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  • @ivarlosna6516
    @ivarlosna6516 Před 3 lety +251

    Middle English makes a lot more sense when it comes to the connection between writing and pronunciation.

    • @davidayarra3129
      @davidayarra3129 Před 3 lety +20

      Yes and no, around this time english and even anglo before it didn't have a standard way of spelling words, that is to say that each person or region had a completely different way of spelling words phoneticaly based on how they heard or pronounced it.

    • @TheMrPeteChannel
      @TheMrPeteChannel Před 3 lety +8

      some letters became silent in words. Knife once sounded like Ka-nith.

    • @micayahritchie7158
      @micayahritchie7158 Před 2 lety +1

      @Local83 Problem with that is that English isn't pronounced one way. It's way too big a language for that. Short of making a new writing system that acknowledge all vowel mergers and splits in every dialect and somehow writes intrusive and missing letters in some dialects different from others it's straight up impossible. Like you'd have to have a symbol for all the ways to pronounce r and two separate versions as well for when it isn't pronounced after vowels. You'd need a symbol for t that's realized as a tap in American dialects that would have no difference from the basic t. And don't even get started on talking about the English of the Caribbean with reduced 5 vowels from Englishes RP's 13 how do you represent that. Or worse yet West African or Hong Kong English that's tonal how do you deal with that. Let's not even get started on the unique dialects from contact situations AAVE for example or the madness that is northern English moving into Scots. And if you consider that many English creoles consider themselves valid English in a mesolect form then really you've just got a headache to deal with and you'd be much better just using glyphs instead

    • @jakubrejzekjunior7349
      @jakubrejzekjunior7349 Před 2 lety +1

      @@micayahritchie7158 You just expand the alphabet a bit. 42-100 letters in total could be enough if you didn´t add nonsense like "adding unspoken letter" or changing the letter a bit cause it sounds a bit different at the end of some words (like V in germen where it was written as s at the end of words). Anything more is no longer supported by human vocal cords. (You´ve literally ran out of sounds to make if you used the letter system)

    • @asiyaheibhlin
      @asiyaheibhlin Před 2 lety +4

      That is because the Great Vowel Shift wasn't in full-force yet.😭

  • @Gilboron
    @Gilboron Před 3 lety +231

    As a Dutch speaker, I think Middle English sounds a lot like if you just pronounced English with Dutch phonetics, which makes this sound a lot more comical to me than what was probably intended

    • @ashamansedai
      @ashamansedai Před 3 lety +16

      To me it sounds like a mix of german and someone reading english words in spanish.

    • @salsicha5305
      @salsicha5305 Před 3 lety +19

      @@ashamansedai Of course, as a native Portuguese speaker, Middle English sounds like the way we pronounce English before learning how completely unrelated English spelling and pronunciation are

    • @redwind1850
      @redwind1850 Před 3 lety +2

      Same in Italian

    • @stephanmast.8634
      @stephanmast.8634 Před 3 lety +5

      Probably because our and the english language have been related since the first saxons came ashore of the Isle.

    • @XJacksonvilleX
      @XJacksonvilleX Před 2 lety

      Dutch's so fuckin old that it sounds like 600 years ago

  • @redwind1850
    @redwind1850 Před 3 lety +65

    As an Italian speaker, I now wish so bad Middle English was still used. At least pronunciation used to make sense.

  • @stephanie4698
    @stephanie4698 Před 2 lety +19

    I wish this was the version of English spoken today. It's so beautiful.

    • @Monkeyman-pt6gs
      @Monkeyman-pt6gs Před rokem +3

      I wouldn’t say it’s beautiful, but at least they pronounce things how they’re spelled, unlike Modern English

    • @ashwinpokhrel7809
      @ashwinpokhrel7809 Před rokem +1

      Even if this was modern English it would just be normal to me and you so I wouldn't call it beautiful.

  • @DocKrazy
    @DocKrazy Před 3 lety +41

    "what if english was phonetically consistent"
    Old and middle english: what do you mean "if"?

    • @bacicinvatteneaca
      @bacicinvatteneaca Před 6 měsíci

      Well, like all written languages on earth, they were far from perfectly consistent, but at least there was rules for which there to be exceptions 😅

  • @morteparla6926
    @morteparla6926 Před 3 lety +123

    Old English sounds very Germanic, while Middle English sounds very Latin, and both Germanic and Latin languages play very large roles in the modern English language, so we can see at which points in history each language made it's contribution.

    • @anglishbookcraft1516
      @anglishbookcraft1516 Před 3 lety +6

      Actually French had no outcome on the outspeech of English, also not to bring up that French has a Germanic outspeech too though it is Latin.

