WHAT HAPPENED TO THE MINNESOTA NORTH STARS? // RELOCATED: A MINNESOTA NORTH STARS DOCUMENTARY
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- In this All Sports History video we'll look back at what happened to the Minnesota North Stars before they moved to Dallas in 1993.
Here's what this "Minnesota North Stars History" video covers:
For 26 years Minnesota (widely known as one of the best places for hockey) was home to a NHL team, the North Stars. So what exactly led to the team leaving after so many seasons? In today’s video we’ll take a look back at how the team’s struggles to stay relevant, and an owner’s mismanagement and personal scandals ultimately doomed the franchise’s chances of survival in Minnesota.
With expansion to the NHL in 1967, and just after the Metropolitan Center (which would become the Minnesota North Stars Arena for their entire existence), the team began their first ever season in franchise history. After overcoming a tragedy in 1968, when star player Bill Masterton died after falling to the ice hard, the team found itself in playoff contention during its first season. Some early Minnesota North Stars highlights included beating the Los Angeles Kings, and getting one game away from the Stanley Cup final before losing to the St. Louis Blues in 1968. The team would soon face stiff competition not just in the NHL, but outside the league as well. in 1972, the World Hockey Association formed in the hopes of competing with the NHL, and one of the original teams was the Minnesota Fighting Saints. It didn't help that during this time the North Stars had begun to struggle, failing to reach the playoffs three years in a row. Even with the Fighting Saints outdrawing the North Stars on occasion, the Fighting Saints folded in 1976 due to financial problems with the team. Things continued to get worse for the North Stars, who were routinely drawing fewer and fewer crowds. The Cleveland Barons were also struggling pretty badly, and the owners George and Gordon Gund pitched a radical idea to the NHL. Why not merge the North Stars and Barons together? Well that's exactly what they did, and in 1979 the two teams officially merged with the North Stars remaining while the Barons ceased operations.
By the early 1980's the North Stars fortunes began to change. In 1981, the infamous Minnesota North Stars vs Boston Bruins Brawl happened which helped spark the team onto an incredible run at the Stanley Cup. The brawl produced the Minnesota North Stars full game record of 211 penalty minutes. The team unexpectedly defeated the Bruins, Sabres, and the Flames to reach the finals for the first time in team history. Unfortunately, they ran into to the red hot New York Islanders who had just won the cup the previous year. The Islanders proved to be too much for the North Stars, who were defeated in five games. After realignment in 1982, the North Stars would languish season after season until in absolutely dreadful 1987 season where they only won 19 games. The only true bright spot during this period was the drafting of Minnesota North Stars Mike Modano, who would go on to have a hall of fame career. The Gund Brothers ended up selling the team in 1990, and Norman Green took over as the new owner. During this time, the team embarked on yet another improbable run throughout the Minnesota North Stars 1991 playoffs. The Stars reached the finals once again, only to be defeated by the Penguins in 6 games. It was long after this that Norm Green decided to move the team due to a number issues surrounding the franchise. The Minnesota North Stars last game took place on April 13, 1993. It would be another 7 years before Minnesota regained an NHL team, when the Wild first played in 2000. The Wild have on occasion played tribute to the North Stars, like in 2020 when they wore reverse retro sweaters inspired by the Minnesota North Stars jersey 1978.
So what did you guys think of the Minnesota North Stars move to Dallas? What do you most remember about the North Star’s time in Minnesota? Let me know in the comments below!
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WHAT HAPPENED TO THE MINNESOTA NORTH STARS? // RELOCATED: A MINNESOTA NORTH STARS DOCUMENTARY - Sport
Hey Sports Historians! What did you think about Norman Green moving the North Stars to Dallas? And what do you remember most about the North Stars time in Minnesota? Let me know in the comments below!
My Grandparents and my father had season tickets for the Northstars first 19 seasons. They were there the night of Masterton's hit that turned fatal, they were there when Boucha suffered his eye injury when attacked by a goon from the Bruins. I like to joke that the Northstars gift to my family when I was born was their first trip to the finals a couple months later.
A few thoughts. 1. Lou Nanne was a terrible GM. If it hadn't been for the Cleveland merger he wouldn't have had the extra talent to trade around with. If head coach Glen Somner could have stayed sober, Nanne wouldn't have hired horrible coaches after Somner had to step down for good. Case in point, Bill Mahoney; who took Bobby Smith off the power play, who the previous season set a franchise record 115 point season.
