The Vocal Fry Epidemic
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- čas přidán 29. 08. 2024
- *I am talking about over-use. Some vocal fry is a natural part of human speech patterns.*
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It’s more than ten years later and it’s EVERYWHERE. It’s so depressing and I hate it
Exactly lol it’s funny to see grown adult women copying the kardashians because that’s where it came from.
Yes- it's getting worse.
My wife is a Speech Language Pathologist and has been complaining for well over twenty years about young women's vocal fry and the unpleasant voices they develop as they grow older. The video is a wonderful demo.
If I could "like" this a million times, I would. I don't know which one is worse, vocal fry or uptalking.
This drives me crazy. I didn't know it was called "vocal fry." This video is from 2011. Incredible. I still hear women using "vocal fry" in 2021. When will this speech trend go away???
I think it’s only gotten worse since 2011
Oh my man, this is just starting. Welcome to the world, grab a spoon.
@@brilliantFlame I just read that two thirds of college ladies use it!
Yesterday would not be soon enough.
@@Rick-jg8vx It has. Even men are doing it, especially zoomers
The intro hits different in 2020... A very accurate prediction from 2011 on what would happen in 2020, crazy...
I call it Audible Duck Face
Jon Jenkins woah
Good one!!
Jon Jenkins I literally LOL’ed in line at the grocery store reading this.
@@D1G1TALSYNAPS3 lol? Fuck off
Lmao
I've been calling it Geiger Counter voice. Never knew it was a thing.
I called it the death breath. lol.
Vocal fry is the ultimate turn off. Nothing more revolting to hear.
No Say yesss
You're revolted because you can't afford those empty-headed but beautiful women...admit it, honesty is the best policy lol
It may soon stop me from watching pron.
@@user-um7tw6kx4r6 Sad you have to pay for company.
God, when will it end! It is like nails on a blackboard. Auuugh!
FINALLY..! After years of wondering and a bit of searching, I found the name of my #1 pet peeve. Thank you very much I though there was something wrong with me because I really feel annoyed but I never let them notice it when somebody talks to me in vocal fry tone. But now I feel relieved realizing that some people dont like it too
MACKY TROIA
And trying to describe it to someone you are not able to talk to...'that gravelly...noise...vibrating thing...you know?'
Now we have a name. Remembering that name is my problem. This is the 3rd time I have Googled 'gravelly noise vibrating vocal...'.
It has bugged the hell out of me for yrs. Every since Britney Spears sang that dam song all young women started doing it. Gees.
@MACKY TROIA @darthbuzz @Barbara Riley Exactly the same here. I started to notice this some years ago in virtually every "recent" TV show and movie coming from the States. For example, "Girls", with Lena Dunham in full flight (but not just her: also Zosia Mamet, Gaby Hoffmann, Allison Williams... all of them tortured me the same way!). And look, I am not even a trained English speaker. But nobody near me seemed to notice or pay attention to this concern of mine. Was I going nuts? I googled "crackling voice" and similar terms with no results. Finally, a London-born English teacher who I dared to approach with this annoying stuff gave me the key word: "vocal fry". And now I know it's a pretentious, artificial, stupid, self-defeating habit for who-knows-what an absurd fashionable purpose... I will be grateful to him forever.
Me too and guys with..awesome dude. Spiccoli Sean Penn
@@barbarariley3488 u go girl..just kidding..that got worn out too wannabe inner city slicker
The sad thing is, once you pointed it out I had hard time not catching when your voice would dip into fry tones during normal speech.
she be frying...why she lying... say that with the fry tones....
The problem with vocal fry is that even if you only occasionally do it to demonstrate what it is, it has a way of creeping into your speech pattern. I think that is what is happening in this video.
At least she wasn't constantly frying and it wasn't pronounced,, but yeah, you could hear her dipping into fry, I think mostly before pauses.
That's natural speech patterns, men do it too, it's common when we pause in speech. We're talking about people who intentionally overdue it to a high degree.
I used to call this the 'twat growl', I didn't know it actually had a real name.
lol!
Taming ToLatte
haha for sure
twat growl. hilarious!!!!
that is so vulgar, but really funny!!
SageMageFox
lol thanx
I never knew the term for this, but I've noticed it among young women, and the only thing that irritated me more about it was trying to explain it to other people without knowing the term for it.
Thank you!
😂😂😂 "trying to explain it without knowing it" I literally just discovered this term today! And hello person from 8 years ago....if you're still alive on this planet.