    • @dethararjusinnessjukt5408
      @dethararjusinnessjukt5408 Před 3 lety

      I mean yeah english Is a germanic but maybe half latin?

    • @silvergunn9354
      @silvergunn9354 Před 2 lety +1

      @@dethararjusinnessjukt5408 English has more Latin words than Germanic however it's considered a West Germanic language because of the positioning of the verbs, adjectives and all the other categories that I can never understand. However historians have recently suggested that it might be a North Germanic language, closer related to Swedish and Norwegian than German.

    • @Zephialx
      @Zephialx Před 2 lety +8

      @@silvergunn9354 There are no serious linguists that suggest English is a North Germanic language. It is very clearly descended from the ancestors of the low german dialects. There is a LOT of Old Norse influence on English but that in no way makes a North Germanic language any more than the Norman and Old French influence makes it a Romance language. To be fair, English does seem more superficially similar to Norwegian than it does to German, but that's not because it's more closely related to Norwegian. German just evolved in a different direction than did English. And German is not the only West Germanic language. Frisian is far more similar to English and the area where Frisian is spoken today is not coincidentally the region where many of the original germanic colonizers of the British isles came from.

    • @chrisholland7367
      @chrisholland7367 Před 2 lety

      It's germanic Saxon

  • @016329
    @016329 Před rokem +4

    This shows how things like the vowel shift really fucked over our once phonetic spelling…

  • @aureusyarara
    @aureusyarara Před 3 lety +76

    oh wow, suddenly the spelling of words makes SO MUCH SENSE. what happened afterwards????

    • @stevevagabond
      @stevevagabond  Před 3 lety +48

      The pronunciation changed but we still spell like we did in Middle English times. Its a disaster :D

    • @Nick-us8qh
      @Nick-us8qh Před 3 lety +26

      The Great Vowel Shift happened!

    • @Zyhmet
      @Zyhmet Před 3 lety +27

      Middle English basically is Modern English but with German pronunciation :P

    • @user-un5xj1wl6p
      @user-un5xj1wl6p Před 3 lety +9

      The great vowel shift fucked us over didn't it?

    • @ivarlosna6516
      @ivarlosna6516 Před 3 lety +12

      @@Nick-us8qh The great vowel disaster.

  • @pewpew9193
    @pewpew9193 Před rokem +4

    Could you imagine time traveling & trying to have a conversation with someone speaking Middle English?

  • @troodon1096
    @troodon1096 Před 2 lety +8

    I want a T-shirt that says "paineth thee namoore."

  • @iknowiknowwhereiam8802
    @iknowiknowwhereiam8802 Před 3 lety +34

    It’s such a beautiful song and you can still get the gist even if you can’t pick up every word. Well done

  • @raymondraptorclaw2901
    @raymondraptorclaw2901 Před rokem +3

    I have graduated from Modern English with the highest grade in my class(no joke), now I’m learning how we all used to speak.

  • @literally-just-a-leaf
    @literally-just-a-leaf Před 11 měsíci +4

    Even if the spoken language is quite different to modern English (thank you great vowel shift /s) the written word is similar enough that you can at least get a general gist of it

  • @dethararjusinnessjukt5408

    Me being a swede I can understand some and because It sounded very germanic back then kind of.

  • @recon441
    @recon441 Před 3 lety +11

    Never stop making these!

  • @afghan1mystery
    @afghan1mystery Před 3 lety +1

    This is so good!!! Love it

  • @Shinobi33
    @Shinobi33 Před 2 lety +3

    Awesome. Just adds so much dimension and life to an already beautiful song.

  • @anitaninkovic5194
    @anitaninkovic5194 Před 2 lety +2

    Awesome work! i remember lessons in Middle English and it's great to hear it sang!

  • @FredericEffe
    @FredericEffe Před 3 lety +4

    Bardcore mastery and so nice to hear some old medieval english. Congrats ! :)

  • @MrEsChannelYT
    @MrEsChannelYT Před 3 lety +1

    Incredible work

  • @gryphon0468
    @gryphon0468 Před 3 lety +7

    Good shit man!

  • @lalaland956
    @lalaland956 Před rokem +1

    This is beautiful thank you for sharing

  • @user-ir1bl3ol5z
    @user-ir1bl3ol5z Před 3 lety +2

    why are these sooooo good like wtf XD i love these

  • @Krushtykon
    @Krushtykon Před 3 lety +2

    Amazing!

