Dude, you have the same bike I do! That's awesome! I love my bike as well. Maybe the video isn't doing the bikes any justice, but mine sounds way better than both of them.
It cracks me up when people always bring up the resale value of HDs. Some of us buy our bikes to ride the hell out of them, not to sell them.. Admittedly, I have owned 2 Vics and love them. I think that Victory overall make better cycles than just about anyone. That being said, this video is a bit biased, and is purely subjective on most points. Ride what ever you want, they make a lot of bikes, choose one and ride.
What a joke! Let's find some guy that owns three Ford trucks and ask him to take a Chevy for a drive and give us a fair unbiased opinion. Gimme a break!
I thought this was a Victory push but based on the conversation the Harley gets the nod over the Victory, even though he said he'd buy the Vegas, I guess he forgot that he actually preferred the Harley, lol. I considered the Victory but bought a slightly modified 2009 Harley Davidson Night Train and don't regret it, it's a keeper. Ride safe.
HD sounds better, better transmission, more stable at speed, better start up, better fit and finish, he liked the black paint on the engine better, better key position, has fork locks, etc. The only thing he liked better on the Vegas was the position of the kickstand and the design of the swing arm. “I still prefer the Vegas.” You’d think an editor would have caught that and made him come back in for adr to explain himself.
Actions speak lowder than words his owned 4 vegas not 4 harleys.... Harleys are like having grand kids you have fun with em but at the end of the day you dont have to take care of them
Didn't matter to me what bike they liked, this was by far the best "talk" i've ever seen about 2 bikes. Most comparo vids are less than 3 minutes long and give you no clue as to which bike would be better. Engine heat, cable mounting,speedo mount....... thumbs up to reviewing stuff that really matters.
This video is so funny. Thank you Victory for the free Harley ad! He spends the entire video saying he likes this and that better on the Harley. I'm not biased I like most bikes for one reason or another, but this is just not a well thought out video by the victory group. He basically said he likes the Harley better but would still buy a victory........? Brand loyalty is dumb, if you like one bike better than another........ride it and smile!
+canecorsodaddio I was thinking the same thing. What exactly besides the kickstand and lesser shake at below 40 did he like about the Harley. I basically heard the Harley performs better on the highway and is more comfortable etc etc. The only thing he didn't talk about was handling so I assume they were comparable. Sooo yea. What exactly was better on the Victory for him to choose it.. Like you said, brand loyalty??
Harley, I hop on it and it turns heads, I stop in the bar for a pint it brings people to my table. Harley Davidson the best pantie remover in the world.. No matter what your riding ride safe all.
So, final words he says he likes the Victory Vegas more, but throughout the video he's pointing out whats better on the Harley Wide Glide except for the swing arm and kick stand... I think he's confused...
No one actually thought he was going to pick the Harley, right? It's a Victory commercial and he says in the beginning this will be his 4th Vegas. Even though he says he likes the transmission, braking, sound, and finishing touches better on the Harley. He should just tell us he's getting a discount for doing the video. Hahaha!
Kevin Williamson I see a guy on my route every day with a victory Vegas parked in his driveway with the key in the ignition. For the past three years and guess what? You’re right! Nobody want to steal a victory!🤣🤣🤣
I have owned both the Harley Dyna and the Victory Vegas. The major appeal for the Harley is the look, sound, and tradition. The major drawback on my Harley Dyna is the vibration of the engine. The major appeal for me on my Victory was the smooth engine and ride but the looks are lacking. I just find myself drawn to the classic Harley look. Both are nice bikes but I found myself using my Dyna more especially when riding with a group...The Harley is just more of a head turner and the sound is unmatched. The Harley with its thunderous sound just beckons you to ride it. It touches your soul in a way that the Victory just can't.
Agree with you, Ive owned Victory's, Ive owned Harley's and Ive owned Indian. The Indian and the Victory's are long gone, I still have my 2009 Rocker C, 2014 Dyna Wide Glide and a 2021 Street Glide.
It's crazy, the sound difference, but a friend of mine has a vegas that sounds like hells bells at open throttle. I prefer harleys, but it's a shame that Victory is shutting down. I think the vegas is a good looking bike.
You've just sold me on a Harley. Except the fact the guy says he prefers victory at the end, it really sounds like the victory sucks and he likes the Harley.
Ha, that's kinda what I thought. The review seemed to be leaning toward the Harley, then the overall goes to the Vegas. But, on a different note, 8 years ago when I reached a point in my life when it was 'time to buy a Harley', I came home two weeks later with a Vegas. Tried again 6 months ago for a bagger/tour bike and came home with a Vision. Not many people set out to buy a Victory and come home with a Harley, but a lot of folks the past 15 years have set out to buy a Harley or other big V-twin and come home with a Victory. Their slogan 'ride one you'll own one' rings very true for me.
+orckiller91 I've got a 06 Dyna ,2011 Ultra,as a 2013 street bob *same as dyna, no engine problems on any, 65,000 miles combined mileage on all three,with the ultra leading at 25,000+,the '13 at 18,000+,the 06 slightly less. NO problems.
As a Victory owner I'm glad they're not trying to compare themselves to Harley anymore. Many of us wanted a big American cruiser that WASN'T a Harley. Nothing wrong with Harley's bikes, in fact many of them are awesome, but it seems like they have lost their focus. To me the Victory is more of a rider's bike where a Harley is a name first, much like a BMW or Mercedes. So you have your die hard HD guys and also a lot of poseur yuppie types just looking to show off how bad ass they are on the weekend. We Victory riders are the gearhead nerds trying to show how fast we can go (or how many miles we can go). In stock form the Victory does sound very much like a lawn mower as the HD sounds pretty awesome. I can see how some people could easily be persuaded. With pipes the Victory sounds like the hounds of hell as it should. Now that Polaris owns the Indian name and pretty much manufactures the same bikes with that name, I'm wondering if my Vic is going to be thrown to the scrap pile (as far as a name goes). I wonder if there will be a recall program to paint the Indian name on my Highball. Let's hope not.
