Pakistani bagpipes are good for two things: 1. Displaying over a fireplace 2. Burning in a fireplace* *order does not necessarily reflect level of appropriateness
Last rant: I understand that Pakistani musicians use a different method of musical tuning(being fond a quarter step intervals, whereas Western musicians prefer half and whole step intervals) but these parts are being marketed as Western Scottish Style Bagpipes and therefore are quite misleading. This I feel is the biggest issues with the large influx of Pakistani instruments hitting the Western Market. If the Pakistani manufacturers ever want to make a serious positive impact in the Western Piping Community, they should consider meeting the same consistent standards of Scottish Pipes. UNTIL THIS IS DONES, buyers beware, these instruments are made to a very different standard and for a very different purpose than most Highland Bagpipers are looking for! Happy Piping!
I hope the "surgical instruments" they make are up to a higher standard than the bagpipes they make. Don't buy a Pakastani made bagpipe unless its for a wall decoration.
I like when the reporter asks "Pakistan is one of the best exporters of bagpipes?" The man hesitates for a few seconds and then says "yes". Its like he knows they are rubbish yet he doesnt want to deny the business on camera!
Those pipes don't really sound Scottish, they sound Pakistani (where they were made), that wouldn't be a problem if it weren't for the fact that they're acting like they're the same as Highland Bagpipes, they only look the same, but definitely don't sound like it, if they were just honest about the differing sound, they'd sell more, maybe improve the integrity of their product too
The problem with these pipes, aside from the quality of wood, is how they are made. Bagpipes made by hand may have a certain appeal of tradition to them, however, the accuracy of using both hand work as well as computer base measuring systems is what is going to produce a better product.
“Here’s what may surprise you, This isn’t Scotland “ Nope, it’s not in the least surprising. And NOOOO, there’re nowhere nearly as good as the worst bagpipes from Scotland!
I couldn‘t even hear his drones. But „good bagpipe“. How on earth did this dude qualify for this position of „testing the bagpipes in their functioning and sound“?
Roosebeck is the prominent Pakistani instruments online but everyone says they are not as good. But if you got a little spare bucks and want to experiment they are cheap
"They make pipes of the same quality as Scotland" Absurd-First I can look at those "workshops" and tell that simply is impossible. The materials are substandard-yes they may "export many more Bagpipes than any other country"..Why? Because Scotland, followed by Canada and US, are the only other makers of pipes in any significant quantity. And Pipes from the UK, US., and Canada are generally quality instruments no matter the brand, that cost 6-10 times what Pakistani "pipes" cost. The reason Pakistan sells more pipes is simple: Americans with their fascination with their "Scottish ancestry" love the novelty of the pipes They want desperately to express that through being a Piper-something that less than 5% of those who start to learn to play will actually succeed at. They go to Amazon like they do for everything, and buy the cheapest set of bagpipes they can afford for 100-250 bucks.-They have no clue that they need to start with a practice chanter before even considering pipes, and they need to learn the basics on that for a full year before their INSTRUCTOR tells them they need pipes. But instead, they think they are somehow the exception and will "self teach" themselves how to play using CZcams vids. They dont bother with a instructor, how hard can it be right, after all they played recorder in middle school and were in high school band- they got this . They generally quit in frustration within a cple weeks in most cases, when they realize they wont be playing beautiful tunes on their 150.oo set of Pakistani "pipes" within a cple weeks after watching a vid or two. They see the work and dedication it will take to learn to play the most difficult instrument in the world as well as the cost involved. Those who are determined and serious, and actually contact a pipe band who has a instructor, if they are serious, and can afford piping, they buy a chanter and take lessons for many months then buy a good QUALITY set of pipes for anywhere from 900.00 to 5,000.00 from a reputable maker In Scotland, Canada or the US . But yes, Amazon sells thousands of these sets-as much as experienced pipers on social media like Facebook try to warn them not to do-they are advised to get instructors and a chanter, they dont even need pipes for quite some time. But the unaware will order these useless junk instruments -have them bought as gifts at Christmas , birthdays ect. Dont buy these. I respect the entrepreneurial spirit to make money but lying to people, telling them their product "is as good as Scottish made pipes" is laughable. A simple look at those those "Workshops " should be a clue.- Anyone can can hear the pipes they were playing are horribly tuned. The wood needed to make quality pipes has to be high quality and aged for years in climate controlled conditions before its used- which I can tell you there isn't happening. I hate to speak so poorly of their efforts but its misleading and dishonest and patently offensive to real pipe makers for them to sit there on CNN no less-who did a damn crappy job of honesty in vetting in this story. They should stick to making cases, and toy sets to be sold on the Royal Mile and stop taking advantage of People who dont know that their products are not going to be able to be played seriously. I cant beleive this nonsense made it past the editors at CNN. SMH
If you buy these for a beginner, they will drop the bagpipes and never want to try to play them again. Buy Scottish. There should be a bagpipe trade embargo levelled against Pakistan. They are worse than rubbish. It's a mockery of the instrument.
