The COOLEST Character From the Fellowship of the Ring That Wasn't in the Film
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- The Lord of the Rings adaptations were amazing, but no film can include EVERY character from the book. In this video we take a look at five creations of J. R. R. Tolkien that didn't make the cut, including the coolest one of all.
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Gasp, I'll probably never watch Peter Jackson's The Fellowship of the Ring the same way again.
Or even Ralph Bakshi's 1978 rotoscoped animated feature also omitted all these characters you've just mentioned, which was the first ever on-screen adaptation of J. R.R. Tolkien's Middle Earth saga in our Earthly human history.
Tom Bombadil was going to play himself in the film, but Peter Jackson refused to pay him in acorns and bees.
the syndicate would pbl not allow that either
amazing
This got a legit laugh out of me.
This is an amazing joke. You win the internet today.
He probably said yes and then forgot about it.
Me: There's no way there's a cooler character than my boy Glorfindel.
Dom: Farmer Maggot
Me: You did it. The crazy son of a bitch, you did it.
That's Chaos!
That was my actual first guess
the yorkshire accent was also a treat
i actually ended up speechless...hes right
Glorfindel was my guess, and Dom had me trolled so hard during that entry when he slammed Maggot down on the table I was so caught off guard it was amazing.
How to instantly win the war of the ring
"Tom, did no one tell you what Sauron has been saying about your wife?"
all of mordor would be hearing boss music
A fun thought, but he'd just laugh it off as irrelevant.
@@Lleanlleawrg yes, due his absolutely non-toxic masculinity, he'd recognize that what other men (if that even applies here) think about his wife doesn't matter because who gives a shit?
In other news, who knew that Tom Bombadil’s boss music was Down With the Sickness?
In other news, who knew that Tom Bombadil’s boss music was Down With the Sickness?
Tom was the first wife guy
Maggot has gotta have the best “get off my lawn” moment in the history of literature. Tearing a strip off a freaking Nazgul. No wonder Frodo lived in fear of the guy all his young life.
Yet he dared to steal mushrooms from the guy. Hobbits, man.
Not just any Nazgûl, Khamûl of the East, the second mightiest of the bunch
I did love the fact that even as a 50-year-old, Frodo is still terrified of Farmer Maggot.
Let's have a shoutout to my man, Fatty Bolger, the Pete Best of the hobbits, who not only played decoy for Frodo to keep his departure from the Shire a secret for as long as possible, evading three black riders in the process, but also showed the mark of a true friend, by helping Frodo pack up his house and move his furniture.
I thought for sure it was gonna be Fatty
And then starve himself close to death out of loyalty to his friends at the end
It should have been fatty!
He does all of the grown-up work of helping Frodo prepare for his journey and covers his ass and gets left behind while the rest of them go on adventures and no one ever remembers him. He is the most relatable hobbit.
And became a badass partisan leader, don't forget that.
You omitted the fact that Frodo had been terrified of Maggot for the longest time after having been caught one too many times stealing mushrooms. Which the farmer himself apparently thought somewhat fondly of regardless and Frodo admitted he had missed out on a great friend because of that fear.
YES! It irks me in the film when Frodo says, "Have you been in Farmer Maggot's crop again?" Like, no Frodo. That was you.
@@LadyEowyn but our Good Boy must be without fault or personality and Pippin must be shown to be ‘irresponsible’ and ‘kind or awful’
I love how Maggot ironically (unironically?) gives Frodo a basket of mushrooms
@@christiansky942 He was given them exactly because he clearly liked them so much to face this absolute chad.
One of the funniest and sweetest...? Things about this interaction is that Sam's pouting in the background the entire time because he "did not take kindly to people who had beat his master, no matter how long ago".
It's been awhile since I read the books but I think he soffens up after maggot gives them mushrooms.
Replacing Radagast by moth is also probably one of the reasons people assume that you can just summon the Eagles...
this though
Back in the day I always just assumed Radagast and Gandalf did have that meet up of theirs from the books offscreen and the moth just happened to be one of those friends of Radagast he had asked to go out on patrol and the first one of them to happen to find out that Gandalf was in trouble.
But anyways, yeah, don't know what was stopping them from having just one scene of Gandalf actually talking to the eagles to establish their relationship as friends and mutuals, rather than fueling the notion of them being just some bunch of big birds the wizard has at his beck and call.
The last movie really needed 1 throwaway line of "the Nazgul control the skies/ Sauron's gaze will fell you in Mordor" to quell all these casuals and their 'eagals tho' theories.
This is why I love the Council of Elrond in the book, Tolkien has to account for alternate Ring disposal options as well as deal with all the weird random episodic stuff he threw out there so far.
"Can we throw it in the ocean?"
No, it'll possess an octopus or something."
"Give it to Tom Bombadil?"
"No, that crazy hippie god will get stoned and lose the thing."
"Okay, we'll take it to Mount Doom. Can Glorfindel come? Seems like he can handle himself."
"Heck no. Stealth is key and that MFer literally glows in the dark."
also imagine sauron's reaction if he knew the true king of gondor was coming WITH the strongest elf ever.
@@blitsriderfield4099 the entire host of Mordor would stand in the crack of doom.
He glows!?
Fun fact: That first problem, "If we throw it in the water, it'll posess sealife annd escape", that actually happened in a different story: Walter Moers' 13 1/2 Lives of Captain Bluebear. There, a piece of sentient, psychic rock is thrown into the sea to get rid of it, and it controls some sea animals to get it onto a nearby fishing boat, then it controls the fishers to help it, and eventually, by the time the story takes place, it has the biggest ship one has ever seen under its control, made by welding smaller ships together and mind controlling their crews.
@@hildegunstvonmythenmetz6095 What!? LOL!! That's awesome! 😂
Imagine you are Glorfindel “legendary elf hero” ready to join the fellowship to protect the ring and then Gandalf is like “Sorry G, but the hobbit really wanted to hang with his buddies. His name is Pippin he eats 2 breakfasts 😌”
And the guy screwed it up for the team two times, once in Moria and once with the Palantir
@@86upsmaya noope these things needed to happen to make sure Gandalf the grey became Gandalf the white, also if pippin didn't use the Palantir, Faramir would have died and it also tricked Sauron into thinking he possibly had the ring. Eru(God) definitely had a hand in making sure the good side was going to win.