So you are saying anyone buying a Harley is a poser and the Victory buyer is not. Man grow up. You just refuse to admit that the majority of cruiser buyers buy Harley, consumer reports 48% of cruiser sales are Harley Davidsons. The rest of all the manufacturers make up the remainder. But if you cant do math then keep thinking the way you do. At any rate enjoy your bike but it makes you look foolish to trash talk other brands, that to me is the real poser, anyone that thinks their choice is the only choice. ride safe.
Seriously? Do you not have a fucking life? You have trolled EVERY SINGLE FUCKING PERSON on this thread that doesn't think HD is awesome. EVERY FUCKING ONE! If they're so incredible, why do you constantly go back into the same threads, month after month after month, just trolling people that don't like HD? Talk about a fucking loser! LOL
You're the nimrod that keeps coming back in months later to sneak a reply in to my comments. And there is no way in heaven or hell that I would let a weasle-faced fucktard like you get the last word. Then I see that you do it to everyone.
Love the HD! I'd pick a Harley over any Victory anyday. I don't care about their shortcomings. HD has been around for 109 years so therefore must be doing something right. I don't know any other brand that has such a loyal brand following as HD does. I have ridden other brands as well but nothing compares to an HD ( in a very positive way ).HD's have indeed been copied but never duplicated. I think they're truly unique bikes a real household name. Owner of .HD Fat & Road King . .. . .
Agree with you. Ive owned Victory's, Ive owned Harley's and Ive owned Indian. The Indian and the Victory's are long gone, I still have my 2009 Rocker C, 2014 Dyna Wide Glide and a 2021 Street Glide.
Based on what was said in the video the HD was the better bike but why does Victory alway use an older model Harley for comparison? Check out the other Victory comparison videos and you will see what I mean. A new bike and the Victory still lost based on what the Victory guy said. Ride safe.
I am a Harley Biker but i liked the Victory bikes as well. Victory went out of business but what happend to all the bikes at the dealers? Did they all evaporate ?
Kawasaki 1700 Vulcan Vequero is a total motorcycle.......Its water-cooled, shaft drive is excellent......Not as pretty as a Harley (IMHO) but going across the country I think its a better choice....Many have gotten 150,000 trouble free miles on them!
This sounded more like a advertisement for Harley than a victory owners group video. All the things he pointed out about the Harley made me want it more than a Victory. I like the vibration personally makes me feel like I'm on a motorcycle not an electric scooter.
Good review of the bikes, but the verdict is a little biased since he currently owns three Victory Vegas bikes...do you really think he was going to pick the Harley? Even though it sounded like he found a few things about the Victory that he would like changed and a few things about the Harley that he definately prefered?? Later.
Forget all the verbal effluence. Thumb the START button and ROOOOAAAAAAR! The Victory slinks off with tail between its legs. If Victory can replicate that roar, then let 'em come back and try again!
So Timmy if I am a brand new bike maker my motors must be 6 valve, ice cream cooled, inline 5 cylinders right? Because 2,3,4 and 5 valves per cylinder; air,oil, and water cooling and single cylinder, v-twin, inline 2,3,4 and 6 cylinders have all been done on bikes before. This is what I MUST DO, if I don't want to copy anyone elses hard work that is...right?
thanks for the comparison. I am trying to decide which would be better for me. now all have to do is find time to drive 4 hours to the two dealer ships to sit on them.
So did you get a chance to ride a Victory and a Harley? You should compare Indian and Harley both are better than the Victory. I tried all three and the Indian and Harley were comparable, but the Victory was nice also but a noticeable vibration that the Indian and Harley didnt have. Buy what you like and by the way, pricing is close.
Dragan M while I was riding the victory I also felt a little extra vibration so I rode a harlydavison fatboy S and a indian chef vintage. I found both the harley davidson and indian to be more to my liking. I think I am going to pick the Fatboy S because it felt like I could move it around easier and also I like the gloss black look it has.
Madcatdave good choice, the S has more power. it's always best to be your own judge because these Victory videos are crappie and biased. I mean this in a nice way....told you so. I bought an 09 Night Train with a stage 1 kit, and was problem free. both the Indian and Harley are a good choice, in my opinion the Indian is for older folks lol. another good option is the Harley Breakout. I drove one this summer with the 103 ci and liked it but I felt it needed a little more power. I'm 5'7" and I loved the riding position better than any other cruiser except maybe for the V Rod that is a close 2nd for riding position.good luck with whatever you choose.
Would love to see a video with someone who is not a short stack. I realise that dsjr is a VOG.net regular, but man. I'm 8 inches taller than him, and trying to find a review for a taller rider seems to be pretty hard to come by.
I heard blah blah blah. Harley is better. blah blah blah. I'd buy the Victory. Well duh it's a Victory channel and you own all Victory's. I own Harley's so what I choose. See how that works.
leibstandarte1stSS if I review a victory and all I own are Harleys what is going to be my response to the victory.. It sucks because the only experience I have is on a harley.
Seems they recorded the sound of the pipes wrong. On the Victory they were on the opposite side of the pipes, the Harley, same side. Also, my Victory does have fork locks... it is the Kingpin Deluxe though.
pauloesnegro So being a cruiser makes a bike "King of the Road" ?? Strange logic you have. Harleys are great cruisers. But a Goldwing is even better. Objectively, Harleys certainly aren't the best. That's all.
DolleHengst That's not my logic. They're not laughing stock anywhere either. You are probably trying to defend what you own, or by the looks of it, wish to own.