@@snakejuce I actually found out what it's called two weeks ago "beginning of may 2023",I commented on a news paper artical which was about accents ,and I wrote something like .."what is this thing mostly woman do where their sentence drops down an octave and sounds like they are speaking with empty lungs" a guy commented on my comment and said" it's called "vocal Fry" and it is awful" I then looked it up, and had no idea what an epidemic it was ..girls ladies women out there ..trust me and a few million men..it sound flucking awfull!!!
You know what I really like and miss watching this video? It’s the low video quality. It feels so homely.
Yes, and all the set up with lighting and so on today.. has to be perfecT!!!!!
At last, I am finding the exact term for this irritating vocal epidemic. I simply tune out when I hear it. Thanks for the explanation.
Not being a native english speaker, during many years I mistook this vocal fry thing for the average american accent. So I was thinking there was something irritating and vulgar in the way american women spoke. Then I noticed it was not all of them, but still a real epidemic as you say. After a quick research I found this vocal fry term on youtube. This was years ago. Today I'm sad to witness that the epidemic, far from regressing, expanded even more. Till this day I still can't get used to it. The most ironic thing being that those who use it seem to think it is kind of posh or fashionable in a way. It's just vulgar and unnatural. Women's voice is far more seducing when it's within it's natural range.
You weren't wrong!
Vulgar? Lol do you know the definition of this word? I can’t imagine caring this much about the way ppl speak either. It’s actually not as much of a conscious choice as this person is claiming. Do some studies about how language develops ❤
@@Grimella92spice yea, it's not vulgar. Just snobby and annoying af
@@Grimella92spice They said they weren't a native English speaker but I guess you are. Did you know that the way they used vulgar to describe these people is actually an accepted definition? Look it up. They probably did.
"I'm being normal here" was said with a slight vocal fry
Mohammed Khochman SLIGHT, you said it right. Her (and everyone's) issue is with the exagerated use of it.
Can you read?
I wanted to fucking die when that happened. The subtle fry is almost worse than the over exaggeration.
Abby Normal. Not ‘being normal’. I did notice that!! I think because she was doing it deliberately. However she did do it a few times. I think because this is so pervasive, she vocalises ‘padderrrn’ instead ‘patttun’, when saying ‘pattern’. It’s Americanising the word endings. Summer should be ‘summah’, rather than ‘sumurrrr’.
Key word "Slight". Vocal fry is natural when it's not used excessively at the end of every sentence.
9 years on, I just saw this.... Absolutely hilarious AND SO TRUE... Brilliant..... Round of applause from UK
im from europe and i had to google a lot to even find this term "vocal fry" and now im shocked this really exists, wtf are you americans doing?
Dr. SuperFunk haha yeah, I'd never heard of it either
Dr. SuperFunk Destroying the English languages that's what they're doing.
Dr. SuperFunk I am also European living in Canada, trust me this is why I fuckin hate 80% girls here that crank up their fuckin voice going low to the fuckin ground, you wanna fuckin slap them one time and tell them.....bitch speak normal like a human being
fuckin Kim Khardasian you know....females follow other bitches on media
imfuraisoth they r fucking it up big time, I mean guys don't fuckin do this shit...like wtf is the point idiots, just calm the fuck and speak like normal human beings...err whatever
I know more immigrants that speak and write way better than those born in English speaking nation, because the immigrants are being thought the original English so to say from ground up....they learn the right way not the media way or fucked up way....so that's one thing there so to say
Vlad Baghdasaryan it seems like this is only a regional thing for english speakers in canada and usa, its an unnatural voice pattern, extremely annoying and socially unacceptable
I don't trust people using the Fry Tone.
greenghost2008 me neitherrrrrrrr.
It’s usually women
Exactly, you feel that something is up, a façade being pulled off to hide your genuine self.
Because they are not trustworthy. They're immature and gross.
Evolution of the "Valley Girl" speech pattern ... or should I say devolution of the "Valley Girl" speech pattern.
BOOM!
De-evolution👍🏼
@@anthonysalmon9965 👎
#devolution👈👍
Thar's what I was thinking! I wasn't sure; I'm no expert in it. I'm a midwesterner but have lived in Europe since the late 80's. Thought it reminded me of a Cali Valley girl yet different and so much more annoying and grating!
The Human race is devolving.
I'm so glad someone is speaking about this. I find it horrible when "professionals" resort to this tone...to me it makes them look ...well...less "professional." Thanks for the video!
It makes them look like morons, and we don't hire them.
This pattern has been making me crazy for over a year. Thank you for the video!
English is a Germanic language that makes frequent use of the glottal stop that will naturally give rise to the expression of the vocal fry register. The slow relaxation or impression of the glottal stop will cause this expression. It is fairly normal, and is even heard at times in your video when you are not exaggerating it for demonstration purposes.
