STIHL CHAINSAW'S Dirty Little Secret
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Protect your round files in drinking straws so they aren't dulling one another in the plastic bag.
Wow thank you I love this. Great idea.
But that sharpens them.... Lol
@@jonyemm 🤔🤯🧐😅
@@davidfultz6483 that sad part is i literally seen someone mention that on a forum once when someone asked about sharpening their files. One guy said he just leaves his loose in a drawer and them sliding around as he opens and closes the draw sharpens them. I didn't waste my time trying to explain anything to him.
Good ONE, Bro!
i've owned stihl's for years and have never had any problem with them other than regular maintenance things. one of the best chainsaws made in my opinion
100% agree.
You know ive been a husqvarna guy for 18 years. There some damn good saws. However I just got my first stihl last month Ms362c. I'm fixing to buy another stihl, LOL!
That's the exact saw I bought in October. It is an absolute stud for its size class.
Maybe it's the newer ones. I have an old 028 Super and it still works great. I bought the last one when the 026 was coming out. Glad I did, they were the same price. I did have to re-build the carb once though because of ethanol. It's very easy to do BTW. DIY vids are on YT. It's the metering diaphragm that goes bad. I only use premium gas now and marine grade stabilizer.
026 for 28 years, carb when ethanol first became a problem. Stihl running, as of Saturday.
I've always heard the still spiked on the chainsaw are called "Dogs"
You would be correct
' Dawgs '
We call them bucking spikes.
STIHL's term is "bumper spike".
Dogs
Stihl MS290 user here. I cut 10 to 15 cd wood per year, and have NEVER had any sort of problem such as fuel splashing out of the saw, or so on. No mysteries, no faults....this saw has been 100% dependable in all conditions for 5+ years. Choke it, 3 pulls to first start...flip to 'run', and first pull - every time, hot or cold out. Original spark plug. This is one hell of a piece of machinery, from my point of view.
Day and nigh pro and home use 290 vs ms461 iron Mike Tyson saw know out power lots of it and that trippy timing and hot 🔥 exsust gas injection system stratification it's a saw on steroids the ms 461 holy moly and what is sad it discontinued but if you own one all you have to do is take care of it because it can be rebuilt usually piston and rings and they still have sleeves put in the cylinders so your soul will last for a lifetime it's just that you can't go out and buy one I may be wrong on the sleeve replacement I believe it's just honing and putting another piston in and if you did that just one more time that means you going to get another 20 years out of your saw if you take care of it right the first 20 and one more 20 laughing out loud it really depends on how much you use it I'm going to say you'll get every bit of 10 -12 more years the second round if you rebuild that saw piston and rings and Reed valve new carburetor flywheel and all the timing mechanism stays good forever as long as you keep it clean in there the worst thing could go wrong as a coil and most any of the bigger saws they're all the same as a four-pole coil
The whole vapor lock deal is dumb, the videos that I've seen, where the saws do this, the saw has been left in the sun thus causing gas vapor to build up. The videos show the person going to open the tank and they do it super fast which lets out all the pressure at once, which in turn sprays them. I did 4 years of non active fire, fire mitigation with a local company, and the main thing they told us about the Sthil saws was not to leave them in the sun. With some of the extreme heat we were working in (115 degrees+), plus leaving your saw in the hot sun, after running straight for an hour could cause low level fuel boiling. Which in turn, if the gas cap was open fast with out venting the pressure first, could spray in your face, with the potential to melt your skin (Yikes). If you flip up the handle and turn the cap 1/4 turn it will vent, then you can open it fully to fuel or do whatever you need to do.
I got sprayed once, when a coworker used my saw. I had left mine in the shade, as co-boss of the crew, I had to step away to help someone who had hurt their ankle, and while i was gone from the site (2+ hrs), a fellow crew member had used my saw. They had left it in the sun after that, then stuck it in the shade just minutes before I returned to it. When I picked it up I realized that is was light like it needed to be refueled. So I carried it to the fueling area (near our vehicles on a tarp) and set it down across from our crew boss. I quickly opened the cap, not knowing that it had been left in the sun, and got a face full of what little gas remained in the tank. It was sure hot, but not quite face melting hot yet. My crew boss scrabbled over to me, to see if I needed to be medevac-ed to the hospital, I had pretty bad burns on my lower face (thank god for eye protection), but nothing that required a medevac, via helicopter. Any ways I have rambled quite enough, just let the tank vent first before popping it open! Oh one more thing, heres a video of some of the work we did. Enjoy!
czcams.com/video/x4HfvTZ9Zbg/video.html
Stihl is at the mercy of the EPA, the clean air gurus don't want chainsaws to vent any hydrocarbons into the atmosphere, so this is why one way check valves are used in tank vents creating a huge fire safety issue. It's not just Stihl though. Safety gas cans also a huge problem, no vent cap. When your 2 gal. can becomes a 3 gal. can while sitting in the sun, yep huge problem.
