Jay Bilas dropping the TRUTH - while Rich tries to be a good company man & pretend players aren't & haven't ALWAYS gotten paid. Jay won't be back on this show without a stern talking to - 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 you go Jay way to have some balls.
Its crazy to think that these young men/women are making mountains of money for everyone else & many of the students are from working class/non-wealthy homes. Without much help from home, many of the kids can't even afford to purchase a meal off campus or a ticket to fly/bus home for a holiday break. Yes, we give them a scholarship/housing allowance - but we give the same award, scholarship/housing allowance to an academic standout scholar, but we place no additional burden on the academic standout. A student athlete on scholarship must attend class and maintain GPA. That unto itself can be a challenge, and then consider the extra effort and risk that we demand from the student athlete. These big programs put a lot of physical stress on the student athlete and there is the risk that they will suffer a career altering/ending injury. We put a lot of psychological stress on the athlete - expecting them to perform academically, athletically, and also serve as a role model and keep a clean image in order to attract new fans and new recruits.
Nicole Mikloiche this is well said ... I was a student athlete and I came from a lower economic situation... I never took money ... but I was never offered money.
Brian Bowen is a five star recruit - Almost all 5 star recruits go pro and make millions! But this kid may have tarnished his NBA future by accepting money from these leeches.
These shoe companies (especially the ones trying to compete with Nike) would be better off investing that money in shoe designers if they want to compete. They forget about the importance of the product in the whole equation. If you want to dethrown Nike you have to beat them with the design team. Once you start to deliver on the shoe the players will want in. They might even take a slight paycut because they want to be apart of the movement.
in collage players have no choice of their foot wear. The school and coach choose the shoe you will wear. Why do they choose one shoe over an other? Its not because it looks good. Its not because it is a better shoe. Its because they get paid to force the players to wear the shoe. Follow the money.
The Wall Street comparison was insanely ridiculous and not at all comparable. However, Bilas is right that the money issue won't change. When programs step too far over the line, they're gonna get zinged.
I like Jay Bilas. He's one of the few on the players side and tells the truth. I respect coaches who take care of their players more than the one's who don't. The problem is greed of the coaches, administration and NCAA.
NCAA needs to have a coaches license that all Major College coaches must hold in order to coach..If they cheat or mess up the NCAA has the power to revoke their license, like in boxing. Sick of someone like pitino cheating then the players get the death penalty or cant play in tourney ..then pitino gets hired again by the lakers or some other team and makes 8 mill a year not fair....If you lose your license to coach your done!
If the payment of college athlete's is the solution, then this should be done under the minor league system such as what baseball has. The primary mission of all these institutions is ACADEMIC not athletic. Where is the oversight of the state for these public institutions? It is obvious the university admin can't monitor or police.
Roger Nagel primary focus is to make money. Have you seen the salaries in the UC system? I hear you but its naive to think sports isnt a huge and welcomed part of the schools budget.
How would you determine fair market value for an athlete? Would there be a salary cap for schools? Couldn't schools with the most money just "buy" all the good recruits? Although I believe athletes should receive compensation, I just don't see an easy fix for this.
Rich, why is this disgusting? The idea that people with skills get paid for their labor. Just because it bursts the myth of the pure amateur? Collage sport is a business. The idea that the NCAA wants to regulate their income falls flat on its face. The system will change when the players say no more. Ask your next guest who played collage sports about their attendance in class? Ask them how many players graduated. How can he be a great coach if he was just out spending the competition? Some one said you can lose with good players, but you can never win with out good players. So by buying good players you are boosting your chances of success.
The NBA needs to step in and form an organized minor league system like what baseball does. MLB has shown that college baseball and minor league baseball can co-exist. Look to the NBA to fix this. The NCAA will NEVER fix this. Why should they do what is right and pay the players when they are getting paid out the ass to do the wrong thing?
Players who want an education and greater exposure will go to college. Players who want money now will choose a minor league team in a league organized by the NBA. Get on it Silver!!! Your sport needs you.
Bilas seems to forget....how do you pay men's players and not women's? see where this is going? Women's sports make no money..so now all the sudden you are paying women who aren't drawing any revenue. The big programs can probably swing it..the smaller P5 programs would likely struggle.
You don't think 10.8 billion dollar profits from big-time NCAA sports can be filtered down to the sports that don't make a profit? haha 11 billion could fund a small European country. 11 billion could fund a war. lol There's money for women's sports, dude. * That 10.8 number is from a 2012-2013 analysis of NCAA profits.
Let players get drafted in the nba but stay in college and let shoe companies or any company give endorsements to the top players that way the ncaa can claim their not paying anyone so they wouldn't have to pay women or lower divisions, Just let players use their likeness to make money
If your sport doesn't create profit you don't get paid. College is supposed to prepare you for the real world. In the real world It's all about supply and demand. If you have the skill that has zero demand you won't find work and you won't get paid
I get what you're saying, but Jay isn't a coach for a div 1 college basketball team ,he's a spokesman who is paid by ESPN to discuss these and other issues concerning college basketball..
