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In this youtube video adventure photographer Benjamin Jaworskyj explains what the different camera sensor sizes like fullframe APSC and medium format actually mean, how they are different, and if sensor size does matter. If you ever wanted to know why a fullframe camera has "more" Bokeh, check out this photography video.
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Zenzorrrrr
Zenzzzorrr size😀
zenzor zize....
Abhilash Buragohain I knew it!!! when he said that I immediately scroll to comment section to check if anyone will mention about it 😂😂😂
What is a Zenzorr??
My favourite Ninja Turtle baddie!
Sensor ❌
Zennzoor ✔️
Mr. Perfect
nope
lol
"Do not make comments about his pronunciation"
"Do not make comments about his pronunciation"
"Do not make comments about his pronunciation"
"Do not make comments about his pronunciation"
NIICEEE ZENXSORRS !!!1!!1!!1!
you almost made it
You don't mess with the Zohan.
David Belfort SHenZZooooRrR kom-pjyu-thaaa 😂👏
But he is actually pronouncing it right because Zensors are something different, they are a type of sensor that stills the mind.
i like zensors...
I love when Arnold Schwarzenegger teaches me about cameras
I'll be back!
If we can shoot it, it will die
Get to the Choppa!!!
Zenzor
Zenxor size!! Love the video and the energy.
"Zenzorrz" and "Sand corns". Okay, to clarify, Ben is German and in Germany we have 2 ways to pronounce the "S" -> sharp and soft. The German pronounciation of the German word "Sensor" is more like (or exactly like) IF it was spelled "Zenzor". That is the reason why this sounds a bit weird here. A common mistake by Germans. We have a term for this: "denglisch" (deutsch + englisch). The German "Z" by the way is always pronounced like a short high hat "ts", never like a soft "S". The word "sand corn" I believe he also derived from the German "Sandkorn". In English it sounds a bit off, because it's more common to use "grain of sand", but I guess it does it's job. But other than that his english is pretty decent - you have to give him that. I don't know any English speaker who performs German for example in that fluent manner.
This is how a photography lesson becomes a Spoken English class
I don’t think he’s german. He’s some kind of slavic.
@@kasparasvisockas4289 No, Middle East refugee...
I was wondering what a sand corn is
thank you captain.
Those were amazing zenzors man, appreciate the video!
I sold my Leica M240 and my Sony A7RIII and currently I only use a Panasonic GH8 with 2 prime lenses.
Once you've overpassed the ego issu, you take a lot of pleasure using humble things, including cameras.
And nobody ever said to me so far : "I like your picture, but it's a shame you took it with a M4/3 and not a FF..."
sure, at the end of the day whether people are struck by your photo or not is your responsibility as the photographer, and equipiment is unimportant to a point, but also if you're doing something like product/nature/portrait photography for blowup to poster/banner/billboard size, ultimate sharpness, bit depth, and resolution matters a lot.
I respect your opinion but...you can take much better quality photos with a FF rather than a M4/3 or ASP-C, it's a fact, not an ego issue. I do a lot astrophotography and trust me, the quality and field of view of a FF is something I would not trade for a smaller sensor. If you enjoy your M4/3, that's good and no argument that you can take a lot of pleasure of even shooting with your smartphone but upgrading to a bigger sensor is NOT about ego, it's about quality
Love how you say sensor! Thanks for the video bro 🙏🏻
Karl Rock kaise ho bhai ? :)
NAHI chahie ji
Yes, usually Germans pronounce sensor this way.
Wow seeing you here :D !
Szenzour
110mm is just a focal length, it doesn't give the same angle of view for MFT, APS-C, FF or MF, so it's not comparable.
To have comparable angle of view AND depth of field you should use:
~55mm F/2 MTF
~82mm F/3 APS-C
~110mm F/4 FF
~180mm F/7 MF
Then the only difference in image would be xenxor quality (dynamic range, noise, resolution...) if we neglect quality of hypothetical lenses.
you won't have the same depth of field. when you photograph a person on a 110mm on fullframe on f4 will get a very smooth bokeh, but the same person on a 55mm on f2 on mft won't look that nice. that's why a 35mm 1,4 on fullframe looks amazing but the same lens on a apsc is too close. then you get further away and get less bokeh. then you change the lens on maybe 24mm 1,4 and it won't give you the same look. For some genre of photography it does not make much difference like for landscape, but when you want lots of nice bokeh I won't go with mft or apsc. that's why for filming and portrait/lifestyle and so on I would always go fullframe. for wildlife i prefer apsc or fullframe in a apsc cropped mode.
