Peachtree Carina BT Integrated Amplifier review vs. NAD M10 = Battle of the NCore's.

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  • čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
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Komentáře • 54

  • @d.n.a5415
    @d.n.a5415 Před rokem +6

    Great Review! Peachtree is a great company. I had the Nova300 and I think they are Great integrated amp for the price. Great recommended starter hifi amp. I think you have a great channel and one of the most underrated hifi reviewer on CZcams. If you can manage and grow without receiving review gears from hifi manufacturers, I think you’ll be the most trusted hifi reviewer on CZcams. Great review!

    • @2ChannelListening
      @2ChannelListening  Před rokem

      I appreciate your kind words DNA. I'm not saying one shouldn't except a product from a manufacturer as long as there is an understanding that there is no benefit to reviewer - especially in the case of Direct to Consumer models like ZU, Tekton, Aperion Audio and Ascend Acoustics to name a few. Aperion Audio sent me the Novus N6T and surprisingly agreed to let me try the V8B when I asked for them - they were a good sport about my less than stellar endorsement. At the end of the day, I'm going to say what I am going to say! Thanks for watching sir!

  • @peterlundskow4061
    @peterlundskow4061 Před rokem +4

    I bought a NAD M10 used 4 months ago in great condition for a super fair price. I have been happy with it for all the reasons you mention. I do sometime notice those issues that you mention about volume. I play it trough a pair of Triangle Bro 3's and a pair of vintage Electro-voice Aristocrats, the 3 Way version, I inherited from my Dad with pleasing results!

    • @2ChannelListening
      @2ChannelListening  Před rokem +1

      Hello Peter, thank you for sharing your experiences. Yeah, I would say those 16 ohm speakers probably get a great exercise under your care. I wonder how the NAD behaves with a 16 ohm speaker. I appreciate you watching. Its nice to experience vintage with modern, is it not?

  • @williammorales8204
    @williammorales8204 Před rokem +3

    I appreciate when a reviewer has something negative to say, shows he's not all in on kissing brands butt.

  • @seanjoell
    @seanjoell Před rokem +3

    Great review! Thanks for the in-depth info on this product. P.S. keep it coming we need more information on this stuff (and there comps).

  • @MakingaStink
    @MakingaStink Před rokem +1

    Just upgraded from my 15 year old Nova to the Carina, without a listen. Hoping I’ll be happy, I trust I will be, the filters sound a tad overwhelming to wrap my head around, but I think I’ll live.

    • @2ChannelListening
      @2ChannelListening  Před rokem +2

      Congrats with your upgrade - Carina will sound very different, smother with all that power. The filters are easy enough to adjust, I wouldn't over think it, pick what sounds the best across the board and forget about it. Check back in after you put a couple weeks of listening in. Cheers.

  • @kirkaparty4143
    @kirkaparty4143 Před rokem +4

    Nice discussion, would like your input on GaN1 vs the others

    • @2ChannelListening
      @2ChannelListening  Před rokem +4

      I have yet to close the loop with Purifi modules. I would still love to hear a Billy amp and Rogue Pharoah to get a feel for some tube hybrid class D. B&O ICE modules are pretty old now, but still have a powerful smoothness to them, I would say the least mid-range focus of all the modules I have heard.
      UCD Hypex would be next for mellowness, balanced presentation, but not as focused and does not dig as deep into the layers. I have not experienced fatigue with Hypex and found the NAD C388 to be a terrific budget integrated amplifier with lots of grunt.
      I'm putting NCore higher up the chain only because of what I heard from Carina and how impressed I was with its top to bottom evenhanded treatment of sonics. I think the higher power modules are the way to go, I just don't believe the module in my NAD M10 was really 100 watts per channel. That's conjecture without instrument proof, just years of experience with all manner of amps and speaker efficiency pairings.
      Right now, until I hear a Purifi derived amp, I'm putting the GANFET amp module at the top of all class D amps I have heard, and that includes pieces from Esoteric and Red Dragon. The GaN400 amp has not shown the high frequency roll off weaknesses or masking mid-range fullness. I have not tried Peachtree's GaN1 due to its single digital input only nature. I can only share that I have heard zero complaints about its sound.

