Dark Sun: Mad Max Meets Dungeons & Dragons

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    Let's trek into the treacherous wasteland of Athas, evading the wicked grasp of Silt Horrors, the tyranny of Sorcerer-Kings and the highwaymen of the city-state of Tyr, in Dark Sun: Shattered Lands and Dark Sun: Wake of the Ravager.
    Dark Sun takes place in a post-apocalyptic fantasy world that plays out like Mad Max meets Advanced Dungeons & Dragons, where water, flora, fauna and hard metals are precious and scarce. A sort of "medieval Fallout" with magic and psionic powers, Dark Sun is a memorable tabletop game setting that inspired two classic DOS RPGs that still hold up today, for those with the patience to see it through.
    Developed by Strategic Simulations, Inc. as their first great departure from the Gold Box RPGs that made them successful, Dark Sun lives in the memories of its fans, and hopefully this video will convince more players to give it a try.
    This video aims to also serve as a beginner's guide to help you through the tribulations of Athas, in your grim quest to save the world…or what's left of it!
    0:00 - Intro
    1:51 - Setting
    6:52 - Shattered Lands
    7:24 - Character Creation
    10:27 - Story
    11:07 - Gameplay
    13:08 - Character Swapping
    13:54 - Wake of the Ravager
    16:34 - Crimson Sands
    17:12 - How They Hold Up
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    SOURCES
    History of SSI Games
    sites.google.com/site/ssihist...
    www.mobygames.com/company/str...
    Dark Sun on MobyGames (art, references, etc.)
    www.mobygames.com/game/dark-s...
    www.mobygames.com/game/dos/da...
    Dark Sun tabletop setting
    mythlands-erce.blogspot.com/20...
    Brom, artist:
    • Brom Interview
    Dark Sun character creation/abilities:
    www.g4li.org/dark-sun-shatter...
    crpgaddict.blogspot.com/2021/1...
    lucasabandonware.free.fr/manue...
    Dark Sun Geopolitics:
    • Geopolitics of Dark Su...
    HQ Dark Sun map:
    dying-sands.obsidianportal.com/
    Dark Sun Online: Crimson Sands:
    www.myabandonware.com/game/ad...
    www.gamasutra.com/view/featur...
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    MUSIC CREDITS
    Music licensed through Envato Elements:
    Dark Thrilling Background
    Barbarians
    Wasteland
    Music licensed through Epidemic Sound:
    Rune Dale - Desert Mist
    Deskant - As the Rivers Collapse
    Headlund - Misty Land
    Hawea - Thirst
    Dark Suns Wake of the Ravager soundtrack remastered:
    www.reverbnation.com/608582/a...
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    FOOTAGE
    Additional Dark Sun Shattered Lands footage by raekuul:
    • [Dark Sun #1] I'm Spar...
    Additional Dark Sun: Wake of the Ravager gameplay by classiccola:
    • [fin/eng] Dark Sun: Wa...
    Dark Sun: Shattered Lands demo footage by Major Thriftwood:
    • Dark Sun (PC/DOS) "Dem...
    Dark Sun Online: Crimson Sands trailer:
    • Dark Sun Online: Crims...
    SSI demo reel and Star Command gameplay by barbarianbros:
    • Strategic Simulation I...
    • Star Command - video g...
    Computer Bismarck gameplay by OldManBishop:
    • Computer Bismarck Прох...
    Pool of Radiance & Eye of the Beholder gameplay by MajorThriftwood:
    • Eye of the Beholder (P...
    • Pool of Radiance (PC/D...
    Baldur's Gate gameplay by Da' Vane:
    • Let's Play... Baldur's...
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Komentáře • 643

  • @Indigo_Gaming
    @Indigo_Gaming  Před 2 lety +68

    *Get Dark Sun DRM-free* through my GOG affiliate link ► indigogaming.link/DarkSun
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    • @adi6293
      @adi6293 Před 2 lety +6

      Hey man, have you ever played the Gothic series? If so would you like to to a retrospective of those games? Or any other series 😅 I really miss those longer videos 😉😂

    • @Indigo_Gaming
      @Indigo_Gaming  Před 2 lety +8

      @@adi6293 I bought both the first and second on launch, but need to revisit the whole series again for a more in-depth look. I remember Gothic and Arcanum releasing around the same time and innovating on day-night cycles and automated NPCs in great ways that only hit the mainstream later in games like Oblivion.

    • @dualkelly
      @dualkelly Před 2 lety +4

      Dark Sun also had amazing novels behind them. 5 for the main story written by Troy Denning who also designed the table top of dark sun and is a hell of author having his hand in much of halo and star wars novels.

    • @acerking76
      @acerking76 Před 2 lety +4

      I actually helped create one of the patches for shattered lands (patch disk v1.1 on 2 IBM 3.5" floppys), I was on the phone for several hours with a dev and a while later (cant remember if it was a week or a month) i got these floppy's in the mail with patches they created and was on the phone again with him seeing if it fixed the bugs, back then playtesting and fixes where high on the list of priorities of game companies.

    • @acerking76
      @acerking76 Před 2 lety +1

      come to think of it i also did a phone in bug crushing run with a dev on ravager too, a bug or 2 concerning the meeting the giants for the first time.