Yes, that's why the video says 'some vocal fry is normal and is bad when overused.'
Glottal (please) Stop would be a great name for a goth band...lol
No kidding, she vocal fries about 20 times unintentionally. Actor john noble speaks in a CONSTANT vocal fry, its almost like people just hate hearing women talk or something
I suffer from terrible misophonia and vocal fry kills me as well as discourse words being overused but I'd never know what to call the sound of the saliva building up in the throat until reading about the glottal stop mentioned. Thankfully I now have another word in my "hate" category. I wonder if it's referred to as "glottal vibration" when Germans do the flem/hock sound of the H or how rabbis use it as well 🤔
You are absolutely correct, however there's still overdoing it. Unless your native language is Danish, one shouldn't be speaking with excessive vocal fry.
What I CAN'T STAND is when women will speak in a higher voice than is natural for them and add in vocal fry to sound sexy. No. They do not sound sexy or cute for sounding like a 6 year old with a sore throat. They sound both unintelligent and skanky. Please stop. It seriously pisses me off and makes me want to slap them.
I agree totally, but I recently realized as a guy that I make this vocal fry noise quite often. My voice is deeper than average, and on some days I find my self talking in one monotone vocal fry, idk what it is.
+Resora Shikaru You're probably a bass, basses end there sentences in fry usually
+Garden Glow rtrtrtrtrtrtrt omg
lol - "No." he says, rofl (I agree)
i`m absolutely ready to kill everyone who makes that fckng fry !!!!
The "vocal fry" is the music cancer of last two decades
Someone at my work talks in a vocal fry register. I never noticed before, then learned about it, and now I can't stand her voice :S
hahahaha eu percebo isso faz tempo e pesquisei no google, sem sabendo como achar. Acabei achando pesquisando froggy women english voice
LOL, true.
Ha! That's the feeling. I realize that strange trend in Movies! About more than a decade ago?! Do they actually force the actors to speak like that, and what's the purpose? If I watch a movie trailer nowadays where all men and women are burping like mating frogs, I know the film is rubbish already. Not worth my 💰
que aleatório ver vc aqui. eu tenho um enorme problema com esse tipo de vocalismo, acho que atualmente ele diminuiu um pouco e mudam mais a tonalidade da fala, isso me irrita muito.
Exactly it’s almost like ignorance is bliss. Once I learned about vocal fry I realized it was driving me nuts and now it’s only gotten worse because I’m so aware of it
Thank you for this video. I must say that besides the grating effects of vocal fry on the ear, it is that ending every sentence like a question bit that really does me in. I have a younger (a lot younger) step sister who does this all the time, and I am constantly on her about it. When you end a sentence like a question it is like holding a huge disclaimer sign over your head. It lack any sense of conviction and makes you seem timid and unsure.
A lot of mothers talk to their young kids and babies with this up voice (to sound cheerful while trying to convince them to do something) and then the kids grow up sounding like that.
Hear, hear. It's not JUST the fry, though. There is also:
-An overall nasally sound.
- As you mentioned the 'uptalk' (ending every sentence as though it's a question)
-The endless "likes" ( 'I was like, SO tired').
- The hard "R"s (close to fry, but not quite the same thing)
-AND I've noticed this habit of super hard "S"s- almost like a whistling sound.
So ladies, PLEASE break the habit. It doesn't sound sexy. It doesn't sound smart.
To the contrary, it sounds like a parody of the uneducated American who's idea of a cultural outing is going shopping and to lunch at nearest food court.
glad I'm not the only one who noticed the other points as well, especially the overall nasally sound. At some point I thought that's just a characteristic of American English but it is not, especially after watching videos of women and girls talking normally
Yes, yes, and yes.
I do the s thing unintentionally.It's less of a Hubert from family guy and more like a lingering syllable or stutter.
Eric John
Yes, yes and thrice yes.
That made me giggle.
I was a fan of Barack Obama, but the way that he said his S's always made me cringe. They were so sibilant.
This video says exactly how I feel about this vocal fry crap.
Vocal fry is irritating. It makes you want to walk away from the person using it. I wonder who introduced it.
I teach at a university and it seems a majority of young women have this mindless affectation - some of my female colleagues also have it. It is really annoying and makes people sound pretentious - not cultured.
Paul Dirac Anyone who does something with the intention of sounding more cultured turns out to be a fucking cretin.
