This first mate Stone was the only Californian officer to have his career destroyed because it was his duty to fully awaken the sleeping captain with a more compelling rendition of the situation. His biggest mistake was not rousing the wireless man. The lamp Morse code scene was just a nonsense scene. He did not even remotely do his duty and he wasn't even allowed to work in the mail room of any ship again, or pilot even a dinghy
@@xdbym Hello - I think the Frankfurt operator spoke bad English. Is there a CZcams video showing the positions of other ships during the sinking? Evans only remained employed because Morse operators were worth their weight in gold and he was the type who'd work in obscure locations. His lack of curiosity about Titanic steaming full speed into the ice field he, Evans, was in would have made him ineligible as an officer going forward. Wouldn't he be concerned about Titanic ramming his own cabin walls? The curiosity alone would have kept me awake with the radio on.
@@xdbym That's just rubbish though Ana, who says the Californians wireless was suppose to be on? The Californian like most ships only had one wireless operator and he was asleep, should he just have left it on and unmanned? It's simply untrue what you are saying.
So I'm reading that it was also Philips (Titanic's wireless operator) fault cuz he was bombarded with messages on the Titanic. He stated to the S.S. Californian "Shut up I'm busy...!" from their iceberg warning, but from there Evans (Californian's wireless operator) turned off the wireless equipment to go to bed 10 minutes before the Titanic hit the iceberg. Also, the S.S. Californian was EMPTY! Imagine if they hadn't turned off their equipment and the Titanic had shared their message to the crew.
I mean, hear me out. I’m not siding with anyone or any vessel here, but in Philips defence he had the volume on his wireless on full blast because he was contacting Cape Race due to it being very far and Californian interrupted and she was only about 5-20 Miles away. And no one wants to be blasted with loud beepings at ass o’ clock at night.
I also thought they have no binoculars on the titanic due to it being locked and the key is at the second officer david blair that was left by the ship
@@elizabethburch3030 nah, the lookout’s binoculars were in a locker, which an officer who was dismissed had the keys to. The keys were never given to his replacement
This whole thing solidifies in my mind that the whole deal was a swap/insurance fraud. Supposedly the California Captain was waiting on a specific color. Why else were they floating all the way empty, stalking the Titanic
The fraud and insurance fraud has been debunked countless of times sir. The Olympic and Titanic had too many differences. They can't have swapped them. So forget it.
overlooked as to why california didn't help is they didn't see the rockets as a sign of distress back then to signal distress rockets were to be fired at one minute intervals or had to a certain colour which speculates the titanic crew either didn't have the right rockets or weren't properly trained in how to properly fire them
I never understood why none of the lifeboats didn't try to row towards the Californian. Even if they couldn't get the whole way to it. At least try to row towards it as close to it as possible and have the lifeboats set off a few flairs once they were a bit closer. That along with the titanics flairs going off may have been enough for the Californian to investigate a little more.
The people in the lifeboats didn't know the Californian was there..and some who thought it was a ship was told it was a star or a mirage Plus it was pitch black And I am not sure but I don't think flare guns were a thing yet in 1912
@@io___2088 No, the SS Mount Temple was the ship the Californian saw in the distance and decided to head toward when they first started moving again after they finally found out that the Titanic really did sink.
The reality is that Titanic made all the wrong disissions, from driving high speed through the ice field 🧊🚢, the irresponsible telegraphers ☎️🤬 and filling the life boats only half way to accommodate the rich passengers🛶🚣
Regardless if the Californian was too far away to make a difference, regardless of if there was a third ship, or there was ice, or the rockets weren’t from the Titanic, the people aboard the Californian saw what everyone who has ever been on a boat knows is the universal signal of a vessel in distress and did nothing, they not even turn the radio back on to call and see what it was while other ships farther away in the same weather and ice conditions took action. If you see a distress signal and ignore it that is terribly wrong, and just because after the fact you learned it wouldn’t have made much difference does not excuse inaction when for all they knew there were lives to be saved with them the closest ship nearby.
@@alecmaclean6177 Yeah, the Californian was really no more than 10 miles away and her crew was very suspicious about what they were watching in the distance that night too. It’s just a real shame Captain Lord didn’t even bother to have his radio operator awakened to check on the radio messages to investigate further until around sunrise when it was too late.
Everything you said is literally false. 1. They didnt move at full speed. Just a conspiracy theory 2. Idk what you want to say by "irresponsible" but do you know that Phillips and Bride only had like two hours of sleep in the last few days of the voyage? Of course they would be stressed and pissed off by some extremely loud noises. Their reaction was understandable. 3. Most steerage passengers have arrived very late on deck which lead to a big misunderstanding because the officers wanted to fill all boats equally. When the steerage passengers arrived, the officers had to improvise and fill most boats up to the top. All you said is misinformation.
This first mate Stone was the only Californian officer to have his career destroyed because it was his duty to fully awaken the sleeping captain with a more compelling rendition of the situation. His biggest mistake was not rousing the wireless man. The lamp Morse code scene was just a nonsense scene. He did not even remotely do his duty and he wasn't even allowed to work in the mail room of any ship again, or pilot even a dinghy
@@xdbym Hello - I think the Frankfurt operator spoke bad English. Is there a CZcams video showing the positions of other ships during the sinking? Evans only remained employed because Morse operators were worth their weight in gold and he was the type who'd work in obscure locations. His lack of curiosity about Titanic steaming full speed into the ice field he, Evans, was in would have made him ineligible as an officer going forward. Wouldn't he be concerned about Titanic ramming his own cabin walls? The curiosity alone would have kept me awake with the radio on.
