0 cycle in disguise | 4* only, MoC 12 | Honkai: Star rail
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- čas přidán 7. 06. 2024
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0:00 - First half
9:32 - Second half
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not serval hitting her own brother
gepard is hitting his two sisters in this fight. it's the landau family squabble ft. two people from the xianzhou
She is doing it every patch. 😅
@@KamenNepper two ppl from xianzhou?
@@mvi_lab tru
@@umaranidas174 tingyun and hanya on serval's team
Me who have skill issue : "is it possible to learn this power? 😮"
No
Get two copies of S5 DanceDanceDance, get a shitton of crazy good relics, it will get easier from there
Yes. We all were Newby at the start.
Skill issue in pve. It doesnt exist
**Senate Look** Not from a whale.
Easier to pull a team of meta 5*s than S10 Dance, Dance, Dance...
True
Dancex3 is the true endgame ❤ Great run!
This is so much nicer content than watching Acheron cult gamers.
Haha sure buddy, E6 4stars are much more expensive to get than E0 5stars. This aint workin for F2P. Better to get E0 5stars.
@@Zerocyxone9 and the double s5 ddd too
@@Zerocyxone9yeah I agree, you basically need to pull on seperate banners with that 4 star 2-4 times depending on your luck while pulling for a limited 5 star to get them to e6 with the way that chances work
Realistically also most people do have a few limited 5 stars at E0
If anything rn its more impressive to clear without the meta supports for 0 cycle (Ruan Mei, Robin, Sparkle, Bronya, Tingyun)
@@Zerocyxone9 in f2p and i have lots of e6 4 stars.
@@spinylightgaming if you played since beginning yes. but for new players nope. its bad to invest on e6 4stars or to chase after it. its better to get E0 5stars.
Super impressive clears as always, always enjoy watching them!
amazing work 🧨🧨 and I love that Luka/SUShang wombo combo
So happy to see my waifu Sushang being used in Moc Stage 12! Hope to see her there for many years to come!
Using old 4* characters for fresh expirience is the reason to make such challenges.
(omg I hope you understand what I mean since I use a translator) yo dude, I watched a few of your videos, it's cool! seriously, I really liked it aha ;) I always enjoyed putting videos like this in the background when I do something, for example, draw.
Harmony mc is so fun I am looking forward to see more 4-star showcases with them ❤
These are the runs that make me theory craft and actully mess with characters. Honestly one of my fav characterw is xueyi and i started using from watching your vids
im very appreciate 4 star run, very satisfying to watch, ggwp
really fun showcase
Great run! That's great use of Gallagher E2 with his ult. I was thinking you would use full fire team on first half
Nice Luka build and gameplay!
I thought about it. But how could I abandon my Serval?
Loli vs. Woman. The answer is obvious.
I'm also not sure that using single target dps is a good idea there. There are two elites, not one boss.
Btw, how is it going on your side? Did you try?
@@mvi_lab interesting logic. I did one attempt, can't even survive on the first half, will try again later. I would add Ratio if I can't 3 stars, also leveling up the solitary healing lc for Luka
@@WeiForever good luck!
@mariengrad1732 without second DDD it was also 5 cycles for me.
"These targets will make a good proctice"
-serval to her brother 2024
Damn this is insane, and it took me 10 cycles using meta 5*s 😭
(Side note you misspelled disguise in the title, just wanted to let you know lol)
Thank you!
u probably dont have 10 copies of ddd
This guy + A five star character = POWEEEEEEEEEEER!!!!😂
Me who uses Acheron and a DHIL with Sparkle yet takes the same number of cycles as this to clear 💀💀💀. Skill issue indeed.
This sounds like speed rolls issue. I shaved off 3 cycles, when gave Acheron’s supports (Pela and sw) 161 speed and gave two copies of my s5 ddd to sparkle and Tingyun on DHIL’s side. Both ting and sparkle also above 161 speed. I know how hard to get specific rolls on relics and 10 ddd is pure luck. But faster characters make soooo much difference. I literally went from 22 cycles remaining to 25 and my DHIL and Acheron dealt the exact same dmg.
@@user-wf5jm2nc1h look back at it I think your right. I generally just have bad luck with speed rolls in general and can’t seem to get any character above 156 speed without taking pieces off others that need their speed as well. Despite playing since launch, speed substats just don’t want to come to me.
I don’t have s5 ddd 😂, only s1 (have another).
I feel like I just has bad runs where my sparkle was hit and action delayed a lot (156spd), which means my DHIL couldn’t go a lot.
@@mp9104 Yea, when a certain stat doesn’t like you, it sucks. Mine cursed stat is BE. I can’t build Ruan Mei till this day 😭. And I want Boothill or FF (haven’t decided yet) and they both need BE. I have only one piece that has more that 20% be on it. And all of my speedy be pieces are on Ruan Mei:(
Finally, a new video
There were new vedeos on my second channel...
