand what was going on first hand for those who weren't born back then
The Netflix movie about Abbie Hoffman called "The Trial Of The Chicago Seven" was a great film, and Sacha Baron Cohen played his character well. A time when there were real heros to look up to,and lessons to be learned,oh how we miss them,and really need them in our world today.
Omg I loved Abbie Hoffman and Jerry Rubin
A pack of pseudo-intellectuals.
Guy with the chops and mustache was on point. What's his name? My parents lived in Haight Ashbury from 1963-1969 and always said Abbie Hoffman was an asshole.
As I see your videos from time to time I see that you have a interest in people. All walks of life. I have it to. That makes us kinda special I guess.
Loved Abbie and jerry rubin.
Abbie was basically a self- promoting opportunist. It is my fervent belief that he would completely change his political verbiage 180 degrees if it was culturally expedient to do so. This movie line by Brando sums him up exactly: "What are you rebelling against?~~"What you got"?
I definitely appreciate your work!! So different from today… I was born in 1967. A good year 😊
It’s crazy how much the world has change in 55 years!
This was amazing history
Cool to see. The hippies were awesome. What that 1 guy said was uncalled for though.....
I wonder what got the Smothers Brothers yanked?
BTW, as it turns out, he was completely correct on Vietnam.
What I heard was that they were making too much fun at Nixon's expense
David Steinberg, Canadian comic. Joked about religion. Naturally, a certain demographic reacted. The network said no more of thaT!The Smothers Brothers refused to be censored. And that’s why the show went off the airwaves 😢
OMG I want to see that Howard Zinn clip!!
IDK about Nancy but I heard Frank Sinatra was pretty powerful at that time and had "connections." That was a fascinating tidbit!
There's an essay by Harlan Ellison in which he recounts getting fired from Disney by lunchtime on his first day on the job. His takeaway is "You don't fuck with the mouse." I guess you don't fuck with Sinatra, either! (We already knew that.) Anyway, what a bunch of incoherent blather we see in this 1967 counterculture roundtable. Particularly egregious (as always) is Abbie Hoffman whose narcissistic outbursts are always a cry for attention.
Big Harlan Ellison fan! I remember that story. Something about Harlan jokingly suggesting some Disney-style cartoon porn with Mickey and Minnie. Love it!
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Abby Hoffman was very intelligent, very charismatic. He was also very high most of the time. Peace Out.
Abbie! Yes, I did Steal This Book lol.
"I guess I am a communist because I stand for destruction of (private) property". 'Grubby pinko hippies', as my dad used to say. A very interesting vid and a valuable commentary too - thanks Dave.
We were just feeling the Grove. Searching for our way. Trying to fit in.
Did you buy a lot of cool music from the time?
So which one was Abbie Hoffman? The one with the hat or the one in a tee-shirt, hat and tie?
The one with the hat.
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I don’t have enough drugs in my entire Cali neighborhood to understand them 😂
Good to see Abbie again. His philosophy is missed.
Where are they now?
Abbie was the absolute best . I never really understood him until about 54 , ya he was right of course not on everything but for most he was on . Tell us a little about the war man ,,, what the war in Vietnam? The war in Viet phukken Nam !!!!!
My inner 6 year old thanks you.
I'm more grunge...👹
🌴👹🍻😎🌴 I wasn't able to read your reply from earlier dear David...I hope all is well ❤
Answer: Nancy Sinatra's father.
Who are the 'Spaded' he's referring too?
"Spades." It means black people.
Abbie's childishness is often embarrassing and self defeating, Jerry Rubin eventually understood that and made better progress
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Spades, really?
When I was a kid these people scared me with their attitude. Now they scare me because they're running the country.
My knowledge and research tells me that not one of them is running the country. None of the people running the country now or in the recent past ever came from this group of people. Much more of them went to the fancy prep schools and expensive universities.
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@@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker Thanks! I think you're correct. I was trying to make a joke referring to that generation (which I'm a part of), but after leaving my comment I thought about it and realized exactly what you said. I almost went back to delete it.
You mean their awesome attitude, right?
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Kinda Like Black Lives Matter Light ! LOL
0:50 "I think it's kind of a put on"...umm, yes The difference between Abbie and Howard Zinn is the latter was serious. So Silver was kicked off the air not for opposing the war, but for using the term "boobs"
David, this really made me wonder, did you ever meet or film Woody Guthrie or Pete Seeger?
Micah: I never met Woody Guthrie but worked with Pete Seeger making a documentary on his boat in the Hudson river.
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@@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker ohhh that is amazing! As I understand he was part of the effort (or even spearheading?) to start cleaning up the Hudson. Im glad i got to share the earth with Pete for some years; he surely appeals to the boy scout in me. Id love to see that footage sometime! Thanks, David, you're amazing, youve been a LOT of places!
Well, it wasn't the fault of Nancy Sinatra that the guy was made a rude, uncalled for remark about Frank's daughter. I mean, let's not shift blame here.
“Are you a communist?” 😂
David, how often do you get asked if you're related to Abbie Hoffman?
Fairly often. I am not.
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Which one was Abbie Hoffman lol! I want to know bc my parents swear they drank with him where he summered while in hiding. He was pointed out to me once but i didn't pay much attention as I didn't really believe them and wasn't sure of who he was until I got to grad school.
Didn't think i would hear "fag" casually on a TV show like that lol
the full thing was censored when the other guy said it
Move them hippies north
Did they all become bankers, doctors, lawyers and stockbrokers?
Abbie Hoffman and the yippies were a bunch of creeps.
Does anyone remember the book with the title "Steal This Book!" The beginning of capitalism based on a movement that was against capitalism. Blue jeans were supposed to represent low cost living. Now they're expensive designer jeans. Smh
My father had a copy, but after learning that someone stole Andrew Hoffmans copy.. (both sound guys in Boston, at the time) he gave him his copy.. I asked why, he said "it's his father's book"
Weird, wholly unexpected homophobia going on there. But I know Hoffman and those guys could anti-woman, too, very casually. So they had their own problems. I'm pretty much on their side. I get it. But there was a lot of smug shit going on with them, too.
seems like yesterday but it was 20 years ago today
Ha......that is Abbie ......Steal This Book. lol
He spoke too close to the truth.
That is, N.S and many like her, was not born biologically female.
But they didn't get pulled for saying the word fag.
Man, hippies were obnoxious af.
Hey! Get off my lawn ya' punk.
The size of the baby boomer generation is getting smaller, Trump is the last of his showboater generation, but I did like Jan 6.
These guys are barely coherent.
Oops I guess you shouldn't have made fun of Frank's daughter