  • @BardicMonk
    @BardicMonk Před 2 lety +169

    “A mantis-like race that could not use armor.” Said over a picture of one using armor. I love it.

    • @Indigo_Gaming
      @Indigo_Gaming  Před 2 lety +78

      Yeah, the visual disparity is funny. That image was from 4th edition D&D, where armor was allowed. In 2nd edition, Thri-Kreen got a large AC bonus, but could not wear armor on top of that.

    • @JaymeSplendid
      @JaymeSplendid Před 2 lety +14

      @@Indigo_Gaming oh and they are a BEAST to play. I've never played a psionic killing machine with SO MANY ATTACKS in one round before. Christ they are fun to play in arena settings too.

    • @livanbard
      @livanbard Před rokem +1

      Due to sizing 2nd artwork they have mantis like shape were in 4ed they have more armor. You will also notice 4ed stuff have more obsidian and insect caparece stuff going on, while the classic look is more about leather and bone

    • @SerbianSpark19
      @SerbianSpark19 Před rokem

      I mean if you wear clothes that counts as armour

  • @TheAutistWhisperer
    @TheAutistWhisperer Před 2 lety +283

    I just love the world and lore of Dark Sun.

    • @jakoclown4175
      @jakoclown4175 Před 2 lety +9

      Best setting ever

    • @64bitcrafts
      @64bitcrafts Před 2 lety +9

      It's been one of those settings that I love, and have tried a few times to start TRPG games of it with friends, but every time session 1 or 2 comes around, some series of coincidences or scheduling conflicts has put it dead in the water. Drives me nuts.

    • @theviolator793
      @theviolator793 Před 2 lety +9

      Darksun and Shadowrunner. Toril is a close third.

    • @charlesballiet7074
      @charlesballiet7074 Před 2 lety +4

      very based setting

    • @davedogge2280
      @davedogge2280 Před 2 lety +3

      I think there is a D&D 5th edition Campaign Guid, 50 pages of a free PDF that Wizards of The Coast publlished so not quite forgotten.

  • @tatuira93
    @tatuira93 Před 2 lety +82

    Dark Sun Shattered Lands is one of the least covered SSI products and I see no reason as to why it's not considered on the same level as the Gold Box games, just as the Dark Sun setting lives in the shadows of Planescape when it can be just as evocative.
    Glad to see it getting some attention.

    • @jakoclown4175
      @jakoclown4175 Před 2 lety

      Planescape is a scattered mess....tieflings are the lamest ass race I've ever seen

    • @chadstratton4926
      @chadstratton4926 Před 2 lety +4

      The psionics component was ahead of its time in both mechanics and code.

    • @thepoliticalstartrek
      @thepoliticalstartrek Před 2 lety

      I remember playing a late 90s version using the BG engine. I am not sure if it was official.

  • @bakariwolf3835
    @bakariwolf3835 Před rokem +24

    Saddest thing for me. I learned about dark sun and how the world worked. Thought it a great idea for a gritty survival game, also loved the idea of hero's rising up in this dark world to show some hope to people that had none. Yet every table I have ever pitched it at, people just want to be political about it, or want to make fun of it and play some meme character. People either taking it too seriously to the point they are offended or not serious at all so they ruin the mood of the game, no one willing to take a middle ground and enjoy the setting.

    • @Indigo_Gaming
      @Indigo_Gaming  Před rokem +10

      It's sad when people can't accept a fantasy world as escapism, and have to drag real-life baggage into it...

    • @Argroh
      @Argroh Před 6 měsíci +1

      dang straight, I just want to raid some dungeons of remnant civilizations for what matter of fancy trinkets to trade back at the major cities for a decent meal!
      Bloody California Culture wrecked not only D&D, but also MtG.

    • @rustyshackle8000
      @rustyshackle8000 Před 2 měsíci +1

      To me, a more hopeful story us actually perfect for Dark Sun. It's not a grim dark setting, where the bad guys have achieved total victory and there is no hope. In fact, I think hope is one of the setting's main themes. The Sorcerer Kings are not omnipotent. They're petty, greedy, paranoid megalomaniacs, powerful yes, but still mortal. To me, the ideal campaign would follow a ragtag group of slaves, Preservers, and other outcasts forge a grand army of free peoples to cast down the tyranny of the Sorcerer Kings, and return Athas to the people. That's an uplifting story, of how even when things seem hopeless, there's always a light, a chance to make things better.

  • @Toshiro_Mifune
    @Toshiro_Mifune Před 2 lety +191

    oh man, the subject of your videos is always a good surprise, my only gripe is that this one is not 12 hours long. cheers.

  • @ZertusDarkSun
    @ZertusDarkSun Před 2 lety +16

    I'm glad you covered these. I love Dark Sun. Some additional points:
    -Even the "basic" races of Athas are different from their normal fantasy counterparts. For example, elves tend to be very tall, around 7' tall.
    -I recommend SL over WOTR. It's far more polished and stable than it's sequel. It also has superior graphics.

  • @booboo1574
    @booboo1574 Před 2 lety +12

    That Brom art tho. (Chef’s kiss)

    • @Indigo_Gaming
      @Indigo_Gaming  Před 2 lety +2

      It's incredible. I appreciated the art from various games like Diablo II, MageSlayer, Doom, Dark Sun, etc., but never realized they were all done by the same artist!

