Learn how to cut a BEAUTIFUL SHAG haircut with 70's inspired styling by Ben Brown

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  • čas přidán 18. 05. 2021
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Komentáře • 486

  • @angelmoore2588
    @angelmoore2588 Před 3 lety +86

    People don't show enough appreciation for hairdressers. They really are artists.

    • @toomylight2311
      @toomylight2311 Před rokem

      Thank you , it’s not all just about the weathers and holidays you know !😘😎

    • @ritamarozke
      @ritamarozke Před 6 měsíci

      I do and always did

    • @alexa3669
      @alexa3669 Před 21 dnem

      I mean I’m here because I can’t get a hairdresser to do what I want.

  • @lokisfriend
    @lokisfriend Před 3 lety +615

    I've chased this haircut for years, my aunt had this in the 70's when I was small and I always thought it was so beautiful however, I have not found anyone who can cut this style. I will take this video with me to the shop and see if I can't get this for myself after all this time

    • @Melshelly1
      @Melshelly1 Před 3 lety +20

      if you are able to take this video and indeed receive this haircut, would you kindly post a before and after pic? If not comfortable doing so, I understand. Thanks and have a great day!

    • @tailzzzzz
      @tailzzzzz Před 3 lety +37

      I've gotten my very worst haircuts taking a picture of a haircut along with me. Not sure why nobody can cut hair from looking at a picture anymore. Shops around where I live will just look at the finished product of this video and say, yeah, I got this. They'll never watch the video to realize they don't.

    • @lokisfriend
      @lokisfriend Před 3 lety +45

      @@tailzzzzz My experience is I tell them what I want, specifically & we discuss whether it will work with my hair then they do what they want I leave not with what I wanted at all.

    • @annross1611
      @annross1611 Před 3 lety +3

      Got to go to a big city like Dallas and find out by asking who is the best hairstylist and a guy at that,no woman. The best in Texarkana Tx is "Bro to Bro". They are awesome ,even had a girl chase me in the mall and asked me where did I get my hair cut at and I told her and dnt know after that but if she went she was happy

    • @nickitee8202
      @nickitee8202 Před 2 lety +9

      I've been looking for someone to give me this cut too...i'm also going to take the clip to show the hairdresser to see if they can do this...good luck i say

  • @dinkydink2840
    @dinkydink2840 Před 3 lety +221

    You gotta admire hairdressers 👍🏻 what they do is far more technical than you'd think 🤔

    • @annross1611
      @annross1611 Před 3 lety +11

      Yes,but more than 97% there is not one that can cut the way you want it,even by showing them a picture and that is the facts. Dnt know how in the world they got their license.

    • @rain3743
      @rain3743 Před 3 lety +14

      @@annross1611 because continued education is paramount. We really start learning right after we get a license, and take continued education. You only have to demonstrate you can section, palm your shears, and cut safely. They don't care how bad they cut it. This is why it's important to ASSIST for 6mo to a year or go to a really good technical school that teaches an entire matrix of cuts. This man is classically trained by Sassoon. It's obvious. (Possibly Paul Mitchell, but they all came out of Sassoon principles.)

    • @rain3743
      @rain3743 Před 3 lety +9

      Thank you. Those of us who are true pros, never stop learning and practicing.

    • @danaloftsgard6016
      @danaloftsgard6016 Před 2 lety +3

      @@annross1611 realistic expectations are key and you haven’t found the right one

  • @emcemcemc
    @emcemcemc Před 2 lety +163

    Watched this tutorial a few months ago and used a razor instead and literally cut the most beautiful shag cut on my client. Literally got so many clients because of this tutorial thank you! You're amazing.

    • @wolfie1027
      @wolfie1027 Před 2 lety +3

      I think that's the only way to cut my hair, W a razor

    • @SirenaSpades
      @SirenaSpades Před 2 lety +1

      Perhaps cut down on the 'literally' usage.

    • @queentrinicorn9441
      @queentrinicorn9441 Před 2 lety +9

      @@SirenaSpades it’s not that serious, can’t ya just be happy they’re happy ? 😂😂

    • @angiebutterfield5312
      @angiebutterfield5312 Před rokem

      Really would be best as razor cut shag , he cuts in front of guide fingers on one side snd behind on other side no need ??? Just pull a razor and cut with same over direction to original guide twist to horizontal gives more length too

  • @bellalouise6867
    @bellalouise6867 Před 2 lety +20

    This is how I wore my hair in the 70's and continue to do so in my 60's. Such a beautiful hairdo.