It was just to show what kind of image you get with the same settings. There you see that you actually get different picture sizes, which is just seen from the other side. That's why you get a different quality with a MF/FF cause you can stay closer to the object.
You don't understand - MFT 55mm F/2 and FF 110mm F/4 have exactly the same aperture (55/2=110/4=27.5mm) which means they will give you exactly the same depth of field (& bokeh) with exactly the same distance from the subject, and exactly the same field of view (MFT 55mm = 110mm FF).
Benjamin Jaworskyj can you make a simple a video about this?...
Ja sam But in the real world, the micro-4-third lenses would have to be aperture f/0.7 or brighter to work with the same distances and get the same results as a full frame 24x36mm sensor, and it isn't really practical to do portrait shooting while sticking your lens up in the models face two or three feet away.
Thw workable solution would probably be using Olympus 75mm f/1.8 but that is like working with a 150mm lens to do portrait on a full frame. Then we are still competing with any 135mm f/2.8 or and old Pentax 150mm f/4.
You really needed to point out that unlike other zenzor zizes, medium format varies. This is very significant because some are relatively small (like the GFX 50) and if you have to adjust to a more "normal crop", they can be as little as 30% bigger. Worth knowing with fuji breaking into the "medium format " consumer market.
GIT TO DA ZENZOOORRR!!! (Schwarzenegger voice)
LOL
🤣😭
My zensor is a neuralnet processor. A learning computer
Now I'll have to pronounce it zenzor for the rest of my life. Can't go back
I love his energy, I love how he says “Sensor Size” “Zenxor Ziess”
Analog medium format shooter here. It’s a bit mad, but I love working with the analog stuff. The main drawback apart from the ludicrous cost per shot is the sheer weight and bulk of the cameras. My Mamiya 6x7 MF camera is almost too heavy to carry around (over 3kilos with a 120 film back, a 180mm lens and without the prism finder) for extended periods of time and you do not want to shoot this beast without a tripod if you can help it. The smaller M645 (which is coincidentally the analog predecessor of your P1XF - Mamiya was bought up by Phase One at some point and they kept using Mamiya‘s camera design) is more portable but also definitely not a „travel camera“. For that I have several APSC cameras, my current favorite being the Alpha 6300, with a bunch of vintage Canon glass.
Finally, a understandable explanation of the meaningful differences between sensor sizes! Thanks! 😃 I had been thinking again which format to stay with and this helps a lot. Must check out the rest of his videos!
daamnnnn....i have been buying wrong cameras in name of sensor all these years...now i will definitely go for cameras with zenzors!
It is all about lenses. If I take 25mm f/1.4 on MFT and a 50mm f/2.8 on FF, I got the same picture, if the shutter speed is the same (also the noise!). At the end, the advantage of FF is:
1. More MP if you have a high end model
2. More dynamic range (except Canon...)
3. The possibility to choose very big lenses
If you have an entry level FF (e.g. Sony A7III) and take a shoot with an aperture >2.0 and your exposure is right (no need for dynamic range), you will have the same image quality.
That the image quality on a 24MP FF is better than on a 24MP APSC is simply wrong. Which technical fact should produce this result? Your lens need an higher resolution. For this reasone some of the best Fujinon, M.Zuiko, Panasonic/Leica lenses (special design for smaller sensor size) have a resolution like the best Zeiss lenses. This is the reason why a M.Zuiko 45mm f/1.2 cost over 1.000 bucks.
Bigger Pixel or more space between pixel, results in a lower temperature. This could be a reason for better noise performance. But this is only true if you have a very special camera like the A7S series. As I said before, if you gather the same amount of light (example above), the noise is comparable and depends on the manufacturer technology.
My confusion about zensoor size has ended. 🙏🏻 thank you for the explaination
after watching this i accidentally called sensor senzeors 😂😂
Hey, Benjamin! Good, informative video. But I would put it this way:
Larger sensor catches wider field of view with the same focal length, compared to a smaller sensor. Therefore we can shoot the same composition and framing (if the aspect ratio allows for that) from a closer distance, which makes a shallower depth of field with the same camera settings (all except focus distance) and produces more background blur.
