RSA ANIMATE: The Internet in Society: Empowering or Censoring Citizens?

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  • čas přidán 13. 03. 2011
  • Does the internet actually inhibit, rather than encourage democracy? In this RSA Animate adapted from a talk given in 2009, Evgeny Morozov presents an alternative take on 'cyber-utopianism' - the seductive idea that the internet plays a largely emancipatory role in global politics.
    This RSA Animate was taken from a lecture given as part of the RSA's free public events programme. The RSA is a 258 year-old charity dedicated to driving social progress and spreading world-changing ideas.
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    This audio has been edited from the original event by Becca Pyne, series produced by Abi Stephenson.
    Animation by Cognitive Media. Andrew Park, the mastermind behind the Animate series and everyone's favourite hairy hand, discusses their appeal and success in his blog post, 'Talk to the hand': www.thersa.org/talk-to-the-hand/.

Komentáře • 432

  • @WordsThroughTheSky
    @WordsThroughTheSky Před 10 lety +16

    I enjoyed how the mouse on the computer was a human! Also, it was a good talk.

  • @asailant2000
    @asailant2000 Před 13 lety +1

    Loving the art as always and great view on this. Thanks!

  • @oyekuise
    @oyekuise Před 13 lety +1

    Wow! This validates what I've long suspected. Thank you for such a clear (and visually-compelling) articulation of inter/action between the Internet and society.

  • @Diceman82
    @Diceman82 Před 13 lety

    I always find these RSA animate videos amusing , even tho they convey serious messages people learn things easier with a visual aid then just some random guy talking toa huge crowd.
    keep up the good work RSA.

  • @Highmelon
    @Highmelon Před 13 lety

    The artist is amazing! very original way of drawing out these thoughts. Keep up the great work guys, i really enjoy these videos.

  • @antonioadsuar6140
    @antonioadsuar6140 Před 10 lety +1

    Magnificent! Congrats for the effort :)

  • @rsaorg
    @rsaorg  Před 13 lety

    @csh0918 You can download the prints from our external animation partners website - cognitivemedia.co.uk

  • @rYiOkUn
    @rYiOkUn Před 13 lety

    This is awesome. We talked a little about this is class (just before this is posted). :)

  • @JackAttack92
    @JackAttack92 Před 13 lety +3

    Now I know that I'm more of a visual learner. And this helps greatly.

  • @drive83
    @drive83 Před 13 lety

    Great analysis.
    Thank you for sharing.

  • @stoneski
    @stoneski Před 13 lety

    I love these animations.

  • @rahxun
    @rahxun Před 12 lety

    this is just amazing.

  • @hamzahkhalaf
    @hamzahkhalaf Před 13 lety

    very interesting....certainly food for thought!

  • @louiseevans5752
    @louiseevans5752 Před 7 lety

    Excellent & Brilliant => Thanks !!

  • @ziljin
    @ziljin Před 13 lety

    Another amazing animation!

  • @DrBandrew
    @DrBandrew Před 13 lety

    never thought of it that way. thanks rsa

  • @DokterWertham
    @DokterWertham Před 13 lety

    Channeling Spiegelman. Fascinating.

  • @FatStarvingActor
    @FatStarvingActor Před 11 lety

    Haha, I love that this was posted right before Arab Spring.

  • @csh0918
    @csh0918 Před 13 lety

    I always wish I could see these in posters! They are so .... GREAT! haha...

  • @olekstom
    @olekstom Před 13 lety

    Excellent.

  • @FiverBeyond
    @FiverBeyond Před 13 lety

    A humbling video for me to watch, as I have always been a 'Cyber-utopian', and need a reminder of the harsh facts of reality.

  • @tehnatha
    @tehnatha Před 13 lety

    Love this video, and what I take from it is that Cyber Utopia isn't automagical. People still have to want and work for it.

  • @Lovereignsupreme
    @Lovereignsupreme Před 13 lety

    best one yet!

  • @braedenferdinands1871
    @braedenferdinands1871 Před 9 lety

    v insightful will recommend to my fellow friends!! 10/10!!!

  • @mikegifford
    @mikegifford Před 13 lety

    Very interesting critique of net activism. Well worth watching!

  • @aelsheikha
    @aelsheikha Před 10 lety

    That effect appeared in the 2011 Egyptian revolution, where the non official networks (mainly e-social networks) were the leading communication chain, where immediate pictures, tweets and status updates were one of the main sources of uncensored real-time information, making a mass movement of population in demonstrations and set ins, leading to the removal of the old regime.

  • @W4UTV
    @W4UTV Před 13 lety

    Very interesting concept.

  • @sickbastard151
    @sickbastard151 Před 10 lety +4

    i wonder if i can get a copy of the whole sketch...