@@xdbym That's just rubbish though Ana, who says the Californians wireless was suppose to be on? The Californian like most ships only had one wireless operator and he was asleep, should he just have left it on and unmanned? It's simply untrue what you are saying.
It was first said about the captain that he would spend the rest of his life explaining his decision.
If the titanic crew had the right colour rockets and were trained how to properly fire them the california wouldve recognised it as a distress signal
2:07 That doll did not age well!
2:35 1958 predicts the future
How so?
Not comparable.... covid was no real danger, Titanic's sinking was.
This clip starts and ends with Boxhall's frustrations towards the distant light's unresponding.
So I'm reading that it was also Philips (Titanic's wireless operator) fault cuz he was bombarded with messages on the Titanic. He stated to the S.S. Californian "Shut up I'm busy...!" from their iceberg warning, but from there Evans (Californian's wireless operator) turned off the wireless equipment to go to bed 10 minutes before the Titanic hit the iceberg.
Also, the S.S. Californian was EMPTY! Imagine if they hadn't turned off their equipment and the Titanic had shared their message to the crew.
I mean, hear me out. I’m not siding with anyone or any vessel here, but in Philips defence he had the volume on his wireless on full blast because he was contacting Cape Race due to it being very far and Californian interrupted and she was only about 5-20 Miles away.
And no one wants to be blasted with loud beepings at ass o’ clock at night.
@@randomcommenter8137also Phillips has been awake for like 40 hours that day
how the heck they dint realise the other crew have binocular?
They would not sank if they just use it
I also thought they have no binoculars on the titanic due to it being locked and the key is at the second officer david blair that was left by the ship
@@elizabethburch3030 nah, the lookout’s binoculars were in a locker, which an officer who was dismissed had the keys to. The keys were never given to his replacement
Mhm yeah binoculars are very useful in the dark.
This whole thing solidifies in my mind that the whole deal was a swap/insurance fraud. Supposedly the California Captain was waiting on a specific color. Why else were they floating all the way empty, stalking the Titanic
The fraud and insurance fraud has been debunked countless of times sir. The Olympic and Titanic had too many differences. They can't have swapped them. So forget it.
overlooked as to why california didn't help is they didn't see the rockets as a sign of distress back then to signal distress rockets were to be fired at one minute intervals or had to a certain colour which speculates the titanic crew either didn't have the right rockets or weren't properly trained in how to properly fire them
Exactly also the owners of the Titanic owned the S.S. Californian. 🤷♂️
No boiler operating and surrounded by ice.
oh binocular they have a binocular
Yeah, they were just locked away from the lookouts thanks to David Blair taking away the key to the locker they were being stored in.
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I never understood why none of the lifeboats didn't try to row towards the Californian. Even if they couldn't get the whole way to it. At least try to row towards it as close to it as possible and have the lifeboats set off a few flairs once they were a bit closer. That along with the titanics flairs going off may have been enough for the Californian to investigate a little more.
The people in the lifeboats didn't know the Californian was there..and some who thought it was a ship was told it was a star or a mirage
Plus it was pitch black
And I am not sure but I don't think flare guns were a thing yet in 1912
@@ohwell94 It wasn’t entirely pitch black and the Californian actually did have lights on at the time of sinking.
It was the Mount Temple ship and it left after a little bit because couldn’t pass through the ice field.
Tried to go around.
@@io___2088 No, the SS Mount Temple was the ship the Californian saw in the distance and decided to head toward when they first started moving again after they finally found out that the Titanic really did sink.
The reality is that Titanic made all the wrong disissions, from driving high speed through the ice field 🧊🚢, the irresponsible telegraphers ☎️🤬 and filling the life boats only half way to accommodate the rich passengers🛶🚣
Wow everything you said was wrong
Regardless if the Californian was too far away to make a difference, regardless of if there was a third ship, or there was ice, or the rockets weren’t from the Titanic, the people aboard the Californian saw what everyone who has ever been on a boat knows is the universal signal of a vessel in distress and did nothing, they not even turn the radio back on to call and see what it was while other ships farther away in the same weather and ice conditions took action. If you see a distress signal and ignore it that is terribly wrong, and just because after the fact you learned it wouldn’t have made much difference does not excuse inaction when for all they knew there were lives to be saved with them the closest ship nearby.
Lmao so wrong
@@alecmaclean6177 Yeah, the Californian was really no more than 10 miles away and her crew was very suspicious about what they were watching in the distance that night too. It’s just a real shame Captain Lord didn’t even bother to have his radio operator awakened to check on the radio messages to investigate further until around sunrise when it was too late.
Everything you said is literally false.
1. They didnt move at full speed. Just a conspiracy theory
2. Idk what you want to say by "irresponsible" but do you know that Phillips and Bride only had like two hours of sleep in the last few days of the voyage? Of course they would be stressed and pissed off by some extremely loud noises. Their reaction was understandable.
3. Most steerage passengers have arrived very late on deck which lead to a big misunderstanding because the officers wanted to fill all boats equally. When the steerage passengers arrived, the officers had to improvise and fill most boats up to the top. All you said is misinformation.