  • @ethinos2719
    @ethinos2719 Před 2 lety +24

    Dark Sun and Ravenloft were always my favorite D&D settings. 2nd edition had its issues but there was so much good stuff out there with all the splat books TSR put out.

  • @lwlewis007
    @lwlewis007 Před 2 lety +4

    I played and DM’d this setting from ‘93 to ‘98 and it was an absolute favorite among all our friends. The first setting where death was likely, life was brutal, and to survive was a thrill

  • @JavierSalcedoC
    @JavierSalcedoC Před 2 lety +61

    Shattered lands is one of my favorite games of all time. Team creation, spells, portals, loot, everything seemed to be ahead of it's time. Still have the manual. Maybe do Lands of Lore next

    • @Indigo_Gaming
      @Indigo_Gaming  Před 2 lety +6

      Nothing's impossible. Maybe one day!

    • @noop9k
      @noop9k Před 2 lety +5

      Bags stored in bags is one of the things I remember most :D

    • @Aldiggy2000
      @Aldiggy2000 Před 2 lety +3

      That final battle too was so epic, that massive battle

    • @mikeclarke3990
      @mikeclarke3990 Před rokem

      Was the game that made me beg my parents for a PC

  • @PunkerNinetySix
    @PunkerNinetySix Před 2 lety +43

    I'm going to leave you a weird comment (positive though, promise!) on this one. I have been having a rough time, feeling apthetic and a bit lost. Then I catch this documentary and suddenly I'm feeling intrigued and immersed in this game world I previously knew nothing about... I'm not even that far into the video yet! I just felt compelled I suppose.
    If there were a better way than a CZcams comment to articulate the sense of ease that your work gave me the ability to feel today, well I wish I knew what that was because words dont seem to suffice. You've heard comments like this before though: "Thank you this video got me through a rough patch". Maybe you see it, you give it one of those little hearts, maybe comment back, then we go our separate ways and the humble, but no less profound impact your video had on my day sort of fades into the noise. Things like this really matter though and I just hope you will remember that, even though I'm just one in a million, this very feeling of ease could be being felt on a daily basis by the people who watch your content. There's some beautiful magic going on there.
    If you ever get imposter syndrome as a creator or have a rough day of your own, I hope you know that what you do matters.

    • @Indigo_Gaming
      @Indigo_Gaming  Před 2 lety +15

      Sometimes we find comfort in the most unexpected places. Glad to have helped make your day better!

  • @cavalcojj
    @cavalcojj Před 2 lety +6

    Dark Sun is and will always be one of my favorite settings I have ever had the pressure of playing in.

  • @semirrahge
    @semirrahge Před 2 lety +25

    I'm a huge Brom fan and love the Dark Suns art. It's super evocative and implies so much history and context in each piece. Much like the best Warhammer 40k art.
    I've never played either the AD&D or the PC RPGs so I really appreciate this overview! It really seems like the Fallout games weren't quite as groundbreaking as some games journalists and fans (myself included) like to imply.

    • @WyattWillis88
      @WyattWillis88 Před rokem

      Looks like a 1:1 copy of Frank Frazetta artwork

  • @gamingtonight1526
    @gamingtonight1526 Před 2 lety +35

    Dark Sun is STILL a great RPG! For my Birthday today, I just got it on GOG!

  • @nyanko2077
    @nyanko2077 Před 2 lety +164

    One of the best settings of D&D in my opinion. They should revive it in the 5th edition.

    • @Indigo_Gaming
      @Indigo_Gaming  Před 2 lety +31

      I've heard rumors of it getting a 5e revival, but nothing solid. It's a shame they put so much effort into bringing Dark Sun to 4e, when that system was so divisive.

    • @Daredhnu
      @Daredhnu Před 2 lety +38

      Oh god no, I have zero faith that WotC is capable of doing Dark Sun justice in their current iteration, they would defile (pardon the pun) the setting to the point of it being unrecognizable, removing everything from the setting that made it the iconic setting that it is.

    • @DoctorEviloply
      @DoctorEviloply Před 2 lety +33

      No, actually. I don't want current day WotC to have anything to do with Dark Sun. They've proven they don't want anything to do with any "scary" hardcore mechanics or lore. They'd mess it up. I actually used Dark Sun for a 5e campaign recently. If you're creative it really isn't hard to convert specific rules and go from there.

    • @moiseman
      @moiseman Před 2 lety +20

      wotc shoudn't be allowed to touch any setting that is not derived from a cartoon.

    • @noop9k
      @noop9k Před 2 lety +9

      @@Daredhnu Mules and cannibal hobbits.. I wonder how much of this will survive.

  • @BogusMeatFactory
    @BogusMeatFactory Před 2 lety +68

    Still to this day I mourn the loss of the Dark Sun MMORPG made by SSI using the same engine as their games. It is lost to time and further entrenched the NEED to archive and preserve that genre of game.

    • @Indigo_Gaming
      @Indigo_Gaming  Před 2 lety +10

      You can still download the client, but as far as I know, the server-side code was lost in time.

    • @BogusMeatFactory
      @BogusMeatFactory Před 2 lety +4

      @@Indigo_Gaming I was happy to see the client link which you shared. I really hope someone is able to reverse engineer it and get it running again... some day. It means the world that light shines on this game in some way so thank you.