Well, said my friend! I to fell victim to these cheap “paki pipes“ and you can only imagine my disappointment and embarrassment. It wasn’t until about two years later when I met a real bagpiper who sold me a set of UK made good quality bagpipes. The end result was like stepping out of 💩 and into sunshine! Not only did they look and sound much better they were a lot easier to play.
If you bought a set and havent been on the chanter for a few months with a instructor no pipes are going to sound good. If you have been on the chanter with a instructor he/she will instruct you NOT to buy these and youll have learned not to buy Pakistani piping products by the time your ready for pipes so cancel the order now.
Made in Sialkot - not recommended. If they are any good, why are they not labelled "Made in Sialkot Pakistan" when exported to the West ? They are made of Sheesham wood, a poor relation of Rosewood. The workmanship is poor and they do not sound anything like the real thing.
If everything 'played well' as you wrote, it would be OK... But try to play their uilleann pipes and you'll see (or hear) that it's really just a cheap piece of wooden something...
Pakastani bagpipes are cheap replicas of good bagpipes. Scotish pipe standards my ass. Pakastani bagpipes are about has good as a fire place mantle piece.
Not Scottish pipes they are pakastani pipes don't sound the same at all good to learn on for a starter but as you progress to advanced get a proper Scottish set of pipes
These would make a beginner think twice about continuing to learn. They’re damn near impossible to play or tune. A basic set from a reputable maker is the ONLY way to go for a beginner
I don't even need to run the clip and hear the audio, I just saw how low he sits the drones on the tuning pins to know this is going to be BAD. Really, really BAD
Those bagpipes are not bad for the price, sounds (terrible and out of tune), but still a instument that inflates and sounds. People should know that something like that will not be useable as a practical instrument to learn, if they want to mess for a while and have a first contact with something that looks so alien to many I guess is Ok. Real bagpipes cost 10 to 50 times more
The Pakistani producers are truly quite impressive(in sheer volume and based on such loose copying of Scottish pipes), but I feel that if they were to simply invest in a more consistent method of manufacturing as well as a higher standard of wood, they may find that the rumors(based in many truths) about their pipes will disappear with time.
They are Scottish-they are Irish they are Iraqi. Bagpipes come from all over the world. They were likely brought to the UK by Invading Romans. MANY nearly every culture has a form of bagpipes. BUT HERE we ARE talking about a specific kind of Bagpipes the Great Highland Bagpipe which IS Scottish. Thats the truth and I'm afraid you dont have a monopoly on it.
During colonisation, they discovered pipes and introduced to Scotland regiments. Just like father Christmas was first made by Coka Cola. Now we think its always been. czcams.com/video/U-8WWWLUqNQ/video.html
They do, so does kashmir me have bagpipes in our culture too. My parents had pagpipes playing at their village and so did my grandparents. I will say this though these guys aren't making Scottish standard pipes
Bagpipes are found all across Europe, in Turkey and the Levant and as far as I know over there also....BUT....they are different. The Great Highland Pipes are from Scotland and they are the bagpipe standard for epic! Im trying to find some Medieval 6 finger pipes. Roose beck just mass produces cheap stuff
Not gonna lie these are not good at all, some companies do make better quality ones though just not these ones. But you have to commend them for all the cool american stuff like vintage balls and civil war uniforms. The bag pipes not so much dont know why this got so much hate but I get where people are coming from.
They used to make a set of playable pipes but today they are only marginally better than other Pakistan made pipes. Still absolute junk by the piping community standards.