I've been cutting with chain saws for over 40 years and have owned many brands. My very first saw was a Stihl 041G with a large bow on it. Bows were used for short wood pulpwood harvesting. That "G" on the "041G" stands for a gear saw. There was a gearbox built onto the side of the saw which reduced the chain speed but increased torque dramatically. You could lay the bow on a log at idle and give it the gas and the chain would start cutting immediately. It wouldn't hang up and bog the engine down as a non-gear. Despite being a great saw it vibrated quite a bit and would often back out screws which held the saw together. It was a constant maintenance task. To attest to the toughness of Stihl chain saws, the previous owner of the G saw had run straight gas in it and it locked up. The repair shop wanted hundreds of dollars to fix it. I bought it for $25 from the individual, took it apart, replaced the piston ring, fired it up, and began cutting. I ran it for 15 years thereafter. That saw has since been retired and I currently run two other Stihl's: a 72cc 038 Magnum and a 026.
Obviously there are the Husqvarna users who tout their brand but I've always stuck with Stihls. I used to work at a distribution center for a major tool sales company. While walking by the docks one day I saw container after container of Husqvarna saws being off loaded from China. I also observed all of the Husqvarna's in the Returns department. I'll never buy a consumer grade Husqvarna simply for those observations.
Dad was a hotshot for 20 years, a jumper for two seasons. When he taught my how to run a saw, it was his 044 magnum. My current boss, another forest service vet, his favorite saws are his pair of 044 magnums.
Just a very balanced saw, can run it all day, have enough power you need for 95% of trees in my area, and it doesn't seem to vibrate as much as the newer 461s (another great saw btw).
Just bought my 1st chainsaw, I am glad I ran into your videos. I have learned a lot and I am fortunate not to have started cutting until I watch what's needed before cutting. There is much more to this then I ever thought. Thank you.
Love it....every time I get my camera out the wind starts howling! And my rooster starts crowing!!
Hey Stoney Ridge! I’m a trucker fan, I enjoy watching your videos
Great video! I carry about the same thing, other things I like to have are a thin file to clean up the bar just in case the chain way gets a bur in it, a small tube of grease to apply to the roller bearing at the end of the day, some fuel tank sealant in case of a tank crack, and a torx screw driver to be able to remove any screws on the saw. I love my Stihl 660.
This guy has told me so much stuff in a very short space of time. If it was my first day on the job, I would love to be trained by this guy!
I live in London, I don't know why I'm watching a video about chain saws... but I'm glad I am.
slipstreamjc get out there and enjoy the forest!
Me too! The closest we come to a wildland fire is when kids set light to the bin outside the co op 😂
trees don't fall in jolly ole England. good to know.
MrCheckitout123 wow that almost made sense...... keep trying there sport you will get it one day.
yeah that was a pretty goofed comment.
I just started checking out your videos. I like them, I laugh sometimes when you say things like a real man. My Grandpa who taught me to fall trees and work in the woods. Responsible foresting trees for lumber and pulp for the paper mills. He would always say when I would ask him about using the safety things out there for cutting, real men don't need those things. Later on in life I noticed these real men would be half death, missing toes or other things would be wrong. I'm glad to see you are actually using the proper gear. It took me going in the army to see safety gear is a good thing. I also like how your teaching your boy and you showing it here helps me to see how I can teach my boys. Good job thanks for the videos.
I asked grand dad "grand dad, why did you buy an aluminum wedge?" And grand dad said "SHUT UP AND GET BACK TO WORK!!!!"
Chicken Fried Bobcat. ...yup 😇👍
Your granddad sounds like my dad.
Hello Cody, I agree with everything you have said but I would recommend a stump vise. It is a fancy thing I know I don’t need but it really does make sharpening in the field a lot more enjoyable. Keep up the good work
I have always filled the oil chamber first! on all my chainsaws and I have never had the trouble of fuel spurting out on any of my saws including all the various Stihls I have owned and used extensively over many years.