    • @TheUnkow
      @TheUnkow Před 2 lety +3

      If it is mostly client logic, maybe there is also not much need for the original server code.
      There are even some free 2d engines, yes it will take time, but it can be recreated or what is even better ... improved.

    • @davidmuldowney
      @davidmuldowney Před 2 lety +3

      What a waste, if they had put the effort in to another single player title it would still be played today along with the two others instead of on the pile of forgotten mmos.

    • @hamsters7760
      @hamsters7760 Před 2 lety +3

      I was on Dark Sun Online when it went down. RIP :(

  • @P2J2
    @P2J2 Před 2 lety +21

    This is cool, my friends and I were definitely all living that "D&D lifestyle". Each of us took turns DM'ing a campaign, we had one for Forgotten Realms, Dragonlance and Dark Sun. Those were epic times.

    • @ForeverYoungKickboxer
      @ForeverYoungKickboxer Před 2 lety +2

      Lucky for me still have the same table of knuckleheads to play with. We are currently in a Dark Sun campaign now and I am loving it.

    • @douggaudiosi14
      @douggaudiosi14 Před 2 lety

      "DnD lifestyle " aka not showering or getting laid and nerding out in your mamas basement

    • @P2J2
      @P2J2 Před 2 lety

      @@douggaudiosi14 WHAT THE FUCK IS YOUR PROBLEM?

    • @mirceazaharia2094
      @mirceazaharia2094 Před 2 lety

      Gosh, I'm envious of you. Real life ensued and my old group broke apart. I'll be moving to DUNGEONS & DELVERS as my better, non-woke D&D substitute. Once I learn the system, I'll have to find a new gaming community in my town to accept me and my suggestion that they try that game.

  • @MattyStoked
    @MattyStoked Před 2 lety +11

    The triumphant return of Not Forgotten! Missed this mate, and what a great subject to return with.

    • @Indigo_Gaming
      @Indigo_Gaming  Před 2 lety +3

      Eyy! I know you. Nice new brand, and thanks for watching.

  • @Alakazzam09
    @Alakazzam09 Před 2 lety +5

    Oh man, this is super nostalgia for me. Gold box games helped me get through the long, cold northern Michigan winters back in the day. I loved these games as a kid.

  • @Grymyrk
    @Grymyrk Před 2 lety +2

    I played and finished both games recently and they're still great in 2022. I even managed to get my characters from Shattered Lands transferred over to Wake of the Ravager.

  • @kalgonzo148
    @kalgonzo148 Před 2 lety +3

    You set what should be the standard for games journalism. Been a fan for a long time. Proud to see your work thriving.

  • @beanface7408
    @beanface7408 Před 2 lety +1

    Ah, Dark Sun. This is the only DnD worlds I could get my hands on, but I love it so much. I've unfortunately never got the chance to play it, but I loved reading through all the lore.

  • @LittleMushroomGuy
    @LittleMushroomGuy Před 2 lety +7

    I love the dark sun setting, from all the dnd games and settings dark sun always had the best artwork

  • @mattsmechanicalssi5833
    @mattsmechanicalssi5833 Před 2 lety +13

    I couldn't tell you how many hours I spent playing AD&D 2nd Edition. I've been in to computer based RPG's since some of the first PC's as well. Thanks for bringing back some of those great memories I had playing them. Your work is as legendary as the subjects you cover, Sir! o7

  • @ginamcgill7054
    @ginamcgill7054 Před 2 lety +4

    Good grief I love everything about these old school computer rpgs. The gritty and beautiful shrink-wrapped big box art, those glossy little user manuals with their inevitable campaign short story, beautifully illustrated bestiaries and meticulously detailed mechanics guides. The chemical memory of their unboxing....ah! How I miss that. My first ever such memory was 'Times of Lore' - not an SSI product but a very powerful gateway to their games over the course of my childhood. I was otherwise a happy and socially well-adjusted child but my gaming geekhood was forged in that moment.

  • @DrownedInExile
    @DrownedInExile Před 2 lety +2

    I remember Shattered Lands, tons of fun back in the day. I remember my brother would grind human gladiators in the slavepens up to level 7, so they'd get 2 melee attacks and a bunch of health. Then he'd split-class them into more traditionally squishy types, like thieves, clerics, and wizards. Sadly Wake of the Ravager was so buggy as to be unplayable back then.

  • @danieladamczyk4024
    @danieladamczyk4024 Před 2 lety +11

    Classic games may have a simple, sometimes boring gameplay compared to today, but the vibe, setting, music is something that remain unreplaceable. They have more heart and soul put into them.
    Now indie games can deliver similar experinces. Becouse they are a experince, instead a dopamine dispensers like all AAA products.

    • @TheUnkow
      @TheUnkow Před 2 lety +3

      I'd argue the gameplay was better, now in most cases we have just "realistic" graphics, physics and sounds.
      And actually in many of these older games, the non realistic graphics are better because devs had less resources and they used them to only show the important stuff, not the density of the shadow of the player's dagger if he faces East at 5PM.