  • @curvyblue2843
    @curvyblue2843 Před 11 měsíci +3

    My personal opinion is you can learn technique all day long but you either have the gift to cut hair or not...this man has a gift!

  • @audeliameza38
    @audeliameza38 Před 2 lety +238

    Omg I was crazy enough to do this on myself!!! I’m so in love!!!! It revived my curls and it looks beautiful straight. If you are thinking about it do it!! Thank you so much for your beautiful easy to follow video!! 😀

    • @googleuser2874
      @googleuser2874 Před 2 lety +2

      How did you do the back?

    • @audeliameza38
      @audeliameza38 Před 2 lety +3

      @@googleuser2874 Follow the video extremely careful. Listen to what he says about parting and raising the hair at certain angels. Take small pieces that way it not to much to handle.

    • @CheleBoxy
      @CheleBoxy Před 2 lety +3

      Would love to have seen a photo!

    • @BYHIZBLOOD
      @BYHIZBLOOD Před 2 lety

      I am and I will go for it!!!!!

    • @cheery-hex
      @cheery-hex Před 2 lety +3

      @@CheleBoxy me too. It's a great tutorial but I'd prefer seeing the cut without styling. Imo there are a lot of women like me who never style their hair!

  • @Cass_772
    @Cass_772 Před 2 lety +7

    I wish hairdressers like you were here in Canada, wow, it is an art to see you working

  • @jillipepper5353
    @jillipepper5353 Před 3 lety +132

    When we used to cut this style back in the 70’s we put all the hair neatly and evenly in a ponytail on the very top of the head and cut the hair off right above the elastic if a shorter shag was wanted or cut it an in or three above the elastic . As you take it down you get even layers all the way down in all directions. Then we trimmed the bangs and the back a bit to give a little fullness at the edges, cleaned up the look. Better to cut longer to start, you can always do it again if you want it shorter. This was for friends and family,in the salon we did it more like this because people were paying money for our time. Same result . Works amazing on curly hair.

    • @rhodayackez9570
      @rhodayackez9570 Před 3 lety +3

      The shags looked better then. I had one too and the ends of the hair were trimmed to give the cut a richer finish.. Those scraggly ends ruin the cut for me.

    • @ayannae.3149
      @ayannae.3149 Před 3 lety +7

      now that seems like an easier method!

    • @mythepoeia
      @mythepoeia Před 2 lety +2

      it works on curly hair? i was about to comment that i have crappy curly/frizzy-ish hair that would never be good in this cut, as much as i love it. now you've piqued my curiosity!

    • @jillipepper5353
      @jillipepper5353 Před 2 lety +2

      @@mythepoeia if you want it to be curly, I’ve never straitened this cut , just encouraged the natural curl to riot. Do you use the curly girl method on your hair ?

    • @mythepoeia
      @mythepoeia Před 2 lety +1

      @@jillipepper5353 no i don't really use any method - it's almost all one length now and just a mass of squiggly waves and curled ends (and split ends). haven't had it cut in over 2 years. i can't imagine my hair doing anything but lying there, as that's the way i've worn it for so long.

  • @seitanbeatsyourmeat666
    @seitanbeatsyourmeat666 Před 3 lety +18

    A great stylist is absolutely an artist

  • @elizabethlascelles-karim1049

    I was an apprentice hairdresser in mid 70s and had my hair cut very similar to this.. it was razor and “tapered cut” razor was always used on wet hair and tapering was always on dry. 😁 I am dying to have my hair cut like this again.. love it. 😍

  • @tomboyclaude
    @tomboyclaude Před 3 lety +11

    You are the best hair cutter I’ve ever seen in my life

  • @thefringesalon4871
    @thefringesalon4871 Před 2 lety +3

    I love ur no bullshit approach to creating shape. Well done.

  • @lorigrave8667
    @lorigrave8667 Před 3 lety +13

    Gonna show my hairstylist your video so I get this haircut!! Thank you

  • @itsybitsytosan5662
    @itsybitsytosan5662 Před 3 lety +10

    This was my hair cut in the 80's. My favorite😀

  • @ProudShipperVII
    @ProudShipperVII Před 9 dny

    This guy is a true artist. I watch these videos purely for the zen feeling.

