Don't Create Music... Create Sounds! | Thomann Synthesizers
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- čas přidán 19. 06. 2024
- Today we're having a look at why it can sometimes be helpful to not sit down to write music, but just to create sounds. With this more modest goal in mind your gonna be more likely to do more interesting experimentation in your sound design with the added benefit of improving your workflow the next time you actually sit down with the aim of creating music.
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Nord Drum: thmn.to/thoprod/386116?offid=...
Strymon El Capistan: thmn.to/thoprod/252095?offid=...
Echoplex Preamp: thmn.to/thoprod/333361?offid=...
MXR Flanger: thmn.to/thoprod/160043?offid=...
Interesting bits and pieces:
0:00 Intro
1:42 Sound Design Session
7:28 Sound Design Ideas
11:45 Outro
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days for sound design, days for making music, days for recording your music, days for practicing your instruments. and the occasional days for doing nothing too.
Reminds me of ideas posted few years ago by Ill Gates, who talks about separating "night time sessions" from "day time sessions": it's not so much about when that happens (day vs. night), but about how much time / potential distraction you have in front of you.
If you have only a couple of hours and risk being interrupted, then go for a sound design session - like we see in this video. In this kind of session, your only goal is to find and capture sounds that are interesting to you at that particular moment. You're not thinking about composition or even music theory - you're just trying to capture the moment "on tape".
But when you have more time in front of you (four hours and beyond) AND don't risk being interrupted (typically when other people sleep or when you can turn off your smartphone and cutoff the internet without setting your social or day-job opportunities in jeopardy), then you can have a real music-making session: sequencing, mixing, arrangement. Your focus here is about generating / creating not sounds but songs - or whatever is the equivalent in electronic music :)
It's a very simple and productive way to work. It's an important part of my workflow and I have Ill Gates to thank for that tip (never met the guy, but I have to thank his videos for inspiring me as Felix did here).
Ill Gates is a rapper?
John Cage speaks on this mindset a lot. silence is a must read
Love the 4:3 video production style ❤
On a side note: The background music in the beginning of the video somehow reminds of the background music of "Resident Evil" when you are in a safe place (the "typewriter" room). 😉
"Don't Create Music... Create Sounds!" - I LOVE THIS CONCEPT!
This is a great tip, I have started doing this myself. Build a library of sounds that you can draw from.
Totally agree with this method! I works really good for me when I dont have a clear idea.
Love this 🙏 Respect!
Great video! Inspiring
It's fun as I re-discovered this way of working when starting this CZcams channel and Patreon sample pack. I end using the sample pack I give all the time in my tracks hahaha.
Thanks for to show your skill bro!!!
nice suggestion !!! thank you!
Synth Jesus spreading the gospel once again. 🙏🙌
Good stuff, need to check the nord drum 🥁
116 and rising in the background! what a compilation
Krrrr, sssspth, gerrrrrrrr, kerplou! Just a few of my favorite sounds.
Sound is all around you capture them and bend them to your will 🤘🏽
makin me want to buss out the nord drum
I always end up having my best songs when I just played with sounds and had fun with them
Good advice
Would you talk about using vocoded drums?
Thanks
way better with the german accent. thanks!
I totally get the point of this separation, because I experience the sound design vs. Composition dilemma all the time... but still my problem with this approach is that you're sort of limited to a certain kind of crafted sounds, if you want to ensure the compatibility with any tempo & rhythmical structure. Any advice? ✌
Just keep tweaking and saving snapshots/presets. Only worry about the sound being interesing. Worry about anything else later and you may find you come up with something very different to your normal way of working
that's the best part: you just don't care. you record your sounds and try to shoehorn them into something else later. fun things happen once you have to start manipulating audio to get it to fit into something and it gives it character that wouldn't otherwise be there
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@Ann Other Thats totally true aswell and I love the sampling thing an it's unexpected results a lot, but if you look at it that way it's not quite an alternative to crafting the sound you need, the moment you need it in composition...
What’s your favourite VST versions of these FX units that do similar things?
check out tantra 2, or infiltrator from devious music....:)
Inspired by this video, I used Microtonic as drum machine and Antresol, Chrystalizer and comback kid as fx´s.