Also the fan support was not very good. My grandfather was going to games in the late 70s and the attendance was awful (at one point averaging less than 3,000). Everyone blames Norm Green, but before the Gunds sold the Stars, the Star Tribune & Channel 5 News did a poll if people would care if the Gunds moved the Northstars? 60% said they didn't care if the team moved. While attendance went up with the run to the finals in 91, the attendance dropped at the start of the 92-93 season because the Northstars, in an effort to increase season ticket sales during the 90-91 season, did a buy 2-get 1 extra seat. When the promo ended and the next season fans were expected to pay for all the tickets now, many either dropped all their tickets entirely or dropped the free extra seat.
Want further proof of the poor fan support of the Twin Cities? The Timber Wolves were almost moved to New Orleans, & later the Twins were almost contracted because they were drawing less fans than the St. Paul Saints independent baseball team.
Also the Metropolitan Sports Commission, who fleeced ownership of the Met Center from the founding owners who built it, never helped the Northstars with the Met. Gunds paid their own renovation to the Met, nor helped Green renovate the Met. Which begs to ask why would a man spend $20 million dollars to renovate the Met Center only to be accused of wanting to move the team from day 1? The Metropolitan Sports Commission wanted the Stars in the Target Center but would not help them at all. Later they would have to help the struggling Timber Wolves, who almost moved after only 5 years there. Also it was more than just Coke or Pepsi sponsorship that kept the Stars out of the Target Center. It was all sponsorship. The Wolves told the Stars that the Stars could only negotiate with the Wolves sponsors. Kinda hard to negotiate when the sponsor companies know that there is no competing sponsors.
I was at that neutral site game at the Target Center for the Stars against Ottawa. My Dad and my Grandfather agreed that the Target Center was worse for viewing hockey than the Met.
FYI it was Minneapolis lawyer Brian Burke who bought the Winnipeg Jets in an effort to get NHL hockey back to the Cities. But the Target Center and the Sports Commission wouldn't help Burke & Phoniex gave a better offer, just like San Jose did for the Gund Brothers.
Thankfully for the Wild and their fans, the Metropolitan Sports Commission have no say in the Xcel Center or the Wild.
Norm Green was a terrible owner who not only mismanaged the team but also had a lot of gambling debts the video should have also mentioned that but as far as the teams presence go I still miss them to this day.
Norm Green is a Saint!
Just money 🤑💰 like always
@@karlcooper7016 Would you put him on the list of bad 😔 owners of sport teams like Hugh Culverhouse from NFL Tampa Bay Bucs?
There wasn't a hard core hockey fan in the entire world no matter what team you supported that weren't sad when The North Stars moved to Dallas.. Even though i lived in Chicago I felt bloody betrayed by the NHL when the North Stars left.
I bet U Were Mad About The Minnesota North Stars Leaving In The Early 90’s!
@@vinceniederman I was here, let's just say it wasn't the best of times believe or not 2023 will be the 30 th anniversary of the move
The Hawks and Stars had an epic rivalry!
The state of Minnesota loves hockey and is more Canadian than Canada itself.
it was all NHL collusion.
put an up and coming team in Dallas where it would be easier to build a fan base that way and stick an expansion team in Minnesota where a hockey fan base already exists.
Norm Green will always suck. When he bought the North Stars he claimed, "Only an idiot can lose money with hockey in Minnesota." He proved himself correct.
He is living in Dallas and has only done one interview about the move since and he sold the team in 1996
The Stars will never shine in Texas!
@@binnins1982 You need to follow a few thousand more CZcams channels comrade, that will make you definitely look like a real person
Anyway, glad Minnesota got a replacement team, it certainly wasn’t their fault the North Stars left town.
Especially when they opened the MOA next door.
@@adampierce9861 was there for that grand opening.
Spent a lot of time in that area.
My best friends family also owned one of the fancy restaurants that the players use to visit after games a few blocks from the arena
I'm so glad that Minnesota and Winnipeg eventually got their NHL hockey back!
Me too!
@@AllSportsHistory Quebec City could get the Nordiques back but it lacks the corporate commitment to make it happen. The Videotron Centre is a modern 19,000 seat arena hosting junior hockey just sitting there waiting. Such a shame.
@@AllSportsHistory It's Good The Minnesota Has The Wild Now Which is Good!