    • @davidmuldowney
      @davidmuldowney Před 2 lety

      There are still plenty of simple, boring 'AAA' games being released today

    • @danieladamczyk4024
      @danieladamczyk4024 Před 2 lety

      @@davidmuldowney yes, that what i said.

  • @anthonyhernandez7799
    @anthonyhernandez7799 Před 2 lety +3

    Literally just got off a 2 hour lore binge about adnd 2e darksun, so happy to see a vid about the games!

  • @saltyshrimppasta
    @saltyshrimppasta Před rokem +2

    There’s something really charming about those 90’s CRPG’s with pixel graphics and an insane barrier to entry. I need to play more of them.

  • @surlyunicorn9461
    @surlyunicorn9461 Před 2 lety +3

    I’ve played every version of D&D from the Red Box all the up until 4th edition (didn’t care for 4th) and man seeing Pool of Radiance again. That was my first D&D video game. Played the hell out of it on my Commodore 64 as a teenager lol. I also played in Forgotten Realms, Dark Sun, and Ravenloft campaigns. Great video.

  • @georgeharris572
    @georgeharris572 Před 2 lety +8

    I still have the original disks from an SSI collection that contained Shattered lands ... it's such a shame I can't install them from the disks any more. Shattered Lands was the craziest game from that set I had played. This vid really made me miss those days and all the stuff TSR had dropped in book stores.

    • @Justen1980
      @Justen1980 Před 2 lety

      I bought it in 1994 on cd-rom with ravenloft- strahds possession, and al-qadim the genies curse, all 3 games on one cd

  • @PoulWrist
    @PoulWrist Před 2 lety +8

    Played Wake of the Ravager so much in my younger days ❤️

  • @Ghastly_Grinner
    @Ghastly_Grinner Před 2 lety +16

    My favorite D&D setting there is a pretty good game called Vargrus that kind of scratches that Darksun itch

    • @Indigo_Gaming
      @Indigo_Gaming  Před 2 lety +1

      Hmm, I've heard of Vagrus. I'll have to check it out someday.

  • @ethandaley69
    @ethandaley69 Před 2 lety +8

    Wow just as I was lamenting how I'd just about reached the end of my "new content" road on your channel. Very excited to jump in!!
    Thanks again!!

  • @dyabolikalpvp2775
    @dyabolikalpvp2775 Před 2 lety +1

    DArk Sun was absolutely brutal. outside of the major cities that you were not always able to get into it was harsh, always thirsty, land was sparse, hot and would eat at you from your first step outside. Plus there were introductions of psionics which if not kept in check would make campaigns go ape crazy. But thats all assuming you made it through day 1. Most games its a game of hard quests, Dark sun on the other hand was a place where you had major struggles just to get to where you could find work amid all the desert survival, evil defilers, bandits, water conservation to survive. It was awesome.

  • @TimeFlow0
    @TimeFlow0 Před 2 lety +9

    We need a modern Dark Sun game. Great video.

    • @chadstratton4926
      @chadstratton4926 Před 2 lety

      Coinciding with the 5e Expanded Psionics Handbook release. Yes. (Psions receiving subclasses like Seer, Telepath structured like other 5e subclasses? Yes please.)

  • @kphizzle9569
    @kphizzle9569 Před 2 lety +3

    It's always an occasion when Indi drops a video. Fantastic as always.

  • @Aggnog
    @Aggnog Před 2 lety +8

    This game looks lightyears ahead of its time for 1993.

  • @brendono5670
    @brendono5670 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you for this. So many great memories. Would love to see a reboot of darksun!

  • @PaStef37
    @PaStef37 Před 2 lety +4

    Clearly one of the greatest settings created, so much imagination! Where are those kind of creation nowadays? Great video, thanks!

  • @GraveyardTricks
    @GraveyardTricks Před 2 lety +3

    Thank you! For being the only channel I've ever seen to do a video about Dark Sun.

  • @Lightzy1
    @Lightzy1 Před 2 lety +10

    You kidding me? Dark sun is one of the first games I ever played. I was a really young child (like 4 I think?) didn't even read english yet (not from an english language country), and i just fought the arena until I died a million times. I had fun but I was like, "ok so thats a fun game".
    A year later I played it again and figured how to escape the arena, and it was probably the most intense moment in my gaming "career".
    I was playing like %0.5 of the game and had so much fun, imagine how much fun I had with the full game. Man. Such a fun fun fun feeling.
    I love these games and the lore of Athas so much. It's beautiful, all of it.
    The second game wasn't terrible either :P

  • @MilosAndric123
    @MilosAndric123 Před 2 lety +8

    Again, amazing video and a topic my friend!
    Thank you!

  • @solblackguy
    @solblackguy Před 2 lety +116

    If Baldur's Gate 3 winds up being a massive success, I'd love to see Larian try their hands at Dark Sun

    • @bostonmeadhorn4897
      @bostonmeadhorn4897 Před rokem +4

      That would be epic!

    • @Carnefice
      @Carnefice Před rokem +8

      WOTC said they're never making any Dark Sun stuff again because slaves or something.

    • @solblackguy
      @solblackguy Před rokem +13

      @@Carnefice that kind of sucks if it's one of the main reasons. It's not like they're depicting slavery in a positive light. I never got that impression from either the P&P or video games.