+Paul Dirac *Of course it's not cultured. It started with porn stars like Britney Spears who stopped singing completely and refrained to just moining and groaning all the time. This "style" of singing was then favoured, promoted and sponsored by the white male billionairs in such shows like 'American Idol'*
It's definitely not cultured. It makes me people sound mentally dumb, like they never learned to speak properly and like they are not sure of what it is they are trying to say.
Tony A@
Absolutely
Read this on NPR and this is the info I get. Could not have asked for a more accurate description.
When my adult son was in the hospital a nurse had vocal fry…it really was hilarious…we still talk about her. And I shared your video with my son.
In my town, there is a local voice announcer on our radio and television commercials that does this. She prounces the word "centers" as "cenTeeeerrrrrrs" really drawing out the last syllable and over emphasizing the "t" in the middle. Her voice is extremely grating and I always reach for the switch whenever one of her many local ad spots airs.
I am not native English speaker but I've been working with English speaking people from over 30 countries and with British people for quite few years and I was wondering why do so many american women sound so different and so unnatural and so weird. Now I know there is even a name for it. Please stop doing it if it's not your natural voice tone. It sounds artificial stupid and immature. Sometimes it even hurts in the ears. If you don't get it and think it's it's a fancy habit google Kim Kardashian vocal fry and try to listen to it for an hour. Then you will maybe understand how annoying it is.
Robert Czwartek SAME!
There should not be any vocal fry in female speech patterns (the vlogger does not use correct speech; she croaks at the end of sentences). Both sexes are talking down IE. they are speaking in a register that is lower than that which is natural, especially when breathing properly.
It is so torturous to listen to that I use subs on many videos instead of audio.
This one. I am not native speaker as well and vocal fry sounds artificial and painful for ears. I try to avoid conversation with such people
I've noticed that in English and even SWEDISH adverts, they direct presenters to use it because it signals 'this is modern' or 'this is for us' to other women. It's awful. I am using subtitles on 80 percent of videos. I was on a plane next to a young Swedish woman, and when she switched to English I could hear that she was "throat speaking" urrrrr :/ so converting to vocal damned fry for foreigners. Please, shut up.
Woof. Woof, woof.
It's a SoCal thing... Don't really hear this in most NorCal areas...
It's popular with those under 30 "everywhere". It's not just a California thing altho' it started there (I'm not talking about singing, it's been part of singing since forever). I use to live in Northern California and it was everywhere. It's a sound I can't stand, so maybe I notice it more than some folks.
it's terribly irritating if you have misophonia, like i do
My four year old daughter does as well, and there are certainly some people she simply cannot handle listening to - she'll ask them to speak more quietly and if that doesn't fix the issue, she'll get up and leave.
beemayhemful I have a lot to learn from a four year old.
@@thekingoffunnyfaces me too
Erik B. Anderson ok?
oh do I know it, Erik - I have a very hard time listening to people when they're doing the vocal fry thing
I didn't hire a person because they spoke this way.
That is discrimination and you are a bitch i hope your business flops and burns in hell
Jasey2007 Perhaps she wants her business to come across to clients and customers as a professional one, instead of insipid and jejune.
Neal Gold
Open invitation to a law suit.
Thank you, A Estes, for helping to stop this epidemic. Now, if we can just encourage people to stop pronouncing an additional letter "h" in between the letters "str." Sportscasters are horrible, saying "shtruggle," "shtrong," "shtraight," but I've noticed Weather Channel personalities doing this now, particularly Mike Bettis and Stephanie Abrams.
That is the correct way that these words are supposed to be pronounced.
0:01 *watching in 2020* "You're so right."
Abby I sent your video to my son.
A nurse in WV had fry.
We liked her and never forget her.
Thank you for this video. I realize speech evolves. If you listen to early recordings from 50 years ago 100 years ago there’s always a Evolution. But this one in particular hurts my ears. There are many knowledgeable podcasts that I can’t listen to because of all the vocal fry going on but I literally can’t listen to it it hurts my ears
Thank you for your comment. I only recently got interested in podcasts, but after a few weeks I had to stop listening to them, because all of the vocal fry was driving me crazy!
No. This isn't 'evolution' - quite the opposite! Vocabularies in 'developed' countries are shrinking alarmingly, along with complex & subtle grammatical turns of phrase & subtleties of expression. The average person now uses about 1% of the wide & varied vocabulary of our grandparents. Languages are diminishing in richness & complexity - probably as our visual awareness & instant electronic info-exchanges take over. Youngsters today can't understand formal speech from even just one or two generations ago.
Thank you. I find it almost impossible to watch American drama now because most actors seem to deploy the fry. It makes them all sound the same which is incredible in an industry where being a standout is something to champion.
