College Athletes Are Dominating The Pros... And It's Not Even Close

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  • čas přidán 4. 06. 2024
  • This week in COLLEGE track & field... the 2024 SEC conference championships happened. And it's by far the best sprinting we've seen all year. College kids are just better.
    00:00 Intro
    00:26 Lyston 10.91
    01:08 Oghenebrume 9.99
    01:32 Orogot 19.75
    02:14 McKenzie Long 22.03
    03:20 Pryce 49.32
    04:11 Morales-Williams 44.05
    04:54 Extras
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Komentáře • 111

  • @supernoodles908
    @supernoodles908 Před 22 dny +189

    Sorry but it's almost like the pros are trying to peak for the Olympics rather than mid may. These athletes peaked for the NCAA and the pros for paris 2024. That's just how it goes

    • @dcole4741
      @dcole4741 Před 22 dny +12

      NCAA athletes make Olympic teams so that excuse is not that valid

    • @sev9258
      @sev9258 Před 22 dny +16

      Yeah but these college athletes have pretty much burnt themselves out by the conference championships and are still running qualifying times.

    • @kc5466
      @kc5466 Před 22 dny +19

      @@dcole4741what do they do at the Olympics? It’s mostly the pros that medal at the championships

    • @redravenrages6321
      @redravenrages6321 Před 22 dny +5

      It still doesn’t change the fact how the results are INSANE. Olympics or not!

    • @vaughnlacour9603
      @vaughnlacour9603 Před 22 dny +13

      @@sev9258They’re still fast but the pros will be faster come Olympic Time. The majority of the collegiate athletes probably won’t make the Olympic team or medal at the Olympics. Maybe a few but not a lot

  • @mariooliva8967
    @mariooliva8967 Před 22 dny +15

    this man is doing god's work for the track&field community without favoring any particular event. thank you

  • @Elliottklassen
    @Elliottklassen Před 22 dny +10

    This isn’t anything new at all, and it definitely isn’t a problem. Of all world class 100m performances (sub 10.1 for men and 11.1 for women), less than 13% have occurred prior to May 14th, and only 13 have been sub 9.90 for the men. Compare that to June, July, and August, which make up 23%, 24%, and 26% of sub 10.10, and have 69, 52, and 76 sub 9.90 performances, respectively. We’re not even close to being in the “middle of the season” like you said. Heck, there was even snow on the ground outside my house two weeks ago.

    • @Elliottklassen
      @Elliottklassen Před 22 dny +2

      An interesting fact: the true “middle” of the season for the men’s 100m - with 49.94% of sub 10.10 performances occurring before it - is July 5th. Though, even then, less than 40% of sub 9.90s have occurred by that point, so it could still be argued that the true middle of the season is even later, depending on the quality of performance being used as a benchmark. July 22 is the middle of season for sub 9.90 performances. It gets pushed back even further as the threshold gets raised. August 6-12 is the middle for 9.80, for example.

    • @broadneydangerfield
      @broadneydangerfield Před 22 dny

      @@Elliottklassen Excellent post!

    • @Elliottklassen
      @Elliottklassen Před 22 dny

      @@broadneydangerfield Thanks!

  • @MR.CLEAN777
    @MR.CLEAN777 Před 22 dny +27

    i just jumped 6’1 and won regionals first year jumping now i’m going to states i think i can honestly jump 6’5 love your videos keep talking about high jump and jumps in general love your vids

  • @davidv1376
    @davidv1376 Před 22 dny +12

    lol at the jab at trp at the end.
    Hype video once again

  • @vincent7674
    @vincent7674 Před 22 dny +15

    Thank you once again Jumpman for spoiling us with content , glad to see how fast you're growing after being here for a while

  • @Hensley_Jb
    @Hensley_Jb Před 22 dny +10

    The pros arent at the same stage in training. College track is improving and this intandem with their earlier championship season makes them faster at the moment….until the beast come out😈

    • @JumpmanTF
      @JumpmanTF  Před 21 dnem +1

      When it happens, you know ill be jumping ships! Hahahha

  • @speedyt1538
    @speedyt1538 Před 22 dny +8

    The national 300m record for HS Boys was shattered over the weekend by Vance Nilsson, he ran 34.83 for AZ State finals.

