How Many Quacks Does it Take to Launch a 32’ Trimaran? | Sailing Soulianis - Ep. 120

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  • It’s launch day! We’re excited to splash our trimaran, but nervous as heck, too. This is our first time stepping the huge 42’ mast ourselves. We think we’ve followed all the setup instructions, but little problems start adding up - and so do the quacks.
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Komentáře • 396

  • @chiefenumclaw7960
    @chiefenumclaw7960 Před rokem +79

    My girl and I split up because we couldn't agree on the fat percentage of our milk - She was a 1% whilst I will go to my grave with 2%. Meanwhile, Team Soulianis over here communicating and working together like a well-oiled machine. Many quacks, but never at one another. Good job Fam!

    • @MusicMike939
      @MusicMike939 Před rokem +2

      Try almond milk. Much better.

    • @Daledsch
      @Daledsch Před rokem +10

      @@MusicMike939 that's nut juice not milk

    • @edwardmartin7753
      @edwardmartin7753 Před rokem

      Milk’s bad for you.

    • @peterwright9607
      @peterwright9607 Před rokem +7

      Well done for presenting a very honest ... first time in water video...... we have to step our mast too. You gin pole far too short the pull from the winch and is too shallow an angle to head of mast. This means incredible strain at almost straight pull with no lift. Make a wooden support for cockpit end to cradle the mast in a position a couple of feet higher and even a gin pole 18 in longer will cope

    • @chriskirkman5425
      @chriskirkman5425 Před rokem

      Hang in there. Yeap r gave it r best shot

  • @akjhome
    @akjhome Před rokem +14

    Now THAT is new boat ownership. I appreciate you sharing the struggles. It makes your channel more honest and you all more trustworthy.

  • @dejapex1
    @dejapex1 Před rokem +5

    I have owned three Farrier trimarans. The current one is an F22 I built. I am 77 and often raise and lower my mast totally by myself - it sort of amazes me. You will soon get this mast raising business down by using the Farrier plans and the F-Boat forum. Wise decision to just get the mast up and enjoy the summer sailing. You may have to get some aluminum items fabricated but there are plenty of resources in Michigan. Thanks for the video. Good Luck and enjoy the summer. Take care

  • @vanbarrettdesign
    @vanbarrettdesign Před rokem +2

    Michiganders… you rock.

  • @3865ron
    @3865ron Před rokem +18

    I'll bet there a lot of boat owners wouldn't have posted this. Congrats to you folks for doing so. Sailing is not always fair winds and cold drinks! :)

  • @joeweeks7256
    @joeweeks7256 Před rokem +30

    You have to use a pole or a piece of wood to pick up the top of the mast to change the angle of the mast

    • @artsmith103
      @artsmith103 Před rokem +4

      Some kind of bunk across the stern will help. My mast starts some 10° above horizontal.

    • @jamespyacek2691
      @jamespyacek2691 Před rokem +6

      That's what I was thinking... get it up above the horizontal.

    • @richardnwilson
      @richardnwilson Před rokem +2

      Two thoughts on raising the mast. First use a longer Jin pole. Second the most force by far is required at the very beginning of raising the mast. A little help Pushing nearer the top of the mast for the first few feet will make a big difference. Good luck!

  • @bumpkin52
    @bumpkin52 Před rokem +14

    I used the same process to raise the mast on my Stuart Mariner. Getting the head of the mast at least 10 to 15 degrees above horizontal will make a huge difference. Also I attached the main halyard to the gin pole.

  • @stephengreen2898
    @stephengreen2898 Před rokem +5

    Wow… This is the MOST realistic video of what it is REALLY like when you own a trailerable sail boat…. Beautiful presentation!

    • @Ravenswingsailing
      @Ravenswingsailing Před rokem

      But this video does not show what it's like to launch these boats when they're properly set up. We routinely get them from the parking lot to sailing in 30 minutes. The Corsair Marine launching videos are realistic. - a longtime owner

  • @actoraa
    @actoraa Před rokem +9

    One of those moments of panic that are an integral part of boating. 😂 You did well!

  • @PREPERMIKE2012
    @PREPERMIKE2012 Před rokem +5

    As many Quacks as needed is just fine, dont get down on yourselves with the fail. Your smiles make it all worth watching and I cant wait for you to get where you want to be.

  • @SailingTipsCa
    @SailingTipsCa Před rokem +3

    What an adventure!!! Don't despair - the first time we launched our F-82R trimaran it took at least three hours and we had even practiced raising the mast at home beforehand!. Your gin pole looks a bit short and flimsy for the size of your mast. A longer stouter pole would help quite a bit! I think ours is about 8' long and our mast is a couple feet shorter than yours.