  • @bobihadzikimov7823
    @bobihadzikimov7823 Před rokem +3

    Love the channel. This is not all in one solution unless you want to use bluetooth only. Digital only. Sounds amazing though. I think that power rating on this amplifier is wayyy overrated. My 40 wpc tube integrated amplifier sounds much powerful.

    • @2ChannelListening
      @2ChannelListening  Před rokem +1

      Thank you for watching and commenting. I know how tubes can do that!

  • @emailkenny
    @emailkenny Před 8 měsíci

    I have a Peachtree Decco Sky 125. I was advised that they ran into collaboration issues during the pandemic that ended the WiFi module. It’s unfortunate that the WiFi is now external only. Nonetheless Peachtree is still hard to beat in terms of RMS & price point. However, I’m hard pressed to buy an integrated that doesn’t have built in WiFi.

  • @bigjay1970
    @bigjay1970 Před rokem +1

    Very high quality opening music. Wish most music artist's sounded so good!😝

    • @2ChannelListening
      @2ChannelListening  Před rokem

      Right?!

    • @bigjay1970
      @bigjay1970 Před rokem +1

      @@2ChannelListening
      I meant that your opening music in this last video really sounded great with my earbuds.🤔😬 I notice these things!😝

  • @rickp6731
    @rickp6731 Před rokem +2

    All new Soulnote Integrated amps are amazing

  • @bugpack6
    @bugpack6 Před 7 měsíci

    With Apple you can set up a focus mode and get Zero alerts while listening. That’s what I’ve done.

  • @abacar6134
    @abacar6134 Před rokem +1

    The Carina’s are on sale for $1599.00 brand new! I just bought one!

    • @2ChannelListening
      @2ChannelListening  Před rokem +1

      Seriously? I have to go check! Thanks.

    • @abacar6134
      @abacar6134 Před rokem

      @@2ChannelListening $1599 for the black and $1699 for the ebony mocha.

  • @MrTeko75
    @MrTeko75 Před rokem +2

    Great review man!

  • @charleskatz2606
    @charleskatz2606 Před rokem +1

    Jason this amp seems to ahve some virtue but a number of limitations.Your video and your experience makes me think you'd be the guy to review the NAD C298 185 wpc Purifi amps and well as the Starkrimson n150 wpc Gan Monoblocks which seem to be a real value @$1600

    • @2ChannelListening
      @2ChannelListening  Před rokem

      The Starkrimson are interesting indeed at $1600. I think I would buy the NAD M23 as an open box before spending $2400 for the C298. Thanks for the compliment CK.

  • @MisterTwister222
    @MisterTwister222 Před rokem +2

    thank god they left out the phono section. I am extremely pleased they the spent money on other sections such as the volume control. Volume control is a dirty forgotten area most manufactures gloss over and forget about. Any manufacturer that even mentions the volume control system they use gets my attention. You really dont understand volume control if you dont know what those relays do with the clicks and why they use them. Digital volume control is the cheap and easy, lazy, and mediocre method most manufactures implement.

  • @frankoo928
    @frankoo928 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Wow, awsome review! Thx

  • @Jil8840
    @Jil8840 Před 3 měsíci

    Is there sound test comparison???

  • @janulik9535
    @janulik9535 Před 10 měsíci +1

    again good review which kind of gives me information which i need

  • @dougk3905
    @dougk3905 Před rokem +1

    Carina vs NAD C399 would be a better comparison. C399 has more power than M10

    • @2ChannelListening
      @2ChannelListening  Před rokem

      True enough, I just wrapped up the C388 a month earlier. Not possible to have every new iteration, nevertheless, the more expensive M10 shouldn't be this far off when paired with tougher speakers. The C399 "could" be the better amp than the M10.