***** By smoke i mean that most Japanese and European bikes are better in virtually every aspect. Not just speed. Comparing a Harley to a modern bike is like comparing a Morgan to a brand new Porsche Boxter
victory is a better running bike, but I'm true to my bike, it's never let me down, I'm sure if it were a shovel head I'd be fixing on it all the time. with me I love the shovel, and I love the pan and the knuckle the older the better, if I was to do some long mile runs, maybe just maybe I would get something with more technology . safe riding brother.
I love Harley, to be honest. Always have. I've test drove pretty much all the Dynas, Softails and even a couple of Touring bikes in the last 6 weeks. I'm going to be deciding and purchasing a new bike in January. There is no denying it... Harley has soul. Their technology has improved greatly, and of course their styling is (IMO) the best. I've just starting to look at the Victory's lately... but haven't test drove one though. This all is going to make my final decision all the harder. There's one thing that I do know. My next bike is going to be American. Ride safe bro.
good luck , look it's the man on the bike , not the bike under the man, I just let go of my warrior 1700 with a lot of custom touches on it, I have all types of bikes I just like my trouble child so I kind of stick with the older Harleys, no computers no wires no sensors, just two pistons and a carb.
+solomyngrundy1968 . Harley Davidson is a piece of crap too bad . Did you see how the Harley was vibrating like crazy . Imagine you ride 500 miles when you go to bed tuck under the cover you still feel your hands vibrating like a hammer on a construction site . I don't want arthritis oh no .
Well of course, if it's a "HONEST" video comparison from Victory Owners Group, between a Victory and a Harley, WELL, surprise of course the guy is going to take the money and say that he would pick the Vic over the Harley. That victory is hideous in my opinion, as far as I'm concerned the only VTWIN in this video is that of a Harley.
@MrClanCularius Exactly. I used to ride a Vulcan VN800A. Beautiful bike, great handling (for a cruiser), brakes that actually work and great performance for 800cc. I always ran rings around my buddies on their Fat Boys. Still: Every time I rode with those Harleys, I always envied them their engines' character. Start-up/idle-sound, the "clonk" from the gearbox .. The Kawa's V2 just seemed soul-less in comparison. That's why if I get another (cruiser)-bike, I'd always go with the Harley.
I just purchased my 5th Harley and plan to add another before the end of the year. To me nothing with an engine looks better, sounds better, or feels better than a air cooled Harley v-twin. I wouldn't mind owning a victory cross roads as my third or fourth bike but I would never trade my Harley for one. Victory, triumph, and Kawasaki all make really nice bikes and I wouldn't mind owning one of each.
I have a Wide Glide. Love everything about it. Not a single complaint, but I'm not one of those Harley guys that automatically hates any other brand of bike. Ride what you like and get in the wind!
went to a motorcycle expo. checked out the victory and liked them. went home to look for a dealership. there were no dealerships that dealt purely victory. they sold snowmobiles, jetskis, sportbikes, quads, and victory. i have a harley and am not a slave to the brand (don't own a single piece of harley clothing), but the dealership gave me pause. i like that the guys who on my harley do nothing but harleys, that the dealer sells nothing but harleys? any victory riders have any thoughts?
you dumb ass victory is a hands down better bike and is more American then a fucking dick twisting HD going out of business because they now make the Indian and are in the progress of trying to make HD all american (witch they are not ) again your just another dumb fuck thinks because he pays on a HD rest of there life no's what there talking about my Vegas will turn more heads then your junk ass HD will ever
well at the end of day you want reliability...victory is way more reliable, just keep searching about the transmission system and step motor and other stuff and you'd get what I'm saying, man
Well Polaris bought out the Indian name and look at those bikes! Free kin awesome! I have owned both Harley and victory. Currently riding a triumph Rocket 3. next bike for sure will be a victory hands down.
Interesting comparison. The Victory has a modern sweeping look to it. Cool but not for everyone. I love the Wide Glide, but it has the 103 A Motor in it. If they put the 103 B motor in, it would be a better bike IMHO. The A motors bounce on the rubber mounts shaking the hell out of the bike. That is why the gauges are on the tank, you would never be able to read them on the bars. But I guess that is what most HD people want.
I've owned a dozen H-Ds (including two FXRs). This is the 21st century. It's time for a change. My new machine for around town will be a Victory Vegas. For touring, I'll take my Beemer.
I would say whichever one speaks to your heart and soul is the right choice, just like everything else in life. You can make a list of pros and cons, rationalize, etc.., but which choice, if any, stirs your soul?
Which would be a motorcycle with a mean, evil, dark, yet old school and classic look? Im deciding between a Wide Glide or a FatBoy. But which bike would be considered more aggressive and classic? Im into the style of the MCs (do not belong in one), and Im looking for a retro and evil feel.
I have a 2007 Wide Glide and I love it. I feel that people buy the Wide Glide for the style. The Wide Glide is a highway bike and was meant to run and run fast. These are two totally different bikes for two totally different riders. If Harleys are so bad then why does every bike out there try to look like a Harley? Let that sink in for a moment.
I'm a Victory owner and what he says about unestability in high speeds is true. Victory motorcycles have big engines and light weight chasis, that's a bad combination
Can't get an unbiased opinion from a dude that owns three Vegas model Victory bikes. Go figure. I rode two models of Vegas (8 ball and Judge) before deciding to buy my Super Glide. The one factor that swayed my decision most was the "not sounding like a industrial floor polisher" factor. I love my Harley. 'Nuff said.
The Vegas wins for low speed ride comfort, feet down comfort, fork mounted speedo, kickstand and swingarm. The Harley wins for:better transmission, cable managment, engine colour, front brakes, high speed stability, its sound, key/fob arrangement and having a fork lock. Pretty close I'd say.