  • @morgannewood
    @morgannewood Před 3 lety +42

    I’ve grown my hair down to my butt with the intent of getting it all one length, but this cut is so beautiful 😍 oh well, hair grows back!

    • @bklyn2343
      @bklyn2343 Před 3 lety +6

      Same! I’ve had my hair below my butt for years. After spending my whole childhood always getting it cut off by my aunt hairdresser in training and gma who wanted to match bowl cuts. So It was my safety blanket. But this year I just said time for something new. And cut it all off and got a shag. It’ feels so freeing and sooo much easier to style funny enough. Hair sure does grow back when you care for it. but I love it ♥️

  • @barbaramatthews4735
    @barbaramatthews4735 Před rokem +1

    I was watching this and following very easily. It looked comfortable and easy to follow...then I realized you are left handed...I am too. I sometimes get lost with handedness. Watching other lefties make demonstrations more easy for me to understand.

  • @jessicalehner
    @jessicalehner Před 9 dny

    You are such an amazing artist I can tell you’ve taken so much time and hours into your craft!!!

  • @cynsan4826
    @cynsan4826 Před 3 lety +58

    Love this haircut! I used to wear it in the '70s! Wish I could wear it again. You did an excellent haircut. Thanks.

    • @rain3743
      @rain3743 Před 3 lety +6

      It's tineless and universally beautifful if you have enough hair. There are cute shorter versions, too. Not great on low density and fine hair, but works with most hair.

    • @ChestersonJack
      @ChestersonJack Před 2 lety

      @@rain3743 My hair is high density but is very fine and straight. My experience is that it generally looks okay, but 1. balancing product when I choose to style it is tough because I need enough to get some volume but no so much it weighs the hair down, which happens easily. Number 2. making sure the hair is clean and not greasy is doubly important, because that extra shininess makes me look like a lion who got rained on. (I definitely recommend looking up photos of lions with their manes soaked, it’s very silly looking)

  • @aracnide5051
    @aracnide5051 Před rokem +1

    Finally! An educator who actually explains what's the impact of the techniques he chooses for the cut instead of just a to do list. Lovely, you earned a subscriber.

  • @kimmyray1234
    @kimmyray1234 Před rokem +1

    ❤ WOW! Fantastic! ❤
    I am a 19yr Hairstylist retired. My life was the 70s/80s . That Bing rolled 🪽 winged hair...remember.... thank you for the nice tutorial on the shag cut. ✂️ my daughters been dying for me to give her , but was a little rusty! ❤ FANTASTIC JOB! ❤

  • @pimpmyride7278
    @pimpmyride7278 Před 3 lety +5

    Gorgeous. The curtain bang is my favorite.

    • @rain3743
      @rain3743 Před 3 lety

      A requirement, really, for that truly sexy shag vibe.

  • @serendipity1237
    @serendipity1237 Před 2 lety +5

    there are a lot of great hair tutorials on CZcams by a lot of awesome hair stylists, but you're my new favorite! It's fun to watch you work your instinctual magic!

  • @nillamia8755
    @nillamia8755 Před 3 lety +18

    just tried this and wow:) my arms hurt but it was worth it !!! THANK YOU.

  • @samdavies7724
    @samdavies7724 Před rokem +6

    This is one of best cutting tutorials I've seen on CZcams, thank you. Really easy to follow and satisfying to watch, such a beautiful cut.

  • @dianalimon6890
    @dianalimon6890 Před 2 lety +2

    Ben, I used to wear my hair like this in the 70’s and still do but now in gray. I love it! I have compliments from men and women all the time.

  • @axlflor
    @axlflor Před 3 lety +12

    this is absolutely gorgeous and exactly what i want. hopefully i will get this cut soon!! thank you so much for this video!

  • @kaylenev2907
    @kaylenev2907 Před 2 lety +2

    This is so gorgeous. Cut and color. Thank you for the tutorial!

  • @nicoleruvalcaba3452
    @nicoleruvalcaba3452 Před 2 lety +12

    I’ve been watching many tutorials on this haircut. Your style in teaching, explaining is superb. I finally understand the technique from this video. You have shared your wisdom and I’m grateful to you for that. Well done!