Sialkot a famous city of Pakistan is wonder city. it always make good stuff among the other developing countries like india and Bangladeshi , but some stupid people just cant accept the reality. respect from India to the artist of making such nice spices!
i bet their is more people in pakistan playing scottish pipes than in scotland, so who is promoting scottish culture in pakistan, the pakistanis, weddings, the armies, in the city alone their is 70 bands who play the pipes. why do people need facts to shut them up.
That's irrelevant the issue is the claim that they make pipes and sell them of the same quality as Scottish makers and its patently false. Ive heard those bands and they are not near the quality of Scottish /US/Canada bands. Shut them up? you arent shutting anyone up-people are entitled to their opinions -this whole thing has nothing to do with Pakistani culture or people and everything with the absurd story and narrative being pushed here that the junk we saw being turned out in the Shops is the equivalent of of Scottish made pipes. There are Americans who run Pakistani food restaurants here in the US that claim their food is authentic but we all know that is BS also dont we.
Jealous? LMAO of what ? Why would they be jealous of makers of 200 dollar junk pipes when they make 3K pipes which are the highest quality in the industry? If your making these pipes you should be proud that you are working and EARNING your money unlike many Pakistani and Asian criminal orgs running phone scams. This has nothing to do with your personal self worth but everything to do with claiming someone makes a instrument of high quality and selling it to someone who believes it, unaware ,that its BS-thats NOTHING to be proud of.
I'm a medieval pipe builder and I also play the GHB too. I got a Hendersons set. You have to put a lot of work to let those Pakistans play well. Some of them rebuild to a medieval type of pipes. First making the drones smooth on the inside. Use the stocks and blowstick (first put another and better valve in it). Make a good chanter and make a new slung.....
Fire wood. Complete garbage
The Pipes he was playing didn’t sound right at all haha
Pakistani bagpipes are good for two things:
1. Displaying over a fireplace
2. Burning in a fireplace*
*order does not necessarily reflect level of appropriateness
& cheap firewood!
not good for firewood either does,not sound right
"But are Pakistani bagpipes as good as the Scottish ones?"
No.
Not even bagpipes. Makes me so sad that they think they make scottish standard bagpipes.
No you do NOT make the scottish bagpipes quality equivalent!
Anyone who knows about bagpipes can see the guy doesn't have the drones adjusted properly.
The lacquer on them burns pretty warm. Given Scotland's wet climate, I'm not surprised Pakipipes are popular. I bet you get a lot of bulk orders.
The fact that they advertise them as "Scottish' bagpipes, is a crime . Even the pipe bands from Asia won't buy that rubbish !
Last rant: I understand that Pakistani musicians use a different method of musical tuning(being fond a quarter step intervals, whereas Western musicians prefer half and whole step intervals) but these parts are being marketed as Western Scottish Style Bagpipes and therefore are quite misleading. This I feel is the biggest issues with the large influx of Pakistani instruments hitting the Western Market. If the Pakistani manufacturers ever want to make a serious positive impact in the Western Piping Community, they should consider meeting the same consistent standards of Scottish Pipes. UNTIL THIS IS DONES, buyers beware, these instruments are made to a very different standard and for a very different purpose than most Highland Bagpipers are looking for! Happy Piping!
I hope the "surgical instruments" they make are up to a higher standard than the bagpipes they make. Don't buy a Pakastani made bagpipe unless its for a wall decoration.
1:37 my ears bleed a little ... omfg ....
hahahah
Oh...My first pipes from ebay that I finally put in the fire place was from that factory.
if u r chinese u r used to using shit stuffs
+Doctorr Zeus Fortunately I'm Korean. Not used to using rubbish.
정원준 hahaha,,,i was just kidding,,,north or south?
+Doctorr Zeus North Koreans don't even have internet... poor people :(
i know that.....lol
I like when the reporter asks "Pakistan is one of the best exporters of bagpipes?" The man hesitates for a few seconds and then says "yes". Its like he knows they are rubbish yet he doesnt want to deny the business on camera!
It's not rubbish though, it's a fact 🤷♂️
@@anneeq008 best exporter by volume, but by no means best in terms of sound
Bagpipes?? more like badpipes
and the dude sho strummed the harp, i could tell that the harp was out of tune.