This has surprised me also; a young woman with a more classic, feminine voice or a deeper non-fry register would immediately open more opportunities for herself.
Haha she does the vocal fry thing without realizing it at 0:41 when she says "Hi, Abby Normal herrre"
yes, I think she slipped into it unwittingly.
for people saying "but she just vocal fried herself", she is NOT talking about any and every instance of vocal fry. She is specifically talking about EXAGGERATED VOCAL FRY, vocal fry as an affectation.
Everybody both men and women vocal fry occasionally when they are talking. But that is not the same as the ridiculous exaggeration of it that she is referring to here.
Her voice only croaked after demonstrating fry for a few minutes. She explained it hurts the throat and makes it feel sore, which it does as I have tried it to see.
This is actually an American thing.
That is true, I'm not even American but this thing has bothered me so much that I googled "forced hoarse", unsure whether i would find anything, and I ended up here. I'm so relieved that this is not just something in my head!!!!
I've always disliked it because it seems to suggest an 'I'm so laid-back, maaan' -attitude... the type of people who are just too damn pleased with themselves. Ugh...
It's been used *FOREVER* by the "veddy-veddy" upper classes in the UK. That's where we got it from...
What's funny is--when she is talking "normally," she still has vocal fry!!!
+Vincent Fitzpatrick What's even funnier is that you can't read. Look up the top at what Abby wrote: **I am talking about over-use. Some vocal fry is a natural part of human speech patterns.** The 'vocal fry' she uses when speaking normally is acceptable and part of everyone's everyday speech - including yours. The lady talks sense!
+Vincent Fitzpatrick And when she talks about upspeaking, she upspeaks.
+SponDooley
+Simon Chasings
As someone who lives in the UK and is fluent in French and Japanese in addition to English, I would say that vocal fry is more frequent in American English. It may be a "natural part of speech patterns", but not universally and equally across different languages or even the different dialects of English. I think there's something in the American English phonology that makes it particularly easier for vocal fry to creep into.
+Miranda N Correct, I think Americans are acclimatised to it. To the rest of the world it just sounds ridiculous.
Yea she's a typical dumb chick
"And I will stop wanting to throw poop at your face." Came out of nowhere and killed me 😂
Thank you for this explanation. When I first heard about it I thought your explanation might be what I was thinking 'vocal fry' would be. I appreciate the clarification and yes, this is THE most annoying speech pattern ever! I wont even talk to people that use this tone. It's awful!
Your imitations made me laugh my head off 😂 thanks for making my day
"Bored nonchalance, blahsay blahsay" is what I call it. I heard an interview recently by a woman nuclear physicist with major fry, made her sound like Mindy the sales assistant at The Gap.
The "semblance of bored extravagance" is what I call it.
I heard it for the first time this week on a flight from JFK to SFO. One of the two girls sitting next to me had a bad case of it. At times she sounded almost robotic. I caught her switching back into her normal voice from time to time, but she quickly switched back into ms. Roboto.
Funny how these people criticize Vocal Fry, yet they totally speak with Vocal Fry and don't even notice. 0:42 Listen to how she says "Here". Worst case of Vocal Fry if I've ever heard any.
Jahh i noticed 2
I think the issue is that once you use vocal fry, even just to demonstrate it, it creeps into your speech pattern I think since she had just done a rather lengthy demonstration of it, that is what happened.
@@shaiajean1 good point.
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THANK you, Abby. Thank you. I knew I was hearing more and more of this HIDEOUS noise. It's always such a relief to have it affirmed that something is indeed a trend and does indeed have a name. I was calling it Stupid Gravel Voice. So good to get a witness!! To all the Voice Fryers: It's not sexy. Or cute. At all. It just makes you sound like a twinkle brain.
a girl with a vocal fry instantly loses points on any date with me
I hate vocal fry. I won't even listen to someone talking who is going crazy with the fry. You can actually almost tell which females will do this by the way they hold their head and speak back into their throats. It's just awful to listen-to.
I've noticed that if an alpha female does fry, the beta females will go CRAZY trying to fry to sound like her.
There seems to be an over-representation of vocal fry with gay males too.