But it took 7 long years to get a team back
@@michaelleroy9281 Yup So Minnesota Hockey Fans Didn’t Have To Wait That Long!
I was in almost all of the old arena's and when I saw a game at the Met Center decades ago I simply couldn't believe what an incredible arena it was - I moved around and every seat in the place was great and the fans and atmosphere was beyond incredible.. Those home white jerseys were also magnificent - seriously among my top 3 favorite of all time..
It was a very sad day in The NHL when Minnesota closed there doors. The Met center did see some historic hockey that now is just a memory.
@@davidthompson62 The Met Center might have been a dump inside but it sure looked classy outside !!
Watched the North Stars growing up in the early 70's continuing through the 1993 season. !981 finals Islanders in 5 games.
Unfortunately those Islanders were winning their 2 nd Stanley Cup out of 4 straight
I always had so much respect for Mike Modano. He would have been an all time great addition to any team in the league.
No one was more happier than when he became a Red Wing than I! Just wish it was earlier
He was a real solid player and great goal scorer.
@@davidthompson62 His skating was first class too. But he turned into “Joe defense” Overnight at the will of Hitchcock and still was a point per game. You always gotta know a play years coach, in dead puck Era, when he needed to score, him and Brett Hull provided. Could you imagine Modano who’s. Always had a defense first coach even in Mahoney & Bob Gainey in Minnesota, . Play for a Glenn Sather?.
@@davidthompson62 PS, living 10 minutes from Reynolds Coliseum @NC State, your name raised my eye brows. Google your mane and you’ll see the second greatest college basketball player behind Pete Maravich!! He then went to ABA a and DrJ and David put on nightly flying dunk exhibitions!! Basketball 🏀
@@chrisphillips348 He played for the Denver Nuggets didn’t he? Unfortunately, there are 3 others with the same name just in the city I live!
As a lifelong Hawk fan I really miss the North Stars, it really was a must watch
And then BLM burned everything down
As a newer hockey fan and Wild fan, this was an excellent documentary to bring me up to speed on the lost beloved team. Thank you!
You’re welcome, glad you liked it!
@@AllSportsHistory Can you do other defunct teams or other teams in different cities? How about the Rochester/ Syracuse Royals better known as Sacramento Kings?
@@AllSportsHistory How about doing a story on the Cleveland Barons and Oakland Seals.
Norm Green was the biggest stab in the back Minnesota ever endured. And then he sold the team two years after he moved them to Dallas! What I remember the most is being at the old Met Centre the night Henry Boucher got ambushed by Dave Forbes against the Bruins. I thought Boucher had lost his eye with all the blood on the ice.
I lived in Minnesota at this time and was devastated that the North Stars left. However, there is a lot of revisionist history by Minnesotans who seem to pin everything on Norm Green. The fact is despite them being a fairly competitive team with good players to root for, they did not draw fan support. The Twins Cities were too slow to recognize that in the new era of doing business that cities do in fact need to build arenas to keep their teams around. So much for the State of Hockey.
I mean, some of it wasn't his fault.
Honestly, it sounds like YOUR version is the revision. People only understand what they understand. if the newspapers & news slants things a certain way, and doesnt discuss the business side too much, the average fan will go by that. We cant be experts in everything! So, the fact that you shed light on the inner workings is the revision that maybe the media wasnt focusing on?
I lived in Minnesota and was at almost every Northstar game (80s/90s) and watched the very last game played in the Met Center. I was also there when they unveiled the name change and new jerseys.
I'm back in Texas (Waco) and glad they're here. Wasn't happy when they left because I stayed in Minnesota a couple more years. But things turned out well 😊. I still wear my satin Northstar jacket. I have most of the rookie cards of Mikey-Mo, Brian Bellows and so many legendary NS players.
Norm Green was " Waco" ( in Minnesota)
You would make a great Canadian.
There was no "name change" or "new jersey" the Wild are a completely different organization.
Have you forgiven Norm Green yet?
I don’t know why but the Minnesota North Stars works as a better team name to me rather than the Minnesota Wild. I was never around when they had the North Stars, but it’s very cool to see their legacy from their time in Minnesota. I love these historical videos about fallen franchises, keep up the good work!
Thanks, glad you liked the video!
I agree 100%.
The Wild name and logo never appealed to me. The North Stars is much better.