@@86upsmaya but we need to remember that Pippin has not yet reached the age of Hobbit maturity. A lot of his actions make sense in this context.
Pippin did so much for the Fellowship, accidentally and on purpose. He made some mistakes, but they always turned out for the best, and when the chips were down, Pippin risked it all to help. So underappreciated.
@@LadyEowyn WAIT HE IS A TEENAGER?!? That’s even worse for Glorfinder.
Imagine getting shafted for someone that not only has never held a sword in their life, but also technically hasn’t even finish hobbit puberty.
Man I bet the other elves bullied him about it on the boat ride to Valinor.
Nazgûl: ~~~ Tell ~ me ~ where ~ Baggins ~ is! ~~~
Maggot: No.
Nazgûl: **whispers off-camera** what do i do now
*psst offer him gold. Farmers like gold, right?*
LOL nice 😎
I think that's why Peter changed it lol
Really takes away from the terror of the Nazgul, makes them feel less threatening. A lot of his changes build up the enemy and downplay the good guys. Not necessarily a good thing, but I understand his reasoning.
~ Understandable ~ have ~ a ~ good ~ day ~
@@corruptangel6793 Mind you, for beings that has essentially sold their souls for power, the book Nazgul were pretty ineffectual. E.g. in the movie their chief breaks Gandalf's staff when they come face to face at Minas Tirith, but in the book he just turns around and runs away. Also, they spend most of the pre-Rivendell time on horseback chasing four little people who are on foot, and fail dismally.
Nazgul: "Tell me where the Baggins is and you get gold"
Farmer Maggot: "Hippity Hoppity Git Off My Property"
Oh f*** me, that got me laughing for a good five minutes.
Have to agree farmer Maggot was the toughest hobbit alive until the fellowship returned.
All I'm saying is if I was an ancient demigod, I'd probably also just bumble around in the woods singing songs too.
Exactly!
Hopefully with a hot wife
I guess after a few eons nothing seems more than a fleeting thought.
JRR “let me explain for 5 pages about this character and location that only appears in one chapter” Tolkien
he made it very hard for fantasy authors because his world building was that good
@@nicolebee3283 he also basically invented modern fantasy... So he gets a pass. 😁
@@nicolebee3283 the only fantasy author that come close with Tolkien world building is Eiichrio Oda(the guy who writing one piece) but only because he writing a story that been going on since the late 90s
@@nicolebee3283 Well to be fair, most of them have much less time to develop the worldbuilding. Tolkein was inventing the languages of middle earth for years before he decided to write his stories in order give his linguistic pastime some extra context.
Also Tolkien: Refuse to give a description of Legolas and cackle as thousands fight each other on the topic
I remember the bit where Tom Bombadil looks through the ring with is bright blue eye, creating a parody on the eye of Sauron and the Hobbits laugh and feel a little less afraid. I really like that he lets them laugh at their fears as a gift. It's been years since I read the book but that stuck with me
That's a really nice catch!
awww
awwe
Elves, wizards, and men: locked in an epic struggle of good and evil
Tom Bombadil: VIBING IN THE WOODS
It reminds me a little of both the Traveler and Caduceus Clay, both have simmilar types of energy surrounding them
"Just kinda bopping around the woods, having a good time, and singing how awesome his wife is."
My man.
Much respect to a good husband demi-god.
Dom: It's not Bombadil. *proceeds to show off Bombadil's awesomeness anyway*
Run time dude, plus tons of guys that are bad ass that only the most dankest ‘ best weed in the south farthing ' smoking fan would sit through since it would be two weeks long if uncut.
Even Monty Python had ' Sir not appearing in this film. '
Yeah, pretty badass, basically English Folk Singer Superman, living his best life in the woods with a stunning tall willowy blonde, who totally gets him, all the while not giving even a single...
Whatever, guys. I know many LotR fans including me and my father who definitely aren't fond of Bombadil. Even Tolkien didn't even know why he put him in. He serves as a Deus Ex Machina for exactly two parts in the story and then is never seen again while also weighing the story down as a giant plot hole that Tolkien then had to fill in for the rest of the book.
Hell, even purely considering him as a character, he just wasn't all that entertaining.
For what it's worth, I'm not a big fan of Bombadil either -- I voted for Glorfindel, whose exploits get somewhat shortchanged in Dom's summary (no doubt for runtime and because that would make Maggot look less awesome with every word). But I did think it was amusing and appropriate that Dom did his best to give all the votes their due.
Was just reminded of the national lampoon parody. ' bored of the rings ' that did Include the character. ' Tom Benzedrine ' ( a popular prescription drug to abuse in the 60s and 70s)
It might be that Glorfindel didn't appear because having two cool badass elves played by Orlando Bloom would had been confusing to the audience.
You'd see them bickering with each other in the background of most scenes over who had better hair, and the fights would only escalate as the films went on. By RTK, they'd be fighting over who looked cooler sliding off the trunks of dead Oliphants after slaying them
Could have been worse. Could have been played by Luke Evans XD
It's even funnier because Legolas yoinked Glorfindel's role in the animated version.
@@B2WM bahaha you’re right! I remember watching that, seeing a blonde elf riding up, then Aragorn yells “Legolas!” and I was so confused lol
You know the true badass-ittude of the Hobbits really hit me when one of my best friends explained that a group of four three foot tall beings who had never seen anything resembling combat; carried one of the most evil corrupting forces of their world, faced down hordes of goblins, orcs, a giant ancient spider, a forest of mad trees, an evil spirit strong enough to blight a land, back up a warrior queen against one of the strongest servants of the dark lord, entered a land that would have been a good stand in for hell, and all of it just to protect their friends and home. That is truly badass and I love it.
I love Mrs. Maggot too :
You be careful of yourself, Maggot!" she called, "Don't go arguing with any foreigners, and come straight back!'
The afterlife: "Dude, that was fucking epic. You get a free pass. Get back out there."
Bahahaha
“Hey...I’m gonna send you back to your friends.”
“...Can you not?”
*Ends up in a McDonald’s where a little hippo is eating*
I think Dom realized a Lost in Translation of Lord of the Rings would be an hour and a half and still boil down to, "it's really, really, really good. Like how everyone knows it is."
I'd watch it.
Hour and a half is a shortest version of it lol
Patron gets the Extended Edition.