  • @yolnow4ever515
    @yolnow4ever515 Před 2 lety +6

    Thanks for showing that a great cut needs the time and attention to each transition and connection to remain flowy, especially with finer and fewer hair!
    Very well shown too, thanks again! 🙏🤗

  • @lisabmf58
    @lisabmf58 Před 3 lety +102

    I want him to cut my hair just like that!✂️

    • @Deanie203
      @Deanie203 Před 3 lety +9

      MEEE TOOO! I cant find any hair stylists who even section hair anymore, they just grab hair and cut- I always regret it every time I go. Ugh!

    • @lisabmf58
      @lisabmf58 Před 3 lety +3

      @@Deanie203 LOL ... I agree with you 100%

    • @bubbavonbugga5452
      @bubbavonbugga5452 Před 3 lety +3

      Me 2!!👌

    • @izzyjones7108
      @izzyjones7108 Před 3 lety +1

      same

    • @roxxigirl1320
      @roxxigirl1320 Před 3 lety +3

      In my opinion he made this cut more difficult than what it really is. When I went to hair dressing school in the seventies it was called the Farrah Faucet cut. You can do the layers yourself by pulling all you hair to the top of your head. Ex. Put your hair in a pony tight at the top of your head. Pull the band away from your head till you’ve reached the length you want and cut all hair above the band and voila, you have the layers you want.

  • @tanyazinovyev9676
    @tanyazinovyev9676 Před 2 lety

    All your tutorials are amazing! Thank you! I can’t wait to try this look

  • @vaneblack
    @vaneblack Před 3 lety +15

    I wish i could wear that haircut 😭 it is beautiful!

  • @LJCasey-sd4eu
    @LJCasey-sd4eu Před 3 lety +7

    BEAUTIFUL haircut!!!! I always learn SO much from you!!!!!..... you've really upped my game behind the chair! ❤️🇨🇦. Thank you!

  • @yadirarigual3484
    @yadirarigual3484 Před rokem +2

    Best shag tutorial i've seen. The way you explain every step of this cut was not only accurate but perfect. Thank you so much. Beautifuly done. ❤✂️

  • @conniepleasantnails
    @conniepleasantnails Před 3 lety +7

    Agh I need your haircut it’s beautiful and I love the old school vibe of this look

  • @_nay__
    @_nay__ Před 2 lety

    Omg I'm in love. The perfect shag. Gonna get this cut next month. praying it looks like this.

  • @victoriajanescicluna3578
    @victoriajanescicluna3578 Před 3 lety +13

    Such a beautiful hair cut

  • @rebeccahernandez4991
    @rebeccahernandez4991 Před 3 lety +2

    Love love love! I used it to cut my own and I 🧡 the results! Thank you!

  • @Suzyfromtheblock
    @Suzyfromtheblock Před 2 lety

    The cut is so important in any hairstyle, absolutely precise

  • @cyndymacdonald9307
    @cyndymacdonald9307 Před 3 lety +23

    Great job. Shag is my fave hairstyle. No one takes the time to cut hair right around here where I live. Very nice. I want 👍😁

    • @barbaratodd1769
      @barbaratodd1769 Před 3 lety +3

      Same here!

    • @macca923
      @macca923 Před 3 lety +3

      Yep same here

    • @rain3743
      @rain3743 Před 3 lety +2

      I book an hour for haircuts. I do this cut often, and also razor cut many of them. You should find an older stylist in an upscale salon. They'll know.

    • @barbaratodd1769
      @barbaratodd1769 Před 3 lety

      @@rain3743 I have tried every salon in my town, no luck!

  • @susantomes6721
    @susantomes6721 Před 3 lety +2

    Thank you. A wonderful tutorial from an excellent teacher.

  • @tracythorrold3263
    @tracythorrold3263 Před 3 lety +5

    Love this haircut, thank you for sharing
    You make it look easy! Not sure I can achieve the same result! ❤️

  • @gamergirlmars
    @gamergirlmars Před 3 lety +12

    I have this haircut currently and will try your technique next time I'm due for a cut! Beautiful! With the steel colour it's gorg.