I call BS we use stihls all day everyday commercially and we have absolutely no issues with vapor locking and we are at 10,000 ft above sea level.
Yeah I never had an issue, used an 044/046 064 commercially since 1998 and never once had a vapor lock issue. Or a gas cap issue, maybe the new ones with the floppy caps?
Personally encountered some issues last summer on some crazy hot days where if the saw was left in the sun it would vapour lock. Was two different Sthil saws and one guy with a husky. All saws doing the same thing.
The best saw bar covers I've ever used were sections of old firehose with a couple of relief cuts to make them slip on and off easy. Firehose is tuff stuff but you can crease it with an old iron to make it form fit.
Thank you for the info! I'm trying to learn all I can for the fire department and there is a lot of factors I havnt thought of. Love the setup!
my job on fighting forest fires was running the fireplow-a 1968 john deere 350 with a home made 6' V-blade on the front and a plow on the back(that info for those that don't know about fireplow lol)
Last items to suggest: two extra fuel filters and something to fish out the old one (filter) in the tank. A stiff wire with a hook bend in it?
Depending on your air filter type, how about a stiff toothbrush for cleaning air filters?
And some hemostats/medical forceps (You can find cheap ones at swap meets or gunshows).
Not a logger but worked on a lot of demo saws and chainsaws. Small, cheap hemostats are your friend when dealing with fuel lines and fitting them into the tank, and onto the primer bulb and carb fittings. Look for the ones with rounded jaws.
Hemostats sold at Walmart in the fishing equipment as "hook removers"
Michael Dougfir damn, i always stuck my finger in and snaked out the filter.
Ronald Reed: Hi Ron,
Through the years I have used many brands and types of chainsaw. With a number of them I did just as you said. However the configuration of some saws fights against this. So it's no problem to get the fuel filter with a hooked wire. Why would anyone speak against this?
In addition, I carry a few more parts than I could use because some woodsmen need an occasional rescue. It is my pleasure to help my neighbour, but you never know what type of saw they will have. It's like carrying jumper cables or a tow chain in your truck. Sometimes using them is for someone elses benefit. Not yours.
This is more like helping your neighbour, not your ego. Ego is dangerous in the woods and has no place there.
A lot of guys in the woods have some wacky ideas about various things. If I help them out, I can often give them the secondary benefit of my experience. Otherwise they, and even some CZcamsrs, don't always listen very well.
You love listen to the sound of your own voice shut the hell up
The firefighter videos are some of my favorite! Thanks for the info and overview. Very informative!
Another great feature you did not mention on your saw is that wrap around handle. When I was on a type-1 and crew. I worked my way onto the saw. When I was on the line I carried extra parts for the soccer teams. You may want to get a fuel filter and an extra cap. That is a lot of stuff for one man to carry plus his line gear. You are a stud, Thanks for the great content keep up the good work. Congratulations on 1 million subscribers. You are a valuable asset to CZcams
I am excited because I am being promoted in the Maryland Park Service. Now I get to take the Wildfire training and hopefully this time next year get to get out there and do my part. Thank you for these videos because they have helped me to be better at my job.
I recommend an extra circlip for the clutch drum. Ive seen it many times where it flies off into the bush never to be seen again
Log Teeth or pivoting claws
Thank you for covering how the western firefighter is decked out and trained. I appreciate you. From my teens I'm up into my 30's, i spent 21 years as a volunteer Rescue/Firefighter. I was raised visiting a fire-station; after school every day, so it was in my blood! I was a journeyman Machinist/Tool & Die Maker and switched professions when we wrte forced to share trade secrets abroad, and I went to Electrician, and I spent the next 30 years patching circuits. My true love, though, was fighting fire and Rescuing the helpless!
I, very much, appreciate the Professional Firefighters. I never got paid for firefighting, and when my town changed-over to paid, from privately owned, they asked me to come on and I declined. Is told them I HAD A JOB...I couldn't come in just anytime because of that, but mainly, I did the Fire ans Rescue because I Loved It! I could MAKE A DIFFERRNCE, and it not been be a MONEY THING. I've missed it, a long time! I still give the thumbs-up as they sirene by! I'm too old, now...anyway. I'm close to 70. Thanks again, for all you do!
Thanks for the video. Good to get clear straightforward information. Well done.
Dad spent many summer months fighting fire in western states. I clearly remember the smell of slurry and burnt Nomex. As a fire boss, he had a couple of guys who could run a saw like a brain surgeon. They could make a tree fall like a figure skater...up hill.