I have vocal fry.. I'm British so I don't sound like some bimbo but I can tell you that it's not always an affectation for me its the result of vocal damage and over here in the UK's it's quite common without being 'put on'
cethina fourtwentyfourseven
You should get over people not getting over it, then move on. ;)
cethina fourtwentyfourseven What is with these "get it over it, move on" asswipes? Fortunately, not everyone has a 7 second attention span and can examine, discuss, infer, plan, solve problems, etc. I mean, what DO you think is even worthy of discussion? "Hey, I stepped over the dead body of a child today." "What happened?! Did you call the police?!" "Pfft, no, it was dead, get over it, move on!"
cethina fourtwentyfourseven
We're deconstructing the implications of your dismissive philosophy on the Internet. Get over it. Move on.
cethina fourtwentyfourseven No, it's not a comparison, it's a metaphor. It's to illustrate that no matter how trivial or how significant the discussion, there is always at least one person that makes that same old "get over it" comment. I was solely addressing the dismissive attitude some people have toward what others want to discuss, no comparison between vocal sounds and a dead body was drawn.
Thank you so much for this video. I have been driven slowly insane by vocal fry and I didn't know what it was called. It irritates the living crap out of me as well. Bless you. ;-)
I can't help but think that this "fry " is put on .Its another thing where sad little gits have jumped on the bandwagon and say "Oh dear me ...I have this fry affliction now " they are the same brainless twats who spoke with that rising afflection a while ago ? Every sentence ends in a question ? Like , I always talk like this ? Bollocks , it is just an irritating trend that has affected my enjoyment of watching television . There is some idiot advertising a diet (where she has a pasta salad for lunch ...yum ) she has that bloody croak in her voice ...but not all the time so therefore it cant be a condition or a natural way of taliking ....and if it is a condition , why weren't there that many people talking like that a few years ago ? I know the sad little bastards who speak like this aren't reading this (can they read ?) but I just had to get this rant out of my system
Still driving me crazy in 2022! OMG will it ever stop?!?
I had no idea that there was a term for this. I've been calling it 'Kardashianing" for all these years. I hate it so much, especially when it's obvious that someone is forcing it bc they think it sounds cute.
That's who I blame. Them and Rachel Zoe was one of the founders of the Vocal Glotilization Gang! KOURTNEY KARDASHIAN uses this way of off speaking and probably isn't intelligent enough to notice how obnoxious it really is!!
Well, I heard poor Abby Normal use vocal fry unintentionally at least twice in the video. Poor girl, going down with the ship!!!!!
more than twice. Sometimes it's natural. I tend to use vocal fry more when I'm sick.
2:13 - LMAO!!!! Many thanks for this video - a perfect public message and informative, too. Btw, I often get this fry when I am nervous/upset :)
You are vocal frying all the time Abby! Not really hard.. but you do.
@Pixi Erm, no, she's gravelly as anyone in every sentence! She even says her own username with loads of 'fry': 0:40
Counting instances of vocal
frying and upward glides during a boring seminar is very entertaining.
Loads of Tibetan Om chanting on CZcams. Om as long as your breath gold out for me. You & Om were meant for each other.
Thank you, thank you, thank you! I hear this in women's voices on tv and radio and it is sooo irritating. Didn't know there's a name for it. You do such an entertaining educational service. May your message be heard by professional presenters everywhere.
she definitely has vocal fry in her normal speaking voice
Lol. That's what I was thinkng too. I read the captions throughout her video. She said its normal for some people's voices, her problem is when people "exaggerate" it.
It may be normal for some people's voices, but she also exploits the vocal fry in her voice linguistically, as part of her pattern of intonation. She has just decided that the way she uses vocal fry is acceptable, and the way young girls use it is not. What's REALLY irritating in young people's speech is not the fry, but the presumed attitude that goes with it.
baqaqi
Overuse makes many, many things irritating.
Besides, I don't think she has decided to say her use of vocal fry was normal.
Because it actually sounds normal, as her use isn't exaggerated or overdone in any way resembling the one she describes.
Brieanna Richmond I do too. I've actively tried to stop it, but it just happens. I'm sure smoking doesn't help lol.
Vocal fry is switching to a lower register. I'm not quite sure she does it in that particular way.
It is also natural to use fry/rasp when you are tired.
Thank you for pointing out how these mannerisms are used to identify with a desired social group. It's another example of "Chameleon-ing" to fit in.
Couldn't have explained it better ! Nice work - your humor is especially appreciated.
It also goes by the names dingbatitis and ditzoid syndrome.
Individuals who use VF in their day-to-day speech tend to build up a lot of vocal tension in the attempt to raise the intensity of their voices, which usually is reduced in this type of emission. To disable the persistent use of the VF in usual speech, it is suggested the direct change in the vocal frequency of the patient's phonation.
Lol, this is great.
Husky is sexy, vocal fry is scary weird.
Englishman.
vocal fry correlates to stupidity like snow correlates to winter
Tobias Beer why?
are you calling all the 18 000 people who speak the Jalapa Mazatec language stupid. That language distinguishes vowels that do not have vocal fry from the ones that do.