Fire up them drones and we’ll see if they’re “good pipes”
DO NOT BUY ONE that's all I have to say
Im a piper, and i disagree with everything that they say is "good" about their bagpipes. it sounds terrible.
They don't sound anything like real Scottish Highland Bagpipes. They are making them out of rosewood painted black. Not real blackwood.
Those pipes don't really sound Scottish, they sound Pakistani (where they were made), that wouldn't be a problem if it weren't for the fact that they're acting like they're the same as Highland Bagpipes, they only look the same, but definitely don't sound like it, if they were just honest about the differing sound, they'd sell more, maybe improve the integrity of their product too
They can't even make their own instruments to a high quality standard. It's all shonky trash.
They are not the top exporters. The pipes they make are no where close to the Scottish pipes. The pipes that they make are shit
The problem with these pipes, aside from the quality of wood, is how they are made. Bagpipes made by hand may have a certain appeal of tradition to them, however, the accuracy of using both hand work as well as computer base measuring systems is what is going to produce a better product.
these bits of wood should be burnt.,how many young budding pipers have wasted their cash on these ornements thats all they are good for.
true, they export more bagpipes than any other country, but those who actually play the Highland pipes know that they are really shitty "instruments."
“Here’s what may surprise you, This isn’t Scotland “
Nope, it’s not in the least surprising. And NOOOO, there’re nowhere nearly as good as the worst bagpipes from Scotland!
I couldn‘t even hear his drones. But „good bagpipe“. How on earth did this dude qualify for this position of „testing the bagpipes in their functioning and sound“?
"Yes we do make them scottish standard" aye alright the only things these pipes are good for is firewood
Roosebeck is the prominent Pakistani instruments online but everyone says they are not as good. But if you got a little spare bucks and want to experiment they are cheap
"They make pipes of the same quality as Scotland" Absurd-First I can look at those "workshops" and tell that simply is impossible. The materials are substandard-yes they may "export many more Bagpipes than any other country"..Why? Because Scotland, followed by Canada and US, are the only other makers of pipes in any significant quantity. And Pipes from the UK, US., and Canada are generally quality instruments no matter the brand, that cost 6-10 times what Pakistani "pipes" cost. The reason Pakistan sells more pipes is simple: Americans with their fascination with their "Scottish ancestry" love the novelty of the pipes They want desperately to express that through being a Piper-something that less than 5% of those who start to learn to play will actually succeed at. They go to Amazon like they do for everything, and buy the cheapest set of bagpipes they can afford for 100-250 bucks.-They have no clue that they need to start with a practice chanter before even considering pipes, and they need to learn the basics on that for a full year before their INSTRUCTOR tells them they need pipes. But instead, they think they are somehow the exception and will "self teach" themselves how to play using CZcams vids. They dont bother with a instructor, how hard can it be right, after all they played recorder in middle school and were in high school band- they got this . They generally quit in frustration within a cple weeks in most cases, when they realize they wont be playing beautiful tunes on their 150.oo set of Pakistani "pipes" within a cple weeks after watching a vid or two. They see the work and dedication it will take to learn to play the most difficult instrument in the world as well as the cost involved. Those who are determined and serious, and actually contact a pipe band who has a instructor, if they are serious, and can afford piping, they buy a chanter and take lessons for many months then buy a good QUALITY set of pipes for anywhere from 900.00 to 5,000.00 from a reputable maker In Scotland, Canada or the US . But yes, Amazon sells thousands of these sets-as much as experienced pipers on social media like Facebook try to warn them not to do-they are advised to get instructors and a chanter, they dont even need pipes for quite some time. But the unaware will order these useless junk instruments -have them bought as gifts at Christmas , birthdays ect. Dont buy these. I respect the entrepreneurial spirit to make money but lying to people, telling them their product "is as good as Scottish made pipes" is laughable. A simple look at those those "Workshops " should be a clue.- Anyone can can hear the pipes they were playing are horribly tuned. The wood needed to make quality pipes has to be high quality and aged for years in climate controlled conditions before its used- which I can tell you there isn't happening. I hate to speak so poorly of their efforts but its misleading and dishonest and patently offensive to real pipe makers for them to sit there on CNN no less-who did a damn crappy job of honesty in vetting in this story. They should stick to making cases, and toy sets to be sold on the Royal Mile and stop taking advantage of People who dont know that their products are not going to be able to be played seriously. I cant beleive this nonsense made it past the editors at CNN. SMH
If you buy these for a beginner, they will drop the bagpipes and never want to try to play them again. Buy Scottish.