    • @Carnefice
      @Carnefice Před rokem +17

      @@solblackguy apparently now slavery can only be mentioned in the context of the Atlantic slave trade. Or something. I don't understand it either, but that was the reason I read

    • @solblackguy
      @solblackguy Před rokem +8

      @@Carnefice yeah, I think I found the article you're referring to about how slavery in Dark Sun's context is problematic. I don't see Conan the Barbarian being cancelled. Hell, there's been like 3 movies about slavery put out in the past couple years and another one around the corner.
      And all this time I thought it was because of Spelljammer

  • @rossdixonellis
    @rossdixonellis Před 2 lety +5

    I played a little bit of SHattered Lands recently. 4 giants! Just bashing everything!
    What a treat, this setting is brutal and cool.

  • @thesummerofmark
    @thesummerofmark Před 2 lety +13

    Fascinating video and topic! I’ve never been super into D&D-related media but I liked how you approached things here. Looking forward to the big project!

  • @CircleOfTheSeptagram
    @CircleOfTheSeptagram Před 2 lety +1

    SL was my first foray into D&D as a kid. I ended up tracking down all the books and tearing through them. What a great world. I have sat in a few D&D campaigns, but seeing the battles animated, even in the pixel jank, was always so much better for me. I wish more games like these two existed, or that content mods for other CRPGs could be used for Athas.
    Thanks for the vid!

  • @benjackman4814
    @benjackman4814 Před 2 lety +3

    I love your vids so much. Your narration, and the epic, legendary worlds you talk about just transport me to that world and make me wanna go on some epic adventure lol I need to play more rpg's I just really suck at them I feel like most "rpg's" nowadays suck there's just nothing like that magical feeling of those old school rpg's

  • @goterdamerung
    @goterdamerung Před 2 lety +5

    I just love Dark Sun setting and i still run AD&D2e campaigns set in Athas. Great video

  • @georgemackay5735
    @georgemackay5735 Před 2 lety +33

    I actually just finished Shattered Lands. Amazing setting and style, but it's seriously hampered by bugs and an inconsistent difficulty curve (i.e. it's extremely easy right up until it's nearly impossible).

    • @BogusMeatFactory
      @BogusMeatFactory Před 2 lety +7

      Yeah I definitely came across that difficulty increase in my many playthroughs. A lot of ot stems from my party makeup and using their tools properly. The game gets super easy when you have spell casters that are using their spells properly. It is a tough game! As for the bugs... oh yeah... there are a lot of bugs. Moreso in wake of the ravager.

    • @noop9k
      @noop9k Před 2 lety +4

      Please, at the end my enemies were just drowned in area effect spells :)

    • @moonooze6171
      @moonooze6171 Před 2 lety

      Took me a few times to get the right team to beat it.

  • @VtheWanderer
    @VtheWanderer Před 2 lety +1

    I have very foggy memories of seeing my neighbour's older brother playing Wake of the Ravager on his PC and of being entranced by the cover. My dad was big heavy metal buff, so remember loving everything about the game, despite knowing nothing about it. But I've completely forgotten about it over the years, until finding your video. Great stuff, you got yourself a new subscriber.

  • @ColinTimmins
    @ColinTimmins Před 2 lety +1

    I just loved Dark Suns Shattered Lands as a kid. The atmosphere was just awesome!

  • @VHSMikey
    @VHSMikey Před 2 lety +7

    Darksun brought me and my friends so much joy over the years.

  • @Supernaught00
    @Supernaught00 Před 2 lety +1

    How nostalgic! Thank you very much for making this video. I played the first Dark Sun game when I was a kid and I loved it.

  • @Bleusilences
    @Bleusilences Před 2 lety +2

    I played this in the early 2000s, this was definitely a proto-Bulder's Gate game.

  • @GrimDarkHalfOff
    @GrimDarkHalfOff Před 2 lety +2

    This came out just as I was learning about the series for the first time. Sweet!

  • @bodaciouschad
    @bodaciouschad Před 2 lety +1

    Good timing on having a Dark Sun video out. Zee Bashew mentioned the setting in his latest animated spellbook on Hold Person, so there will be alot of traffic interested in the setting.

  • @betatronhammer7156
    @betatronhammer7156 Před 2 lety +3

    Production value is above and beyond. This is DUNE medieval metal. I want this shit in modern Video Game Awesomeness.

  • @shlazzargh
    @shlazzargh Před 2 lety +1

    I remember playing in a Dark Sun campaign all those years ago. Played my very favorite character -- a Thri-kreen named Chryyyx. One of the things I loved about him was that he could grapple someone with 2 arms while shredding them with fist blades on 2 other arms and _still_ get a bite attack. Unfortunately, he died due to a poison trap and my party carved him up to give each of them better armor. Ah, well...

  • @betatronhammer7156
    @betatronhammer7156 Před 2 lety

    The ATMOSPHERE of the first few minutes of this video is chillng. Well done. ART.

  • @andynonimuss6298
    @andynonimuss6298 Před 2 lety +1

    It's the artistry of BROM that really made Dark Sun come alive.

  • @dracos24
    @dracos24 Před 2 lety +1

    3:59 No joke. Reminded me of an encounter the DM intended us to run from, and my half-giant pugilist one-shot the creature with his fist.