  • @chrisholland7367
    @chrisholland7367 Před 2 lety +1

    Fantastic 👍

  • @belisarius1
    @belisarius1 Před 3 lety +24

    Sounds like Middle English you just read and pronounce all the letters in spelling, like you would in the transliterated phonetic vocabulary of languages say in the Pacific. Eg examples here like "syde" "sai-dee" and "seye" "sei-ee". Unlike today where there are so much silent letters ('syde' to 'side' ie "sai-d" . It's like if old spelling were generally kept similar, but the pronunciation and enunciation of syllables changed ie silent letters etc. It's like as if the olden folks really spelled the way it was meant to be pronounced.

    • @stevevagabond
      @stevevagabond  Před 3 lety +26

      Before English was standardised people just wrote how things sounded

    • @sethlangston181
      @sethlangston181 Před 3 lety +9

      The main reason why English sounds so drastically different today is because it underwent the Great Vowel Shift, when the pronunciation of long vowels changed to become more like how they are pronounced today.

  • @HeptaLanguages
    @HeptaLanguages Před 3 lety +3

    i do enjoy all your work and i really hope u start doing sth with shakespear's playwrights someday too!

  • @zapierspiderhdx3930
    @zapierspiderhdx3930 Před rokem +2

    As someone who speaks German as a second language i was able to perfectly understand and pronounce the words

  • @vtechk
    @vtechk Před 3 lety +3

    very cool

  • @TheHorrorDevotee
    @TheHorrorDevotee Před 3 lety +4

    Kind of reminds me of Scots

  • @regular-joe
    @regular-joe Před 3 lety +14

    Beautiful, fascinating, very well done! And - random question here.... there're no dots above the lower case letters i - was that an historical actual thing, or a stylistic choice for the video? Many thanks for sharing!

  • @pmac5934
    @pmac5934 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Lift up your voice , minstrel ! It is sweet , as a throstle must tune its throat . Much thanks .

  • @Harjawaldar
    @Harjawaldar Před 3 lety +1

    haha, this is great!

  • @georgehaggett9433
    @georgehaggett9433 Před 3 lety

    Well met!!!

  • @kurtmcfc1629
    @kurtmcfc1629 Před 3 lety +6

    Middle English closer to German or dutch than modern English

    • @kurtmcfc1629
      @kurtmcfc1629 Před rokem

      @@ASS_ault Гребаные русские

    • @WGGplant
      @WGGplant Před 16 dny

      Literally not true. English had already lost gender and most cases by then. And it had already adopted tons of french vocabulary.
      The main difference bt ME and modern Eng is literally some relativly minor vocab and some easy to understand sound changes. Old English was more like the other germanic languages than Modern English tho.

  • @hirencorn2313
    @hirencorn2313 Před 3 lety +15

    Why do I learn eald englisc, this is quite easier (ic ne wāt hweat)

  • @Shadawg666
    @Shadawg666 Před 3 lety +47

    Mom opened the door
    Switched quick to porn
    Easier to explain
    lol seriously tho this is awesome dude looking forward to more songs :D

  • @canardgibus4078
    @canardgibus4078 Před 3 lety +17

    Pretty weird that english didn't have aspirated consonants back then. Sounds more like old french than a germanic language.

    • @waltergro9102
      @waltergro9102 Před 2 lety +7

      Aspiration appeared first in southern West Germanic and spread northward. It was the phonological reason for the High German Consonant Shift. Meantime the stops of all Germanic languages and dialects got aspirated - with the exception of Dutch and Low Rhenish. Thus there is the latent trend of shifting to fricatives respectively affricates, especially t > ts (z in German spelling) and k > ch.

  • @carlosfelipearaujo
    @carlosfelipearaujo Před 3 lety +5

    Spotify it!!!

  • @EngPheniks
    @EngPheniks Před 3 lety +3

    It has Germanic Anglo-Saxon influence

  • @cartylaser2864
    @cartylaser2864 Před 3 lety +7

    I was shocked to see they didn't have words for orders of triple magnitude above a thousand. I mean, I do suppose that they didn't need vastly small orders of magnitude as I don't think they knew jack about cells and molecules and the like, or large orders of magnitude for modern cosmology or the long geologic history in the timeline of nature. But still.

  • @kranseline
    @kranseline Před 2 lety +2

    Middle English is very similar to Norwegian.

  • @duxandrespasha
    @duxandrespasha Před 2 lety +1

    Do you take requests?
    "Someone Like You" is my favorite Adele.

  • @agatitytube
    @agatitytube Před 3 lety +4

    Naise mooveng pictoore, fiend.

  • @LuciaSims745
    @LuciaSims745 Před 2 měsíci

    Is this Early middle English? I see a difference between this Middle English and the one from pumped up kicks

  • @alipanroosendaal9503
    @alipanroosendaal9503 Před 2 lety +1

    Sounds similar to the way the Flemish speak, now.