Shooting with different sensor sizes from the same distance results in absolutely different image framing (and you've proved this video), which helps understanding how it actually works, but is kind of useless for camera format comparison, in my opinion. Because for many people it can be really confusing and then they make up mantras like "sensor size doesn't matter", "the blur is the same", etc. Anyways, that is one of the five visual sensor size comparison methods. Hope to see the rest sometime in the future as well. Good luck!
I think some influencer should make a video about it.
If the distance and focal length is the same, then on bigger sensor will be more data, but if change distance for similar angle of view, then bigger sensor will give more bluriness because of proportion of distance to object/distance to background.
Hi Ben. How about the sensors of smartphones? What do you call those? And how do those sensors measure with the image quality of full frame, medium format, micro four thirds and aps-c?
depending on the phone:) IPhone is using as far as I know 1/3 inch sensors . just to compare: micro four thirds is 4/3 inch. And you've seen how tiny it actualy is in the video:)
@@learnfromben
Huawei and other cameras have bigger sensor, I guess that's why they perform better in low light.
Xenxor😀.......Love the Video... Much love from🇹🇿
decided to take a shot every time he says "Zenzoor", 2 minutes in the video I'm piss drunk
What you say about view angle and depth of field is not a real difference, it doesn't affect the picture quality, it doesn't really matter. If you take a photo with a full frame camera with 50mm and f4.0, and you'd like to get the same view angle and DoF on a Micro 4/3 camera, you just have to dial in 25mm and f2.0 on you MFT. Every distance must be divided by 2 the focal lenght as well as the aperture. It's just a different measurement unit like using inches or centimeters. They are just numbers you can convert into each other. It isn't a quality issue.
What really matters that larger sensor can take more light. With bigger sensor you will get less noise and will work better in low light conditions. Full frame for example takes approximately(!!!) 4x more light than an MFT. 4 times, because width and height is 2x as big on the FF compared to MFT so the surface area is 2w*2h = 4*w*h i.e. 4 times as much. (This is only value if they use the same technology. You cannot compare a current sensor with a 10 years old one, as electronics has evolved during this time. This is just an approximation.) This is the factor that really matters, because you cannot compensate it with any settings.
BTW MFT lenses are usually smaller and lighter than FF objectives, which can be a benefit when travelling for example. Smaller objectives are usually also cheaper.
Benjamin, could you please do a comparison moving the cameras making the framing the same? That would be the way to compare how immersive each sensor is. Thank you in advance and hope you can make this video. Love your content!
This was a good explanation of sensor size differences and advantages of larger sensors. The problem is that there are positive and negative trade offs to each sensor size system -- since a sensor is worthless apart from a camera body and lens. I shoot exclusively with Micro Four Thirds System and find that any trade offs in regard to ISO performance or super shallow Depth of Field performance are more than offset by the advantages of system size, weight, and cost. I used m4/3's gear to shoot professionally for 10 years shooting weddings, corporate events, and portraits with complete success -- it saved my back and bank account. I now am retired and shoot mostly Nature, Scenic, Birds, and Wildlife and the m4/3's advantages are even more pronounced, as long telephoto shooting is where m4/3's really saves on size/weight, and cost -- and the greater Depth of Field is generally an advantage at 600-800mm + effective focal lengths.
Lenses for larger sensors can be manufactured at slightly less precise tolerances and give an equally good result. But they use more material and need bigger tools and have less market share - more expensive. I assume, with really small sensors this work the other way around: glass and production need to be at such a high level of precision that we need leica glass and prices to get near larger size quality - as in micro 4/3rds.
Thanks for this video. I'm so glad to finally see someone explain, in the correct way, that full frame doesn't mean better bokeh, more bokeh or a better image. Great job!
Well he's actually wrong as his images just aren't comparable. If he'd adjusted his focal length you'd have seen way more blur the bigger the sensor gets.
@@TheBrobbiebam you missed the point of the video.
Well if it was about that crop factors exists, I might..