He used a fire rake or a pulaski. Down South, his nickname was "Little Dozer." He raked a line around small fires in his church clothes, much to mom's displeasure.
Can you help me to get a chainsaw Stihl chainsaw your program is very informative I do not even know where to buy one I cannot afford an expensive one just a good one enough
I don't have a number for them are there any us
Great video! I don’t need a big saw, love my Stihl 028 & 028 Super. My friend who owned an old time hardware store steered me that direction 30 years ago & never regretted it. I’ve cut down 36” diameter oaks with these saws. Both are still going strong. I believe their among the best medium saws Stihl ever made.
Kaw River Chopper I have an 028AV Wood Boss and love it.
Bought a new 034 farm boss in 93. It cut 25 to 30 cord of firewood a year until 2010. I put a spark plug in it once.
In '90 I bought the new MS 024 AV - Electronic.
A new carb-set & sparkplug (plus 40 cm bar and chaines) were the only items to replace. It's still doing it's job as it was a new. No scratches on the piston & super compression. I do use the original Stihl two-stroke oil.... My dealer said that 024-026-028 were the best Stihl ever made. I should hang on to the 024 'for life'... his words.
I agree they are good saws but I think if you guys try an 036 Pro, MS360, 046, or a MS460, you would throw rocks at your 028's and 024's. The four I mentioned were more expensive but weigh hardly any more than the 028 and have twice the power. To each their own.
Out of all your videos, I think this one is my favorite. Very educational, showed me how to prep my sthil saw gear. Thanks
I can never learn enough about chainsaw safety, thanks, well done
You should carry extra starter pawls and a spring clip. They break and the saw won't start without them. I usually just carried a complete starter in my pack for speed and simplicity. You also need a torx driver in your kit to work on the saw and keep the screws tight. You should check all the screws you can see every time you do maintenance.
@ 14:55 Time for a three part video series on re-pointing the edge on those orange wedges.
Thank you Sir. I don't plan on going Fire Fighting, but your incite helps at least to understand what the job entails and the thought process.Great video/
Cheer.
thank you for sharing your experience
Those spikes are called “dogs”
Not by the manufacturer, they are bucking /felling spikes.
Austin, you should try to make a youtube video just for the fun of it., Don't even publish it, just set up a camera then try filming yourself describe or teach something. I think you might be surprised how stupid you suddenly become. it happens to everyone.
If you knew so much PLEASE make a video.... oh wait your just jealous and can't :O
Beat me to it...
He's done a lot of videos where he has got the name right. It's not that he doesn't know it. I like Cody's videos because he does long cuts and shows his mistakes. He could do 2 minute cuts and get everything spot on but he is human. I mean, this is youtube, he could have just paused it, googled it and done another take.
Love this video! Last weekend I got qualified as a Sawyer 1 with Team Rubicon. We primarily use Stihl MS261Cs but we also use the 441c and 461cs. Those saws are gigantic. They are an order of magnitude greater in power in all respects. My respect for folks that can manage those has certainly increased.
Casey those are still only medium saws to most guys who do trees on a daily basis. I use a MS 650 and MS 661 every day.
Thanks.
You haz herd of Stihl MS 880? Taller than a man!
+Fritz How about a Stihl 090? 137CC rated @ 13 HP, 30.6 lbs. (powerhead only) verses 880 with 121.6CC rated @ 8.6 HP, 22.3 lbs. (powerhead only)
I made one of those aluminum ax carriers for my forest ax when working trees around the homestead and I love it. Sit, squat, bend over - it never gets in the way or falls out but is right there when I need it at a natural reach. Smartest, non-common sense thing I've ever come across.
Thanks. I enjoy your videos. I respect your presentations. You forest firefighters are all heroes. You all put your lives on the line every time you go out. Sadly, we lost some in Ca. this year. A couple of years back, some pilots were lost when they made a pass to drop their load of retardant on a fire up near Ukiah. Terrible. These fires are living, breathing beasts that consume everything in their path and have no mercy. I still find it hard to believe what happened in Santa Rosa last year. Entire residential neighborhoods were consumed. Thank you for your service.
“Bucking spikes” or also I’ve heard them called “log dogs”
Also “felling spikes”
You might consider tying a chip brush on a cord attached to your fuel/oil can so you can dust off the sawdust off before adding fuel or oil.
A golf ball with a small hole drilled in it makes a fantastic file handle. They are free if you walk the edges of a golf course.