I recently did a reread of The Lord of the Rings, and Peter Jackson's films misrepresent many of the characters, sometimes quite badly.
@@christopherfiore7456 which in fairness can be an issue of each book cam be 2-3 movies in their own right gat the same length the ones that are out are at
This is Lobelia Sackville-Baggins erasure. She lived for spite and I love that about her.
Lobelia: how badass was she to stand up to Sharkey's ruffians with only her brolly and get carted off to the Lockholes for it?
She'll probably be on the list for Return of the King, which is where most of her relevance is.
You do get to hear her voice in the extended version of Fellowship. Bilbo, whom as we recall, has matched wits with a fecking DRAGON and come out mostly unsigned, opts for the “pretend I’m not home and hope she goes away,” method of combat rather than face Lobelia’s tongue lashing.
LSB FTW
@@patriciaviles4033 she also appeared at the end of Battle of the Five Armies when Bilbo returned home.
My favourite “missing” character is Gloin, Gilmi’s father.
In Rivendell Frodo meets Gloin, older now and there alongside his son Gimli. He appeared, but without speaking lines in the movie. Meanwhile in the book he has a discussion with Frodo which is very nostalgic, it brings him up to speed how’s it been going for dwarves, it foreshadows the events of Moria and generally it is reminder that LotR isn’t as happy and optimistic as Hobbit. Why it wasn’t included is easy though, since they skipped making the hobbit movies until long after the lotr movies including some nostalgia to that wouldn’t make any sense.
However I feel that also represent an aspect the movies left about the dwarves in general and that was their appreciation of beauty. In the books Gimli is the most well articulate of the fellowship, he appreciates beauty and craftsmanship and is very polite towards other people. This is one of the things that represents the dwarves of Norse mythology, but the movies left out. I wouldn’t have minded if not for the fact that it’s the movie version of dwarves that has since become the definitive version of dwarves since, forgetting the wisdom and poetry that Tolkien imbued them with.
I also think the curse of greed isn't that well fleshed out in the Hobbit movies. Thorin just goes from I don't really know Bilbo and don't trust him to I trust him back to I don't trust him because he gave awaythis jewel. It felt much more understandable in the book. This is basically thd dark side of the coin, the flaw that is oart of their attraction to shiny, beautiful things
They butchered the hell out of Gimli to turn him into Legolas' goofy sidekick, when in the books he beats Legolas in both combat and words. Easily the worst adaptational change of the movies.
To be fair, contemporary dwarves were pretty short on wisdom and poetry when the LotR films were being made. It wasn't completely gone, but it still isn't now either.
Tom Bombadils deal is essentially that sometimes eldritch entities are just here to have a good time
I don't find Tom Bombadil "eldritch" at all. He's immune to evil because of his total lack of ambition and his exceedingly kind-hearted worldview. You might as well call the dwarves "eldritch", as they were immune to the effects of the One Ring and even their seven rings couldn't be really abused to influence them towards evil. Notably, Gimli is the only member of the Fellowship that treats the Ring as a trinket he has no interest in or awe over, whatsoever. Dwarves are Tom Bombadil-lite, though for other reasons.
I always saw him as, like, an existence beyond mere man or woodlands or evil or good. He just... is. And woe be those that try to ruin his fun time and his love for his wife.
The best theory is that he's directly connected to or is a manifestation of the music of the Ainur. Which you can call the forces of nature and creation. He also uses song to work his power.
“Are you talking about Radagast the Brown?”
Nobody is talking about Radagast the Brown.
Not even Radagast the Brown is talking about Radagast the Brown.
There's lots of talk about Radagast the Brown, but it's all from mice and sparrows.
aww I like him
Harsh :O
I named my hognose snake Radagast!
What about Sam's horse Bill ? That was the absolute coolest character they forgot !
Bill was in the movie. The problem is that they never say his name until he is sent away at the Gates of Moria.
Bill is seen throughout the journey from Bree, for example: czcams.com/video/e4er8Edq2Go/video.html
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@@briansammond7801 That is a very good point. However, can we really say he was in the movie when he didn't do any of the "Bill's stuff" ? ^^ I would say his character arch got canned even though he technically was present ! ;-)
Bill is so cool he made it back to Hobbiton by himself. What's more, as soon as Bill left the Fellowship is when people started dying. Bill CARRIED the fellowship, and they were goners without him.
In the German version it is called Lutz and that is the most boomer name I can think of xD still loved him, though.
If Quickbeam doesn't get the top spot when you get to the Two Towers we're going to need to have words
Very slow words.. But words.
Now, now, let’s not get, hmmm..... *hasty*
Thought exactly the same.
You're awesome, Ms. Lindsay Ellis!
Quickbeam is respectable choise , but for me the coolest char who DIDNT appear in 2 towers is TREEBEARD !!!
like Farmar Magot , the way the portrait him in the movie is a DISGRACE and SHOULD be ignored.
he WASNT a bumbling cowardly fool like the move describe him , but he KNOW about Saruman and had the plan to deal with him allready made , the Hobbit just hasten it a bit , not coused it.
My first thought when I saw Fellowship for the first time and Arwen suddenly shows up to help the hobbits: "Goodness, Glorfindel, you've... changed...!"
My sibling and I have a running joke that Arwen stole Asfaloth and ran off into the woods to find Aragorn
@@regrettablemuffin9186 now you’ve just made me picture Glorfindel with his perfect hair tramping on foot back to Rivendell and cursing her out in Quenya heeheeee
Hey let's not deadname Arwen
gosh. . .
LOTR AU where Laurefindiel (Glorfindel) is a butch Elven lesbian.
“I should never ad lib” I am Deceased!XD
Yeah, wasn't sure how to take being called a dirty boy 😂
One of my favorite stories about Farmer Maggot doesn't actually involve him--in a letter to Rayner Unwin, ( The Letters of JRR Tolkien, #206), Tolkien relates that in a dinner given for him in Holland, they named the various dishes served after some of the Lord of the Rings characters.
Tolkien says of the host "I thought he was charming and intelligent; but he was still a little upset about the hilarity caused by 'maggot soup' on the Menu. It was, of course, mushroom soup; but he said he would not have chosen the name if he had known 'all the names of the English vermins'."