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I don't think Tob' means the speakers of that ancient aztec language.
He means the people Abby Normal describes in this video, those who (over)use the vocal fry in their speech.
Sure, did. Man, those sophisticated ancient languages drive me nuts. ^_^
No, really. Thank you. If I have to listen to another young woman speaking like a bullfrog, I'll throw something at her.
Love your comments about the bullfrog :)
You just did it here 0:42
“Here” goes super low. Then you come back up again.
Dislikes are people with vocal fry who can't take criticism, thinking it's a normal thing and irritating at all
In the moment when you are fry-ing -- say at the end of a sentence -- you are way up at the top of your throat -- sitting down on top of your voice, kind of -- and even though it's a lazy thing, there's also some physical tension -- and, to this listener, the fry-er's voice seems comparatively disconnected from her or his body, and from the breathing mechanism -- ALL OF WHICH IS INCREDIBLY ANNOYING.
This is how I used to talk when I was 8-11 years old, I never knew there was a a name for it. Luckily I don't sound like that anymore.
I have a perspective on vocal fry that’s a little unique, I do this a lot unfortunately (and I hate it!) but I only started doing it since developing chronic fatigue syndrome / myalgic encephalomyelitis. My brain and body get absolutely exhausted to the point where it’s sometimes very difficult for me to make myself food, go to the bathroom, and speak. I’ve had this condition for several years now and it’s completely debilitating, I used to be highly functioning and successful but now I’m on disability. I often feel like I don’t have enough energy to end my sentences strongly, or even to speak normally. I hate that I vocal fry but I find it very hard to control with my new medical condition. Please don’t always autocorrect judge people or assume something about their character based on how they talk/sound, you never know what a person may be going through! :)
Lmfao the second you switched to the vocal fry impersonation. I’m dying
Now have the combo platter of Vocal Fry + inserting "like" into ever sentence.
... or 'lake' if they're Canadian
I live in main-land Europe and I can recognize American girls and young women by their voice before they are even close enough to hear what language they are talking. I suspect vocal fry is the cause of this. Am I right?
I don't know. I can often recognise that someone is speaking with an English accent long before I actually hear them. There's likely just a correlation with cultural body-language and presentation that gives it away. Plus, you can tell if someone is not American by the fact that they will occasionally stop talking.
Gosh, I've always wondered why young american teens souded like that ! :)
Same
I'm so glad I have a word to describe what I always considered an attractive voice and interesting personality feature.
This made me realise: You use it whether or not you're using your american-bimbo voice, just less so normally. But I don't use it at all when I speak, nor do I normally hear anyone else, and I think it might be to do with accent.
Coming to think about it, the only people I ever hear speaking with it, when they're not so incredibly depressed/downtrodden/tired that they can't be bothered putting the energy in to talk, are Americans and especially Canadians. And for the longest time, it's always bothered me that there was this certain quality about American and more-so Canadian voices that makes them sound like they're just a hair's breath away from collapsing onto the ground in tears, bemoaning the tragedy and horrors of their own lives and existence. When I'm not speaking to an American or Canadian, it's only ever heard when someone is either incredibly depressed and downtrodden, or just as they're about to start crying. So it's a mental trigger that says "This person is incredibly unhappy and needs comforting, or if they're talking like a bimbo, they're being stupid and over-dramatic."
This explains why I feel so sorry for Canadians now whenever I talk to them xD This video has genuinely taught me something:- Thankyou!
this is White-Anglo talk, and its even more annoying to hear non-whites talk like this.
quetzalamaru I'm white anglo and I don't talk like that and neither do my daughters or granddaughters. I always considered that to be "rich California girl" talk.
I'm not sure you're offering any interesting insight into the mental health and overall satisfaction of Americans and Canadians. I think, instead, you're just telling us that you have a shitty peer group full of people who are depressed and bored.
Tiffany Montgomery I wasn't offering insight into the mental health of Americans or Canadians, I was talking about how this mental trigger for "upset" is confusingly naturally part of their accents.
HaniiPuppy It's because rhotic sounds in America/Canada come from way in the back of the throat, which puts pressure on the larynx and causes vocal fry in the everyday speech of most people here, even though they only complain about it when someone is doing it a lot. It's an institution that favors loud people as well, because it requires excess vocal strength.