I hear guys say "HD man, no substitutions" are the same guys that can't go riding because there fixing their rigs, or still in the doghouse with their gal because their still saving for that over priced accessory. That, and they didn't have enough doe left over after paying 8 grand more for the HD. For a toy, I ride when I can, I'll keep the extra money thank you.
Ive owned Victory's, Ive owned Harley's and Ive owned Indian. The Indian and the Victory's are long gone, I still have my 2009 Rocker C, 2014 Dyna Wide Glide and a 2021 Street Glide.
I like both Harley and Victory. Both US companies. I like the style of the Vegas better than any of the HD Big Twins. If you are looking for the the Harley sound, you need to buy a Harley... period! If Victory would make a 1200 that gets 50+ mpg like my 06 HD XL200C, then there would probably be one in my garage now. Until then, I will stick my Sportster. I still would like a Vegas or Hammer, too. I find it hysterical that HD haters constantly diss Harley, but for some reason Harley continues to hold the biggest market share... hmmm, I think it speaks for itself. As far as reliability, the advent of the Evo engines in the mid 80s was the start of new era of reliability for HD. I could say that Hondas are unreliable with all the transmissions with a broken second gear. I bet I could dig up dirt on every model bike out there. Does that mean all bikes are unreliable junk? Not in my opinion. I have owned several Yamahas and Hondas in the past and all were good bikes, but these days I stick with American companies. That leaves Victory, HD, and Indian in the motorcycle world. I say ride what YOU like, and respect the opinions of others. It would be a pretty boring world if we all rode the same thing. The "best" bike for one is not the "best" bike for all.
He said in the beginning he preferred the Vegas. It wasn't as lopsided as you made it out to be. Some items just get weighted differently. For instance, the freedom 106 for me spanks the annoying big twin hands down. The wide glide also has an annoying kickstand and the tank gages are also not preferred and also noted in the video. It's all preference and opinion. I'd ride a 1200 custom long before an ultra. My preference. YMMV
Also, I just watched this again, the guy says that the only areas where the Victory beat the HD was swingarm looks, speedo placement, seat comfort and less vibration. The rest of the areas the Wide Glide takes, tranny, sound, cable routing, ect. and when he says that he would buy the Victory, the interviewer says sarcastically, "surprise!" Really? I mean, is this just a bad example of marketing? I'd really like to talk to R. Lee Ermy about this. And go for a ride with him.
Realistically though fit wise would probably be more appropriate to compare the fxdl that also includes adjustable seat and risers. Not a harley that's more built for larger people, by that I mean above 5"8.
Man the sound comparison really made the Harleys case......I really didnt see anything from this video that would make me choose a Victory over a Harley.
I love my 2008 Victory Vegas 8 Ball...super easy to maintain myself and ultra reliable.
Thats a nice bike, enjoy and ride safe.
Dude, you have the same bike I do! That's awesome! I love my bike as well.
Maybe the video isn't doing the bikes any justice, but mine sounds way better than both of them.
It cracks me up when people always bring up the resale value of HDs. Some of us buy our bikes to ride the hell out of them, not to sell them..
Admittedly, I have owned 2 Vics and love them. I think that Victory overall make better cycles than just about anyone.
That being said, this video is a bit biased, and is purely subjective on most points.
Ride what ever you want, they make a lot of bikes, choose one and ride.
RoadHunter72 I agree! I never purchased a motorcycle as an investment! Hell ride the nuts off of it, that is what motorcycling is all about!
This Indian rider agrees 100%
Anyone who doesnt see good resale value as a positive doesn’t have a brain.
I’m 5.2 high is victory bobber fits for me
What a joke! Let's find some guy that owns three Ford trucks and ask him to take a Chevy for a drive and give us a fair unbiased opinion. Gimme a break!
I agree. I thought Polaris stopped making the Victory and just made the Indian line?
I thought this was a Victory push but based on the conversation the Harley gets the nod over the Victory, even though he said he'd buy the Vegas, I guess he forgot that he actually preferred the Harley, lol. I considered the Victory but bought a slightly modified 2009 Harley Davidson Night Train and don't regret it, it's a keeper. Ride safe.
Everything he says sounds like Harley is better...
My thoughts exactly...lol.
IamDarkStar2012 that's cause Harley is better.
HD sounds better, better transmission, more stable at speed, better start up, better fit and finish, he liked the black paint on the engine better, better key position, has fork locks, etc. The only thing he liked better on the Vegas was the position of the kickstand and the design of the swing arm. “I still prefer the Vegas.” You’d think an editor would have caught that and made him come back in for adr to explain himself.
once you get a victory you will NEVER get a lawn mower harley again ....lol
Actions speak lowder than words his owned 4 vegas not 4 harleys.... Harleys are like having grand kids you have fun with em but at the end of the day you dont have to take care of them
Funny how the only complaints he has about the Harley are the signature Harley things. The shake, wide bike.
Didn't matter to me what bike they liked, this was by far the best "talk" i've ever seen about 2 bikes. Most comparo vids are less than 3 minutes long and give you no clue as to which bike would be better. Engine heat, cable mounting,speedo mount....... thumbs up to reviewing stuff that really matters.
This video is so funny. Thank you Victory for the free Harley ad! He spends the entire video saying he likes this and that better on the Harley. I'm not biased I like most bikes for one reason or another, but this is just not a well thought out video by the victory group. He basically said he likes the Harley better but would still buy a victory........? Brand loyalty is dumb, if you like one bike better than another........ride it and smile!
+canecorsodaddio I was thinking the same thing. What exactly besides the kickstand and lesser shake at below 40 did he like about the Harley. I basically heard the Harley performs better on the highway and is more comfortable etc etc.
The only thing he didn't talk about was handling so I assume they were comparable. Sooo yea. What exactly was better on the Victory for him to choose it.. Like you said, brand loyalty??