The Real Reason Old Tom could not be in The Movie: You cant have an all powerful implement that corrupts everyone and everything that touches it, and the first guy you meet on the road be utterly immune to it.
You can make that work when you have five hundred pages to reinforce the Ring's corruptive nature, but it's a bit trickier when you only have a few hours.
Have to agree; I found Tom Bombadil a perfect character to display the wonder of Middle Earth and I always enjoy the early chapters because of the ambiguity about how much danger they all were in. However, it would have sabotaged the film given that it began with the 8 minute intro and the audience knew all about the rings power. I always wonder if the films would have been better without that intro but I suppose that would have demanded a very lengthy Council of Elrond, probably a much better script and a braver studio. I don't think Jackson and his team could have done that; given that they nearly had Arwen fighting at Helms Deep and Frodo spent the whole film failing to exhibit any of the characteristics that made Bilbo call him the "bravest hobbit in the whole shire".
@@davidbellamy2612 I don't think a _Fellowship_ film that Tom Bombadil could fit comfortably into can exist, because movies are a much more temporally-constrained medium than literature. A book can be less than a hundred pages or more than a thousand, but a movie that lasts less than an hour feels ridiculously short and a movie more than 3-4 feels ridiculously long.
If you want a LotR adaptation that includes _everything_ from the books, you would need something more like a television series. TV series can be hundreds of episodes long or just a dozen (or less, counting miniseries!). They're much more flexible than movies in that regard.
That's entirely wrong... The issue was his singing. Literally just that. They didn't want the films to be musicals and they cut basically every other song from the films other than as background music
@@William-Morey-Baker If you're claiming that there was exactly one issue preventing his adaptation, and not a variety which would contribute to a general clash with the rest of the movie, you'd better have a source.
I feel an incredible need to point out that we have a whole book to explain that swearing to Eru is a reALLY BAD IDEA
What about swearing AT Eru?
Or that Galadriel had the right idea telling Feanor to fuck off when he asked for her hair like a gross creep. That guy Incel'd so hard, that it led to a continent sinking into the ocean.
@@EvilSandwich at least Gimli had the decency to want to make a work as a sign of peace between elves and dwarves in her name
Be he foe or friend, be he foul or clean, brood of Morgoth or bright Vala....
@@EvilSandwich fëanor invented being the creepy uncle lmao
Dom: "This video isn't about Bombadil"
Also Dom: Talks about Bombadil for 8 minutes.
Cos Tom is such a big figure that is frequently mentioned as one that'd deserve to be in the film's, it merits a detailed explanation of why he isn't the focus of the videos title.
Did us all a favour.
That reference to John Mulaney loving his wife stopped aging well REALLY fast.
:(
What? Why? I really have no context for this and am just wondering
@@JonathanMandrake His wife and he announced their divorce like a week after this video.
@@master_blizzard well thats a real bummer. He seemed happy
The brightest stars collapse quickest. The hottest flames burn the fastest.
Faramir deserves more credit than he got in the films.
Truly! The films made him look like such an asshole. Also, his little dinner party in the cave was one of my favourite bits; it was such a port in the storm, but also the vibes are so interesting, because Faramir takes in the hobbits like, "Hey, come to dinner with us! No Really, You're Coming With Us."
Also, for my favourite character left out of Return of the King, the guard Beregond. He and Pippin had such a cool friendship.
Kind of ironic the whole point of his character was being underappreciated and underutilized.
Faramir!!! Big time!!!
Freddie Bulgar was another great character left out. He managed Frodo’s house after he left and sent mail back and forth to make it look like Frodo was still in the Shire. He reappears in The Return of the King as the leader of a resistance movement against Saruman. Definitely a cool character left out.
YES
Honestly Id have to say hes got balls almost as big as Farmer Maggots. He had a much better understanding of the potential danger coming for him and still agreed to stay and keep up the pretense that frodo was still in the shire, which could have easily led to a slow painful death tor him. And if I recall correctly you fimd out in the scouring of the Shire that he led a rebellion against the much stronger better armed men who had taken over with Saruman
I thought this was gonna be his pick, such an awesome character
There's a sad line that Fredegar Bolger was so traumatised by what he endured during the Scouring of the Shire that nobody could ever call him Fatty ever again.
Another reason why The Scouring of the Shire deserves its own movie.
Dom: "This is not about Tom Bombadil"
Also Dom: *proceed to spend a third of the video talking about Tom Bombadil*
And less than five minutes on the coolest absent character.
Funny story about Tom Bombadil, he's kind of a cameo from one of his Kids toys, which they lost and he comforted them by saying he was off having adventures.
He's really just something Tolkien likes to place in his stories, an embodiment of good and contentment who is immune to the ring because he doesn't desire anything as he enjoys his life as it is.
I'd love if that were true. you got a source?
One of my favorites is the story of Beregond and how he saved Faramir, and ended up being banished from Minas Tirith by Aragorn for breaking the law, and then leaving Minas Tirith to live in Ithlien to serve Faramir, a loyal guard indeed through and through and later captain aswell.
Imagine a strike force of Frodo, Glorfindel, Legolas, Aragorn, and Tom Bombadil marching the Ring to Mount Doom.
The collective Plot Armor is akin to a German Ratte tank crashing over Middle Earth.
And one eagle
And farmer Maggot. xD
Tolkien wouldn't have liked that metaphor used for the nature loving protagonists - maybe for a Dragon or an Orc war machine.
@@LadySnowfaerie and my axe!
@@MagusMarquillin Fine.
Imagine a Merry Band of Kind, Honest, Nature-Loving Gentlemen (who sometimes platonically kiss on the mouth) strolling down the road like a family on a cross-country road trip to throw some jewelry into a volcano.
Is that whimsical enough for the great J.R.R Tolkien?
I hereby petition for an 11 hour long "Lost in Adaptation" about the Lord of the Ring books/movies.
I don't know its current status, but a year or two back there was a guy doing an "everything they left out of TLotR movies" series. I followed it for the first dozen or so episodes. They were all 20 minutes or so long, and he hadn't even gotten them to Rivendell yet.
11 hours...probably not enough.
I hereby petition a 22 hour long extended cut of “Lost in Adaptation” about the Lord of the Rings books/movies.
11 hours per movie/book
second that !!!