I love the Sushang-Luka Dual Breaker here
Boothill bout to replace one of them
Me, with a lot of 5 stars and struggling to complete MOC 10:
Teach me your ways
Upgrade traces, max out your lightcones and walk into relic hell with the rest of us.
4* DPS with cracked relic will beat 5star DPS with shit relics any day
Multiple copies of Dance x3 also help. Turn manipulation can surpass 5* lc if use wisely.
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Next will be with 5*s on 1 month old f2p account.
To be honest this moc blessing is pretty strong. Thou u will need to ensure 6 total damaging attacks for each cycle to get 6 Memory imprint stacks to get 25% energy (it can store overflow). Stack reset beginning of each cycle. Each stack also increase dmg dealt. U can time ur big dmg ult like archeron after u get gud amount of memory imprint stack.
If u unable to get that 25% energy every cycle. Pretty much u will lose quite a big chunk of dmg and survivability.
Thats some god tier lv relics, really nice
I didnt notice the mouse until you pointed it out 😅
I also didn't notice it until I noticed it.
i like the thumbnails
Hoo boy, my skill issue is huge! I can’t even 3* MOC 8 😭
Holy shit this could not have been closer. And it required soo much strategy and Im also guessing resets. I feel like genshins 4* only abbyss always looks a bit easier than Honkais MoC 4* clears.
Tbf, if you see something close on my channel, this only means I didn't test and optimize it further. 3* are the point to stop for me.
But you are right, I wouldn't even compare these games in terms of difficulty. :)
Whoa. 170 spds supports Dancex3 V. Ultimate power!
Just subbed Guinafien is my fav 4 star. hopefully you can do a run with her for this MOC 💫
Sorry, usually 1 MoC - 1 run.
Now I need to figure out how to do it on my 1 month f2p account.
Oh, there will be Guinaifen.
and here I am still struggling because of relic issues
Same. I had to revisit some of my 4*. Break Luka was what did it for me. Having him break and having him proc multiple times made up for my loss in damage from poor artifacts.
as a person who also like to lvl and use 4 stars for fun this is quite impressive i couldn't do a 4 star only clear
Dont worry. This MoC is really hard. I had to use double ddd cheat code.
wow, such playing, very awesome
(btw, 170+ SPD supports... fk my life)
I literally can't beat this with Acheron and Seele, yo there's just no way
3:42: Gepard: "So, who's my opponents?"
Lynx & Serval: " :) "
Gepard: "Are you f*cking kidding me?! 💢"
This is harder than previous because the buff is not that great. well done
True
Great clear! It's very nice to see well-thought 4* runs. Also, these DDD lightcones really do their job, arent they? xD
10:54 yeah no more broken rules, now its time for the bones
I also used Serval but she does like half as much damage as yours. And I have more atk more CV and better ratio using quantum set and glamoth. But I used E2 bronya so glamoth was active. Interchanged pela and Hanya but none improved performance overall. I'm using S4 BP LC on her. And She's E3.
0 cycle in olisguise
Insane run here! I'm definitely dreading this one. Wondering if putting in Yukong or Asta would help me clear faster with Serval. This seems like a spicy MOC for us 4 star players.
Pioneer would help to clear faster. O was missing some percentages without second DDD.
@@mvi_lab Do you change team comp to Pela& Tingyun instead if you have pioneer?
@@Mocchi- most likely. Or, maybe, Guinaifen.
Man DDD is really a broken LC. Me out here with a S1 DDD bruh.
Wonder if they will ever made a 5 stars ddd
Imagine how broken would that be
My Sparkle is waiting for this.
I have played since release and i still can't do moc 12 😭
Let's see how long it will take me on my new f2p account.
GG serval 4 cycle
S5 DDD was the true 5* all along
Estou muito triste, tenho vários personagens com arma assinatura e mesmo assim não consigo chegar nem na sala 11😢😢😢
This is impossible for me to do something like you did, i takes more than 10 cycle if i am doing to do that with my skill or i am doing a rage quit 😂
No enemy in 1st half has quantum weakness, maybe lightning or pioneer set would have been better here. thoughts?
Yes, Pioneer would be better.
I also cleared in 10 cycles with sushang.. but half of my roster was 5* 😭
me looking for a team comp that match up very close to my setup, almost everyone using someone i havent level up, or gear i dont have, i wish i have at least 1x DDD...
I have the same leaks can confirm its a visual bug
What do you mean?
i... arent you supposed to use enhanced basic attack on luka for breaking???
There is a limit for enhanced attacks. So, I have to use his skill from time to time.
But as far as I remember, I could use one more basic here instead of skill.
I took me few cycles with meta teams i see i have skill issues 😔
Can you Do kafka, BS, RM, HMC second half?
No, my dot team: Kafka, BS, RM, Sparkle.
HMC can give nothing since enemies die before being broken.