Your channel is awesome, I get a lot of good advice from you from boots to equipment to advice. Thank you
Love the chainsaw videos, I found this channel searching for chainsaw tips, keep em coming.
Could you do a video talking about ticks? Your experiences with them, etc? You must've come in contact with quite a few.
I live in Stuttgart near Waiblingen where Stihl saws are produced. I run vegetable oil in my Stihl to keep my bar and chain oiled. Dolmar is a brand of Chainsaw. Probably call the gas/oil can a Dolmar like we say Kleenex to any tissue.
Dolmar is also the name of the mountain in Germany, from which the saw company chose to use as it's name, as the company was located nearby.
davidhintz1 I'll bet it smells like fried chicken after cutting a few trees?
Veg oil has no tack, use bio based BAR oil much better. knew a guy who ran veg oil all his bars were burnt.
Veggie oil? Lol. Good bar oil is real sticky.
Fantastic you carry two sets of files considering how much you enjoy helping others. Never know if someone else need to borrow.
Just had a fuel geyser on my older than dirt stihl 011 avt 16 inch today. Been learning about it all day thanks to you and guys like you. I appreciate the info.
I've gone thru the firefighters school and the only thing they didn't teach us was how to properly use ur chainsaw-they asked the class how many of us had at least 100 hours on using a chainsaw-all the class-and thats why they didn't teach chainsaw use-however when i was working as a forest ranger i wasn't allowed to use the chainsaw because i didn't receive that training(I've had over 1000hours on chainsaw usage
+Idus Welton
You know what you don't have enough hours of? Putting periods at the end of sentences.
Did you forget how to write or just ignorant?
Be a knot bumper on a landing for a summer and you will learn how to sharpen an saw LOL.
They only let you give one thumbs up. Lots of good tips here. The other day looking at my wrench set I wish I had a tool roll. That fire hose canvas would do the trick. A friend working landscaping plunged the saw into his calve, miraculously he didn't hit an artery, but chaps or that first aid kit could save your life. Spare parts save you down time and help get the job done. So much for the obvious with your experience, but to a newbie it's a game changer. Thanks for sharing
Your explanation of the vapor lock issue is exactly what is going on with an MS200T i acquired from an angry arborist. He threw it down from 20ft after it quit running for no reason.
Thanks for mentioning this... its renewed interest for me to try and make it functional.
you're a good man, you and me had words over something a while back...I thought you were just blowing smoke and this video proves me wrong...I apologize and appreciate the fact that you put out quality content
what about the filing tool that you have shown in a previous video ? didnt you say that it is working fast and great. why dont use that
mf hero check the latest comments on that video. A stihl rep commented. Always best to bring a conventional file.
Wow. Stuff I’ll never use but found the information fascinating. The fire fighters working on a brush fire or the forest fires are a special breed of people. I’m so grateful for all the work they do here in California and around the world.
Scenic Area Shout Out! Great recap on the Stihl vapor lock issue to be aware of and solid saw kit. We are lucky to have Roland.
Teach these wildfire guys to read, the warning label clearly reads "don't open near open flame..."
LOL that's kind of problematic for the wildfire guys...since the reason they are there is to get an open forest fire under control, they are often near open flames all day long. It's not like they can just jump in the truck and just move back away from a little bon fire or something, so they can service their saw.
We refuel in the black, so this is not an issue. We don’t bring the fuel canister near the fire line...
John C. Jenkins, II
Yes indeed, we walk away from the fire to service the saws.
@@paftaf but if your saw sprays you with gas, you probably don’t wanna rush back up to a fire after.
@@elliotaddler2302
True.
The name of the "Dollmar" gas can comes from the German Dollmar Company (now a part of Makita), a producer of chainsaws. They were the first ones to sell a double can like the one you use.
Great Video!
Interesting. Dolmar is owned by Makita. Pretty certain Makita has been slowly fading out the Dolmar name. German made professional grade chainsaws. Love mine
Dolmar sold those double gas/oil cans and their name was stamped into them.
After a while they just got to be called Dolmars.
whats the point, is it bar oil?
@@cindybarth8910 Yes. 2.5 gallons of gas and a gallon of bar oil. When I cut professionally, I ran a Stihl 064 with a 36" bar, and this would get me through 6 hours of cutting. When I cut, OSHA only allowed 6 hours. So we packed into our unit on our time. Then they wanted 6 hours as fast as you could cut, with no breaks except to quickly gas up or change a chain. Then pack back out on your time. You end up with 7 hours of work, 4 hours of driving, and an hour of chain grinding, jug filling, etc. Hard 12 hour days.