  • @delvalle9256
    @delvalle9256 Před rokem +1

    How are the new aperion bookshelves .

  • @rawbrian1
    @rawbrian1 Před rokem +1

    I think a $4500 peachtree integrated wouldn’t fit in their standard case. They would have to pay to tool a bigger case. I think they should put a slot in the back of the unit to install phono option that’s worthy. Otherwise a really good phono section would increase the price too much. Let’s face it, if you don’t already have a record collection you’re not going to get into it. Records are too damn expensive these days.

    • @2ChannelListening
      @2ChannelListening  Před rokem +1

      Certainly they would have to adopt a two layer system like other brands, but you are more than likely right. Andrew Clark mentioned space was a challenge. The price of records is why I have never made the leap! Thanks for watching.

    • @newdevilman1167
      @newdevilman1167 Před rokem

      I had Decco 125 with phono built in, I had to turn off the wifi to listen to turntable due to signal noise.
      Still pretty great experience.

    • @lsaideOK
      @lsaideOK Před rokem +1

      ​@@2ChannelListening You have all this super expensive gear and $25 records are too much to bear? If that's how things work, I will keep my $1,000 amp and continue buying records! Having the physical album itself gives me almost as much joy as listening to the music. But I'm older than you. So there's that. Still have my original copy of magical mystery tour with its incredible insert. So, yeah this integrated is a non-starter for me. Have you looked at the Heaven 11 Billie? Or any such hybrid integrated amplifiers?

    • @2ChannelListening
      @2ChannelListening  Před rokem

      @@lsaideOK Hello Larry, I have looked at the Heaven MKII and am waiting for second hand sales. Where are you finding $25 records worth a darn? Most of the progrock albums I would want are well north of $30, in some cases north of $100. I'm also very impatient, I do not have hardly any spare time for the fun of enjoying the ritual of vinyl - maybe someday I can slow down and worry about drag rate, cartridge loading and the 1,000 hr window of stylus loss.
      I appreciate your feedback and I understand how folks are dedicated to specific formats. Different priorities...Cheers.

  • @thomaskahalepuna9604
    @thomaskahalepuna9604 Před rokem

    Is it the Gan technology too?

  • @turiddu9
    @turiddu9 Před rokem +1

    Bro, you're comparing a 100 watt amp to a 300 watt amp..... Did you expect them to be at all comparable? You're going to here a significantly higher, cleaner SPL with the higher power!

    • @2ChannelListening
      @2ChannelListening  Před rokem +3

      The M10 is a $3000 integrated with NCore modules, Peachtree showed up with more power, it’s that simple. Arguably some would say the Naim Unity still sounds better and it only has 40 watts. Are you saying it shouldn’t be considered for comparison?

    • @turiddu9
      @turiddu9 Před rokem +1

      @@2ChannelListening no brother, but mentioning the superiority over 85 db SPL of the Peachtree over the NAD is a bit obvious for an amplifier of three times the power. It just pointing point something that should be self evident even just by reading the specs….

    • @2ChannelListening
      @2ChannelListening  Před rokem +1

      @@turiddu9 Salvatore, I beg to differ. Speaker synergy plays a huge part, especially efficiency rating. Go listen to the demo video I made with my 12 watt EL84 amp on the Philharmonic BMR's. I recorded that at 87 db and the Erik S Concept tube amp sounds wonderful...

    • @newdevilman1167
      @newdevilman1167 Před rokem

      Great review. I am thinking of pairing Carina with SuperMon Mini from Mon Acoustic for PC-Fi set up. With a sub. Will be interesting.

  • @dbg317
    @dbg317 Před rokem

    somehow this box looks comically huge

    • @2ChannelListening
      @2ChannelListening  Před rokem

      Interesting 🤔 perspective. 14” wide, 13” deep at the posts.