If you know my dot team, you should know it. If you don't know my dot team - how do you know I have Kafka and Black Svan? 🤔
How are you hitting so hard with Serval? Shock?
Serval + relics + supports
A day 1 player and i only have one s2 DDD😢 had a lot of luck on the others tho but i really need those DDD lol
Fortunately, it was in BS banner.
why did you never use Luka Enhance Basic Attack when almost break? You can proc twice (during break and next turn, you can get 3 bleed (when they recover)) while in this run, almost like 2 bleed
Bc I did the second half with break Luka (premium team) consist of Luka/Bronya/Robin/Aven
I can still proc it after enemie is recovered.
Give me a timecode, and I will explain my thoughts.
Dance3 hard carrying rn, howd u get an s10 one anyway? Crazy luck
It is not luck. It is S5 Black Swan.
@@mvi_lab 💀💀💀☠️☠️
Im having a lot of difficulty on the second half due to the ruthless CC debuffs both kafka and the elite give, and i've been using a team like...
Luka, Kafka, Ruan Mei, Lynx
I mainly have two questions...
1. How are you able to navigate around the CC debuffs so well? Even with lynx, my characters were constantly getting either pushed backwards or stunned, and even my 80 effect res lynx was getting killed in some runs. It felt like i was going through a lot of RNG to get a run palatable. Is Gallagher better for the back-to-back cleanses? Cause if so i could try it out when i get his E2 (if he's in an upcoming character picker, not sure if he will be)
2. Would you suggest anything different to a Luka team like that, out of some extra options i'll list here that i have built? Options are: Silverwolf, Sushang, HTB, Gallagher, Aventurine, Pela, All of the 4* harmony units
Thank you if you're able to take the time to respond to this (and even if you can't, the video's still a huge help!)
1. As I said, this run required a lot of hit fishing. So yet, it is rng to not get the wrong control.
But if I used 5* characters with more damage, I would use March. She is much more reliable than any healer, especially in fast runs (100+ EHR required).
Aventurine is a very strong sustain. I have him on my f2p account. Will test him in the second half next. It should be much easier. Silverwolf was my first breaker. I even bought her E2 to apply entanglement on bosses.
I would try SW, Aventurine, HMC, Sushang, with SW breaker and quantum break on everybody. Be sure you break the enemies in the middle of their turn with SW's ultimate to reduce dmg and extend cc duration.
Huohuo is also disgusting at dispelling debuffs if you have her
@@Tragic_Hooway Huohuo is the most useful sustain so far.
Why did you use basic attack on sushang so much? Didn't her skill do more damage?
Because skillpoints are limited.
Bruh I can't even get 3 stars with meta characters... I guess I have skill issue then
Just want to say mc is not a 4*
why using quantum gear??
Check description.
😮 is farming only one cavern cost efficient
Depends on what cost means for you.
Description.
@@mvi_lab if i dont have dots should i just live in genius/guard?
@3setsofdrums I wouldn't.
But again, it depends on you and your account. Pioneer is better than Genius, but not for everyone. Eagle/Ice are good. Build your favorite characters.
If your characters can use Pioneer, better live there.
@@mvi_lab after reading pioneer set bonuses, it is absolutely better than quantum. but i still think quantum is more future proof (for me, a completely fresh player with no 5*'s but bronya) since def shred affects pretty much any source of damage in the game. i've heard of the crazy substats people roll on guard pieces too (is it actually a thing, that weaker sets have better substats?) my gut still tells me to live in quantum, since watchmaker is such a niche support set that sticking to guard might be safer (i plan to avoid break meta since i missed ruan mei). am i overestimating guard set too much?
im also considering farming both hackerspace and pioneer domain, but my gut tells me it's going to be really stamina inefficient because i'm essentially farming both of those domains at 50% efficiency (blade and penacony are a bit too niche). what's your take on this combo especially for future proofing?
i've also decided to farm world 3 in su, since world 7 set requirements are too steep, and world 8 truthfully might be a world of pain to farm and the set bonuses are also a bit niche. i think world 3 is best for future proofing and has the most, although lacking in value ceiling, universal sets (dunno why people are trashing it). iirc you also farm world 3 or used to, and it's kind of a source of reassurance to me.
good substats are much better than barely advantageous and much stricter set bonuses, and it's good to know that i'm farming relics at 100% efficiency.
(also i love how the quantum and guard sets look they're so clean)
hope you have an answer for some of my confusions 😄
@@mvi_lab pioneer is absolutely insane and i think it has more value than quantum set. still skeptical about break effect set tho. maybe i build harmony trailblazer and roll for firefly, is that good (since i missed ratio, LMFAO). if so i could actually live in pioneer cavern, my serval's gonna love it
plz moc11
Sorry, not this time. I'm busy. :(
“Uhmmm…. Ackshually… the trailblazer is considered a 5 star character, therefore making this run invalid” - 🤓
Someone had to say it. 🤓