  • @michellechat4317
    @michellechat4317 Před 14 dny

    The French influence is huge. A French native speaker with NO knowledge of more modern English prononciation would pronounce it that way. Even some words are right out French spelled, like "lettres".

  • @doringheorghe9267
    @doringheorghe9267 Před 3 lety +4

    It sounds like my worst English lesson classmates reading a text without having a clue about the pronunciation. I discover after all these years that they were actually reading in 1200s English 🤣🤣🤣 (native Romanian speaker)

  • @Johnm.499
    @Johnm.499 Před rokem

    the only thing that is maybe bad about this is that the thumbnail is of
    "the Sutton Hoo helmet".

  • @asor4653
    @asor4653 Před 3 lety +4

    The biggest question is: Why English swallowed the "e" at the end of word, at the first place?

    • @stevevagabond
      @stevevagabond  Před 3 lety +6

      English is a stressed language. An example of that is the word "photography". It sounds more like "fuh-tog-ruh-fee". It is not "foe-toe-grah-fee". The "tog" part is stressed so it gets the full sound. Unstressed syllables get reduced to "uh" like the "fuh" in photography. The -e in a lot of English words used to be pronounced like the "e" in "egg" and then it became "uh" over time because it was unstressed. Unstressed sounds tend to get "weaker" (i.e. e -> "uh") and eventually disappear all together. It's a natural process in languages

    • @jamescalhoun418
      @jamescalhoun418 Před 3 lety +2

      @@stevevagabond we can see this process midway through in modern german and french.

  • @Kadukunahaluu
    @Kadukunahaluu Před rokem

    I just realized: why the hell do we pronounce "have" as "hav" and not "hayv"? "Hah-veh" makes a lot more sense

  • @MythicsV
    @MythicsV Před 2 lety

    What the heck i can understand it but it sounds weird

  • @chloevitagliano9565
    @chloevitagliano9565 Před 3 lety +4

    This sounds like English pronounced like Italian

    • @016329
      @016329 Před 2 lety +1

      You’re probably noticing the vowel sounds. English underwent something called the Great Vowel Shift starting around 1400 where our vowel system shifted enormously. Before that, we pronounced vowels in a similar way to the vast majority of other European languages, including German, French, Italian, etc. Things like pronouncing I as an “ee” sound for example, just as Italian does today.

  • @Memeratora
    @Memeratora Před 3 lety +6

    I prefer medieval than modern
    Who want to bring them back?

    • @mollieisabellereynolds
      @mollieisabellereynolds Před 3 lety +3

      medieval is kind of a generalisation, this is in middle English which was spoken in the late medieval period.

  • @ivanscottw
    @ivanscottw Před rokem

    Why does it sound.. scottish ?

    • @ivanscottw
      @ivanscottw Před rokem

      @@ASS_ault Exactly my thought ;)

  • @Kat-V
    @Kat-V Před 2 lety +2

    you know how some languages like portuguese are especially suited for singing? middle english is the polar opposite of that

  • @sjukfan
    @sjukfan Před 3 lety +2

    Am I the only one who hear lots of Old Norse here?

  • @hajira15
    @hajira15 Před 3 lety

    My english teacher singing along
    Everyone else: ;-;

  • @jinmazarro3212
    @jinmazarro3212 Před 3 lety +1

    I thought 'thou' was pronounced as 'Dao' and 'Thy' like 'Die'?

    • @mollieisabellereynolds
      @mollieisabellereynolds Před 3 lety

      in modern english yes (and i realise we don't say it much anymore but it was common in early modern english)

    • @ah795u
      @ah795u Před 3 lety

      Same as how in modern english we'd say pronounce out as like "aot" whereas in middle english you'd say "oot" like a scottish person would.

  • @Nat_Soc
    @Nat_Soc Před 3 lety +1

    Sounds like Spanish!!

  • @urination
    @urination Před 2 lety

    0:37 no i dont

  • @NikolasoGames
    @NikolasoGames Před 3 lety +1

    Sounds nordic

  • @CM-os7ie
    @CM-os7ie Před 2 lety +1

    "As an X speaker, now the spelling makes sense"
    - quite a few of the comments of this video.
    Well, as an English speaker this makes absolutely no sense spelling wise. Unless I drive like... 10 minutes up the road into the countryside....
    *hmmm, funny that*

  • @abhinaik5400
    @abhinaik5400 Před 3 lety +5

    German

    • @linajurgensen4698
      @linajurgensen4698 Před 3 lety +4

      Not at all... more like Dutch.

    • @abhinaik5400
      @abhinaik5400 Před 3 lety +3

      @@linajurgensen4698 yeah after hearing german more closely i take it back . but it sound like scandalvanian like swedish norweian may be . dutch has more difficult pronounciation