  • @simonhoaretraining
    @simonhoaretraining Před 11 lety

    Really great talk.

  • @Peter556NATO
    @Peter556NATO Před 13 lety

    I love the Momar Gadafi cat at 4:15 :)

  • @morpheus8624
    @morpheus8624 Před 13 lety

    This RSAanimate bleeds awesomeness.

  • @cocopops2938
    @cocopops2938 Před 10 lety

    cool presentation with the mice as people

  • @monsterdemon25
    @monsterdemon25 Před 13 lety

    awesome

  • @LaitoChen
    @LaitoChen Před 11 lety

    Well Said!

  • @duchessofpercy
    @duchessofpercy Před 11 lety

    I LOVE the Lech Wałęsa mouse!!! That is too funny

  • @rtboarder09
    @rtboarder09 Před 11 lety

    well said.

  • @bluefootedpig
    @bluefootedpig Před 13 lety

    @Vayton the animals were a great use, mouse for the civilians and cats for the government, what a great way to represent the relationship. I found it very creative. Also, i prefer massive text when someone with a thick accident is speaking, so I can read what he is saying too. I guess we all have our preferences.

  • @Mauser91
    @Mauser91 Před 12 lety

    this might be the cleverest of the drawings so far

  • @SunshineInWoods
    @SunshineInWoods Před 13 lety

    The final reference to Maslow pyramid was quite good. Depressing, by the way....

  • @Vvvladimirov
    @Vvvladimirov Před 8 lety

    Very insightful presentation which raises some important issues about the utilitarian qualities of internet technologies and the political process. I especially agree on the point that the current power holders could make and are making as good (if sometimes not better) use of those technologies than the politically marginalised. Although that is invariably true it is nevertheless hard to argue against the fact that internet and the (relatively) accessible mobile devices have had an unprecedented liberating effect on many disengaged and disenfranchised people all types of existing political systems. In that sense, taking into consideration the inevitable setbacks which such a method of organisation might have; internet technology has presented us (humanity) with the best means (thus far) for democratising and the liberalising the political process.

  • @purpleghost106
    @purpleghost106 Před 13 lety

    @AirelonTrading - Exactly! Inactivity, and 'captivity' through the social media applications and technologies. *thumbs up*

  • @Usernametobechanged
    @Usernametobechanged Před 13 lety

    I LOL'd at the blind mice, took me a while to get it though

  • @CanuckWild
    @CanuckWild Před 12 lety

    @susansayler The most useful point that is made in this video; and one that must be understood by individuals engaging in this conversation is this: The internet, despite its 'ability' to be a tool for democratic production, is used more often than not as a distractor from democratic participation. Individuals spend their time infront of a screen reading about the atrocities happening and sharing opinions about them but rarely leave the house to participate in democracy.

  • @nolimit969
    @nolimit969 Před 9 lety +2

    Great work tks a lot.

  • @ItsMisterRed
    @ItsMisterRed Před 13 lety

    Great speech as usual.

  • @avaaza
    @avaaza Před 13 lety

    Well in light of what happened in Egypt I think we can clearly see that technology and social media, when used correctly, can have significant impact in leading to change.

  • @brujobits
    @brujobits Před 13 lety

    this is just an insight into the big paradox we are facing. We must be able to look beyond our cultural values and beliefs and become more tolerant and less arrogant to face these challenges.

  • @greenolivia
    @greenolivia Před 13 lety

    The Internet is a an unpredictable catalyst of the society's reaction. Evgeny Morozov's view of the internet before could been changed right now... two years after this talk.

  • @rossmac1962
    @rossmac1962 Před 13 lety

    This needs to be updated in light of what has happened in the Middle East over the last few months !!

  • @philipmarkedwards
    @philipmarkedwards Před 11 lety

    I had suggested a wide area network in the late 80's network for the benefit of remote Indian reserves in Canada. I believed that it would have a transformative effect on education and politics for the region. One thing I did reflect upon is analog to digital monitoring: such a conversion would facilitate government monitoring of communication. I believed that this was the way to sell it to the institutions while at the same time provide communication & sharing of information to average people.

  • @Steakpirate
    @Steakpirate Před 11 lety

    The visuals are everything that teachers tell us to avoid in a powerpoint presentation.

  • @ReeceofConsciousness
    @ReeceofConsciousness Před 12 lety

    His reasoning is EXACTLY why we need to ensure our anonymity online.

  • @luckyswine
    @luckyswine Před 11 lety

    Well said. Technology is a medium and information is not necessarily equated to thought - its what you bring to the table in terms of research skills and creative searching that allows you to get value out of the internet. Education and reading have to be primary drivers here, and people wont read outside their comfort zone unless they have a reason to do so.