Thank you for your very interesting talk and demonstration in wich you yourself use vocal fry, too. I'm not sure if you do this on purpose, just to demonstrate or if it is really part of your own speechpattern, because you continue to use vocal fry during your explanation. For example when you pronounce the following sentence: (0:43) "I'l be normal here" on "nor" and "here". when you proceed, vocal fry can be observed in: (actually a) "vocalism" / (some really low) "bass parts" and so on. Its is a standard sound in your own speech. Vocal fry can be a nice exercise to relax your vocal folds. On the other hand: it exposes a lack of action in moving your vocal folds whilst speaking. So: you are quite a nice example of people who use vocal fry in daily speech. I tend to think that in some languages the amount of vocal fry varies. In American and English a lot. In Dutch and German less. In Frech sometimes. Last example to point out in your speech, where you can detect vocal fry effect very clearly: (1:41) (that you add to your) "speechpattern" - here you speak on a high pitch in "speech" and on a lower tone, accompanied with a lot (!) of vocal fry on "pattern".
Nice topic, anyway. Thanks.
I LOVE this!! explaining to the transgressors is good, too. And whoever said you end every sentence with a question????AARRGGGGGG
Oh my god, I finally did it. I found the most boomer comment section on CZcams.
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my mum sent this to me with the caption: please don’t do this
Vocal fry can be combined with uptalk, so there's no chance to be mistaken for a person of normal intelligence.
This is an awesome video. Two women around my work do this in a customer facing role, and it just makes my skin crawl. They sound unprofessional, immature, and insincere.
You're old
@@ABunchOfBusas No one cares about you.
It's amazing how much we do this without evening noticing ourselves. For example, in this video you say the following, with vocally fried words in brackets [like this] at 1:37:
"It's becoming something that you [add] to your speech [pattern] and it's really [not] good [uh] for your throat."
Sadly not just America. Here in New Zealand I start to hear that a lot. A girl at my work place "talk like that", and worse, she upspoke every sentences. I really rather listen to a chalk on a board than her voice
I LOVE THIS!!! Great job. Keep spreading the word!
Thank you! It is indeed an epidemic. I'm in Australia and I LOATHE it. Combined with everything ending in "er" being given an "ah" ending - "Hope you feel (vocal fry) bett-ah next (vocal fry) yee-ah" - it's doing my head in. I had to put earplugs in on public transport one day because I felt like punching someone, and believe me, I'm normally very placid.
I agree.
It ain't natural when teenagers today do it constantly whereas a generation ago nobody did. This is a learned affectation from too much tv watching and copycatting Kardashians and others. Why anyone would think that this adds CLASS to the way you talk is absurd! People with real class wouldn't be caught dead talking like that. Listen to any film with Lauren Bacall or ANY major Hollywood star from a generation ago and not one of them would have been hired if they talked like that. Time for people to start complaining until newscasters and others just don't get hired until they know how to speak without irritating half of the population.
Ha haaaa! Another person who is annoyed by newsreaders. Here in Australia, our non-regional dialect irritates the shit out of me. All vowels are pronounced with the tightening of throat muscles and rigid tongues, instead of using the regular glottal stops.
Yes, but a regional dialect isn't the same as a mindless affectation! :0p
Some Hollywood stars of the 30's and 40's did however use a "transatlantic" accent which is also contrived and not real (but it wasn't annoying like this present trend).
"Why Do People In Old Movies Talk Weird?"
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You're kidding right? You don't remember valley girls???
I liked Jacklyn Smith's voice from the 70's
I think this sound suggests that the speaker is so cool and so relaxed that even their throats are relaxed to the point of making this sound.
Amen!!! And yes! Someone has to say it. Thank you!!!
Is the use of vocal fry at 0:43 supposed to be ironic?
I caught that as well.
Some amount of vocal fry is normal in regular speech. Intentional overuse is the problem.
Thank you Abby.....I wish I could send this PSA to some of the women in my workplace without it coming off mean but gosh, they get on my nerve with this stupid vocal frying voice.
@Alisa Cabral, um vocal fry and valley girl talk are two different things.
So, it's vocal fry and uptalk. A distinction without much of a difference.
@@hijodelaisla275 "Much of" = there's a difference. 🤷🏾♀️
@@rachybaby72 That's what I said - but not much.
@@hijodelaisla275 The saying goes: "A distinction *without* a difference". There _is_ a difference. 🤷🏾♀️
I agree that this is VERY irritating!
At my office we have an open floor plan. I use noise canceling headphones some times to concentrate. HOWEVER, this vocal fry is un-cancelable. There’s no technology yet to stop this freaking frequency to be stopped…
You explained that very well. Super annoying hearing it everywhere especially commercials like St Judes ,Secret Deodorant and many more
didn't know there was a name for it but i ran across an old article talking about how Naomi Wolf was ganged up on (online lol) for telling girls not to talk like that. ridiculous people would defend being annoying and dumb sounding