  • @chrisjohns7137
    @chrisjohns7137 Před rokem +2

    Don't give up on raising and lowering the mast yourselves. It's the reason you bought the boat. Repair the deck, maybe use a temporary prop under it to give extra support during raise lowering ops.
    Devise a method, try it, tweak it, perfect it and make it slick and safe. Where there's a will.......
    Great people, great vid. Thank you.

  • @robertthompson9455
    @robertthompson9455 Před rokem +8

    OK, get a "Stand Pole" that will base on the ground and lift the mast from the mast head several feet. That will take an enormous strain off of the wench, lever pole and the step plate. Finishing the lift from this partial lift will be much easier...The Old Guy

    • @artsmith103
      @artsmith103 Před rokem

      Or a bunk on the stern if it can handle the weight. Pole to the ground is good idea if necessary. Typically very long reach.

    • @AORD72
      @AORD72 Před rokem

      Or a person standing on the stem lifting the the mast up to get past the initial direct strain of the almost straight pull. Wonder how much the mast weights?

  • @paulcrane2010
    @paulcrane2010 Před rokem +10

    Guys thanks for sharing such a seemingly stressful update. I can only imagine that when you’re under such pressure with your expectations and exciting ramped, that filming isn’t exactly your top priority, so thanks.

  • @candiwings
    @candiwings Před rokem +5

    We have a Dragonfly folding trimaran and can fully sympathise with your struggle! When we first got our boat it was also a very steep learning curve, however the rewards have been very worthwhile. Keep learning and enjoy the ride!

  • @markkendal5490
    @markkendal5490 Před rokem +5

    Wow, what a team! Having had a sailboat where we could raise the mast ourselves and being terrrified each time we tried I feel your pain - and then the outboard! You folks did so well - nothing but admiration from here! 🙂

  • @johnachim2056
    @johnachim2056 Před rokem +1

    Congrats, great experience. We have a 1994 F 27, bought it new. We took a Catalina 30 sailor for a ride and the next year he bought a c28. We race out of Milwaukee. The 28 is more complicated to raise and lower the mast. We paid a lot of tuition learning. Next time. Tie the bow down. Use two halyards. The line connection’s need to be on the bow side of the gin pole. The most deflection is at the start of lift and at the end of lowering. The stern support needs to be higher than the deck to help on the angle of lift. The short temp lower lifting stays need to be attached the whole Time. The cap shrouds can be free till the floats are out and bolted in. There are a lot of 28 sailors in MI. That you can get input from. There also is a F boat/Corsair list that has archives of everything. Welcome to the boats with training wheels. Remember to wave when you pass the other boats.

  • @ericvanvlandren8987
    @ericvanvlandren8987 Před rokem +5

    Oh my gosh, I was living and dying with you every moment!
    At least the preview of the next episode is less anxiety inducing!
    So happy and proud for you guys!!!

  • @threedprintedmarinetechnol3330

    It was lovely to see a very stressful situation get solved with no yelling and all smiles at the end. Proving once again that my childhood boating experiences didn't need to be the way they were.

    • @gsftom
      @gsftom Před rokem +1

      Launching and starting large boats that u don’t use often or haven’t used lately requires yelling 🙂. Lol

    • @michaels1554
      @michaels1554 Před rokem

      So did you think all those ducks flying across the screen were for humor? 😝No, that was when all the cussing and yelling was taking place and then edited to make everything look all rosy and smiles for the you tube algorithm and audience.😂

    • @kirenireves
      @kirenireves Před rokem

      @@michaels1554 The ducks were launched at the situation, not at each other. Crucial difference!

  • @shadylane7988
    @shadylane7988 Před rokem +2

    LOL...in my experience, it takes 5 people to launch a '32 tri that's supposed to take two people 2 - 3 hours and even then, lines get twangled, shit gets dropped, things break, boat gelcoat gets dinged, tensions run high, people bust their backs....it's all in the attitude! Yep, the engine doesn't start, you drag rudder and don't forget to clear the power lines! And leave home with ALL apparatus, plenty of tools and replacement parts and some guerrilla tape!

  • @billroberts3864
    @billroberts3864 Před rokem +4

    You two are fantastic and made a valiant effort to step the mast yourselves. And you could give each other big hugs when you decided to let the boat yard to step the mast for you. You are inspirational and yes, professional because you know when to ask for assistance instead of breaking something or hurt yourselves. Blessings to you as you go sailing.