Is Ableton sending MIDI to the Nord drum?
hey !! i really want to get one of the Nord drum series, but I don't know the difference between this nord drum 2 and the new nord 3p
Isn't the nord 3p same machine but with extra pads to play on ?
3p has pads and effects, stereo outs and 6 note polyphony. 2 has four note polyphony and individual outs.
@@pdm67 Not quite correct. The 2 also has 6 poly - I think it's the first ND you're thinking of.
The 2 has extra synthesis options and does have some FX but lacks the reverb on the 3 (which a lot of people don't like). It doesnt have the built in pads but they can be added as a separate device.
The 2 is widely regarded as the best not least because it's so compact considering how powerful it is. But I really like them both. Highly underrated.
Could you link the video for the drum processing you mentioned :)
czcams.com/video/X1zfcI8e7mY/video.html Here you go :) It's now also in the description. Thx for the reminder.
Josh Wink thought it had a lovely sound too......
macht er 👍
I only make sound, according to my wife. Actually she calls it horrible noise 😆
What do you think is better for a beginner. Spending 1k on ableton with say push, or get a drum machine and some effects/ synthesizers?
Depends on your workflow. If you like to spend your time in front of a computer monitor, use Ableton or any other daw. That’s the cheaper way to start anyway. But if you are like me who prefers to get his hands on hardware then go that way. Just keep in mind it will be way more expensive and you need more space to set up your gear.
If you just want to try out what fits you better get for example Akai Beats for free. You only need a MIDI-keyboard/controller to get started. Speaking of MIDI-keyboards, most of them provide you a free Ableton Live Lite license, too.
Depends on what you aim for. Ableton + Push is gonna give you a much wider set of tools. Doing with hardware, what Ableton can do would cost you millions.
However maybe you might be the kind of person thats more inspired by hardware and it‘s more tactile workflow. But to figure that out takes time and experimentation.
How r u triggering the Nord Drum?
Ableton Midi Clip
had to laugh about the individual outputs of the norddrum, that you don’t
use …😁 otherwise: cool video!
those are not outs, they are inputs for drum pads
@@bach2097 i know. that’s why I had to laugh 😉
Lol tru, as you can see I never gave these ports a second though. Maybe not even a first one :D
a day to do nothing is important also. to clear your head a bit.
The guy makes me nervous, with his fast fingermovements
vor allem schon seit jahren meine rede ! aber mir wollte ja immer keiner glauben ...
"I will record it on one track, not individual outputs.." - The Nord Drum 2 doesn't have individual outputs!
Not giving away these samples maybe does encourage some ppl but those who have no equipment like this probably curse you.
Everything demonstrated here could be done with plug ins and the build in audio effects of any DAW. No equipment is no excuse here.
However you will find some of the samples in the description of our videos on the Moog DFAM and the Make Noise Strega.
@@ThomannSynthesizers I disagree, because that equipment has no emulations. There is other equipment in plugin form, with similar or that type of specifications - I must admit. I get your motivation (for encouragement) but why not share sample which can give someone inspiration in many other forms? It was my only thought really…after watching that video.
hey I only do this 😀 then afterwards I think: Man, that sounds like shit ... why have I again invested 20k into this hobby? 😀
Nooo. Making weird noises is its own pursuit. I love it.
alot of people would argue to NOT make sounds but to make actual music instead
Sound design is not for everyone . Some people are just lazy or don't have the .intelligence. to make sounds
What's the cassette tapes doing there? A bit too pretentious for my tastes.
It's almost like video is a medium in which visuals matter. You may find that shocking.
@@lucaslorenz8812 ^^
Lol, pretentious, u see it all don't u xD
@@lucaslorenz8812 Imagine what his videos look like ... synth surrounded with some stained underpants, a bit of cat litter and a pizza box instead of a succulent.
Das ist fleissiges Drehreglerregeln. Mehr nicht. Was ist daran kreativ? Mit Musik hat das rein gar nix zu tun...
geh Blockflöte spielen Opa
No, kid. Learn and create music. Anyone can fart on a mic, click on a plugin or turn a knob. We have enough of that already.
You didn't even watch 30 seconds into the video and it shows.
anyone can "learn and create music" as well