  • @tadaiyoradima
    @tadaiyoradima Před 22 dny +7

    The TRP jab at the end lmaooo

  • @khumokwezimashapa2245
    @khumokwezimashapa2245 Před 22 dny +14

    0:54 OH NAH 💀
    You better hope Johnson doesn't see this video 😂😂

  • @AllInTheGame01
    @AllInTheGame01 Před 22 dny +5

    Congrats to SR Mckenzie Long for defending her SEC Title, has developed a good rivalry with FR JaMeesia Ford who equalled Allyson Felix's US U20 Record which was done at altitude in Mexico City, so that's really impressive as she goes #2 all-time on the WU20 200m list! Given her 11.13/22.21/50.81 PBs, crazy to think that next yr as a 20yr old Sophomore, could be looking at a sub 11/22/50s combo sprinter! Even if JaMeesia doesn't make the individual 200m Team @Olympic Trials, hope USATF is brave enough to select her for at least the Mixed 4x4 Pool like they rightly did with Abby in the W4x4 Pool in '22 given the amount of impressive sub 50s splits she's run this year as a Freshman! Kaylyn Brown is another quarter-miler I hope gets selected for that pool as well!
    Congrats Tarsis Orogot - #3 all-time NCAA with his 19.75 win, M200m is shaping up to be one of the events of the year both in the NCAA & Pros! Well done to Wanya McCoy for good performances in both 100/200m. What a W400m race; Nickisha joint #2 JAM all-time, Kaylyn #8 US all-time, Amber #3 GBR all-time & Aaliyah #24 US all-time! Arkansas also had Rosey Effiong finish in 5th place, the way her left arm cuts across her body when she runs needs to be addressed. In the M400m, both CAN & NGR have got a couple of special talents on their hands in CMW & 17yr old Samuel Ogazi respectively! Was a shame re what happened to talented all-rounder Rachel Glenn in the W400mH, been worried about something like that happening with the way Arkansas tends to overwork their athletes esp Rachel Glenn & their quarter-milers like they did Britton Wilson last yr :(

  • @briangibson94
    @briangibson94 Před 22 dny +5

    Jump man I didn’t know you also knew Michael Johnson wasn’t hurt when he pulled up in that 150. Lol

  • @louiswalusimbi8006
    @louiswalusimbi8006 Před 22 dny +6

    They look great but the pros are gonna obliterate them at trials because the former will peak later

  • @barackosama3569
    @barackosama3569 Před 22 dny +2

    I hope the pros will go fast in the summer so that every month there is another hype. The summer olympics will probably will be spectacular anyways. It is true that in may 2012, 6 performances below 9.9 but that was peak sprinting. I think especially the Paris 200m will be the most historic 200m race ever. They hopefully peak at the right time

    • @broadneydangerfield
      @broadneydangerfield Před 22 dny

      Yeah, I get the feeling we might be looking at our best chance of seeing anyone come close to Bolt's 19.19 200m time. Not saying it will happen, but many times someone like Lyles is very close, but only pushed by maybe one other sprinter. I'm hoping for a crowded final, in which multiple runners are on pace for 19.5 or better. A lot to ask for, but I'm a 200m fanatic and so, ask I will lol!

  • @clone_wick_f
    @clone_wick_f Před 22 dny +3

    Love the TRP jab at the end lmao

  • @actual_random
    @actual_random Před 22 dny +4

    1:20 I'm dead😭😭

  • @Thermolizer
    @Thermolizer Před 22 dny +1

    Keep up the grind, becoming one of the best T&F youtubers 💪 If Orogot can get his raw speed up to sub 10 level he can go 19.5 and challenge for medals in Paris

  • @Alberts_Stuff
    @Alberts_Stuff Před 22 dny +1

    Your content is the best bro 👊🏼

  • @cattycats4
    @cattycats4 Před 22 dny +2

    5:13 I said wtf at exactly the same time hahaha 9.88 is astonishing

  • @Tiamatria1
    @Tiamatria1 Před 16 dny

    The improvements in training and specialization of events are finally going to start showing that “peak athletic age” is probably earlier than we think. 17-22

  • @grimreality451
    @grimreality451 Před 22 dny +1

    Heck, high school sprinters like Christian Miller are starting to dominate the pros as well.