  • @fredini
    @fredini Před 13 lety

    FYI, your lower third ad has a bad link on it...
    Love the videos though! thanks!

  • @gurnug
    @gurnug Před 13 lety

    @PokerJoey888 I think it is exactly what this video is about. There are people, who want to know more, who want to be active. There is unfortunately just more people who want just get enterteiment, or want to stay active only on the Internet.

  • @polinadronyaeva5196
    @polinadronyaeva5196 Před 10 lety

    that was a great way to spell "Maslow" :D

  • @MarkHatlestad
    @MarkHatlestad Před 13 lety

    Who's the illustrate? He's absolutely great and hilarious.

  • @nelsonm3601
    @nelsonm3601 Před 11 lety

    I agree with some point, for example if you had million people blogging/ signing an online petition protesting over a certain issue, it does simply does not have the same impact as a million people marching/protesting in the street because it is easier to ignore/ censor an online protest than a physical one. Plus the internet method seems to lack a certain sincerity and passion needed to truly drive change because people can easily hide behind online identies/ hide behind a screen.

  • @Starpilot149
    @Starpilot149 Před 12 lety

    To say that the internet is "destroying" the nation is a little(or really) harsh.
    It won't be the harbinger of ultimate democracy either, but it is an extremely useful tool in helping our global society and economy progress via instant easy communication and shopping as well as a new level of accountability in all areas of government.

  • @961kgb
    @961kgb Před 12 lety

    haha!! at 8:55 the mouse of the computer is shapes like a human! clever :)

  • @turnoniseered
    @turnoniseered Před 13 lety

    I lol so hard, this guy should be a professional comedian.

  • @mastertheillusion
    @mastertheillusion Před 12 lety

    these videos rock.

  • @MrBademantel
    @MrBademantel Před 13 lety

    @theRSAorg app for android ("unable to fetch videos"): are the vids NOT available in germany?

  • @arnyone
    @arnyone Před 12 lety

    Internet is just a medium, and threw it we can see human nature as it really is. Individualism, consumerism, egocentrism, it's just so sad, we could do so much together.

  • @Pianofy
    @Pianofy Před 13 lety

    Most of the things he mentioned as being negative were actually very positive

  • @ahryko
    @ahryko Před 13 lety

    Ahem.
    Has anyone noticed HOW CUTE these mice are?

  • @UbiquitousBooks
    @UbiquitousBooks Před 12 lety

    9:13 I love the fact that the mouse uses a human to control its computer.

  • @purpleghost106
    @purpleghost106 Před 13 lety

    @Oyaji291 - This is the trouble with most everything else being 'instant' about the internet. Assuming trend will continue is not such a folly, in most instances, that's the pattern finding portion of your brain functioning properly.
    You make a fair point, seems logical to me, I hope it pans out to be for the betterment of human rights.
    And I agree, he did sort of nudge at one of the troubles with democracy. It can very much be used to cause a tyranny of the majority type problem.

  • @soraya411
    @soraya411 Před 11 lety

    Hey there! Have you seen related to the "Phantom Cash System"? I came across it on Google Search and found out amazing stuff about it. Some of my colleague also strongly recommend me to look into it

  • @enNguyen007
    @enNguyen007 Před 13 lety

    do you guys sell these posters? i really really want to get these!

  • @yoonki
    @yoonki Před 13 lety

    I love how they plug "men" into their computers instead of "mice". 8:52

  • @EnchantedHerbs
    @EnchantedHerbs Před 11 lety

    It is a fundamental cartooning style used in political comics.

  • @217Legendary
    @217Legendary Před 12 lety

    8:41 YES!

  • @Hissyspit
    @Hissyspit Před 12 lety

    @Nidarteh1337 Well, you've convinced me with your numerous valid counterpoints and flawless logic!

  • @soycrates
    @soycrates Před 12 lety

    Best. Subtitles. Ever.

  • @morpheus8624
    @morpheus8624 Před 13 lety

    @stevo8782 I didn't get this at all from the video. The talk seemed to say that the internet will encourage negative as well as positive things, as well as oppressive governments being able to use it to subvert any attempts at political change.

  • @elchafa337
    @elchafa337 Před 13 lety

    I love "the Internat" and "the wab", don't you?

  • @VEN0MXVI
    @VEN0MXVI Před 12 lety

    He is so good at drawing... :0

  • @Jack7967
    @Jack7967 Před 11 lety

    Good job! Now go look up where this indirect part comes in. You know with representatives and such...... Yep, Republic.
    Have a nice evening!