But he said that sensor sizes don't affect the bokeh when they actually do, which is just wrong. (If you wanna be picky it's the focal length you need to achieve the same framing and not the sensor. Doesn't change the fact that his statement is wrong.)
@@TheBrobbiebam I disagree. It's the lens that makes the bokeh. That's why people prefer certain lenses because they give a better bokeh. If you disagree that's cool!
I'm not talking about aperture or if the bokeh balls are oval or perfect circles.
Do a little experiment. As I don't know if you have more than one camera system we have to go with a smartphone.
Smartphones these days usually have F1.7 lenses on them but a super tiny sensor.
Take a picture of whatever you want one time with your smartphone and after that with your camera at F1.7 and try to match the framing.
Try it out and you'll see that's not a thing of opinion but straight up science.
Z E N Z O R
5:56 Did he actually said "sensor"?
zenSOR!
CenZOERRRR
Wrong, he delved into Greek mythology -- quite clearly 'Centaur"
how about different count of step backward comparison to produce exactly same image?
apsc = 100 step?
ff = 50 steps away?
100mp = 0 step?
You can do that and the field of view will then be the same. However the depth of field will change. Three things that control depth of field are aperture and lens focal length and the distance of camera to subject. Moving the camera back will increase depth of field.
@GeekTvPR Media Yes, a 4/3's now comes with a scooter.
For mixed purposes (photo and vid) I stick with aps-c. Desirable (mostly for landscaping) FF. Great explanation. Thanks for taking the time.
The larger pixels seem to make it easier to have more color gradations: 16 bits at MF gives 4 times more gradations than 14 bits FF. This may be visible in subtle skin tones.
Which sensor you could suggest for commercial (food, jewellery and fashion) photography, which will probably be taken inside the studio? Is it medium size?
The diversity is the thing that makes humanity interesting. So luv hearing different variations of accent, colors of skins, way of behaving. This gives you lots of new things to learn. I hope god takes my life before I start living in a world of standard people, where everyone dresses, talks, behaves and thinks the same way. So, a big thumbs up for "zenzor"! Unless we understand each other, this is cool. His energy and positiveness is above all expectations. Well done dude! Go ahead and good luck! :)
Going from a a6000 to a A7ii the step from aps-c to Full-frame feels huge. So for me FF is ok (great 😁).
I have a bigger step 😂 mft to A7iii. So excited for mine to come in!!
so how was the a7ii as compared to the a6000?
I'm doing the exact same thing right now. Just picked up the A7ii body after selling the A6000. Now I need to get a good set of lenses.
@@davidbudo5551 that's cool. what lens do you plan to get?
@@clamik01, I'm going to start with the Samyang 135mm f2. Then I'm going to save up to get the Voigtlander 40mm f1.2 as my walk-around lens. After that, I will wait to see how the Voigtlander 110mm f2.5 APO lens performs from reviews I trust, and decide between it and the Venus Laowa 105mm f2. And, if I can afford it, I'd also like to get the Voigtlander 65mm f2 APO. I really like what I see from the Voigtlander lenses from both IQ and character.
The video was helpful to understand what happens when taking the picture. But if I crop a full frame sensor image down to the content presented by an APS-C, will I have lost image quality, same image quality, or better image quality?
my favorite sensor is APS-C because i shoot far. i shoot sports and it gives me a nice reach with a 200mm lens x 1.6 and its up closer.
This video is very educational. CZcams shouldnt censore this very good video.
Excellent video! Thank you very much. I am deciding what camera to buy and it's very confusing. This video helped! Keep it up!
I am using this video to study English. Full zennsoour!
But on an aps-c you have to multiply what the lens says the focal length is by 1.6 to get the equivalent focal length to a full frame. So with the lens at 110mm, your equivalent focal length is 176mm. If you set the lens to around 69mm, you'll get a picture that’s the equivalent to a focal length of 110.4mm on a full frame. The biggest advantage I see to full frame is that they shoot way better in low light, at lower ISO settings. But like most professional photographers say, "the best camera for the job is the one you have". And like you always say, "a noisy image is better than no image". I would love to get my hands on a full frame, but I can work with what I have.
moo good point.
What about the nikon d500?
guyseyes what about it?
@@dylanshackelton845 the d500's low light performance is wicked good. One of the best out there.
you dont have another focal length, you have a cropped Picture.. a crop sensor crops your edges .. thats the difference.