@@brianbachmeier34 The name is still owned by the team in Dallas, the newer team had no choice to come up with a new name
They couldn’t name them the North Stars because when they went to Dallas as part of the deal the team history went with it. I don’t like the name Wild. I always thought the new team should have been called the MINNESOTA NORSEMEN. Keeping in line with the Norwegian influence of the state and the Vikings.
Despite being happy to have the Stars in Dallas as my “home team” (From Louisiana), what happened to them in Minnesota was truly a mess.
When they opened Met Sports Center, they had the beer vendors carrying backpack with draft beer in them and a hose to fill cups. They didn't anticipate that climbing the stairs shook the beer and produced cup after cup of foam. My parents took our aunt and uncle to the first game. They were so impressed, they bought 4 season tickets every year until the franchise left.
Great video, as always! I always thought it was a crime that Minnesota lost the North Stars to Dallas. Or that they didn't at least get to reclaim the name when the NHL re-expanded there.
Seeing good ole Gump Worsley, I had a thought for a topic that might make an awesome All Sports History: The full-face fiberglass mask era of the NHL (What Happened to the Classic Goalie Mask?). So, like, 1959 to the mid-80s or so when the last goalie wore a full-face mask? You could cover the early days of Plante, the holdouts who went maskless, the wild mask art of the 70s, and how they eventually gave way to safer options like the helmet cage or the combo. Heck, you could even mention Jason Vorhees. :)
Anyway, I really like your stuff, and tell all my sports friends about your channel. Keep up the awesome work!
Thanks so much, and thank you for spreading the word! I really appreciate it :) At some point I'd like to do a deep dive into classic equipment, and the terrifying early prototypes of goalie masks in the 1920s/30s lol.
Can you do a whole profile on the WHA?
@@tonyarceneaux286 I'd watch that. Just actually saw a documentary on the WHA
Thank you for making this.
Sincerely,
Salty Minnesotan
You’re welcome 😄
As a Dallas Stars fan… living in the Dallas area I am absolutely glad they moved to Dallas.
Wow, they have internet in Dallas....... Who knew
Next game you go to come see me, I'm the usher in Section 310-311
@@travzimmerman1340 It with 56K modem, super fast dial up!
1999 was an amazing year. 😎👍
The North Stars are just classic
I really miss these old teams, Even if some of them I wasn't alive yet 😆
I was born in Dallas in 1994 so… I very much benefited from this debauchery and am a die hard life long Dallas Stars fan. I know it broke hearts but I’m so thankful it happened. I don’t know what my life would’ve been like if the Stars hadn’t come into town and made me a rink rat as a kid
Lifelong stars fan here. If it wasn’t for the stars moving to Dallas I don’t know if I would love hockey let alone watch it
Congratulations on probably the best hockey history content on youi-tube ! No annoying loud music , noise , great photos , and good narration . Good job .
Thank you, appreciate it!
Good stuff! Love learning about sports history.
Thanks glad you enjoyed it!
I really miss hockey games at the met center
My best memory was seeing the oilers come in with Wayne Gretzky and Curt Giles leveled him
The new franchise should’ve been called the St. Paul fighting saints, no matter how they had to acquire the name, much better than the Minnesota wild!
Agreed, I cannot get into these names that are singular overarching descriptions of natural phenomenon like most of the WNBA names. Maybe that's just being old since every single major sports team growing up had an s at the end of the team name. The Avalanche started that crap in the NHL and I pray Utah does not go with it in their first year.
Your Barry Gibb joke made me instantly subscribe. Keep up rhe good work.
Glad you liked my joke haha, thanks for the sub!
A friend of mine was a big North Stars fan and me being a Blues fan we had our own personal rivalry. He was devastated when they moved to Dallas and if you mention Norm Greens name to this day he gets pissed. He hates the Dallas Stars and has adopted the Wild as his team. We fans get emotional about our teams, When I see him I still call him Danny Grant ( his favo player) or Gump. We love reminiscing about the old days and games between our teams. He called me when the Blues finally won their Cup and offered congrats. I used to tune North Star games in on the radio . WCCO Minny/St Paul and the play by play man Al Shaver . Long live the Minny N Stars.
Glad Your Friend Became a Minnesota Wild Fan And At Least U Guys Have a Rivalry in The NHL!