@@yotaismygame I started with a Husky, then moved to Stihl. (less vibration) Mostly an 064 with 36" bar. But also ran a big Sachs Dolmar with a 60" bar for when we got into big timber. Not many people have heard of them.
Excellent video and information! Thank you!
@wranglestar your vids are great, u present really well with good informal details. keep up the good work mate.
Of all the brands of chainsaws I've used, I found Stihl to be the best.
You ain't tryed jonsereds
I like my Husqvarna more than my Stihl. But my husky is a pro saw, and my Stihl is a mid range. Same cc's but the husky packs way more punch, and is bomb proof.
Try some others
@@dmythica My Stihl is pro grade so that probably makes all the difference
Chainsaw preference is like car/truck preference, everybody has their own. Stihl, Husky, Echo vs Chevy, Ford, Dodge. On a personal level I’ve had both Stihl’s and Husky’s in home owner, farm and pro saw classes. All are comparable but my absolute fav go to saw, without a doubt, is a Stihl MS-261CM with an 18” bar and full chisel chain. It’s an awesome piece of equipment.
@ 15:30 Leave the file handle at home and take a golf ball with you. Just drill the proper sized hole for the tang. Half the size and weight and you may learn to prefer the shape.
Cody even did a video on that. I was taken back when his kit failed to have it and failed to have a device from another video about the Stihl chain sharpener. Guess it turned out to be something bad for him?
That’s one of those why didn’t think of that tips ; thank you
Codi, Don't forget your Torx wrench because there are a ton of them on Stihl saws. I carry at least 4 big wedges because you need them for the larger trees or heavy leaners you need to fall the other way. I also carry a CAT-7 tourniquet and Israeli medical bandage in a small first aide kit for safety. Been a firefighter for over 22 years and certified as a level 1 Faller which is the highest level, (C- Faller in the old system). Have a safe fire season!
Always love the historical or factual info.
Put a 3-4 '' Broken piece of hack saw blade in the kit the broken end digs out the bar chain slot a clean slot is a cooler bar because more oil can flow ,some bar edges turn blue from over tightened chain /dirty slot
Great video!!
I started carrying extra chainsaw parts cause of an old video you did. And I was like that makes sense to have those when your miles away from a trail head. That is miles away from nowhere. Which is miles away from somewhere. That’s not near anything.
There is a video about an improvised chainsaw vise from a tree stump that was really useful. Cut a tree down that is like 4” round. Cut it like elbow high. And you can wedge the chainsaw bar in it to work on it easily. I think it was by Swedish homestead or something like that.
What about a Stump Vise?
Do you use one or sharpen on the Saw?
That is a nice video for tree fallers and for the home owners as well who use chainsaws for cutting down trees. I have a Stihl chainsaw which is difficult to crank and is wondering why it is that way. I tried the way the guys at the repair shop showed me, but it is different than the recommended ways the saw companies recommend and I hate doing it where it is dangerous to me as the operator. After having three saws with the same problem I purchased a battery saw which only require the chain oil and it works just fine, but I can't cut large limbs or trees with it.
Great video! Gave me some good tips . I’m not a professional by any means but great general info. Thanks
Stihl's little secret? Not hardly. The Forestry Service in letter 7100 March 21, 2018 concerning "geysering" like you mentioned are in error. For a number of years the Wildfire S-212 course which is required for all Forest Service firefighters operating chainsaws specifically addressed the issue of fuel spraying and how to very easily avoid it. Firefighters were instructed to allow the saw to cool before refueling, as with virtually all manufacturers of gas engines made today, Never fill a hot engine. For unknown reasons which no one has commented on, that part of the training in the S-212 course was dropped in 2012 and has only been re-introduced just lately. Stihl chainsaws are very well designed and compliant with ANSI chainsaw standards. ALL Stihl saws are equipped with a venting system that allows fuel to flow into the carburetor preventing leakage. Some manufacturers use two-way vents which allow the risk of uncontrolled fuel leakage. The Forest Service has relied on Stihl equipment for decades and has an approximate 7,500 chainsaws. Buy Stihl. There is no "Dirty Little Secret", just a lack of proper training and common sense.
This guy is something else. I think he watches other CZcams videos then tries to put it all together like he knows something.
Plus when you're refueling you're either dry or there's so little left it's not an issue. Common sense always taught me to slowly open any gas cap that COULD be under pressure. Stihl all the way!