I always read Tom Bombadil as either an Author insert, or as Eru Ilúvatar himself wandering his creation, with his Wife being the representation of the land
It could also just be that he is the basic spirit of goodness, like love, humbleness, enjoying the moment and so on. As in he is the opposite of what Melkor was, he was so good that he doesn't even care about poweror such stuff
He is earth and Goldberry is water. Remember, she is the river daughter.
Combination of both
Tolkien was a christian, he would despise the idea of god casually entering our world unless through Jesus.
Damn, I'm itching for a full version of "The Ballad of Farmer Maggot"...
Yes!
"Oh fuuuuck, it's Glorfindel. Cheese it boys!"
I had to pause the video, I was laughing so hard.
That was legit my favorite line of Dom's. De-ceased.
ME TOO!!! 😂😂😂😂
Nazgul: Why do I suddenly hear boss-music?
Later.
Sauron: So. Would you care to explain why THREE of my Black Riders RAN AWAY, from a single elf?
Nazgul: Well my Lord, the Elf was Glorfindel.
Sauron: ...I’m sorry did you say Glorfindel?
Nazgul: Yes Sire.
Sauron: You made the correct choice, Glorfindel would have DESTROYED you.
@@AskForDoodles , they are just riding along and all of a sudden they hear one-winged angel start to play.
I wasn't surprised by Tom not being in the movie. I think even Tolkien himself said Tom would understandably be the first to go in any adaptation. I vaguely remember a line from him saying something along the lines of "Here I spend all this time setting up the Ring as an item of pure power and cursed evil on which the whole epic lies... and the first random guy in the woods they run across isn't affected by it at all."
"But the Dom, you tasty, full-English breakfast..."
It's official: from now on, any time I comment on your videos, I will address you as this.
I wonder if Glorfindel was too OP to join the Fellowship?
Legolas: does cool shit w/ a bow and surfs down an Olephant trunk
Glorfindel: *Hold my beer*
Yup! Balrog would have peed his loincloth and GTFO!!!
Gandalf and Glorfindel together could have easily killed the Balrog in Moria. That would have changed everything.
@@She-Devil94 Agreed! The movie's 2 year timeline would have been a weekend trip!
I always wondered why Glorfindel didnt go. He was brought back to life by the Valar for some big purpose that couldnt have been so simple as telling everyone that the Witch King couldnt be killed by man and the relatively minor act of saving Frodos life after Amun Sul.
@@custink22 Right?! Who brings this guy back from the dead (before Gandalf made it cool) to have him sit back and let the newbs handle the fate of the world?🤨
Dom: “...and Tom Bombadil struts his funky stuff entering the scene.”
Me: “...curse you Dom for that mental imagery.”
Cue beegees lol
@@shelbymachado8712 I will never be able to read that part the same way again.
Does he look like Paul Giamatti to you too?
I kept expecting Stephen Colbert to bust in like the Koolaid man all like ARE WE TALKING ABOUT LORD OF THE RINGS
Tom Bombadil: Hey, I'm the coolest character!
Glorfindel: You were saying?
Farmer Maggot: Look at me guy's, and you can learn something!
Gildor: And who saved the Hobbit's from the Nazgul???
Fatty Bolger: HoLd mY bEeR
Fatty Bolger figured out about the Ring and formed a conspiracy to keep watch over Frodo with Frodo's other friends, he is the one who stayed behind to keep up the appearance that Frodo was still in the shire. When 3 of the riders came to kill Frodo and found him, our boy took to the hills and raised the Horn-call of Buckland witch drove off the Nazgul (also they found out he was not there)
I had no idea who Farmer Maggot was, but I should have known the pattern of videos like this. It's never about the most powerful being, the the most mysterious being, or the being with the most interesting of backstory, it's the person who it's bravest for their humble circumstances.
No, it's about the person with the best cabbages
I feel like if Sauron did invade the Shire he would send his dogs after him
and we all know what happened with Huan the Hound
I could see Sauron hearing those dogs and noping out of there. "OH GOD HUAN IS BACK FROM THE DEAD AND COMING AFTER ME!!"
I can't believe youd didn't even MENTIONED Fredegar Bolger...
My man put his life on the line and stayed behind to ensure a safe escape into the old forrest...
He is by all acount the fifth Beatle/Hobbit ^^
Yep, Fatty Bolger was cool as hell too.
I don't know what but Dom flirting with himself does something for me.
Self-Love
Two is better than one!
Pure Confidence
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I did hope Fatty Bolger would finally get a shout out. The courage it took to act as bait to draw the attention of the black riders while Frodo and his squad head into the dark forest is pretty ballsy. And his terror when the black riders come for him, oof. Those are some friendship goals.
“...Before the seas were bent...”
Just reminds me of one of my favorite things about Tolkien. He incorporated the historical shift in human understanding about the earth’s shape into his mythology. Brilliant.
That moment when some humans behave so poorly you turn the planet into a sphere
This was a fun way of talking about left out characters XD I like it.
Cleverly disguised "Top 5 characters left out of the Fellowship of the Ring Film". Well played.
As a huge Tolkien fan, I adored hearing the names and places from Silmarillion that were always so dear to my heart
Nailed it, choice and commentary. I agree that Maggot foreshadows other obstacles and people Frodo meets later in his quest, in a sense preparing Frodo for (among other things) offering Gollum a chance at redemption, without which the Quest would probably have failed. Maggot also helps flesh out Frodo as a character, showing how the latter has a past reaching back before the trilogy actually starts. Lastly, I think Maggot epitomizes many Hobbit ideals: he is wise without being hidebound, generous without being foolish and forgiving without being gullible. Perhaps even moreso than Sam, as Sam at the start of the story has yet to grow into his own strengths; in Maggot, we see a mature hobbit with those virtues fully realized.
When I saw it in the films I yelled “They did my boy Maggot dirty!”
They also cut every scene of bravery for Frodo and at least in The Two Towers they fucked over both Theoden and Faramir (or rather Nearamir).
@@Thraim. At least they get Faramir decently right in RotK. I was livid at what they did to him in TT though.
Dude, I didn't realize that was supposed to be Farmer Maggot until just now, and I have seen those movies about a million times.
@@Thraim. I honestly think the missing Frodo scenes were mistakes. So many add up and that plus the changes subtly but crucially shifts the character to the point that modern focus holds up Sam as the only brave one out of the two and Frodo a bit useless when they were equally essential and incredibly brave in the books. Poor Frodo.