There should be a bagpipe trade embargo levelled against Pakistan. They are worse than rubbish. It's a mockery of the instrument.
Well, said my friend! I to fell victim to these cheap “paki pipes“ and you can only imagine my disappointment and embarrassment. It wasn’t until about two years later when I met a real bagpiper who sold me a set of UK made good quality bagpipes. The end result was like stepping out of 💩 and into sunshine! Not only did they look and sound much better they were a lot easier to play.
I did buy a pair. If they dont sound good, then I want me money back and I'm buying african blackwood pipes
If you bought a set and havent been on the chanter for a few months with a instructor no pipes are going to sound good. If you have been on the chanter with a instructor he/she will instruct you NOT to buy these and youll have learned not to buy Pakistani piping products by the time your ready for pipes so cancel the order now.
it's such a good looking set any of those but don't expect them to even sound!
Made in Sialkot - not recommended. If they are any good, why are they not labelled "Made in Sialkot Pakistan" when exported to the West ? They are made of Sheesham wood, a poor relation of Rosewood. The workmanship is poor and they do not sound anything like the real thing.
Sadly, no stereotypes about Pakistani bagpipes are being destroyed here....
lol. How would they? lol. They just aren't made good. Poor craftsmanship and poor material.
"If they don't know, they should know it." 🗿
If everything 'played well' as you wrote, it would be OK... But try to play their uilleann pipes and you'll see (or hear) that it's really just a cheap piece of wooden something...
agreed, quality over quality any day, pakistan pipes are expensive fire wood at best
Pakastani bagpipes are cheap replicas of good bagpipes. Scotish pipe standards my ass. Pakastani bagpipes are about has good as a fire place mantle piece.
Those are SHIT pipes that sound like hell, and dumb tourist fall for it, and blow the £100 in a tourist shop. God those pipes sounded atrocious......
Those pipes aren't droning at all.
Number 1 maker for new players to buy off amazon. Then they have to buy real bagpipes later.
Buyer beware, these pipes don't really work.
LMFAO!! when the chickens come home to roost.
Not Scottish pipes they are pakastani pipes don't sound the same at all good to learn on for a starter but as you progress to advanced get a proper Scottish set of pipes
They don't even work as a beginner set. You need to learn fundamentals on quality set-if you cant afford one stay on the chanter til you can.
These would make a beginner think twice about continuing to learn. They’re damn near impossible to play or tune. A basic set from a reputable maker is the ONLY way to go for a beginner
I burned down a pakistani bagpipe one week ago and it was beautiful😍😂🔥
Clemens Wendt just like Jimi Hendrix burned his guitar and said it was beautiful
Where is this man's shop i am from Pakistan
LIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't even need to run the clip and hear the audio, I just saw how low he sits the drones on the tuning pins to know this is going to be BAD.
Really, really BAD
Those bagpipes are not bad for the price, sounds (terrible and out of tune), but still a instument that inflates and sounds. People should know that something like that will not be useable as a practical instrument to learn, if they want to mess for a while and have a first contact with something that looks so alien to many I guess is Ok. Real bagpipes cost 10 to 50 times more
amazing, every word of what just said.....was wrong.
The Pakistani producers are truly quite impressive(in sheer volume and based on such loose copying of Scottish pipes), but I feel that if they were to simply invest in a more consistent method of manufacturing as well as a higher standard of wood, they may find that the rumors(based in many truths) about their pipes will disappear with time.
Especially if 1st cousin marriage went down. They might flourish.
JUNK,JUNK !! Don't waste your money !!
Anyone who buys these things deserve all negative comments that will come their way? As the saying goes you get what you pay for?
Well, you cannot expect premium product at this price range. looks alright to me.
That's a fair statement
Bagpipes are not Scottish or Irish they ate from Iraq!! Tell the truth pls
They are Scottish-they are Irish they are Iraqi. Bagpipes come from all over the world. They were likely brought to the UK by Invading Romans. MANY nearly every culture has a form of bagpipes. BUT HERE we ARE talking about a specific kind of Bagpipes the Great Highland Bagpipe which IS Scottish. Thats the truth and I'm afraid you dont have a monopoly on it.