I have been a professional timber cutter since 1978. I have used STIHL for almost all of that time and never had a problem with the "geysering" issue. I generally don't waste time fueling my saw unless it runs out....
Roy Hendrick III, the problem with running it out is you are leaning the saw out a little every time you do that. Over time you are causing light scoring that will reduce compression and shorten life.
Lol Randy prolly Ceo of Sthil
MAybe chain saw guys that have goggles for 5 days a year put them around their necks but Ironworkers that use their burning goggles every day for years on end put then on their hard hat. . When you need them, you need them right now. ot after taking off your hard hat and fiddeling with them. (Been on the steel since 1965)
Respect. A very well prepared fire fighter and logger. The "captured nuts" Stihl uses now is so nice as far as losing clutch cover nuts. And I STILL keep spares with me. As well as clutch springs.
Lots of great tips here that can be used from homeowners to professionals.
"Dolmar" is the style of gas can made by "Dolmar", as in "Sachs Dolmar", a German chainsaw manufacturer. In 1927, Emil Lerp, the founder of Dolmar, developed the world's first gasoline-powered chainsaw and mass-produced them. The Sachs Dolmar company was sold to Japanese tool manufacturer Makita in 1991.
yes I agree and I was dolmar dealer until they left the usa market was the best saw I ever had the dolmar I also have some old sachs dolmar including the 166 was the best saw ever made I have had all the others and stihl always let me down
how close are you going to be standing to a ignition source when you are going to refuel your saw i under stand that its a problem but really how if you are going to be pouring gas into the saw i cant imagine that you would be standing right next the a fire where the vapor lock would be a problem
Exactly. The bigger problem is probably the gas spilled over your clothes, which doesnt evaporate fast enough before you go back near the fire (not meaning a big fire but perhaps a burnt and still glowing tree that you are cutting out of the way).
Not to mention, if your fueling your saw, wouldn't it be empty and just be "vapor". "Just gotta stop here for a minute and put fuel in my saw that's half full"
I got an older O38 Super. put a new piston and tuned it up, great saw! ! !
Part of the reason for the pressure build up in the tank is the EPA put a mandate on the tank vents which created this problem. The tank vents are pretty much a check valve which let's air but not out, because they used to let some fuel leak.
He said, "reach a round!"
What happened to the Stihl Chainsaw chain sharpener?
Wondering the same thing. It may be too long to fit in the bag.
Will - he got laughed at by the pros the first time he pulled it out! 😂
great advice from someone who actually DOES what he is giving advice about ... makes sense ... very worth watching ... though i used to top trees in my foolish youth ... and gather cones ... and other death defying stunts ... many with chainsaws ... i learned some myself ... well done, keep giving good advice ... love it
I have a spring-loaded shut off nozzle on my mix jug. Didn't like it at first but got used to perfect fillups with no spillage. Got a loop of thin power cord compression knotted to my scrench, it goes over the spout on the fuel jug, never lost it and don't have to carry it on my person but it's still very handy when filling up and tightening the chain. I'm running a smaller saw with a shorter bar so usually don't have to tighten chain between fill-ups.
I have to sing the praises of replaceable tip log or pulp hooks. They are more than worth their weight in gold. Forester brand are getting hard to find and have to have their junk handles replaced before using them but what a great tool!
I'm home every night to bench grinder sharpen my chains so would never even consider hand filing in the field. I don't care how good of a hand filer you think you are (you're not near as good as you think you are!) you can't compete with a bench grinder. I'll get WAY WAY more life out of my chains by bench sharpening them than someone hand filing them will. And, it's cheaper. Round files have gotten expensive!
That watch is bothering you
it's too heavy
Probably a gift, its kinda huge.
It Drives Me Nuts Watching Him Shake It All The Time, Even Distracting.
When I'm working and my hands are all dirty I can't be bothered to take out my phone and I quicky check the time on my wrist. It's also a great fashion accessory, haha
clearly not working real dirt if you can manage to keep a watch on your wrist
No...your oil tank is half the size and needs filled everytime but uses half as much in volume as the fuel and the reason for a 2:1 fuel tank (Dolmar)
What he said isn't incorrect. It just wasn't the best explanation.
You might consider keeping an extra chain tensioner assembly. I have had those break on several occasions. It will put an end to your day pretty quick
thanks for sharing your info it's incredibly valuable. I have decided to stop taking my equipment to the dealership shops. they are expensive compared to doing things yourself. after having watched some of your videos I have learned a fair bit. I have more confidence now thanks to you.