Not as dirty as Denethor. And Frodo. And Faramir.
Beregond gang. Dude’s no farmer maggot, but he was still an interesting example of a Gondorian soldier, acted as a companion and sorta character foil to Pipin, and also took down like 4 people apparently single-handedly while trying to save Faramir. Absolute badass.
This is about Fellowship though
Waiting for RotK version, i nominate this legend, Beregond. Best faramir fanboy ever.
@@quillpen815
How often is a fanboy worthy of a stan himself?
#JusticeforBeregond
@@Shadowplay4Cats isn't he the captain looking guy who says Denethor had forseen the orcs taking osgiliath when Faramir and his men barely make it back?
@@maxm.9992 That's supposed to be Prince Imrahil of Dol Amroth, leader of the best knights of Gondor
Glorfindel is one of the elves the Hobbits meet REALLY early in their travels -- the first Elf that Sam ever meets -- and he's heading to the Grey Havens along with a troupe of other elves. I never really noticed that until I was reading "Fellowship" to my kids and realized just who the elf at the beginning was. This means he was already on his way to Elf Heaven but put his eternal bliss on hold so he could face down the Nazgul, help the hobbitses, and then fight in the war against Sauron before FINALLY getting back to his journey into the West...
Aren't you confusing Glorfindel with Gildor here? I mean, don't get me wrong, Glorfindel did do similar stuff to what you describe in your last sentence, since he literally *left* Elf Heaven in order to return to Middle Earth and kick the Orcs and Nazgûl around for another age, but I don't think he was on his way back west yet, and I think Gildor was the Elf with the troupe heading to the Havens the Hobbits met on their travels.
Glorfindel meets up with the Hobbits & Aragorn shortly before Rivendell. You're thinking of Gildor, who Frodo, Sam & Pippin meet early on after leaving the shire
Yeah, hope he doesn't get annoyed with the monkey king
The barrow mound sequence literally is my favourite part from the whole lord of the rings books. It would have been so cool to see it in a movie, such great suspense and horror.
I think the resolution of Tom Bombadil dropping his sick mixtape and having them zoom away into nothingness would undercut it a little, but that whole sequence is very spooky all things considered. I wish we'd had more atmospheric and almost lovecraft inspired horror
I always really liked Ghân-buri-Ghân! He tells Eomer to trott on and straight up tells Theoden to stop hunting them (the Drúedain) like beast in exchange for their help, and Theoden just goes - "fair" (implying that they have been hunting people for sport)
Good gosh I forgot all about him. Dang that part was... eeh 😬
No joke, Dom, you'd be pretty good at narrating books on Audible or something.
I was thinking the same thing. I have never read The Hobbit or the Lord of the rings but if the Dom read them I don't think I would put them down.
He'd probably hate it, given his dyslexia.
@@Vicky_1995_ The Hobbit is a fantastic book for kids. Easy read, and was very influential for me as a kid.
EDIT: The Hobbit is on sale for $7.50 on Amazon. Just grabbed a copy to read to my kids.
Honestly I have considered getting in touch and asking him to narrate my book when it's done (if I ever finish it). Honestly though I just doubt I'd be able to afford what his voice is worth.
There are so many CZcamsrs I would LOVE to hear books read by, I'm honestly pretty surprised more of them don't do it.
I love that you went through SO MANY other characters before covering the true answer. Very nice, I had a lot of fun with this one!
I'm currently reading Fellowship of the Ring for the 1st time, I've been a huge fan of the LotR movies for a long time but never owned the books until recently. I have to admit when I read the chapters of Frodo leaving The Shire one of the 1st things I made a point to bring up with family and friends was that Farmer Maggot was a badass and got done dirty in the movies
This is why I firmly believe that that is NOT Farmer Maggot, just some random hobbit who happens to be outside his house chopping wood and owns a dog.
The real reason why Tom is the way he is is because Tolkien wrote TLOTR as if it was part of a real world mythology that he was translating for modern readers. Tolkien was writing this as if he had discovered ancient Gondorian texts that are translations of the read book that Bilbo, Frodo, and Sam wrote. So like a real world mythology, it changed a lot of hands and the story changed itself. So in the version we read, Tom of course appears and is implied to have one of the most expansive histories of any character but only in one chapter. Tolkien implies that he is a larger folkloric figure that played a bigger part in the story when this character played a larger cultural relevance to the people writing the story. So Bilbo would know nothing, Frodo & Sam would gush about him in their recounting of their meeting, but later historians who told the stories after them would not really know why Tom was so important in the story as told by Hobbits so limit him to one chapter but still keep the character.
Like Loki.
Check out OSP's video on the subject but how this character acts in the mythos makes absolutely NO sense in his evolution of appearance in the stories. Loki is not present at all when Romans or Britons described their meetings with Nordic Folk, then played a massive role in the Poetic Edda, and is now the most diverse character of that mythology moving from straight up Satan to rebellious anti hero to unlikely hero when compared to the more dishonorable and warlike actions of the other Asgardians
Loki is not in Roman sources, but neither is like 90%+ of the Norse pantheon. In the mythology Loki is pretty consistent, he's always a somewhat morally-ambiguous trickster who the other gods disregard until he is pushed too far and retaliate. Morally-ambiguous tricksters aren't anything unique. Greek mythology is full of them. Norse mythology is full of them. Hell, even Odin is one. It's how Loki is interpreted after the fact that is inconsistent, not his place in mythology.
Balder for example is, mythological speaking, far more inconsistent then Loki. Depending on the source he is either the nicest, most morally-upstanding God around, who is tragically killed when Hod is tricked into shooting him with an arrow made of mistletoe, or he is a wicked, demigod tyrant who Hod heroically slays with his magic sword (which may be the legendary sword named Mistletoe) to save his love from him.
Bombadil comes up a couple more times in the books beyond the couple of chapters in his own domain.
He's mentioned at the Council of Elrond as a possible solution for the problem of the Ring, and, while Elrond knows him (or at least knows of him) and respects him, he and Gandalf agree that Iarwain Ben-adar would be a poor choice - it would not take long for Sauron to learn of the Ring's disposition, and Tom could not be trusted to care about the Ring and keep it from its creator. And, while they're not prepared to be definite about it, they doubt that Bombadil's realm could endure once all else had fallen.