In football, Houston Oilers fans pretty much feel that way about the Tennesee Titans and pitch a huge fit every time the Titans want to wear some throw-back luv ya blue and an oil derrick. What gets missed is the players who played for the old teams get forgotten about and sort of lose their identity, unlike teams who stay in the same place forever. Now, former Coyotes players won't even have a franchise to belong to anymore. I am empathetic to your friend though even though I am a big Dallas Stars fan.
A great video. I'd forgotten some of the business details with Baldwin etc. I remember listening to the Flyers streak ending game on the radio. The voice of the North Stars was Al Shaver. He was exciting to listen to. Thanks for the memories.
NYR Ranger fan for 40 yrs here. Out of all the relocations, folds, and expansion teams in the NHL, this feels like the worst move. Dallas would've gotten a team. It just feels strange when I see the Wild. It never feels right as an NHL opponent. Don't feel that with any other team.
In this case, as in some others, it was due to a rich, greedy a$$hole rip off artist like Norm Green. He 🎉 didn't appear to be too sound with the green $$$. $70 million in debt when he sold the Dallas Stars. Wow.
My favorite fact about the North Stars is the fact that the chirp made famous by the show Letterkenny "Give your balls a Tug you T**f**k*r" was a reference to the chirping from the bench of the Penguins at North Stars Forward Brian Bellows during that 1991 Stanley Cup finals.
Yer a fuckin superstar bellows
Really enjoy these kinds of sports docos. My first live NHL game was in 1990 between the Oilers and the North Stars. Loved those green iconic uniforms, Was sad to see them leave for Dallas but atleast it didnt take long for the Wild to come to Minny. The Whalers, Nords, and North Stars will always have a special place in my heart.
No love for the Winnipeg Jets?
@@joespitler3929 The current Winnipeg Jets team is indeed beloved and supported. Nobody loves the so-called "original" Jets that are known as the Arizona Coyotes, not even in Arizona. The only people at their games are not Coyotes fans, but fans of the opposition. It's been that way since 1996, unless the team makes the playoffs, then the "bandwagoners" show up. I should know, I live there and seen it firsthand.
Fact is we gave away the North Stars. We had no reason not to keep the team. There should have been a deal with Target Center, and we figured it out enough to build the X. The Stars never drew like the Wild do because of bad marketing. I hate Norm Green but the Wild have done a better job of being stable than the Stars ever did.
Well, if you were around at the time you would know Norm couldn't keep his d!ck in his pants and many female staffers filed suit in '92. Norm's wife was leaving. Norm settled out of court and took the team with him down to Dallas chasing after his wife.
Look it up!
The wild logo in green and yellow looks great, green trees and the yellow sun.
The Met center was pretty state of the art for its time.
Nice video, I like your editing style. Very clean :)))
Thanks, appreciate it!
Still awesome to see how many North Stars jerseys there are at wild games at the Xcel center.
Excellent job, creator; you have won another subscriber.
Thank you, appreciate it!!
Great video and episode about the Minnesota North Stars.
For future episodes, it crossed my mind a few days ago, I know how about, what happened to the St. Louis Rams and their return back to LA.
Thank you! Yeah those will definitely be on the future to do list.
Well done video, was and really still am a North Stars fan, mainly because Al MacAdam is a friend of the family. Saw the North Stars play the Habs in 1979 at the Montreal Forum, big, fast, hard hitting game! Cool to see footage of Gilles Meloche, Cesare Maniago and Gump Worsley...I remember when these guys were still playing. Very good.
Thanks, glad you liked it!
I was a huge Al MacAdam fan even back to his Cleveland Barons days.
One of the great logos in sports
If you’re not a MN native, who grew up playing hockey, are at least 40, and worshiped Mike Modano, you CANT know how much this video hurts.
Norm, i hope its REALLY hot wherever you are….
I miss the hawks and Northstar rivals. The Dallas stars were playing Vegas in 2023 semis. Didn't care who won. But I would've watched them if they were still in Minnesota.
That N with the star on top is such an iconic logo.
As a hockey fan I still long for the day when they come back to play in Minnesota again how about folding the Wild and making them into the new Northstars or bringing the Dallas Stars back to the St.Paul area.
Bring them back like yesterday even if you have to fold the wild or bring the original Northstars back from Dallas whatever it takes.