  • @captchia
    @captchia Před rokem +8

    Great try! You never know what you can do if you don’t at least try. Only thing I would’ve done different was practice stepping the mast at home, so when at the boat ramp you look like pros banging it up with a quickness, and you’ve addressed all the issues before hand!

    • @SailingSoulianis
      @SailingSoulianis  Před rokem +4

      Lol, I guess we have no shame. We're putting it all up on the internet anyway :)

    • @meestahwah
      @meestahwah Před rokem +1

      ​@SailingSoulianis captchia does have a point here. Being able to do trial runs from the comfort of your front yard might help you get the process down pat so when you get to the far flung ports you plan to trailer this boat to, stepping the mast won't be so foreign. I do hope you get the system figured out. I have been looking forward to you cats cruising in far flung places! Cheers from Seattle.

    • @captchia
      @captchia Před rokem +5

      @@SailingSoulianis that’s the mark of professionals. We take lessons from our failures, and improve. Along the way, we help others learn from of our mistakes. Make no mistake, you guys are professional sailors. Don’t let anyone tell you otherwise. It’s only a matter of time before you’re blue water veterans! Fair winds, and following seas!

    • @billroberts3864
      @billroberts3864 Před rokem +2

      @@SailingSoulianis Thanks for posting the attempt at stepping the mast so we can see the trials and tribulations involved in the process.

  • @stevebaker4303
    @stevebaker4303 Před rokem +4

    Wow! You guys are usually so prepared. I mean that as a compliment. This was one of those “let’s give it a try” deals. You worked through it well. God bless your Dad! Steady as a rock. You’ll get this figured out. From watching you trying to step the mast I saw two things. First as you saw the boat was moving in the trailer. Second I bet if you would have picked the mast up about 10 degrees with some sort of crutch it would have gone up. Picking it up from the pure horizontal is really asking a lot. Keep at it!

  • @brianmiller7934
    @brianmiller7934 Před rokem +5

    You all work so well together!
    You can practice/troubleshoot this at home, yes? This would let you check the sails and running rig with less pressure. You could get all your sheets and halyards sorted out ahead of launch time. Thanks for sharing your adventures!

  • @erichaskell
    @erichaskell Před rokem +3

    Having learned to raise our mast on our 24 foot trailerable I know how stressful this can be. You will conquer this.

  • @christopherbarber9351
    @christopherbarber9351 Před rokem +1

    Thank you for providing the "it isn't working!" footage.

  • @sailingsomeday5975
    @sailingsomeday5975 Před rokem +1

    Love the spooky music as your drifting at the rocks

  • @bpersons14
    @bpersons14 Před rokem +1

    New boats always present big learning curves but that was UNREAL, you guys remained calm and worked together as a team to ensure you didn't ground the boat. Well done team!

  • @jfierstien
    @jfierstien Před rokem +2

    I learned to sail on Lake Charlevoix. It was fun seeing the boat launch area and a tiny shot of the town. Hopefully we will see the old ferry and of course the bridge when you take it out on the big lake.

  • @ProspectingMonkey
    @ProspectingMonkey Před rokem +8

    West Marine sells a rode bag that you attach to your bowpit will hold 300ft or 150 and up 24 ft of chain. My boat doesn't have an anchor locker either I find this helpful. I think the mesh bag alone is 69$ hope this helps!

  • @michaellau5645
    @michaellau5645 Před rokem +2

    Love the quacks!! You guys--awesome!!

  • @opinionsmatter5201
    @opinionsmatter5201 Před rokem +1

    Love the duck

  • @stelliform
    @stelliform Před rokem +3

    I stepped my mast on my Catalina 22 a few times in my backyard before I ever tried at the launch. And my mast is nothing compared to your mast. Great video! I’m excited for you guys!

  • @geniexmay562
    @geniexmay562 Před rokem +2

    Very fraught!! Well done for not having a melt down!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @davidtiedt2767
    @davidtiedt2767 Před rokem +2

    y'all did great and i loved every minute of the video...... brought back memories of stepping our mast for the first time... second time and many more times.... Y'all did wonderful... thank you.... as for electric... naw... gas is the way but it is all a learning process... congrats..... job well done...

  • @dennyoconnor8680
    @dennyoconnor8680 Před rokem +2

    With fuel engines parts and repairs and mechanics are everywhere. With electric, when it dies as it will, you are well and truly dead in the water unless you are moored in front of the dealer.