  • @AthleticsEditz
    @AthleticsEditz Před 21 dnem

    Hey I see you saw the Phoebe Gill thing I mentioned in your last video (either thst or you already knew about it lmao), love the MORE than weekly vids Jumpman!

    • @JumpmanTF
      @JumpmanTF  Před 20 dny +1

      I saw it in a few places haha. Hard for a result like that not to get atttention!

    • @AthleticsEditz
      @AthleticsEditz Před 19 dny

      @@JumpmanTF Of course! Can’t wait for this weeks video!

  • @niyrelabujohn8638
    @niyrelabujohn8638 Před 22 dny +1

    all i have to say is DAMN SON

  • @Tom-tv6qp
    @Tom-tv6qp Před 21 dnem +1

    hahaa it will be junior pro that goes on to sink Elaine @10.54 first not a Collegiate. Next we will have high schoolers flogging @10.8's @10-7's in a basic conditioning program. The Volume of racing at college level is insane! Burn out will be massive on going issue.

  • @doudleyJ
    @doudleyJ Před 9 dny

    Godson Oghenebrune is him, the name said it all

  • @giteausuperstar
    @giteausuperstar Před 22 dny +2

    Lol did you know the college season and pro season run at different times?

    • @JumpmanTF
      @JumpmanTF  Před 22 dny +1

      Did you know its mid may and a high schooler still has the 100m world lead? No excuses.

  • @kermitzefrog1163
    @kermitzefrog1163 Před 22 dny +2

    SMH didn't even mention the 9.98 out of the Mac conference meet

  • @slipperyslope3912
    @slipperyslope3912 Před 17 dny

    Pulled a Michael Johnson, but was actually hurt. 🤣🤣🤣

  • @NelleBligh333
    @NelleBligh333 Před 22 dny

    I'm starting to wonder if we aren't overly-obsessed with times, maybe due to the bonuses given at DL for breaking WR and the use of wavelights and pacers in everything now except the Olympics and world champs. There's more to racing at elite level, it's not just about peaking physically, it's also about mental preparation and controlling their nerves when lining up against world record breakers and champions in the big leagues.

    • @JumpmanTF
      @JumpmanTF  Před 22 dny

      A little, but unlike other sports, thats kind of what track is about. Its a numbers game.

    • @NelleBligh333
      @NelleBligh333 Před 22 dny

      @@JumpmanTF But so many elite track athletes prefer ann Olympic gold medal over a win at WC or even a WR so for them at least winning the Olympics is more important than fast times now. Fans are different, we want times!

  • @zyryx1793
    @zyryx1793 Před 22 dny

    Its crazy to compare a diamond league race and college race.Diamond League races are all over the world so u have to factor in jet lag a long flight were u are seated very long not ur normal bed food and so and so these are all things that can change ur performance because ur not in ur normal habitat.For these college meets they have a max of 4 hours travel time are still in the same country and timezone huge factors that determine if u go as fast or faster as in training at ur hometrack or slower

    • @JumpmanTF
      @JumpmanTF  Před 22 dny +1

      And college students train around 40+ hours of classes and study, while also travelling around the country for meets. Often training at 5am then after classes. Harder to be a student by far

    • @zyryx1793
      @zyryx1793 Před 21 dnem

      @@JumpmanTF Why do the mojority of the college athletes who sign a contract after college are getting worse results in pro programs then if its harder to be a student?