@@karlcooper7016 Good luck with that
@Karl Cooper The Dallas Stars are not moving to St Paul they have been successful there since 93 94
@karlcooper7016 This is not 1978 when the Cleveland Barons folded and reduced the number of teams from 18 to 17 no team is that much in bad shape in 2024
There was nothing fancy about the North Stars uniforms, but I always liked them and the team colors.
I think the N logo was one of the best of all time. I remember when they switched to the STARS wordmark in the 90s, and thinking they gave up a classic look (then again, there was a lot of that in the 90s lol).
The simplest logos and designs are almost always the best!
Often the best looking jerseys are the simplest in design like the original Northstars, the Montreal Canadians, Toronto Maple Leafs, etc.
Green , gold & white if I remember correctly.
@@tonyarceneaux286 They first added black on the home jerseys for 1981-82 on the road jerseys for 1988-89
editing a clip of spaceballs into your video is just never a bad idea lol
Love Mel Brooks and Spaceballs
excellent video!!!!
Thank you, glad you liked it!!
Nice work.
Thanks!
I miss this team.
It was a real shame that Minny left The NHL. They had established a rich history in Minnesota and had played in The Stanley Cup finals. But due to mismanagement by a sleazy owner, all of the history got moved to Dallas where it had no business being. The NHL owners should make a rule that if a club relocates they cannot take the name of the team with them. If this would have been in effect, the new team in Minnesota wouldn’t be “The Wild” but “The North Stars” as they should be. Do you think ex-Minnesota players like going to Dallas to be honored??
The Gund Brothers weren't anything to shout about either
The Wild have been around 23 years they would have to get the rights from Dallas to get the name Stars which is not going to happen
@@michaelleroy9281
The NHL owns the rights to the name and logo "North Stars". It's trademarked property of the NHL, not Dallas.
Great video I remember how fun it was both runs to the Stanley Cup Finals I really thought the North Stars were going to win against Pittsburgh but Mario stole the show I saw many games at the Met Center
Hi, can you post these videos as audio only on audea? would really appreciate just the audio! love your stuff btw, keep pushing out content!
Thanks!! I’ll take a look at it and see if it’s possible to do an audio only file :)
Love your content. I would love to see a video about the failure that was the Athletics move to Kansas City
Thanks! I’m not sure if I should wait until they move to Las Vegas? Seems almost certain at this point…
@@AllSportsHistory Sadly, it looks like it. Oakland seems not to care after the A's tried to go to San Jose and the A's ownership is clearly sabotaging their finances.
13:23 Made a cameo as himself in Disney's D1:The Mighty Ducks and even knew Coach Gordon Bombay from his Pee Wee Days. And even offered to secure for Bombay a chance at the Minor League club at the end of the film.
And the acting in that scene is top notch! Really hard to believe it didn't lead to more roles.
good video
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it!
As a Stars fan, I cherish the North Stars. They crawled so the Dallas Stars could walk / run. And the fact that people still hate the Stars for this reason makes me
Glad they’re in Dallas where they’re supported.
Thanks!
No problem, and thank you for the tip! I appreciate it :)
i so miss the northstars met centere and those great unis and the rivalries. they shouldve never moved.
Love the old Green and Gold jerseys, wish the Wild would switch to these colors for their regular jerseys. Also in 1982 the Stars ended up swapping picks sort of with Boston not Detroit, the Bruins still picked first with the agreement they would not take Bellows, instead they chose defenseman Gord Kluzak and allowing the Stars to take Brian Bellows.
Great video. How about the New Jersey Nets?
Thanks! Yeah the Nets would be interesting for sure!
"My face is my mask" No, I would not mess with that dude.
Definitely a badass.
One of the best quotes of all time
Do a video about the California golden seals next, they even folded
It’s on my to do list!
After they moved to Cleveland
They actually merged with Minnesota after they moved to Cleveland
Love to see a history of the Bolts, especially coverage of their former terrible owners, from the mysterious Japanese Yakuza, the bumpkin Art Williams, and the 'cowboys' Oren Koules an Len Barrie.
"The more we drank the more it made sense...I said 'hockey', they thought I said 'sake'! - Phil Esposito
Yep that would be a good one!
The North Stars white home jerseys to me were the best looking jerseys ever, and I'm a Habs fan.
They were pretty amazing!
The Blues almost left for Saskatoon give me a break about market size already I'm about ready to give Cleveland another chance.