  • @allencrown
    @allencrown Před 10 lety +1

    Doesn't this video and the free access to it, contradict any outside influence stopping anyone from sharing knowledge?
    Anyway, great content.

  • @MrCalhoun556
    @MrCalhoun556 Před 13 lety

    @whatagainst I'm not sure if everything will go exactly the way I see it coming. After all it pretty much depends on how much the internet users self are aware of the possible threats for their freedom which are coming from behind the horizon.

  • @BurkeLCH
    @BurkeLCH Před 11 lety +1

    If girls spend enough time together their menstrual cycles will sync. If humanity communicates enough our views will find common ground. Communication dissolves extreme polar views. Our 7,000,000,000 opinions are chaos. The internet speeds our determination of our strange attractor. I vote 'LOVE>FEAR'

  • @Zaptruder
    @Zaptruder Před 12 lety

    It's always worth thinking about the negative impacts of technology, if only so you can account for, and devise solutions for them.
    The march of technology isn't smoothly linear - typically technology solves a bunch of problems while creating a bunch of other issues. It's just the nature of something that has wide ranging impact - it's bound to create positive and negative externalities beyond the initial naieve intention.

  • @nassah2010
    @nassah2010 Před 13 lety

    the cat and mice made this a tiny bit confusing lol

  • @VinceMarotte
    @VinceMarotte Před 13 lety

    Two years later this guy would eat his own words.

  • @Inforcastro
    @Inforcastro Před 13 lety

    Anyone could post the transcript for this speech. Thank you!

  • @MichaelWacht
    @MichaelWacht Před 13 lety

    I think Eugeny Morozov has valid points that Western technology does not lead to democracy by default, and that the same Internet technologies used to empower citizens can be used to empower regimes. What he does not acknowledge is that sometimes Internet technology *does* facilitate democracy, as evidenced in Egypt and the Middle East.
    Ultimately the end result of a tool is entirely based on how it is used.

  • @TommyToaster
    @TommyToaster Před 13 lety

    The fundamental point is that new technologies are not inherently good or bad, but are simply tools. As such, its tendency to amplify and extend existing behaviors will be far greater than its tendency to create entirely new behaviors.
    It's a commonsensical argument, but boils down to "the more things change, the more they stay the same".

  • @MikhailBukhtoyarov
    @MikhailBukhtoyarov Před 12 lety

    Since the Web started changing business and economics it has changed politics too. It's not about traditional democracy or autocaracy, it's about changing the whole social relations paradigm.

  • @torokai
    @torokai Před 12 lety

    "Technology does not make us better people, it just makes us better at being people. There is a significant difference." -Not sure where I heard that. Very relevant to this video, though.

  • @chocmilkshake24
    @chocmilkshake24 Před 13 lety

    this cat mouse theme reminds me of the graphic novel "maus" by art spiegelman

  • @MAORIguy25
    @MAORIguy25 Před 11 lety

    When did he do the speech? Libya and egypt were pretty recent

  • @AirelonTrading
    @AirelonTrading Před 13 lety

    @sietsesterrenburg From 9:13 onwards was his point

  • @ireallygotnothing
    @ireallygotnothing Před 12 lety

    at first i was listening to the message, but then after a while, i just listened to the guy's russian accent

  • @kkulriksen
    @kkulriksen Před 13 lety

    @sanberghful talk given in 2009 ;)

  • @howdoesudo
    @howdoesudo Před 13 lety

    @Hopefulfilment at least you picked the right video to comment this on, where you're likely to get support for this link and get the thumbs to let more people see it

  • @hoorano
    @hoorano Před 7 lety

    Can you make an animated presentation of Edward Snowden's revelations and all the NSA and other government components involved? This may be very difficult for anyone to do.

  • @juanky525
    @juanky525 Před 13 lety

    It’s out of control. I just want to make a videogame. Because I had the audacity of asking for services when I’m a young man in dept with no job, institutions refuse to believe this is my intention. This triggered a whole line of privacy invading protocols, media actions and discriminations. I have nowhere to go and they won’t let me work. They can’t stop paying attention to me. Petrifying.

  • @MrAppleJaxs
    @MrAppleJaxs Před 12 lety

    what I'm saying is my speculation. I'm looking at many of the bads, there are good and I will not deny them either. 500 characters is rather tough in space constraints to formulate two sides of an argument.

  • @ACPetrides
    @ACPetrides Před 13 lety

    @gatheringwithin That was not a 'dumb' video. What he is suggesting is that although all these perceived freedoms exist and are supposedly more accesible because of our heightened connectivity, there is also another side where people can get absorbed and made captive by the online community. People become engrossed in living online and fail to actually do. He is explaining that this form of captivation is often not addressed and may be a growing problem.