Then, in the middle of book 6, as the Hobbits near the Shire, Gandalf parts with them to go spend time with Tom Bombadil, now that he's not too busy to have a good long talk with him.
But the general point remains - Bombadil is part of another story who turns up in LotR rather than part of the tale itself - like many other cameos in various forms of fiction and mythology - and his presence in LotR is for the benefit of those familiar with his wider roles rather than an essential portion of this story.
@@Painocus Well... not really. I mean, Loki is not really notable because he's morally ambiguous - as you say, pretty much ALL of the norse and greek gods are like that - but his role is really not clear. We don't exactly know what he is the god of (all of the mythological tricksters haver roles other than just "trickster"), his relationship with the Aesir is pretty inconsistent too, especially with Odin (prior to the killing of Baldr) - sometimes he's an enemy (ie : Loki's theft of Sif's hair), sometimes an ally (the adventure with Utgarda-Loki), sometimes just the one who fixes the shit that other gods cause (the making of Asgard's walls). His interpretation is unclear because his role as a mythological being is unclear, and probably changed so much overtime that the only consistent characteristics are "clever" and "rule-bending", which is not much.
This made me realize that I really have to read the Lord of the Rings again.
Now being the crazy horse girl that I am let me tell you about the amazing horses they left out or cut the story of:
Bill
It stuck with me so much that this poor pony had been mistreated before the Hobbits and Aragorn got him and even though it's been years I still remember how happy I was that the Hobbits were treating him well and I felt with Sam a lot when they had to let him go. I still cherish the fact that he made it all the way back home to Bree from Moria.
Snowmane
From what I can remember he didn't play such a big role in the story, but his death made me sad and I still recall that the grass on the Pelennor fields where he died bloomed greener than the place around it. Here I totally get why they cut that bit.
Roheryn
In the books, she's Aragorn's horse and once the Dunedain catch up to him in Rohan he rides her again. I still remember how the horses were afraid to take the Paths of the Dead, but trusted their riders so much that they followed them anyway and that just really stuck with me. She's probably my favourite horse from the Lord of the Rings.
I think the reasons each character was cut make perfect sense for the movie. If Farmer Maggot could intimidate the Nazgul, then why should I fear them?
I don't think the Nazgul was intimidated.
Definitely not intimidated
But the farmer not giving a single visible shit about the wraith infront of him would Definitely take some of the fear
Exactly. You shouldn't fear the Nazgûl. If both Famer Maggot and Fatty Bolger could tell Khamûl (the second-most powerful of the Wraiths) off, it really goes to show that behind all of the sorcery and "power" that the Nazgûl possess, they're really nothing more than spineless cowards at the end of the day.
Totally agree. Reading the books for the first time and it's so weird picturing the Black Riders as more polite and tolerable beings. Offering people gold for information and taking their words at face value.
Imagine the riders having to report back to Sauron that they couldn't find him because an old Famer told them to fu(k off 😂
That was my takeaway. The hobbit shown in the film wasn't Farmer Maggot, just a random Hobbit that was there to show (rather than tell) how shit your pants terrifying the Nazgul were. In the film, you're not even sure who or what these black riders are in the beginning: just that they came from Mordor and they are searching for Frodo. Jackson and the filmmakers did an excellent job in portraying them: They're hunting the hobbits down, they're completely covered in hoods and armor, the scary hoarse voices, the screeching sound they make and I think there's actually blood on their horse's hooves. Not counting the music and tone to give the audience the feel that they're evil, there's the reaction of every other creature around them. The random hobbit's dog first barks at the Nazgul, then whimpering backs into the house. Then when the four hobbits are hiding from one under the tree root, they witness all sorts of creepy crawlies (centipedes and spiders and the like) moving as fast as they can to get away from it. Perfect example of "show, don't tell" of how terrifying the Nazgul are.
Tom Bombadil: hey cool ring can I try it.
*Ring has no effect*
Hobbits: 😲
Later... Elrond: "We can't give it to Tom... he doesn't care and he'll probably loose it"
Ah yes. Twenty minutes of Dom hitting on himself. Exactly what I needed!
I always really liked Gildor. The part of the story where they meet him doesn't really contribute much of anything to the plot, but I was always fascinated by the otherworldliness of the Elves so it was easy to imagine myself as Sam and Frodo having this kind of awe at their culture and language.
Big agree. Never ask an elf for advice, for they shall tell you both yes and no!
The character you chose and everything like them is why I love Tolkien and the books always much more than the movies. The little touches, subtle humor and amazing warmth.
I kind of expected Maggot at the end. The Farmer was the first person I realised how much even simple things were changed from the books to movies.
Tom and Glorfindel are awesome, but when you are starting with characters like that it's kind of clear that a smaller character like Maggot would be mentioned in the end.
_Also amazing Song!_ 😂
Let's pour one out for my lad Fatty Bolger. 😔🙏
He deserved the #1 spot.
Wasn't he the one who stayed back lighting bag end s lights and gossiping and such to muddy the waters of Frodo s whereabouts?
I too was hoping for him to be a good contestant for the first spot.
This was my first thought too! I was certain it was gonna be Fatty Bolger in the top spot. No one remembers the poor guy :(
@@ismata3274 later Fatty led his own rebel forces :) a resistance movement against the new regime that took over Shire :), he led his rebel band bravely until his capture:
"The day after the battle Frodo rode to Michel Delving and released the prisoners from the Lockholes. One of the first that they found was poor Fredegar Bolger, Fatty no longer. He had been taken when the ruffians smoked out a band of rebels that he led from their hidings up in the Brockenbores by the hills of Scary.
'You would have done better to come with us after all, poor old Fredegar!' said Pippin, as they carried him out too weak to walk.
He opened an eye and tried gallantly to smile. 'Who's this young giant with the loud voice?' he whispered. 'Not little Pippin! What's your size in hats now?'"
The Return of the King, LoTR Book 6, Ch 9, The Grey Havens
Apparently Tolkien seems to have at first to consider sending him off on a quest with the rest of Hobbits :).
I recently started listening to the audiobook of fellowship for the first time and Fatty Bolger is so great! Second only to Sam on the “characters I would die for” list 😤
Good ole Fredrick Bolger. Yet another brave hobbit.