The NHL and Dan Gilbert aught to give Cleveland another shot it would be better this time around I believe because they would be playing in downtown Cleveland and not in the suburbs like before.
That summer 1983 they didn't even participate in the NHL draft
@@karlcooper7016 Columbus should just move to Cleveland
I was paralyzed in a car accident back in 1991. Prrior to that I used to attend University of Minnesota summer hockey camps. After I became paralyzed I received a box to my hospital room in the shape of a hockey stick. Upon opening it was from the Minnesota North Stars and autographed by many of its players. It's 2023 and I still have that stick in my showcase. Couldn't have asked for a better pick me up in a dark time then that.
Wow! Incredible story, so glad you still have the signed stick!
Minnesota's loss was DFW's gain. Everyone blames the owner when he wants to move but it always seems to come down to wanting better facilities and stronger community support, which means more money in his pocket. As a baseball comparison, the Oakland A's will be finally leaving a place that simply cannot support major league sports, for the exact same reasons.
Outrageous! Great players. Great fans! Bumper. Caesar. Great hockey area! Like Arizona??? What ashame. Classic sweaters! Unlike Dallas. Only 4 out of the six are still here. Give Quebec their team back. Get rid of Arizona and the 5100 seat rink now. Its going to happen. Oh, and rid of Batman!
Could you do videos of other relocated NHL franchises?
The original Winnipeg Jets.
Atlanta Flames
Colorado Rockies.
For sure, all of these are on my future hockey videos list!
Speaking of disasters, the Colorado Rockies what a Mickey Mouse operation
@@michaelleroy9281 I learned that they were originally the Kansas City Scout before relocating to Colorado.
@All Sports History Since U Have Done The Other Former NHL Teams U Should Do One of The Original Winnipeg Jets Someday!
What happened was a fucking crime and anybody that’s been around for 50 fucking years like me knows the stars and no their tradition. It’s a goddamn shame they’re not allowed to be called the Minnesota north stars again.
As a Chicago native - I always thought the North Stars and Atlanta Flames had great looking jerseys and logos. Much better than Calgary Flames and Dallas Stars. Hockey doesn't even belong in Dallas.!!!
When they tried to move to the Bay Area in 1990 but didn't that was just a sign of things to come
Yup and If The North Stars Move to San Jose The Sharks Are Never Brought in As a Expansion Team!
@@vinceniederman Arguably the, the San Jose Sharks are the reborn Cleveland Barons (former Oakland Seals).
@@erik_griswold Yup and Shame Minnesota Had Problems at Times For Years!
Great need more on hockey Harford whalers my beloved Quebec Nordic s
best logo of the original expansion 6
North Stars is such a better name than Wild😢
6:36 Good one!
As a Minnesota sports fan this video hurts me
Amazing video can you do the Chicago cardinals NFL team if you can thanks
Thanks! Yeah it’s on my to do list :)
@@AllSportsHistory great
@@Whitesox_joey I Love These Sports Videos Big Time!
When they moved to Dallas - they would have been better off staying the North Stars with the same great looking uniforms. Then they could be known as the North American Stars. I just never liked the revamped Dallas Stars uniforms and logo. Same when the football Houston Oilers moved to Nashville. Should have stayed the Oilers. Because when the Dodgers moved from Brooklyn to LA they were smart and kept the name.
Maybe the Atlanta Flames or California Seals next?
Both of those would be great, I think the Seals is pretty interesting since they moved to Cleveland and then eventually merged with Minnesota.
@@AllSportsHistory if you Do that it is my understanding that Gund was the first owner of San Jose and there was some sort of draft picks compensation to acknowledge the Sharks were a continuation of the Seals/Barons franchise…. So technically, with that logic, the seals still exist…. In the sharks…
Please tell me if I am wrong here bc I’ve looked at this from different angles.
Can you do one on the Pittsburgh Condors and why they never made it to the NBA
That’s a good one and I’m planning to do a video on the ABA and why it failed as well.
They started in Pittsburgh as the Pipers moved to Minnesota for one season and moved back to Pittsburgh and later changed the name and later folded 4 years before the NBA ABA merger
Minnesota Wild.??? Come On - the North Stars uniforms and logo was so much better looking.
Caesar Maniago, your first goalie Vancouver canucks hero...
Norm Green had big-time gambling debts why wasn't this mentioned in the video?