Bagpipe were not native to Scotland but they were native to pakistan
Well the great highland pipes that they’re making in this video are native to Scotland.
During colonisation, they discovered pipes and introduced to Scotland regiments. Just like father Christmas was first made by Coka Cola. Now we think its always been.
czcams.com/video/U-8WWWLUqNQ/video.html
Why do the Pakistani export bagpipes although they haven't the knowledge about them?
They do, so does kashmir me have bagpipes in our culture too. My parents had pagpipes playing at their village and so did my grandparents. I will say this though these guys aren't making Scottish standard pipes
Bagpipes are found all across Europe, in Turkey and the Levant and as far as I know over there also....BUT....they are different. The Great Highland Pipes are from Scotland and they are the bagpipe standard for epic! Im trying to find some Medieval 6 finger pipes. Roose beck just mass produces cheap stuff
It’s because the British had an influence in that area many years ago. These are just not real instruments. These are an obvious scam
Not gonna lie these are not good at all, some companies do make better quality ones though just not these ones. But you have to commend them for all the cool american stuff like vintage balls and civil war uniforms. The bag pipes not so much dont know why this got so much hate but I get where people are coming from.
Ew
What's up with all the hate? Scotland should be proud a part of their culture is followed and respected in a country thousands of miles away.
They sound like a me shit. Enough said
Sounds like Scottish bagpipes to me! I don't know why they're so but-hurt, it's just a noisy instrument full of air.
WAKEUP!! You have no idea what your talking about you uncultured piece of shit
@@tylerduncan9493 no he's right. Bagpipes sound like someone tunefully murdering a bag of cats
Plus, it was Scottish people themselves who brought these here.
Most pakistani bagpipes have really bad quality but there is one certain company which is better than everyone else which is Hakam Din & Sons
They used to make a set of playable pipes but today they are only marginally better than other Pakistan made pipes. Still absolute junk by the piping community standards.
These pipes sound awful! 😅
You might get s log grade
Pakistani bagpipes are terrible, do not, I repeat do not buy them. Utter wast of money
WTF!!
Hhahahahahah so crazy ..
Lol
Sialkot a famous city of Pakistan is wonder city. it always make good stuff among the other developing countries like india and Bangladeshi , but some stupid people just cant accept the reality.
respect from India to the artist of making such nice spices!
i bet their is more people in pakistan playing scottish pipes than in scotland, so who is promoting scottish culture in pakistan, the pakistanis, weddings, the armies, in the city alone their is 70 bands who play the pipes. why do people need facts to shut them up.
That's irrelevant the issue is the claim that they make pipes and sell them of the same quality as Scottish makers and its patently false. Ive heard those bands and they are not near the quality of Scottish /US/Canada bands. Shut them up? you arent shutting anyone up-people are entitled to their opinions -this whole thing has nothing to do with Pakistani culture or people and everything with the absurd story and narrative being pushed here that the junk we saw being turned out in the Shops is the equivalent of of Scottish made pipes. There are Americans who run Pakistani food restaurants here in the US that claim their food is authentic but we all know that is BS also dont we.
i see how jealous people are, despite showing foreign media. i am happy and feel proud.
Zahid Karim Total rubbish. Period.
top export of cheap shite bagpipes with no drones
what the fuck is there to be jealous of?
Jealous? LMAO of what ? Why would they be jealous of makers of 200 dollar junk pipes when they make 3K pipes which are the highest quality in the industry? If your making these pipes you should be proud that you are working and EARNING your money unlike many Pakistani and Asian criminal orgs running phone scams. This has nothing to do with your personal self worth but everything to do with claiming someone makes a instrument of high quality and selling it to someone who believes it, unaware ,that its BS-thats NOTHING to be proud of.
I'm a medieval pipe builder and I also play the GHB too. I got a Hendersons set. You have to put a lot of work to let those Pakistans play well. Some of them rebuild to a medieval type of pipes. First making the drones smooth on the inside. Use the stocks and blowstick (first put another and better valve in it). Make a good chanter and make a new slung.....
Long Live Pakistan