I had guessed Glorfindel until you showed that clip of the field at 23:18 when I audibly gasped "Farmer Maggot!" The fact that he has dogs that would be huge by human standards and then he's only 3.5 feet tall. I just!!! Short king 👌
You raised my expectations with your thumbnail, and you met them entirely, congratulations
16:36 I suppose, given that in the Hobbit we see that, like in the book, Radagast and Gandalf were pretty tight, it's okay to assume that Radagast taught Gandalf something that allowed him to pass messages via animals. You could even suggest that, given how environmentally unfriendly Saruman's preparations for war were, Gandalf was SUPER lucky to find that moth to help him.
EDIT: I'm sure Tolkien himself would approve of your Number One choice - it perfectly fits with his "The humble folk are the real heroes" philosophy.
Even the Dom isn't free from the tendency of calling Aragorn "Eragon" lmao
Think it accent based tbh
Brits call him Eragon, Spanish call him Aragón
@@Frahamen But there's always been a second R in his name lmao
@@amberdixon4200 You know, I considered that, but there's not even _part_ of the second R sound in there. I've heard lots of English people pronounce Rs in various words, and usually there's some audible indication of it. Here, there was not.
@@Daggeira It's fairly rare for anybody to actually pronounce it, in my experience. Maybe it's just a collective bad habbit?
I really like that picture of Jack Black behind the text regarding Tom Bombadil.
I missed that part. Do you have a time stamp
@@wingedyera It's about 5:19 - 5:35 maybe? I'm kidding but it does resemble Jack Black.
Oh man, I went to the time stamp you listed and that cracked me up! 😂🤣 Strangely, I think Jack Black could actually pull the character off well!
5:58 ''He knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless'' Goosebumps.
It seems that people forget that the Bombadil episode is where they get the magic blade that kills the witch king. It's because of Tom that they got it.
No kidding. tbvh I wonder sometimes what would've happened if they HADN'T fallen into the Barrow and gotten the blades. Yes I'm ignoring the way the movie gave them the blades because it doesn't sit right with me. Those blades, blades on the same level as Orcrist and Glamdring, weren't even really known of because they'd been lost in the Barrow, and you're telling me Aragorn just had them sitting around in the films?? Nope.
I've always read over farmer Maggot without paying him my due respect. Thank you Dom for calling out a total badass.
Before watching, it's gotta be Glorfindel
*Edit*
Yeah, farmer Maggot would have been cool. Him and his dogs.
I think the saddest omission from the LoTR films was the whole Scouring of the Shire sequence...without it the drawn out end of the films seems almost a drag...Even an abbreviated version would've made more sense, and held together several otherwise disparate parts of the film, including Frodo's vision in Lady Galadriel's basin...It would also have emphasised the growth in stature (socially as well as physically) of Sam, Merry and Pippin, and Frodo's retreat thereafter to complete the memoirs.
I feel that the clearest demonstration that Jackson completely missed the point of the story is his leaving out the Scouring of the Shire. I agree that it shows the changes in Frodo, Sam, Merry, and Pippin. It also shows what happens when men march off to war and return only to find that there are still battles to be fought (The Civil Rights Movement got a big boost from WWII vets coming home to find they were still treated like dirt) and they can't return to the life they had before because they've been changed by their experiences and the demands of wartime on the home front has changed the people they left behind as well although in different ways. We get to see what happens to a peaceful community when it is occupied by enemy forces. Finally, it drives home the idea that even the most humble person can make a difference.
He could have easily trimmed enough room from other parts of the movie to make room for it.
Just want to put in a word for Ghan-Buri-Ghan here. I always thought he was someone who would be able to tell a good story or two.
Not disappointing, Dom! My thoughts were of Glorfindel, and I’m one of those that loves Tom Bombadil’s eccentricity, but your lovely reminder of dear Farmer Maggot reminded me how much my heart filled when reading those scenes for the first time (and each time after that).
Beregond was also a cool character that got left out. He got some great moments, especially when he helps make it possible for Pippin and Gandalf to save Faramir, despite needing to leave his post to do so and risking discharge from the army of Gondor as well as worse punishment.
Beregond is super great, fully agree :) His son is cool, too. We can all only hope that Dom will make at least two more videos on the other books, and we'll get Beregond (and Quickbeam?)
I adore Beregond! Such a good friend to Pippin
He did more than leave his post, he killed the guard at the door of the tombs so he could go in and try to stop them from burning Faramir. So his "punishment" wound up being exiled from Minas Tirith...to Ithilien, where he became captain of Faramir's personal guard.
@@janedunsworth8728 yeah, recall that now, has been awhile since I've read the books so I only remembered vague details.
Bergil, Beregond, and Quickbeam are all awesome, but I would also like to submit for future consideration on great characters missing in the adaptations of TT and RotK: Lobelia Sackville-Baggins and her umbrella.
What Jackson did to Farmer Maggot was foreshadowing for what he was going to do to Faramir and Treebeard. They're a trio of the coolest, most stand-up support characters, but Jackson hated them for some reason and turned them all into stupid, short-sighted antagonists that had to be tricked into doing the right thing.
Faramir was awesome in the movies!
@@myiachanmagicalgirl Not really. He was just Boromir that didn't die. The books emphasized, at every turn, that Faramir was NOT like his brother. He was cool-headed, carefully considered his actions, and took counsel from the wise, where Boromir was brash, impulsive, and difficult to reason with. Farmir's biggest test is when Sam and Frodo ask to be left to continue their mission, and, in the movies, he failed it. And, then, his failure added a half hour of pointless run-time in order to put the story back on track.
@@MrMagnaniman I disagree, he was a ranger sneaky sneaky fella while his bro was a tank. I think they made that clear
I remember meeting Farmer Maggot as an NPC in Lord of the Rings Online - he is 100% ready to tell player characters to get the hell out as well ("MORE blasted strangers? Get off my land!") until he finds out you're there on questing business. Considering I met the man *after* the Nazgul had come through I can't blame him 😂
"If you show me that pretender again I will run you through!" Oh Dom. This video is a delight.
Sam just carrying the party with his high WIS, CON, and STR scores.
Tom Bombadil was going to play himself, in the movie, but New Line wouldn’t let him act AND direct.
This is a nice one
No love for Gildor? He gives the best advice in the trilogy! “Do not meddle in the affairs of Wizards, for they are subtle and quick to anger.”