He obviously loves his victories, cheaper, better build, better engine, not a hardly tractor, just look at that horn wobble😂
Harley, I hop on it and it turns heads, I stop in the bar for a pint it brings people to my table. Harley Davidson the best pantie remover in the world.. No matter what your riding ride safe all.
This guy is surprisingly honest. Does not totally side with the bikes that he currently owns. Subscribed.
So, final words he says he likes the Victory Vegas more, but throughout the video he's pointing out whats better on the Harley Wide Glide except for the swing arm and kick stand... I think he's confused...
No one actually thought he was going to pick the Harley, right? It's a Victory commercial and he says in the beginning this will be his 4th Vegas. Even though he says he likes the transmission, braking, sound, and finishing touches better on the Harley. He should just tell us he's getting a discount for doing the video. Hahaha!
the victory doesn't need fork lock. nobody in their right mind would want to steal it.
Kevin Williamson I see a guy on my route every day with a victory Vegas parked in his driveway with the key in the ignition. For the past three years and guess what? You’re right! Nobody want to steal a victory!🤣🤣🤣
your village called their idiot is missing...lol
I have a victory highball an I shit on Harley’s I’m just like yeah I hear ya back there bud😂
Great review. Makes me want to buy a Harley Wide Glide!
Bobber16 i love my wide glide the only negative thing i agreed with was the kickstand it can be a pain.
Harley is a harley. U cant beat that.
I have owned both the Harley Dyna and the Victory Vegas.
The major appeal for the Harley is the look, sound, and tradition. The major drawback on my Harley Dyna is the vibration of the engine.
The major appeal for me on my Victory was the smooth engine and ride but the looks are lacking. I just find myself drawn to the classic Harley look.
Both are nice bikes but I found myself using my Dyna more especially when riding with a group...The Harley is just more of a head turner and the sound is unmatched. The Harley with its thunderous sound just beckons you to ride it. It touches your soul in a way that the Victory just can't.
Try the softail slim. 103b engine, no vibration on the soft ails.
Im about to buy the Dyna 2011. First bike (beginner) hopefully the rattling
Doesn't disappoint me.
Agree with you, Ive owned Victory's, Ive owned Harley's and Ive owned Indian. The Indian and the Victory's are long gone, I still have my 2009 Rocker C, 2014 Dyna Wide Glide and a 2021 Street Glide.
It's crazy, the sound difference, but a friend of mine has a vegas that sounds like hells bells at open throttle. I prefer harleys, but it's a shame that Victory is shutting down. I think the vegas is a good looking bike.
The Harley looks and sounds Better! And most importantly the Harley will be there long after the Victory cycles will be gone.
Agreed
You've just sold me on a Harley. Except the fact the guy says he prefers victory at the end, it really sounds like the victory sucks and he likes the Harley.
Ha, that's kinda what I thought. The review seemed to be leaning toward the Harley, then the overall goes to the Vegas.
But, on a different note, 8 years ago when I reached a point in my life when it was 'time to buy a Harley', I came home two weeks later with a Vegas. Tried again 6 months ago for a bagger/tour bike and came home with a Vision. Not many people set out to buy a Victory and come home with a Harley, but a lot of folks the past 15 years have set out to buy a Harley or other big V-twin and come home with a Victory. Their slogan 'ride one you'll own one' rings very true for me.
Enjoy the motor issues that come with HD
+orckiller91 I've got a 06 Dyna ,2011 Ultra,as a 2013 street bob *same as dyna, no engine problems on any, 65,000 miles combined mileage on all three,with the ultra leading at 25,000+,the '13 at 18,000+,the 06 slightly less. NO problems.
As a Victory owner I'm glad they're not trying to compare themselves to Harley anymore. Many of us wanted a big American cruiser that WASN'T a Harley. Nothing wrong with Harley's bikes, in fact many of them are awesome, but it seems like they have lost their focus. To me the Victory is more of a rider's bike where a Harley is a name first, much like a BMW or Mercedes. So you have your die hard HD guys and also a lot of poseur yuppie types just looking to show off how bad ass they are on the weekend. We Victory riders are the gearhead nerds trying to show how fast we can go (or how many miles we can go). In stock form the Victory does sound very much like a lawn mower as the HD sounds pretty awesome. I can see how some people could easily be persuaded. With pipes the Victory sounds like the hounds of hell as it should. Now that Polaris owns the Indian name and pretty much manufactures the same bikes with that name, I'm wondering if my Vic is going to be thrown to the scrap pile (as far as a name goes). I wonder if there will be a recall program to paint the Indian name on my Highball. Let's hope not.
Whatever bro
So you are saying anyone buying a Harley is a poser and the Victory buyer is not. Man grow up. You just refuse to admit that the majority of cruiser buyers buy Harley, consumer reports 48% of cruiser sales are Harley Davidsons. The rest of all the manufacturers make up the remainder. But if you cant do math then keep thinking the way you do. At any rate enjoy your bike but it makes you look foolish to trash talk other brands, that to me is the real poser, anyone that thinks their choice is the only choice. ride safe.
Seriously? Do you not have a fucking life? You have trolled EVERY SINGLE FUCKING PERSON on this thread that doesn't think HD is awesome. EVERY FUCKING ONE! If they're so incredible, why do you constantly go back into the same threads, month after month after month, just trolling people that don't like HD? Talk about a fucking loser! LOL
solomyngrundy1968 how is that any different than what you are doing? hahaha. you're just upset that I'm cutting into your action hahahaha.
You're the nimrod that keeps coming back in months later to sneak a reply in to my comments. And there is no way in heaven or hell that I would let a weasle-faced fucktard like you get the last word. Then I see that you do it to everyone.
I have that same Wide Glide... I LOVE IT!!!!!!! I sit on it in the garage at night. Just chillin.
VICTORY,My Harley stays in shop more than on the road!My Victory never had a problem!!!