  • @petermcminn9508
    @petermcminn9508 Před rokem +1

    Nice work you 2. Tough situations are part of the story. Good to laugh and persevere as you do😎

  • @allanc6241
    @allanc6241 Před rokem

    I give the three of you 👍👍👍for not pushing a bad situation. You have a great back yard with lots of room to work out all the problems and correct them one at a time in stepping the mast.

  • @alpensler5844
    @alpensler5844 Před rokem +1

    You may have already figured a solution by now but I had a 23 ft trailerable sail boat for over 30 years. I first had a brace on the stern built with a “Y” attached to the top which had a trailer roller between the tip. This allowed me to easily roll the mast backwards. I then had a square tube extension made on the front of the trailer which came up about 8 feet from the winch table assembly. Using a series of pulleys and a bracket on the mast I was able to get the leverage to raise the mast once the rear tabernacle pin was in place. To top it off, I used a power winch motor with a remote to wind it up or let it down. The main thing is not to allow the mast wander left or right on the way up because it will rip the tabernacle off the top of your roof. Once you get it past the 45 degree mark you’ll be able to push it the rest of the way by hand. Stepping the mast down can be just as complicated. Also, remember that your shrouds and stays can last ten years or a thousand feet if you allow them to drag on the road. Also my back stay and shrouds had a tendency to kink on the way up if you didn’t lay them out correctly before the stepping.

  • @billharrington172
    @billharrington172 Před rokem

    I feel you. The stress. The failure. 50 things going wrong all at once. The joy with ultimate success. I've been there. Well done!

  • @jameshulderman634
    @jameshulderman634 Před rokem +3

    Great video! Cool to see some other multihauls in the mix ;) Very suspenseful watching you guys step that mast, That is a scary moment. We take for granted being able to due it by hand on the F18 Catamaran. Great comunication and decsion not to use the trailer step mast system that day. Lots of load there, hopefully you can get it sorted for ease this season.

  • @robertschapler670
    @robertschapler670 Před rokem +1

    use a longer (x2) 4x4 post. cut round hole in bottom to take the base of the tabernacle and try again. The longer "pole" will greatly improve the leverage and thus ease the load overall.

  • @Sailspirit99
    @Sailspirit99 Před rokem +2

    Here in Perth, Western Oz, we call those thingys that help prevent the sideways movement while raising a deck stepped mast “wobble stoppers” 😂😂😂 ⛵️😎

  • @Thomas-ts2gl
    @Thomas-ts2gl Před rokem +1

    On my 25' Catalina about a 30 ' mast. I made about a 6' bracket with a roller and guides that attaches to the stern, set the mast on the roller and walk the mast back to attachment point. It puts the mast at enough that you can directly attach to the mast. I use and electric wench with cable to raise it. And to raise it by myself. I also made brackets off the center pivot point of the mast that the mast side guide wires can attach to keep it centered as it goes up. Hope this helps.

  • @keebearfull
    @keebearfull Před rokem +1

    Good to know I share "O Sh_ _ !" sailing moments with you guys. The heavy handful I've know have ALL been along the eastern shores, bays and docks of wonderful Lake Michigan's connecting waterways. There's a lot worse places than Lake Charlevoix to make memories. Love this episode. Keep keeping it real!

  • @matthewsciarrotta2118
    @matthewsciarrotta2118 Před rokem +1

    In boats and in life its about adapting to the changes. You guys seem to have that process mastered. Could you have one more variable thrown at you. When Kirk figures out how to get the mast up without the boat yard's help a video of "how" it was done would be great.

  • @svaileana
    @svaileana Před rokem +1

    Apologies is this was said before, but halyard to gin pole then cable from winch to gin pole. The winch should only pull the gin pole forward which then pulls the halyard forward along with the mast. Making the halyard one continuous cable with the winch only compresses the gin pole. Love the channel!!

    • @SailingSoulianis
      @SailingSoulianis  Před rokem +1

      I can see this working IF our gin pole is the exact length of the J measurement AKA from the mast to the bow roller that the winch line comes up through. Otherwise with a shorter pole, like we currently have, the winch line would be pulling at the wrong angle to the gin pole once the pivot moves beyond the 45 degree/mid point.

  • @sailingmahina1
    @sailingmahina1 Před 5 měsíci

    My wife and I sail a Corsair F27 Stepping the mast is very stressful… my wife and I really appreciate your honesty… we have a ladder system attached to assist raising our mast…

  • @kleinbiker1
    @kleinbiker1 Před rokem +1

    I've stepped several large masts using this gin pole method and it's def not for the faint of heart!