  • @ShidenByakko
    @ShidenByakko Před 2 lety +2

    Whoa man I **LOVED** Dark Sun: Wake of The Ravager! As a die-hard D&D fanatic and role-player, played this game to death (pun intended) but could never finish it, due to the numerous bugs preventing me from getting/doing the necessary requirements. Then the various PC(s) I had died at various timing(s)... Might wanna dig this up again, one day. Keep up the fantastic work, love these vids, keep them coming!

  • @Laozi_Sparta
    @Laozi_Sparta Před 6 dny +1

    Back in the days I used to play d&d quite a lot. Despite Forgotten Realms being the most popular d&d setting, my favorite was always Ravenloft with the Dark Sun being just second. The big issue was that in my country neither RL nor DS books were ever translated to the domestic language. This made FR far more popular than the other two settings and it wasn't easy to find a team to play the game together with. That's why i always say, not knowing English language make you semiliterate these days. There is so much stuff that you don't have access to.

  • @ArabianRazumZar
    @ArabianRazumZar Před 2 lety +2

    Glad the series is back !!!!

  • @Banefane
    @Banefane Před 2 lety +1

    When I first played the first Dark Sun game, I never really understood the rules.
    I learned the symbols and tried them on enemies to see what happened.
    Never underestimate the D&D rules for beginners.
    It takes time to learn them.

  • @Pty23
    @Pty23 Před 2 lety

    So many fond memories of playing these games. Thanks for helping me re-live these classics!

  • @kleezer1
    @kleezer1 Před 2 lety +2

    I wish art and media was as metal as it was in the 90s and 2000s. I miss it so much seeing how much it influenced culture like movies, video games, and table tops, etc. most notably for me though, Blizzard games and warhammer

  • @noway6652
    @noway6652 Před 2 lety

    Always love hearing more tabletop RPG media spinoffs and media, and as usual your videos are engaging and well produced, can't wait to see more! I always want to give feedback on what I'd love to see, but you've made content with so much I like already that I have a hard time thinking of anything. I'd say keep up the melding of tabletop and video game content! Both are things I love hearing more about, and seeing others get exposed to these things makes me happy to see.

  • @destero8853
    @destero8853 Před 2 lety +1

    Everyone simply has to thank Brom for his masterpieces he has thrown into the mix to make this world possible!

  • @AragornV
    @AragornV Před rokem +1

    Hey, I only just came across your channel after your insanely high effort Diablo 3 video and now you manage to hit on a major nostalgia nerve with Dark Sun! Knocking it out of the park my dude.

  • @kajetanwojnarowski2693

    Not forgotten is my favorite series from you guys! Thank you for your amazing work!

  • @Pixeleyes
    @Pixeleyes Před 2 lety +11

    I'm still super confused as to why Hasbro isn't trying to make a mixed media D&D universe with shows, video games and movies. The property they own has the exact same insane potential as anything Marvel has ever produced. We deserve several shows and games set in the Realms, Athas, Ravenloft and Dragonlance. It is absolutely bonkers that they're just sitting on all that lore.

    • @wanderdragon1075
      @wanderdragon1075 Před 2 lety +6

      I’m kinda glad they aren’t. I don’t trust Hasbro to do it well, even with the potential

    • @jstuckless
      @jstuckless Před 2 lety +1

      Pretty sure they're apprehensive after the massive bomb that was the D&D Movie.

    • @powerist209
      @powerist209 Před 2 lety +2

      @@jstuckless Which is even odd that they go for "start from scratch" rather than Forgotten Realms, which is already multi-media and had many materials to adapt.

    • @chadstratton4926
      @chadstratton4926 Před 2 lety

      1. Ravenloft- a darker 13 Ghosts of Scooby Doo style, using the Lords/Realms as chapters. 2. Dark Sun- in the style of Pirates of Dark (No) Water. (Eta: Realms has a political continuity situation- despite being the exemplar of leaving races-inherently-evil in the dust with Drizzt and Elistriae(sp?), they have Drow, and the Time of Troubles Pantheon changes are one mouthy FB fundie away from stupid non-troversy. DL? Doesnt have sufficient elaborated world beyond the core epic narrative to avoid tripping over own laces. Imho)

    • @mirceazaharia2094
      @mirceazaharia2094 Před 2 lety

      @@chadstratton4926 Maybe in another 5 to 10 years, when the woke plague has been crushed into utter nothingness, and there's a chance that we could get stuff that's apolitical, good quality and true to the source material.
      Until then?
      Not a chance.

  • @joshuaadams3205
    @joshuaadams3205 Před 2 lety +4

    Multi class was covered, but dont forget humans can dual class, this is the true min/max route if you stagger levels and class changes properly.

    • @julesmasseffectmusic
      @julesmasseffectmusic Před 2 lety

      Ranger mages.
      Cast in full plate once your second class rose above your first.

  • @poeterritory
    @poeterritory Před 2 lety +3

    Wonder why this was never released in Australia. It's the kind of game I'd have snapped up as soon as it would have appeared on the shelf.

    • @iansrven3023
      @iansrven3023 Před 2 lety +1

      I played both in Australia, missed crimson sand though. I'm pretty sure I bought in a physical shop

    • @Indigo_Gaming
      @Indigo_Gaming  Před 2 lety +2

      I mean it's practically an Australian Outback simulator, it would have sold like hotcakes, I'd imagine.