SUPRISE! Choosing Victory in a Victory commercial from the Victory Owners group! Who isn't that Suprised???
Love the HD! I'd pick a Harley over any Victory anyday. I don't care about their shortcomings. HD has been around for 109 years so therefore must be doing something right. I don't know any other brand that has such a loyal brand following as HD does. I have ridden other brands as well but nothing compares to an HD ( in a very positive way ).HD's have indeed been copied but never duplicated. I think they're truly unique bikes a real household name.
Owner of .HD Fat & Road King . .. . .
Agree with you. Ive owned Victory's, Ive owned Harley's and Ive owned Indian. The Indian and the Victory's are long gone, I still have my 2009 Rocker C, 2014 Dyna Wide Glide and a 2021 Street Glide.
If I wanted to ride snowmobiles I'd buy the Polaris. But I'm riding a motorcycle so keep your victory and I'll enjoy my Harley.
Just listen to the motorcycles. The Victory sounds like a sewing machine and the Harley sounds like what I think a motorcycle should sound like.
It may sound like a sewing machine, but at least it performs like a motorcycle should.
Hahaha. Hey Troll I see youre still at it........loser.
Jeff Krueger fucked it does they should have called it Bernina victory lol
sewing machine lol
Maybe because the mic is exhaust side on the Harley and opposite side on the Vic.
I totally agree. No matters what you ride, the most important is that you ride, period.
Based on what was said in the video the HD was the better bike but why does Victory alway use an older model Harley for comparison? Check out the other Victory comparison videos and you will see what I mean. A new bike and the Victory still lost based on what the Victory guy said. Ride safe.
I am a Harley Biker but i liked the Victory bikes as well. Victory went out of business but what happend to all the bikes at the dealers? Did they all evaporate ?
Really liked how this review was less biased... both companies have they're pros and cons.
Harley is a great choice for anyone that is a motorcycle mechanic.
Kawasaki 1700 Vulcan Vequero is a total motorcycle.......Its water-cooled, shaft drive is excellent......Not as pretty as a Harley (IMHO) but going across the country I think its a better choice....Many have gotten 150,000 trouble free miles on them!
The Vaquero has serious issues not experienced by Harley owners. Check the Kawasaki forums and you will see for yourself.
I'm a Victory fan, but these videos really make the Harleys look better...I'd fire this guy
The rider didn't seem biased. He pointed out what he likes about both bikes
no fork locks cuz no one will try and steal it
Watching the video with a smile thank you for the review
This sounded more like a advertisement for Harley than a victory owners group video. All the things he pointed out about the Harley made me want it more than a Victory. I like the vibration personally makes me feel like I'm on a motorcycle not an electric scooter.
They're gettin there. Fit and finish has improved over the last couple of years.
Good review of the bikes, but the verdict is a little biased since he currently owns three Victory Vegas bikes...do you really think he was going to pick the Harley? Even though it sounded like he found a few things about the Victory that he would like changed and a few things about the Harley that he definately prefered??
Later.
Forget all the verbal effluence. Thumb the START button and ROOOOAAAAAAR! The Victory slinks off with tail between its legs. If Victory can replicate that roar, then let 'em come back and try again!
Too bad the Victory would hand the Harley it's ass though, huh?
solomyngrundy1968 😂😂
So Timmy if I am a brand new bike maker my motors must be 6 valve, ice cream cooled, inline 5 cylinders right? Because 2,3,4 and 5 valves per cylinder; air,oil, and water cooling and single cylinder, v-twin, inline 2,3,4 and 6 cylinders have all been done on bikes before. This is what I MUST DO, if I don't want to copy anyone elses hard work that is...right?
Looking at these two bikes together, there's no question which is the coolest bike. The Harley wins hands down.
What bike will hold its value better?
thanks for the comparison. I am trying to decide which would be better for me. now all have to do is find time to drive 4 hours to the two dealer ships to sit on them.
So did you get a chance to ride a Victory and a Harley? You should compare Indian and Harley both are better than the Victory. I tried all three and the Indian and Harley were comparable, but the Victory was nice also but a noticeable vibration that the Indian and Harley didnt have. Buy what you like and by the way, pricing is close.
Dragan M while I was riding the victory I also felt a little extra vibration so I rode a harlydavison fatboy S and a indian chef vintage. I found both the harley davidson and indian to be more to my liking. I think I am going to pick the Fatboy S because it felt like I could move it around easier and also I like the gloss black look it has.
Madcatdave good choice, the S has more power. it's always best to be your own judge because these Victory videos are crappie and biased. I mean this in a nice way....told you so. I bought an 09 Night Train with a stage 1 kit, and was problem free. both the Indian and Harley are a good choice, in my opinion the Indian is for older folks lol. another good option is the Harley Breakout. I drove one this summer with the 103 ci and liked it but I felt it needed a little more power. I'm 5'7" and I loved the riding position better than any other cruiser except maybe for the V Rod that is a close 2nd for riding position.good luck with whatever you choose.
Would love to see a video with someone who is not a short stack. I realise that dsjr is a VOG.net regular, but man. I'm 8 inches taller than him, and trying to find a review for a taller rider seems to be pretty hard to come by.
I heard blah blah blah. Harley is better. blah blah blah. I'd buy the Victory. Well duh it's a Victory channel and you own all Victory's. I own Harley's so what I choose. See how that works.
Very True.
+Love 4 Boost what are you trying to say?
leibstandarte1stSS if I review a victory and all I own are Harleys what is going to be my response to the victory..
It sucks because the only experience I have is on a harley.
Seems they recorded the sound of the pipes wrong. On the Victory they were on the opposite side of the pipes, the Harley, same side. Also, my Victory does have fork locks... it is the Kingpin Deluxe though.
H-D will always be the king of the road!