  • @humbledsparrows4687
    @humbledsparrows4687 Před rokem +1

    Years ago, we had a Chrysler 26 and we stepped the master just like you were attempting to do, it worked great. That was the best trailer sailer we ever had.

  • @stephenwissel7902
    @stephenwissel7902 Před rokem

    I love you guys, all the issues and NOT one angry word. It will get easier with practice.

  • @frankchristensen5778
    @frankchristensen5778 Před rokem +1

    A WHOLE TRIBE OF DUCKS!!! Well done on finding and fixing the fuel Issue. Happy sailing guys. Greetings from sunny Perth, West Australia. 39°C today! Cheers, Frank.

  • @oh-brothers
    @oh-brothers Před rokem +32

    Did you try to lift the end of the mast before winching it? From dead level it seems like there is a lot of stress at play while winching.

    • @AORD72
      @AORD72 Před rokem +4

      Exactly, if they had someone lifting the mast from the stern of the boat they would have gotten past the biggest load on the halyard.

    • @islandonlinenews
      @islandonlinenews Před rokem +5

      Yeh, could easily walk it up with two people. Don’t even need the gin pole and winch.

    • @SailingSoulianis
      @SailingSoulianis  Před rokem +6

      @@islandonlinenews The mast is 42.5 feet long and weighs somewhere in the 150-200# range. This is not something that can be walked up.

    • @islandonlinenews
      @islandonlinenews Před rokem

      @@SailingSoulianis oh, looked more like 33 to me. you're probably right. 3 people then haha.

    • @artsmith103
      @artsmith103 Před rokem

      @@islandonlinenews The problem is with that kind of weight, the person holding the mast head line far forward of the bow will get pulled out of their shoes.

  • @itsbriankearney
    @itsbriankearney Před rokem

    Still showing the sense of humor at 15:45...well done. Terror is the absence of humor, and vice versa!

  • @rumblechick73
    @rumblechick73 Před rokem +2

    Well, that was a cluster-quack! LOL But entertaining to watch...even if a bit stressful. For future reference, always test your anchoring system BEFORE you need it. Glad the preview shows success coming soon!

  • @johntesar2522
    @johntesar2522 Před rokem +1

    It might help to have a longer gin pole. I have read that the gin pole should be minimum of the quarter of the mast length. I also echo the comments below regarding picking the mast so it's not horizontal at the start of the lift. Thanks for the videos. I have been a fan since you to the boat down the river from Chicago.

  • @SeanFChannel
    @SeanFChannel Před rokem +1

    You guys are so calm about this. Is that the magic of editing or were you all really this chiller out and happy. This video should be thought in schools on how not to get overly irritated. Bravo

    • @asufluffhead
      @asufluffhead Před rokem

      You realize reality TV is edited too, right?

  • @nanoceramics2747
    @nanoceramics2747 Před rokem

    Keeping your cool in stressful situation is the only way to staying safe. Stepping a 40 foot mast when you will only be two people can get people hurt or at a minimum cause some serious damage. I had the experience on my boat with a 50-foot mass with all of the precautions taken the wind came out of nowhere and almost killed a friend. I am trying to scare you! and suggest that having your mast stepped at the boat yard is the best solution. Congratulations to you both it is a beautiful thing to see a couple working as a team. Stay safe and enjoy every moment with your little one.

  • @aussiequest9543
    @aussiequest9543 Před rokem

    So good to see you smiling at the end. What a frustrating time for you both

  • @Ravenswingsailing
    @Ravenswingsailing Před rokem +2

    Hi Soulianis. If you haven't already solved this, the aft mast support should be much higher. You can see that on Corsair 31s with factory trailering setups. Like get the masthead nearly 13' off the ground. And you'll want the different size lawn mower wheels back there to allow easier rolling and to keep it from jumping sideways. PM me if this doesn't make sense.
    Peace :)

  • @ginniejoblue3541
    @ginniejoblue3541 Před rokem

    I owned an F27 and now an F32AX. Raising the mast is terrifying. This brought back lots of memories of those first few times. Nice job keeping your cool. It can be a very frazzling experience. I'm not sure I've seen this mentioned in the comments-- when you're going to motor, spread out those floats. Sharp turns with wind can lead to capsize if still folded. I was holding my breath the entire motor, but you made it! Great video and thanks for sharing the realities of our amazing trailerable tris!

  • @noahcraciun2230
    @noahcraciun2230 Před rokem +1

    Hey guys, I like watching your videos. I'm sure you know by now, but you have to give the mast a little bit of a boost to help get it started when raising it with a ginpole. You could put tons of pressure on the trailer winch, if the mast is level, it will never have the boost to get up! I have been doing this and similar mends for years, and we always have someone walking with the mast to guide it and help with the initial boost! Hope this helps!