Jay Bilas dropping the TRUTH - while Rich tries to be a good company man & pretend players aren't & haven't ALWAYS gotten paid. Jay won't be back on this show without a stern talking to - 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 you go Jay way to have some balls.
looks like rosen and lavar were right about the ncaa
Its crazy to think that these young men/women are making mountains of money for everyone else & many of the students are from working class/non-wealthy homes. Without much help from home, many of the kids can't even afford to purchase a meal off campus or a ticket to fly/bus home for a holiday break. Yes, we give them a scholarship/housing allowance - but we give the same award, scholarship/housing allowance to an academic standout scholar, but we place no additional burden on the academic standout. A student athlete on scholarship must attend class and maintain GPA. That unto itself can be a challenge, and then consider the extra effort and risk that we demand from the student athlete. These big programs put a lot of physical stress on the student athlete and there is the risk that they will suffer a career altering/ending injury. We put a lot of psychological stress on the athlete - expecting them to perform academically, athletically, and also serve as a role model and keep a clean image in order to attract new fans and new recruits.
Nicole Mikloiche agree with a lot, but a scholarship for academics requires a minimum GPA as well. Don't forget that.
And student athlete classes are far watered down of what a class for any student would be, it's a farce.
Nicole Mikloiche this is well said ... I was a student athlete and I came from a lower economic situation... I never took money ... but I was never offered money.
Get rid of the TV money and you will limit the problem. First time I have ever heard a sports media person say this. Thank you Jay.
Blame the higher ups in the NCAA, atleast those players and families got some money I know all Those players didn't go pro
Brian Bowen is a five star recruit - Almost all 5 star recruits go pro and make millions! But this kid may have tarnished his NBA future by accepting money from these leeches.
These shoe companies (especially the ones trying to compete with Nike) would be better off investing that money in shoe designers if they want to compete. They forget about the importance of the product in the whole equation. If you want to dethrown Nike you have to beat them with the design team. Once you start to deliver on the shoe the players will want in. They might even take a slight paycut because they want to be apart of the movement.
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in collage players have no choice of their foot wear. The school and coach choose the shoe you will wear. Why do they choose one shoe over an other? Its not because it looks good. Its not because it is a better shoe. Its because they get paid to force the players to wear the shoe. Follow the money.
Preach Jay... their greedy..... spread the wealth, or more Lavar Ball's will come...
You could write a whole new edition of Bartlett's just from this segment.
The Wall Street comparison was insanely ridiculous and not at all comparable. However, Bilas is right that the money issue won't change. When programs step too far over the line, they're gonna get zinged.
optiin 3 for jay: tear the ncaa away from colleges and create a pro-am league. separate and apart of education. independent totally
Maybe they can get Billy Clyde to come coach at Louisville. LOL
I like Jay Bilas. He's one of the few on the players side and tells the truth. I respect coaches who take care of their players more than the one's who don't. The problem is greed of the coaches, administration and NCAA.
NCAA needs to have a coaches license that all Major College coaches must hold in order to coach..If they cheat or mess up the NCAA has the power to revoke their license, like in boxing. Sick of someone like pitino cheating then the players get the death penalty or cant play in tourney ..then pitino gets hired again by the lakers or some other team and makes 8 mill a year not fair....If you lose your license to coach your done!
If the payment of college athlete's is the solution, then this should be done under the minor league system such as what baseball has. The primary mission of all these institutions is ACADEMIC not athletic. Where is the oversight of the state for these public institutions? It is obvious the university admin can't monitor or police.
Roger Nagel primary focus is to make money. Have you seen the salaries in the UC system? I hear you but its naive to think sports isnt a huge and welcomed part of the schools budget.
How would you determine fair market value for an athlete? Would there be a salary cap for schools? Couldn't schools with the most money just "buy" all the good recruits? Although I believe athletes should receive compensation, I just don't see an easy fix for this.
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itll blow over eventually and go back to the "dont pay players" perception which really means "just dont get caught paying players"
Rich, why is this disgusting? The idea that people with skills get paid for their labor. Just because it bursts the myth of the pure amateur? Collage sport is a business. The idea that the NCAA wants to regulate their income falls flat on its face. The system will change when the players say no more. Ask your next guest who played collage sports about their attendance in class? Ask them how many players graduated. How can he be a great coach if he was just out spending the competition? Some one said you can lose with good players, but you can never win with out good players. So by buying good players you are boosting your chances of success.
The NBA needs to step in and form an organized minor league system like what baseball does. MLB has shown that college baseball and minor league baseball can co-exist. Look to the NBA to fix this. The NCAA will NEVER fix this. Why should they do what is right and pay the players when they are getting paid out the ass to do the wrong thing?
Players who want an education and greater exposure will go to college. Players who want money now will choose a minor league team in a league organized by the NBA. Get on it Silver!!! Your sport needs you.
Bilas seems to forget....how do you pay men's players and not women's? see where this is going? Women's sports make no money..so now all the sudden you are paying women who aren't drawing any revenue. The big programs can probably swing it..the smaller P5 programs would likely struggle.
You don't think 10.8 billion dollar profits from big-time NCAA sports can be filtered down to the sports that don't make a profit? haha 11 billion could fund a small European country. 11 billion could fund a war. lol There's money for women's sports, dude.
* That 10.8 number is from a 2012-2013 analysis of NCAA profits.
Let players get drafted in the nba but stay in college and let shoe companies or any company give endorsements to the top players that way the ncaa can claim their not paying anyone so they wouldn't have to pay women or lower divisions, Just let players use their likeness to make money
If your sport doesn't create profit you don't get paid. College is supposed to prepare you for the real world. In the real world It's all about supply and demand. If you have the skill that has zero demand you won't find work and you won't get paid
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Jay Bilas, you are talking ethics, but you are taking the money from this illicit trade.
I get what you're saying, but Jay isn't a coach for a div 1 college basketball team ,he's a spokesman who is paid by ESPN to discuss these and other issues concerning college basketball..
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