In the US maybe. In Europe, they are the laughing stock among motorcyclists. Any Ducati, Triumph or BMW will smoke a Harley
DolleHengst I dont think you know what cruising is. Get a japanese bike then.
pauloesnegro
So being a cruiser makes a bike "King of the Road" ?? Strange logic you have.
Harleys are great cruisers. But a Goldwing is even better.
Objectively, Harleys certainly aren't the best. That's all.
DolleHengst That's not my logic. They're not laughing stock anywhere either. You are probably trying to defend what you own, or by the looks of it, wish to own.
*****
By smoke i mean that most Japanese and European bikes are better in virtually every aspect. Not just speed.
Comparing a Harley to a modern bike is like comparing a Morgan to a brand new Porsche Boxter
if you push a button will the Polaris turn back into a snowmobile ?
+jojojeep1 No, but with Victory's forward thinking (as oppossed to the 80+ year old technology of a Harley), I wouldn't be surprised if they did!
victory is a better running bike, but I'm true to my bike, it's never let me down, I'm sure if it were a shovel head I'd be fixing on it all the time. with me I love the shovel, and I love the pan and the knuckle the older the better, if I was to do some long mile runs, maybe just maybe I would get something with more technology . safe riding brother.
I love Harley, to be honest. Always have. I've test drove pretty much all the Dynas, Softails and even a couple of Touring bikes in the last 6 weeks. I'm going to be deciding and purchasing a new bike in January.
There is no denying it... Harley has soul. Their technology has improved greatly, and of course their styling is (IMO) the best.
I've just starting to look at the Victory's lately... but haven't test drove one though. This all is going to make my final decision all the harder.
There's one thing that I do know. My next bike is going to be American.
Ride safe bro.
good luck , look it's the man on the bike , not the bike under the man, I just let go of my warrior 1700 with a lot of custom touches on it, I have all types of bikes I just like my trouble child so I kind of stick with the older Harleys, no computers no wires no sensors, just two pistons and a carb.
+solomyngrundy1968 . Harley Davidson is a piece of crap too bad . Did you see how the Harley was vibrating like crazy . Imagine you ride 500 miles when you go to bed tuck under the cover you still feel your hands vibrating like a hammer on a construction site . I don't want arthritis oh no .
Well of course, if it's a "HONEST" video comparison from Victory Owners Group, between a Victory and a Harley, WELL, surprise of course the guy is going to take the money and say that he would pick the Vic over the Harley. That victory is hideous in my opinion, as far as I'm concerned the only VTWIN in this video is that of a Harley.
Why didn't you listen to the exhaust side of the Vegas like you did the Harley?
So all they talked about was why and how the Harley stood out yet picked the Vegas? I didn’t hear one point that made the Vegas better... enlighten me
@MrClanCularius Exactly. I used to ride a Vulcan VN800A. Beautiful bike, great handling (for a cruiser), brakes that actually work and great performance for 800cc. I always ran rings around my buddies on their Fat Boys. Still: Every time I rode with those Harleys, I always envied them their engines' character. Start-up/idle-sound, the "clonk" from the gearbox .. The Kawa's V2 just seemed soul-less in comparison. That's why if I get another (cruiser)-bike, I'd always go with the Harley.
I just purchased my 5th Harley and plan to add another before the end of the year. To me nothing with an engine looks better, sounds better, or feels better than a air cooled Harley v-twin. I wouldn't mind owning a victory cross roads as my third or fourth bike but I would never trade my Harley for one. Victory, triumph, and Kawasaki all make really nice bikes and I wouldn't mind owning one of each.
I have a Wide Glide. Love everything about it. Not a single complaint, but I'm not one of those Harley guys that automatically hates any other brand of bike. Ride what you like and get in the wind!
I'm confused was he trying to talk us into or out of buying a Victory??
they talked me into a zx14
Why all the dislikes? Seemed like a really honest review
He's owned 4 victory's to find one good one.
went to a motorcycle expo. checked out the victory and liked them. went home to look for a dealership. there were no dealerships that dealt purely victory. they sold snowmobiles, jetskis, sportbikes, quads, and victory. i have a harley and am not a slave to the brand (don't own a single piece of harley clothing), but the dealership gave me pause. i like that the guys who on my harley do nothing but harleys, that the dealer sells nothing but harleys? any victory riders have any thoughts?
I agree with BloodTar . He said he would buy the Victory but had a lot of good things to say about the Harley .
harley wins for me just because of the sound
Harley-Davidson wins because Victory suck!!! Oh and I guess they're going out of business too. LOL
you dumb ass victory is a hands down better bike and is more American then a fucking dick twisting HD going out of business because they now make the Indian and are in the progress of trying to make HD all american (witch they are not ) again your just another dumb fuck thinks because he pays on a HD rest of there life no's what there talking about my Vegas will turn more heads then your junk ass HD will ever
well at the end of day you want reliability...victory is way more reliable, just keep searching about the transmission system and step motor and other stuff and you'd get what I'm saying, man
He is buying a Harley soon!!! Welcome to the family!!
Hi don , I'm gonna ask you a few questions and I need you to answer them as we discussed earlier!
sounds like even VOG members prefer the Harley
Well Polaris bought out the Indian name and look at those bikes!
Free kin awesome!
I have owned both Harley and victory.
Currently riding a triumph Rocket 3.
next bike for sure will be a victory hands down.
what is the guy with the sunglasses name?.,,
Interesting comparison. The Victory has a modern sweeping look to it. Cool but not for everyone. I love the Wide Glide, but it has the 103 A Motor in it. If they put the 103 B motor in, it would be a better bike IMHO. The A motors bounce on the rubber mounts shaking the hell out of the bike. That is why the gauges are on the tank, you would never be able to read them on the bars. But I guess that is what most HD people want.
Good job at finding a non biased rider (sarcasm).