  • @zachhawkins5225
    @zachhawkins5225 Před rokem

    Man.... that's gonna be a GREAT story..... in like 5 years.

  • @macariobernal1914
    @macariobernal1914 Před rokem

    What a learning experience for you guys. Congratulations on your first water experience.

  • @MrPaulcm1
    @MrPaulcm1 Před rokem

    Hey at least you guys gave it a go and well done on not losing the plot. All in all a good learning experience. :)

  • @markayers5397
    @markayers5397 Před rokem +1

    usually when using a gin pole you would use a line from the pole to the middle of your mast or around the spreaders and a second line from tge gin pole to the winch. this way you are not dragging a line across the top of tge pole and the pressure is not compounded by friction. it's hard to tell if that is what you are doing in the video if so please ignore the comment. Also, when you are just starting to lift, that is the maximum pressure on your line and downward pressure on your hin pole. at that point if you have someone pushing up om the top of the mast, you will find even a little up pressure will make the mast go up and lower the pressure on the gin pole greatly. just may two cents from raising hobie masts by hand for many years.

  • @jeremyk496
    @jeremyk496 Před rokem

    I bought my first "big" sailboat a couple of years ago, a 1980 O'Day 25. Being able to trailer, store, and step the mast myself were big selling points. However, after a short season of sailing (also in MI BTW with a brother that lives in Racine...small world), I have now accepted that I'm not willing to spend go through the hassle of stepping the mast each time I want to sail. It's stressful, to say the least and takes about an hour if everything goes well. Then, you still have to launch the boat, park the truck/trailer, etc. and do it all in reverse when you're done sailing. I just leased a slip in St. Ignace for the 2023 season with the hope of more time on the water and less in the parking lot. 😀Maybe I'll see you guys out there!

  • @candylook50
    @candylook50 Před rokem

    Very impressed by how you were able to keep your cool - bravo!

  • @ramesa1154
    @ramesa1154 Před rokem +1

    Great video, I use a similar system to raise and lower my mast on a Seawind 24 Cat. It works but the initial lift from horizontal is difficult so I use my crew (wife and children) to assist with pushing the mast up as high as they can whilst I pull her up. Good luck it is a fantastic boat, I am a little envious!

  • @markbias1466
    @markbias1466 Před rokem

    There's always trouble the first time, glad to see you got things going the right way...
    As always, great episode! 😀

  • @alansaunders8377
    @alansaunders8377 Před rokem

    Welcome to the world of trailer sailors. When we show up at the ramp, everyone gathers around for the show. It is very stressful. As I was watching your video, my wife came in the room,. After watching several minutes of it with me, she left the room. She remembered those days when we took our Macgregor 26M to the ramp and stepped the mast. It was nerve racking to say the least. There are ways to reduce the stress. Practice at your house first. Practice makes perfect...or at least close enough to it. I remember on one launch I had readjusted the stays that are attached to the mast to prevent port sway and starboard sway. Apparently just a little bit of slack in the lines can equal a lot of sway. I had to hold on to the mast in order for it not to swing over into another boat in the marina (yes, we were stepping the mast in the water, not a good thing to do). Eventually we always got things sorted out. The moral of this story is this: Practice everything at home until you become proficient. It will reduce stress considerably at the dock.

  • @DesertSurfer
    @DesertSurfer Před rokem

    You all will get there. I rig my 26 footer by myself from tow to launch including installing outboard, rudder and stepping mast in around an hour.

  • @SchieEngineer
    @SchieEngineer Před rokem +1

    Loved watching this episode. I have been watching you guys for a long time. I crew on a Tartan and I had purchased a MacGregor 25x. This reminded me of the first time stepping the mast on the MacGregor in my driveway. Getting it started is always the worst as all the tensions in the lines are highest. I would actually assist it up for the first few feet by hand lifting the mast from the back of the boat as someone else was on the winch. This would would greatly decrease the tension needed to get it started and once it was up a few feet the tensions really weren't that bad. I hope you guys can figure out stepping the mast as that is when the fact of being trailerable really comes in handy.