He sold the team in 1996 that took care of that
He also couldn't keep his d!ck in his pants in MN
1. Golden Seals are the last team to be contracted.
Second, why the hell that the Target Center unable to suit an NHL Team?
Thats conseversial.
(Also Get the Coyotes out of Arizona NOW!)
The Coyotes should have been allowed to relocate back to Winnipeg since they lose millions every year, have meager fan support, and are just plain irrelevant. Seriously, this team is a joke, yet for some reason Gary Bettman has kept them in Arizona when it would make more sense to move the team to Quebec City who really wants the Nordiques to come back or go to Houston, which is a big market and would be better for them financially.
I hope the NHL do the right thing by getting rid of Arizona nightmare. I’ll be happy and hockey world will be rejoice if the Coyotes leaving Arizona.
Houston or Quebec City would be the best fit for the Coyotes.
The whole coca-cola/Pepsi thing with the Target center was pretty strange.
@@AllSportsHistory They should've done that in the first place. This is a joke
@@AllSportsHistory And yet, look what advertised on the boards and scoreboard in the Met Center in 1993 - COCA-COLA!!
@6:25 Where have we heard that before??
F-BOMB Norm Green!!! Signed “Original Minnesota North Star Fan” from Bloomington, MN.
That's really too bad for the North Stars not playing in the league no more 😕😞😑😔
'LA Stars' does have a nice ring to it
That was the name of a team in the old ABA
One of the dumbest moves they ever made was trading Bobby Smith.
Agreed If Then Norm Green Takes The Team Out of Minnesota To Dallas!
They did get him back
That happened about the same time as Team USA v Team Canada were having several games played at Met Center.
The dumbest move was drafting Brian Lawton
Ooooo! New York Americans next please!
Definitely a must do at some point!
I have tried a few times to be a fan of the North Stars, Wild growing up and living in Minnesota. The thing that ruins it for me is the violence, the fighting and nasty assaults players commit.
Back in the 1980’s the Stars games were on free tv. I was making dinner and decided to watch the hockey game, that was to begin at around 7:30. I tuned in a little early and the rink was full of gear and bodies were all over. The announcer was explaining in the pregame warmup the benches cleared and it was a donnybrook. Since the game had not started, none of the referees got involved, nobody called the police, what a shit show. I changed the channel and don’t think I ever watched them again.
I do watch college hockey sometimes, they don’t tolerate the fighting b.s,
As far as the Stars leaving, I couldn’t care less, except it led to the hockey league extorting the taxpayers to build a new arena. Just like the NBA, MLB, nfl ect. . As soon as one gets built, they come back with their hands out asking for millions more.
The North Stars leaving had nothing to do with the arena, it was the personal life of Norm Green if you know the story
@@michaelleroy9281 yea, not all the sorted details, but enough. If the state would have kissed Norm Green’s ass and gave him millions, he would have stuck around long enough to sell the team to someone else. They are all sociopaths, greedy ones at that.
The north star should come back to the league
15:41 A foreshadowing of what's to come....
2:55 Definitely need to do video about what happed to the California Golden Seals!
Absolutely!
I'm almost 70 years old, I know the history, just ask me
@@AllSportsHistorya California Golden Seals Video would Be Fantastic Besides The Original Winnipeg Jets!
@@michaelleroy9281 Whats the history, sir?
There were only 3 former North Stars from when they left that were on the Dallas Stars 1999 Stanley Cup Champions
Maybe Greene's dogs are Blackhawks or Blues fans?
They could be. Maybe they just don’t like him and his wife? LOL
The team name should stay with the area and fans if an owner relocated a team. But there is a lot of money in branding and that loser owner wasn’t ever going to do the right thing.
I’ve always thought “the Wild” was such a cheesy name
It’s a bad name, they should’ve picked a better name for that dope logo they have.
Bro please do one on the California (Oakland) seals
I work at the American Airline Center now. I look over my left shoulder and see Bill Masterton #19 sign ever Stars game. I also went the first Stars game against Detroit on October 5, 1993. We won 6-4 with Neal Broten scoring the first goal. Go Stars!
Great, no one cares.
The banner should be ours
Sour Grapes!@@MexicanRaincoatsAssistant
I get to see My Dallas Stars all the time!@@MexicanRaincoatsAssistant
What a comeback bud. The banner belongs in Minnesota. Just imagine getting a new owner in Dallas. He moves the team far away then sells them 2 years later. How would you feel?