  • @somayyablog4171
    @somayyablog4171 Před 3 lety +1

    Beautiful and up-to-date haircut for nowadays I love shags and nobody do it here in my country I do it myself after taking classes it's the best hair ever I love the models hair colour it's awesome thanks

  • @SamanthaMFalls
    @SamanthaMFalls Před 2 lety +1

    You did my favourite shaggy tutorial

  • @easychinese111
    @easychinese111 Před 2 lety +1

    The greatest haircut tutorial among my list, thank you for sharing.

  • @amymonteagudo5516
    @amymonteagudo5516 Před 2 lety +1

    Omg I have looked for this hair cut for so many years and I finally found it .your amazing I love it .

  • @jakkfm
    @jakkfm Před 3 lety +1

    Beautiful work! Can't wait to have a go myself now :) Thanks for sharing your skills!

  • @eumelyo
    @eumelyo Před 2 lety +2

    I loved this video so much! So helpful and very different yet easy approach in comparison to other videos!

  • @deborahstark7733
    @deborahstark7733 Před 3 lety +1

    Stunning. Thanks for sharing. I’m going to go with this style.

  • @TossledHair
    @TossledHair Před 3 lety +10

    beautiful presentation and I really enjoyed how thorough you were. thank you, God bless

  • @benybeny8104
    @benybeny8104 Před 2 lety

    One of the Best Shag Hair Cut!!
    You are Undoubtedly one of the Best Artistic Hairdresser nowadays.

  • @amyexner
    @amyexner Před 2 lety

    Love it ….about time a good haircut is coming back…and looks so stylish

  • @tabithacollins8377
    @tabithacollins8377 Před rokem +1

    Oh my goodness I wish I could come to you for this haircut. No one here seems to be able to do this!!

    • @debbieburkland1727
      @debbieburkland1727 Před rokem

      Ask on the phone if they are willing to watch the video and then cut your hair that way..I found one stylisr that said she would, so Im going to her soon after she wstches this.

  • @amywaterman-mcintyre
    @amywaterman-mcintyre Před 10 měsíci +1

    Wow you really are top notch. Your shears really are something special, also. Oddly satisfying 😌

  • @Satsusss
    @Satsusss Před 3 lety +11

    The perfect hair cut !

    • @mariakolsky3806
      @mariakolsky3806 Před 2 lety +2

      What a beautiful haircut what a beautiful haircut nobody takes her time anymore he's One in a Million wonderful

  • @ProjectAna
    @ProjectAna Před rokem

    By far the BEST tutorial about this haircut ever. Thank you very much

  • @patrishanotpatricia6456

    This is such a beautiful cut. Love it 😍

  • @linkedinlove106
    @linkedinlove106 Před 3 lety +10

    Fantastic! Now if I can just find someone near me to create this to the same perfection...

  • @candicemcmillan720
    @candicemcmillan720 Před 2 lety +1

    Gorgeous! Perfect Shag 💕

  • @ashleym5000
    @ashleym5000 Před 2 lety +1

    This dude is an artist

  • @chewbaccalyn302
    @chewbaccalyn302 Před 2 lety +1

    So glad that u educate, I love to keep up with new cuts and color. You go thru this cut nice and slow showing angles, and explain why, and what it does for the cut. Love your narration, I had to go back a couple times but you tought me, great job! Just wish I saw this before I paid 300$ today, I could have done this myself! Keep teaching!!

  • @AD-mj9oh
    @AD-mj9oh Před 3 lety +1

    awesome job Ben- thank you so much !!!

  • @tammydeason5690
    @tammydeason5690 Před 2 lety +3

    Taking this video to my hairdresser. Love it

  • @mandymoonstar2680
    @mandymoonstar2680 Před 2 lety +2

    This guy did an awesome job. Perfect. I'm an old hairdresser and this is what I've tried to get done over the past month. What a hot mess they made and no one knows what they are doing. I may end up doing it myself although I have extremely heavy course hair. Love how the video was presented. Thanks!!

  • @DanielKing92
    @DanielKing92 Před 2 lety

    You’re a very good hairdresser!! So consistent throughout and very informative 👍

  • @muffyfishbasket2563
    @muffyfishbasket2563 Před 2 lety +2

    I LOVE THIS!!! can't wait to try it

  • @vilmamontano9977
    @vilmamontano9977 Před 2 lety

    Just gorgeously done!