  • @Tomm9y
    @Tomm9y Před rokem +1

    The halyard needs to be attached to the gin pole and the winch strap at the same time. That will prevent the gin pole from moving for and aft in relation to the mast, it would require enough pre-tension of the Halyard. I would also pre-lift the mast by hand onto a strut, that significantly reduces the initial load. As the mast rises the load reduces. You can even add safety ropes to the side decks up to the mast at the speaders, remember to tie off low down on the mast, e.g. around the goose neck, in time you can make a bridle with two arrachment points to the deck and a centre link at the height and in line with the tabernacle pivot. Lastly the boat must be securely strapped to the trailer and support the rear of the trailer. Practise on a calm day! I have used this method on a monohull for a long time.

  • @codyvanderhyde6483
    @codyvanderhyde6483 Před rokem

    Launched at that ramp several times.....always an adventure. congrats on the new boat!

  • @catherinehackett7722
    @catherinehackett7722 Před rokem

    Oh, what a stressful day! But you handled it so well, and YOU'RE ON THE WATER!!!❤️⛵️

  • @tomgreen5701
    @tomgreen5701 Před rokem +1

    I know it was stressful for both of you, it was a great video!

  • @cowsjohnson2306
    @cowsjohnson2306 Před rokem

    Oy what a long day . Stepping a mast on deck can be easy it just takes learning the curve. As others have said the far end of the mast has to be up on an angle so the lift has already started, say at between 9 and 10 o'clock. The temp side stays will also be a learning curve but don't give up .
    I went thru the same problem I ended up making my own deck step plate assembly ,now it's a one person job .
    Best to you both .
    Angus

  • @mm.stgermain
    @mm.stgermain Před rokem

    wow, I forgot about these guys. Welcome back to my algorithm

  • @BrianStDenis-pj1tq
    @BrianStDenis-pj1tq Před rokem

    I had forgotten what a "quack" was on your channel the first time I saw the title of the vid. Then I remembered and clicked immediately! Fun video to watch, good job.

  • @chrisclarke3670
    @chrisclarke3670 Před rokem

    Wow, what an effort to get ready to go. I’m sure future outings will go smoother. Good luck.

  • @sailingeden9866
    @sailingeden9866 Před rokem +2

    Most people use a mast crutch to lift the mast to a higher starting point.

  • @christip20
    @christip20 Před rokem +1

    You guys could go look at “Tulas Endless Summer” channel from maybe a year ago?.. They used a Corsair for a season and they were able to raise & lower the mast on that one, although I can’t remember the size. But… you can probably see a lot , like lines going inside or outside. You probably already know them & can just call and ask anything you want to know. They’re Billy & Sierra & they’re on a motor boat they got for $100 & refitted it while they’re waiting on their Catamaran to to finished. I loved watching those videos, these boats are so fast and light. I can’t wait to see how it goes with a family. Congratulations!

  • @richardnwilson
    @richardnwilson Před rokem

    Great video thank you! It brings back memories of us with our Catalina 22 and issues with it's Mast and its motor!

  • @jsimpson3250
    @jsimpson3250 Před rokem

    You guys are doing it!! Love to boat!! Being on the west coast thought that boat would be perfect for sailing down to the Sea of Cortez then trailer home.
    Glad you got her in the water without incident or injury!! Enjoy Cheers

  • @bmw19877
    @bmw19877 Před rokem

    Oh how awesome. The 3 of you are great. If you are ever vacationing in the Phoenix, AZ area, you could leave Renata with me for a week or 2 - she is so smart.

  • @WildRoverSailing
    @WildRoverSailing Před rokem +1

    Perhaps raising from the cockpit with a line run back to the primary would keep everything from moving around. Set the halyard with a 3:1 block and start cranking.

    • @artsmith103
      @artsmith103 Před rokem

      My mast is about 50% the load of theirs and I have a 4:1 block to the gib pole. But their primary winch is probably bigger than mine. I don't feel I have excess mechanical advantage.

    • @WildRoverSailing
      @WildRoverSailing Před rokem

      @@artsmith103 yup. Nobody ever complains about having too much power. I used to own a 22 footer with a 27 foot Proctor mast, 70s style, built like a tank. I used 3:1 but the winches were puny. Once locked into the tabernacle, the spin pole made a dandy jib pole. Granted that’s significantly lighter than a 40 foot mast!