Despite the Zenzor, I would like to thank you for explaining these Sensors, now I understand them thanks to you
ZENZOR - It's a business idea for t-shirt print or maybe for the line of some accessories.
Depth of field is pronounced with bigger sensors . But the benefits when you enlarge prints , when upping sensor size uprate the pixel count .
All who are making fun of his pronunciations, you would freeze to death making a video like this for audience. You are all bold behind the scene, but never make effort for other. Ben did, and did a good job.
Thanks @Benjamin Jaworskyj
I use a sony A6400 apsc zenzor. I have no complaints other than grain issues at high iso.. like above 1600
By the way it is not abut blur it's about area .larger the sensor, larger the area it will capture.simple definition.
Great Vid , i was also trying to figure out where the super 35mm comes in , is it full frame or something else entirely .
Thanks for teaching about zenzor size bro! I shoot full frame and I’m very happy!
And there's one more thing about having bigger sensor - more accurate color tones transition (of course if the number of pixels are not super high)
finally understand zenzors now thnks bro
Great Vid. Answered all my questions perfectly.
Nicely done. Re: smartphone/tablet sensors, do they all have the same standard size (physical dimensions, not pixel count)? Would have liked to see them covered in the vid. Also, it is my understanding that light sensitivity is a factor of pixel size, not spacing between pixels, as you mentioned. Pls clarify. Thanks.
this channel is so underrated
I appreciate your video - I am shooting with the SL2 and currently using
a 17-400 Tamron and a 17-50 Sigma - I am not impressed with the images
shot close up - similar to "macro" style shooting. My comparison is
against a 40D (full frame) camera with similar lenses or Tsi 6 with
similar lenses. The result in like taking a full frame image and
cropping it to the crop sensor size. I think I am not impressed with
APS-C crop resolution as compared with full frame. I'm not blaming the
lenses either. So can the crop sensor shoot as sharp as the 40D? or is
this the price I pay for a smaller sensor?
Thank you I didn't even know the existence of medium frame before this video
That's exactly what the fool-frame gang wanted you to believe .. be free and and go medium format
Ur vids are by far the best on youtube. I like how good of a teacher you are. Keep doing what you're doing man thumbs up from San Diego, California
Amazing that after almost 10 years, Sony really devoted the e-mount system to flourish. And now Nikon wants to really join in the Mirrorless market with a competitive Mirrorless full frame camera and it brings good, solid competition for both brands.
BRILLIANTLY EXPLAINED
Thanks for the video !
What is the difference between a 1/2 3" and a 1" ?
I have a lumix fz 300 !
Awesome video, explanation, and energy!
I think sensor size just affect in low light performance / ISO capability. when you wanna get exactly same frame size / width & depth of field, just use equivalent focal lenght & aperture of MFT/APSC sensor to FF.
For example: Use APSC camera & 35mm f1.2 lens to get relatively same result with FF Camera & 50mm f1.8 lens.
For daily use, I prefer smaller sensor size camera (MFT/APSC) & some lenses in my tiny bag, than huge FF camera & lenses which more suitable for studio usage or wild photographer.
I use my Sony A6000 for APSC and Sony A99 for full frame photography and I love them both.
I like shooting wildlife and for bright sunny days I'll use an APS-C camera. I can shoot a flock of flying ducks and have them all in focus. Same settings on my full frame and not all the ducks will be in focus. On the other hand, if I'm going for deer in the woods, I'll use the full frame. It's better in low light and will get more of the deer in frame if they get to close with my 400mm prime lens.
I've seen this video after having all those sensors 😂 (Except M4T). Almost on point,the Aps-c focal was slightly off but overall easy to understand for people that start photography now. I don't understand why everyone mention the sensor word on the comments,what they expect everyone to speak posh English?Is difficult for people to write "Thank you for letting us know the differences"... Good video, subscribed 😀
And medium format is called just that because there used to be large format film cameras taking cassettes with a sheet of film for 1 shot: 4"x5" (102 mm x 127 mm) or 8"x10" (203 mm x 254 mm) or even 10"x12" (254 mm x 305 mm). Compare that to the 0.7"x0.95" (18mm x 24mm) of an APS-C sensor.
Great explication! I'm only beginning with photography and so your videos help me a lot.