  • @melodykromnavas
    @melodykromnavas Před 3 lety +8

    Amazing job! Beautiful video. Getting this haircut done professionally in a few days so I hope the hairdresser is as awesome as you are 🥰

    • @debbieburkland1727
      @debbieburkland1727 Před rokem

      How did it go with the hairdresser copying this cut, im going to give it to a stylist to watch- hoping it turns out like this

  • @ciliakatherinecampovasquez8086

    Omg 😱 what a beautiful haircut, You are such a good teacher.

  • @lisavivola5988
    @lisavivola5988 Před 2 lety +2

    I love this haircut!!!!!

  • @heatherp2054
    @heatherp2054 Před 2 lety +3

    This is a fantastic video! I have been wearing a shag for about 15 years because it just happens to be the cut that goes best with my type of hair and texture. I think I could probably do it myself after watching this. It’s perfect!

  • @rhondamoffit6490
    @rhondamoffit6490 Před 2 lety

    YOUR EDUCATION IS AMAZING!!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHARING!!!

  • @luisirizarry2914
    @luisirizarry2914 Před 3 lety +2

    Fabulous haircut, bravo!

  • @pffftt1234
    @pffftt1234 Před 3 lety +4

    This is the cut of my dreams!

  • @jodielea73
    @jodielea73 Před 3 lety

    Absolutely LOVE this!!! 😍😍😍

  • @Bloquita5
    @Bloquita5 Před 3 lety +1

    Wow! Love it! Thank you. 🙏🏽

  • @rachelroos5480
    @rachelroos5480 Před 11 měsíci

    Love this...great haircut...did it on myself and I love it..thank you so much!

  • @thalyeller
    @thalyeller Před 2 lety

    You're an artist!! Bravo 😍

  • @stephanieikonomou9453
    @stephanieikonomou9453 Před 8 měsíci

    please this is perfectly executed ! well done

  • @lalawynn
    @lalawynn Před 2 lety

    You Sir have been the best Teacher 👌🏼..... took your time and straight to the point 👉

  • @alexanderreeveshamilton3577

    Love the technique, beautiful job . really appreciate the video

  • @didyouknow4777
    @didyouknow4777 Před 11 měsíci +1

    He’s a great teacher

  • @marcellowoodford4048
    @marcellowoodford4048 Před 6 měsíci

    Excellent tutorial,Thank you!

  • @sylviasaucedo7824
    @sylviasaucedo7824 Před 2 lety

    I had this hair cut in the 70s. Loved it. Now my grand daughter wants thid cut

  • @dyanswill
    @dyanswill Před 6 měsíci

    BEAUTIFUL!! I'M GOING TO TRY THIS!!

  • @IlovethesIlovethes
    @IlovethesIlovethes Před 3 lety +1

    You are a brilliant artist job well done

  • @alyssamanning3125
    @alyssamanning3125 Před rokem

    I love this! Thank you for this!!

  • @sierakh8249
    @sierakh8249 Před rokem

    Thanks for sharing your knowledge, Great clam video and no music, fantastic.

  • @ishouldbesleeping1354

    Stunning. LOVE IT!

  • @MommaVapesBeauty
    @MommaVapesBeauty Před 2 lety +1

    Oh my gosh I want his hair cut 😯 the perfect shag!!

  • @arthemisechevarie5753

    I’ve been looking for this haircut for the last 11 years.No one knows this hair cut where i’m at.Luvely cut U know what ur doin!❤😊

  • @ameridiem
    @ameridiem Před rokem

    Really very beautiful haircut!💖

  • @sharonbell8895
    @sharonbell8895 Před 3 lety

    Great video thank you I love this style

  • @nessamartinez2885
    @nessamartinez2885 Před 2 lety +1

    This is so beautiful!!!

  • @vividhaircolor
    @vividhaircolor Před 2 lety

    This video is so helpful, thanks for sharing!

  • @cowleyscorners7736
    @cowleyscorners7736 Před rokem

    That man is an artist period.😊

  • @festivelady826
    @festivelady826 Před 3 lety +3

    @Ben Brown Bbeducation: You need to show the link of the first shag video you did on the silver hair! It is absolutely PERFECT because I had this haircut in the '70's and you are spot on! It's a full video that one can take to one's hairdresser to get it perfect!!