Stihl saw did use odd numbers for homeowner and farm saws, the even numbers for pro saws.
I ran an 044 arctic stihl for years for both felling and firefighting.
We had 20 inch bars on our saws for firefighting which was still a bit of overkill since when fire fighting forest fires its the underburden and small trees you want to take down and cut up ahead of the fire so it could be bulldozed. Most of our forest firefighting saws were Stihl 026 with 18 inch bars.
Felling saws in our area of Ontario Canada harvesting Eastern White pine we liked to use 24 inch bars to fell 36 inch dia timber and under. It was the safest combination, less down time sharpening than a 30 inch bar and chain, lighter and not cumbersome and not a problem for experienced cutters to take down large timber.
We always had longer and shorter bars in the office trailer if needed.
Stihl pro saws have two compression rings which was why they had so much power for the cc displacement compared to the jobber saws, and other brands
They reved lower than husqvarna, echo, jonsered saws but had more power than any of them of the same displacement, and lasted twice as long due to the robust cylinder, piston and ring set-up.
They were slightly heavier but minimal.
The prosaws are all comparable, and like chevy versus ford.
I prefer Stihl as my favorite pro saws.
The 044 was one of the hardiest saws ever made. It had all the right internal parts for longevity, stroke, piston, cylinder displacement were perfectly matched for a GREAT saw..
Kinda like the sbc,350, its was built to spec and lasted which is why over 100 million of the gen one sbc 350's were made and unchanged for decades..
Wearing the goggles on the hard hat also stretches the elastic out. Becomes less effective over time.
Lmao who cates
Great video Cody, I was recently told by my local saw dealer that the Forest Service is buying all Husqvarna saws now. So even though they are a Stihl dealer and Stihl won't let them display Huskys out front, they are keeping them in stock in the back. What they didn't tell me was why the government quit buying Stihl. So thanks for that info.
Have a husq mower junk junk
I'll never by a hush anything ever again. Also I have seen 3_4hasq
That caught on fire
Thanks I'm a choke setter and limber and bucker on a logging crew very informative
I am a professional arborist and use various Stihls both pro and consumer models and have never experienced this., I have just purchased 2 new trimming saws and don't experience vapor lock. The saws work great, cut well and are reliable. leave it to the government to cry wolf when experiencing any problem.
I am a city worker its not a problem for me but i have had it happen
My 2017 391 sprays fuel when you open the fuel tank when its hot.
How is your foot doing?
I carry in my tool box a large size nut like 1/2 inch that will slip over the bar nut studs holding the cover on that you have to remove to change chains. I take the cover off and immediately slip the larger nut on a stud and then tighten down the bar with a regular bar nut. The reason you need to do that to keep the bar firmly in place is because the threads do not go all the way down to the bar. Now you can remove and install the chain quickly because the bar will not slip off the tightening tang.
I've always worn my eye wear around my neck to keep it out of the way. I got the habit from snowboarding/ motorcycle riding. Whenever I don't I lose them. Also it's more convenient than having to remove your hat/helmet to get the elastic where it needs to be.
Cutting your chaps shorter than the top of your boots is a bad call unless you're sure you won't hit your shin. It happened to me
Also this probably isn't a problem in your part of the country but the rattlers are bad here and it's easy to get hit when you're stomping around in brush. Good leather boots and chainsaw chaps protect your legs pretty well, unless you cut them short.
why got chainsaw not chainsaw helmet whit ear and visor
add some e clips to your replacement kit sometimes they can shoot out when you’re trying to put it back in..
Good catch on the clutch springs. I didn't think about that one. Same for the wear pad too.
I hope I didn't miss these if you actually said them, but in addition to your pilot bearing, carry an extra e-clip or two for if you have to take the clutch off... because, as you know, they can be easy to lose. Also, carry an extra fuel filter. I also keep an air filter in my truck box.... but not necessarily in my field box/bag.
Did anyone else notice he makes a video about his saw kit every fire season, like pretty much the same video every year.
i guess he does add a few things to it every year but its like deja vu every year
They havent made a stihl all in one sharpener yet?
I LOVE mine for my farm boss
They have one, it's called the 2 in 1 and it's made by Pferd. I just used my Pferd one today to sharpen both my chains.
Ammo boxes are really nice for storing stuff too!
I like the tether for the bar wrench tool. I made a holster clip for mine and keep it strapped to the oil can, never to be lost.