There is one thing though that I don't understand:
the part where you give the example of taking a portrait with two people and you say that if you want to get them both into the frame, you have to go further back with a smaller sensor. I understand that, ok. But then you say that 'going further back' will make the background less blurry. Why? I thought the background blurriness was mad basically by aperture and the compression of the lense, why would going backwards make it less blurry? The distance between the focus point and the background doesn't change, the background is still as far away from the people as it was when you were closer. This confuses me a bit...
There is less magnification needed for any given print size with a larger sensor. This can make sharper images since the lens lacks being perfectly sharp.
@ 4'21 did you make a mistake ? are you not invert MF and FF ?
very good video ;)
What camera would you recommend for a beginner? Im thinking on buying a sony dsc-h300 is it good for beginners? 😀❤
Why not try the a6000? Look what you get for your money, than go to a shop and “play” a bit with the possible cameras
stella u choos nikon b500 that is better than sony hsc300 i own sony hsc that stuff is not good compared to nikon b 500
Does anyone know the name of the intro-song? Sounds Great!
And once again a very interesting video ben, keep on going with that, you inspired me to photographie
This is perhaps one of the best explanation I’ve seen. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you so much for the clarification on this. I was really confused before this video about what type of sensor I wanted.
CZcams brought me here while searching for 'Zeiss'. First sentence I thought i went to the right place. I was wrong. But excellent video seriously. Ignore the pronunciation comments. The content is excellent.
I have used apsc but now I use full frame that make me happy a lot. In future I wanna try medium format:)
You are a good teacher man.
Hello, what camera is better for hyperrealism art ?so that i can see the face details of a man or woman
Trying to decide if MFT is good enough quality for large fine art prints; Olympus OMD M1 II. Currently use Nikon D750 and D500 APSC.
defiantly more informative then most other. hope you keep making more like this.
But there is a downside... With a medium format camera, if you take a picture of your bank account statement you can see huge red shift. And the problem is you can't correct that in post :)
Micro four thirds telephoto lenses are so small and affordable and they have some awesome lenses that aren't telephoto that are also awesome. And just micro four thirds cameras are pretty small and portable. That small sensor makes so much space for more stuff that really helps.
Benjamin, your videos are amazing, thanks a lot! Dont stop :)
right now im using MFT GH5 i won't like to take photos with it but i love the video from it. for photos i love sony a7Riii and Nikon D850 but i can't afford any of these right now . for photos i always choose Full Frame but for Video Gh5 is the Beast
nice zenzooorr :D
So, are you saying that if you have a APS-C sensor, that you don’t necessarily want to shoot with 24mp because the sensor is too small to cram all of those MPs onto?
So, with Canon coming out with the new 90D that has 32 megapixels crammed in an APS-C zenzor is not necessarily a good thing?
ZENZOR!!!!!! great vid man. Keep up the good work.
Extremely helpful explanation! Thanks for this. Important video for amateur photographers such as myself!
Purchasing a lens (ultra wide angle to photograph northern lights) which has its focal length increased by 1.5 x. Is this good or bad?? Camera is Nikon D5200.
Nice presentation Ben. I have been analyzing the Olympus 4/3 system.
I love this guy!
Agreed! .. @Benjamin Jaworskyj, please don't mind all the Zenzor quotes from us mere plebs. We are just finding something slightly strange but in a beautiful way, not a bad strange. And we like to make fun in a banter with friends - so I hope you see this in this light and continue to make awesome videos. All hail the Zenzor :)
And, we have to compare resolution (sharpness) from one sensor side to the other, not the area of the sensor. Two times the megapuxels is 1.4 times sharpness. 100 MP is ~4x 24 MP but SQRT(4) only 2 times the sharpness.
Great. So the next topic is Pixel size :) I used to believe Sensor size meant better low light performance, but i was so wrong. All the camera manufacturers seems to be obsessed with Megapixel counts unfortunately.
Thanks for teaching us about zenzors 😀
When did "grainy" become a bad thing with photographs? This must be a new thing the youngsters don't understand - grain = character for a photograph. Not everything needs to be hyper-focused and ultra-lifelike-realistic...
I love MFT because of its price and it just used up my 1/4 backpack size with 3 lens covered from 12mm - 300mm