  • @waynejenkins421
    @waynejenkins421 Před rokem

    Launch day is always stressful, I feel your pain. A few suggestions from an F31 owner. My boat lives on a mooring during the season so it's a similar scenario. Consider always starting the outboard and running it about 10-15 minutes when you are at home just before trailering it to the ramp. That way there's no surprises at the ramp (been there done that). Also think about stepping the mast with the boat unfolded on the mooring. I find I'm much more relaxed when I can take my time and not worry about onlookers. On the mooring the boat is always pointing into the wind so there's less concern about the mast swinging. I usually use the screacher halyard as the primary with a spin halyard and jib halyard as a secondary and tertiary line all attached forward of the yoke to a shackle on a 5/8" 3:1 block and tackle arrangement that anchors to the stemhead fitting at the bow of the boat. The line then goes aft from the stemhead fitting to one of the 2 speed winches. It's VERY important that the attachment point for all the shackles is forward of the yoke. As you winch the mast up the shackles also move forward and will catch on the yoke. They won't clear the yoke until the mast is about 30-40 degrees up. There is a huge load on the raising line until about 50-60 degrees where the weight starts to transfer to the mast base so using the 2-speed winch and block and tackle makes it much easier. The block attached to the stemhead gets in the way of attaching the roller furling drum, so once the mast is vertical I take the backup halyards to the bow pulpit to temporarily hold the mast, then quickly transfer the block to the bowsprit to bring the mast forward of vertical and attach the roller furling drum to the stemhead fitting. The stemhead seems MUCH beefier than using the bowsprit pad eye for the whole operation, but maybe that's just me. It adds some extra steps to do it this way, but it's worked for 23 years. At any rate, good to see you got the boat in the water.

  • @JamesNewsomeCaiLeighAnna

    I’ve raised a 35’ mast using an 11’ gin-pole. I think your gin pole was undersized especially if it was bending!
    Try raising & lowering it at your house before launching it the next time.

  • @Moshiah11
    @Moshiah11 Před rokem +1

    That was awesome communication during that. I definitely strive for what you guys accomplished, but my wife and I could definitely take pointers from you.
    I'm really surprised with how the instructions had you setup that gin pole. The way that I've seen it setup is that both the halyard and the winch line are both attached to the end of the gin pole instead of being directly attached to each other and sliding over the gin pole. That way you have less pressure pushing down on the gin pole and the force of the winch line all goes into pulling the gin pole forward which tips the mast up.

    • @artsmith103
      @artsmith103 Před rokem

      I suspect they'll do it more like you described in the future. That's how my 26ft boat mast is. I'm also suspicious that isn't the factory specified kin pole, as in too short. No way the factory supplies a pole not ready to use. But these tris are more DIY, which again could result in too short pole. I'm sure the bugs have been worked out by now.

  • @sailingschooners8668
    @sailingschooners8668 Před rokem

    Yer driving me quackers, stay safe guys

  • @jay-2556
    @jay-2556 Před rokem

    Love the flying ducks!

  • @EdToml
    @EdToml Před rokem +1

    Must have been a REALLY frustrating couple of days. Its never fun when you are drifting towards land when you do not want to be... Glad you got the boat deployed in the end. Quack!

  • @yougeo
    @yougeo Před rokem +1

    I love the way that you guys came together when you failed with the mast rather than getting angry at each other which so many couples do period the failure brought you closer rather than pushed you apart which is just such a good thing and the way it should always be period

  • @michaelmargaret4265
    @michaelmargaret4265 Před rokem

    I know this video is well well beyond when filmed. But, for this spring when you try again, I had a 25 footer with a 32' mast that I trailer sailed and raised the mast with a gin pole. I always had a wood 4x4 stilt about 12 feet long with a "Y" yoke on it that I would jamb underneath the mast about 3/4 of the way down to raise up from horizontal position temporarily until I started cranking it up. The other end of the stilt was on the pavement. This gave enough of a mast angle to take the vertical stress off the gin pole. It basically gives the system a head start! You might have to experiment how much you need to stilt it but it should work.

    • @AORD72
      @AORD72 Před rokem +1

      Exactly, the initial low angle creates the most load on the halyard, if they even had someone lift from stern to get past the initial high force tight angle of the lift they surely would have be fine. Surely all it probably would have taken was the height of a person standing on the stern.

  • @fromParis2011
    @fromParis2011 Před rokem

    Great episode !!! Il was funny and nice . Thank you so much !!

  • @toddreddington9673
    @toddreddington9673 Před rokem +1

    I like watching you two ~ or three !

  • @samotisfamily
    @samotisfamily Před rokem

    There is a couple that has a trimaran that has launched a few times that I have seen at Blackpoint Marine on Alfred's channel the Chit Show. Love your videos no matter what type of boating you do, everything you guys are doing is completely relatable in one way shape or form!

  • @haydenpruitt5199
    @haydenpruitt5199 Před rokem

    Oh cool fellow michiganders I just bought my first sailboat last week I cannot wait I like your videos by the way

  • @christopherdickens7514

    What a nice breezy day to launch!