I've owned a dozen H-Ds (including two FXRs). This is the 21st century. It's time for a change. My new machine for around town will be a Victory Vegas. For touring, I'll take my Beemer.
I would say whichever one speaks to your heart and soul is the right choice, just like everything else in life. You can make a list of pros and cons, rationalize, etc.., but which choice, if any, stirs your soul?
I will just have to get both, Harley for Harley group rides and Victory for every other day.
Did anyone notice how much he stared at the HD at the end of the video, after he said he liked the Victory more?
the only problem I have with buying a Victory is that they do not have a dealership/shop in New York City.
Never had a cruiser but Harleys have the best sound in the world.
Which would be a motorcycle with a mean, evil, dark, yet old school and classic look?
Im deciding between a Wide Glide or a FatBoy.
But which bike would be considered more aggressive and classic?
Im into the style of the MCs (do not belong in one), and Im looking for a retro and evil feel.
+R_Machine91 You want something in the Dyna range.
Greg Garrison You tell me what sounds best based on what I wrote. In the Dyna range , I believe only the Wide Glide comes close to what I described.
yeah.
Just styleing alone is the biggest plus for the Harley.
I have a 2007 Wide Glide and I love it. I feel that people buy the Wide Glide for the style. The Wide Glide is a highway bike and was meant to run and run fast. These are two totally different bikes for two totally different riders. If Harleys are so bad then why does every bike out there try to look like a Harley? Let that sink in for a moment.
LOL.. No.. No cruiser was meant to run fast.. I ride cruisers and sport bikes and if I want to go fast I leave the cruiser in the garage..
HARLEY WINS! He says more good things about the Dyna than the Vegas.
I'm a Victory owner and what he says about unestability in high speeds is true. Victory motorcycles have big engines and light weight chasis, that's a bad combination
If I wanted a Honda, I would by a Victory. I LOVE my Harley.
Yeah everything sounded better and looks better for the wide glide. These guys are selling victory? ? ?
the guy doesn't claim to be an expert, he just calls it as he sees it. i can accept that.
Can't get an unbiased opinion from a dude that owns three Vegas model Victory bikes. Go figure. I rode two models of Vegas (8 ball and Judge) before deciding to buy my Super Glide. The one factor that swayed my decision most was the "not sounding like a industrial floor polisher" factor. I love my Harley. 'Nuff said.
He should have asked which one has more plastic parts!! His answer would have been, "The Victory wins hands down"!
Surprise Surprise , the Victory owners group, like the Victory models better,LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Sonny Dryer 😂
The Vegas wins for low speed ride comfort, feet down comfort, fork mounted speedo, kickstand and swingarm. The Harley wins for:better transmission, cable managment, engine colour, front brakes, high speed stability, its sound, key/fob arrangement and having a fork lock. Pretty close I'd say.
I hear guys say "HD man, no substitutions" are the same guys that can't go riding because there fixing their rigs, or still in the doghouse with their gal because their still saving for that over priced accessory. That, and they didn't have enough doe left over after paying 8 grand more for the HD. For a toy, I ride when I can, I'll keep the extra money thank you.
How about compare all cruisers with all cruisers and see who comes out on top?
HD comes in last or close to it on every comparison......
Ive owned Victory's, Ive owned Harley's and Ive owned Indian. The Indian and the Victory's are long gone, I still have my 2009 Rocker C, 2014 Dyna Wide Glide and a 2021 Street Glide.
@HellsAngelsForever
Nothing has been deleted. If it has, it was flagged by CZcams or the original poster. I don't filter the comments.
I have a softail custom decked out but im looking for a victory as i type this lol
I like both Harley and Victory. Both US companies. I like the style of the Vegas better than any of the HD Big Twins. If you are looking for the the Harley sound, you need to buy a Harley... period! If Victory would make a 1200 that gets 50+ mpg like my 06 HD XL200C, then there would probably be one in my garage now. Until then, I will stick my Sportster. I still would like a Vegas or Hammer, too.
I find it hysterical that HD haters constantly diss Harley, but for some reason Harley continues to hold the biggest market share... hmmm, I think it speaks for itself. As far as reliability, the advent of the Evo engines in the mid 80s was the start of new era of reliability for HD. I could say that Hondas are unreliable with all the transmissions with a broken second gear. I bet I could dig up dirt on every model bike out there. Does that mean all bikes are unreliable junk? Not in my opinion. I have owned several Yamahas and Hondas in the past and all were good bikes, but these days I stick with American companies. That leaves Victory, HD, and Indian in the motorcycle world.
I say ride what YOU like, and respect the opinions of others. It would be a pretty boring world if we all rode the same thing. The "best" bike for one is not the "best" bike for all.
No offense, I think the guy who did the test ride likes the Harley better. Both are sweet bikes.
Is this a Harley add?
He said in the beginning he preferred the Vegas. It wasn't as lopsided as you made it out to be. Some items just get weighted differently. For instance, the freedom 106 for me spanks the annoying big twin hands down. The wide glide also has an annoying kickstand and the tank gages are also not preferred and also noted in the video. It's all preference and opinion. I'd ride a 1200 custom long before an ultra. My preference. YMMV
Also, I just watched this again, the guy says that the only areas where the Victory beat the HD was swingarm looks, speedo placement, seat comfort and less vibration. The rest of the areas the Wide Glide takes, tranny, sound, cable routing, ect. and when he says that he would buy the Victory, the interviewer says sarcastically, "surprise!"
Really? I mean, is this just a bad example of marketing? I'd really like to talk to R. Lee Ermy about this. And go for a ride with him.
Realistically though fit wise would probably be more appropriate to compare the fxdl that also includes adjustable seat and risers. Not a harley that's more built for larger people, by that I mean above 5"8.
Man the sound comparison really made the Harleys case......I really didnt see anything from this video that would make me choose a Victory over a Harley.