    • @chadthundercock3440
      @chadthundercock3440 Před rokem

      Setting hit too close to home

  • @kiljoy001
    @kiljoy001 Před 2 lety +1

    Dark sun has by far one of the best & compelling lore for AD&D. Esp the psionics combat!

  • @noone6812
    @noone6812 Před 2 lety

    Great video. Dark Sun was my favorite AD&D setting as a kid, and these two games were my first two PC games. XD Great times.

  • @Malentor
    @Malentor Před 2 lety +1

    These games sparked my love for Dark Sun and d&d in general. Love them!

  • @ghostwood9174
    @ghostwood9174 Před 2 lety

    Great video! The nostalgic feels were heavy on this one.

  • @starhalv2427
    @starhalv2427 Před 2 lety +2

    A pretty interesting setting for a similiar D&D campaign of what one could expect in Dark Sun, could be based on a video game "Kenshi". I plan on making custom races and minicampaign based on it.

  • @Uriseph
    @Uriseph Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks for introducing me to this setting. I love it.

  • @andrewwarwick6145
    @andrewwarwick6145 Před 2 lety

    Dark Sun is one of the best fantasy settings ever created - and not just for gaming. Some of the books and later supplements could be ignored but the initial setting and lore was simply amazing.

  • @oltraggiograz868
    @oltraggiograz868 Před 2 lety +1

    Man, thank you so much. Great voice, great script and video. Support from Italy

  • @JokerPW84
    @JokerPW84 Před rokem +1

    Not only you make great videos, but I LOVE your voice in them! You have a great control of it! Congrats! ;)

  • @Havik092
    @Havik092 Před rokem +1

    I remember reading the Prism pendad books, really capture the magic of the Dark Sun setting

  • @zagobelim
    @zagobelim Před 2 lety +3

    Loved it, man! More like this, please!

  • @DustinBarlow8P
    @DustinBarlow8P Před 2 lety +1

    I just got the last novel they made for this setting. Honestly this setting is so Dark it makes Fallout and Max Max look like Oz from the Wizard of Oz.
    Giant mutated Eldritch abominations roaming the deserts, No metal so you have to fight with bone.
    The Sun literally takes up the entire sky, and it gets Inferno Hot every day.
    In an attempt to bring water in from another plane of existence, the Sorcerers messed something up and there was a Magic explosion that took an entire island out. They did get a lot of water though, and now the storms they get are more like Ultra Hurricanes with water ripping around 500 mph. Like a tornado hit a knife factory. Whenever there is a storm in the world everybody has to run for cover, or you are 100% dead if you get caught out.
    Oh and the Great Ocean is a giant poison swamp of mud and rot.
    Just an all around happy place....

  • @Paul_McSeol
    @Paul_McSeol Před 2 lety

    Really great video. Thanks! Always loved that setting.

  • @ryecatcher25
    @ryecatcher25 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you SO MUCH for this video. Really took me back. Youre right....D and D WAS a lifestyle back then. You got a new subscriber.

  • @Agiranto
    @Agiranto Před 2 lety +1

    Mad Max Meets Dungeons & Dragons sounds very intriguing

  • @theonenamedjoe9220
    @theonenamedjoe9220 Před 2 lety +3

    Do you edit yourself, because that was an incredible introduction, loved the way it was cut. Glad to see the Not Forgotten series making a return, my favorite!!!! Always so illuminating!

  • @MithrilRoshi
    @MithrilRoshi Před 2 lety +1

    Oh lord.. Please do tabletop system reviews like this. It is AMAZING

  • @phuturephunk
    @phuturephunk Před 2 lety

    I loved, LOVED these books when I was a kid back in the early 90's. It was such a unique setting. I could never get my computer to play the games though at the time. I loved the setting though. I loved the idea that magic was ultimately sapping the entire world of its life energy and the outcomes from that.

  • @Bardengraf1
    @Bardengraf1 Před 2 lety

    Love that this game still gets love to this day hope to see a Darklands review on this channel someday as well.

  • @jabbrewoki
    @jabbrewoki Před 2 lety

    Awesome. I played a little Dark Sun, but was unaware of the video games, not having a computer in the house back then. Brom has such a unique style, although people have borrowed from it since then, some of his color blending, but he is still unique in design and originality.

  • @PainCausingSamurai
    @PainCausingSamurai Před rokem +1

    My cousin gave his copy of shattered lands to me because he didn't have the manual and therefore couldn't get the password to leave the gladiator arena. The password changes to a different word every time you try the sewer access, and I was able to guess that one was "water". Had a lot of fun with the game after that, even if I never really understood the mechanics.

  • @suhfee
    @suhfee Před 2 lety +2

    love the production quality on this

  • @bsmooth5543
    @bsmooth5543 Před rokem

    This was my fave game when it came out. I also got it again 10 or so years back and played again. Still one of my faves ever

  • @CultoftheCyberSkull
    @CultoftheCyberSkull Před 2 lety +4

    10:18: Like a what now? What's that?

    • @Indigo_Gaming
      @Indigo_Gaming  Před 2 lety +3

      Maybe you can check the Codex of Ultimate Wisdom, whatever that is...