    • @zyryx1793
      @zyryx1793 Před 21 dnem

      @@JumpmanTF also the studying and there classes are put to there liking so they can train when its best for them

  • @awesomedude3247
    @awesomedude3247 Před 21 dnem

    i know you saw vance nillson 34 in the 300 hurdles

  • @Astro2024
    @Astro2024 Před 22 dny

    Hyping up a 10.09 lmao. I'm sure Tebogo who just ran 43.4 at world relays and broke the 300m record, Kenny Bednarek, and shericka jackson who starts racing this weekend are scared xD

    • @JumpmanTF
      @JumpmanTF  Před 22 dny

      10.09 by a student with literally 0 money backing him? Thats most countries 100m national records.

  • @surreal_feelins
    @surreal_feelins Před 15 dny

    We not gon talk about 2.30 in the big 10 championships???

  • @christof123
    @christof123 Před 22 dny

    Pro track athletes don't get paid enough which is why many college athletes can compete.

  • @stefanoviviani6064
    @stefanoviviani6064 Před 22 dny +2

    Please don't go the Total Running Production's way (I can't bear listening to the channel anymore) clickbaiting and hyperbolic story-telling: students' season peak differently than pro's who are preparing for the Olympics, and I'm sure you know that. Your content is treasure, don't waste it!

    • @duncanrobertson6472
      @duncanrobertson6472 Před 22 dny

      6:08

    • @broadneydangerfield
      @broadneydangerfield Před 22 dny +2

      It sucked to unsubscribe to TRP, but felt so good when I did it last year. Every post is hyperbole and clickbait. They quickly became "the boy who cried wolf" and I just expected everything to be a lie or hyped up.

    • @pugsnhogz
      @pugsnhogz Před 22 dny +1

      @@broadneydangerfield TRP also does the lamest analysis. Like learn to comment with something other than "these were the splits. wow! those are fast splits"

    • @broadneydangerfield
      @broadneydangerfield Před 22 dny +1

      @@pugsnhogz Hahaha! They really do think breaking down splits makes them top-tier detectives haha!

    • @stefanoviviani6064
      @stefanoviviani6064 Před 21 dnem

      @@broadneydangerfield Yeh and that's unfortunate because otherwise the content and the quality is great. But as you, I coudn't stand it anymore.

  • @Sough
    @Sough Před 22 dny +1

    Why is it "a problem"? its interesting, but?

  • @cows543
    @cows543 Před 19 dny

    “Cusa” 💀💀💀, just so you know that’s the Conference USA, people usually say C USA when talking about it

    • @JumpmanTF
      @JumpmanTF  Před 19 dny

      Haha cheers, still learning. ncaa so confusing for someone not from the us haha.

    • @cows543
      @cows543 Před 19 dny

      @@JumpmanTF haha no worries, I’m from here and have no idea what any of the conferences that aren’t like the top 10 are

  • @Laljack564
    @Laljack564 Před 22 dny

    Go college athletes. Big pay coming soon.

  • @Dentsun4228
    @Dentsun4228 Před 22 dny

    one word....Performance Enhancing Drugs.

  • @hakuakua3020
    @hakuakua3020 Před 22 dny

    Then we most get to the US trails they get smoked and dont run anywhere near these times.

    • @JumpmanTF
      @JumpmanTF  Před 22 dny

      Different this time i rekon. Ill be keeping count.

  • @robertmcgee4050
    @robertmcgee4050 Před 19 dny

    When is one of them women going to figure out they can run faster without 3 pounds of hair bouncing around on their head?

  • @hovhyhov
    @hovhyhov Před 22 dny

    do they drug test in college?

    • @gustaaf1892
      @gustaaf1892 Před 22 dny

      Haha, that did occur to me as well when I wondered at what age they go on the gear.

    • @hovhyhov
      @hovhyhov Před 22 dny +1

      @@gustaaf1892 I’ve been really skeptical of track results post pandemic because the jump in performances over the last three seasons across the board from high school to the pros feels very 1980’s

    • @gustaaf1892
      @gustaaf1892 Před 22 dny

      @@hovhyhov I've always been sceptical, but when during the late and post pandemic period athletes started to improve by huge margins and some in the mid 30s started to run PBs it was obvious that the virtually zero testing due to travel restrictions had given athletes licence to take PEDs at the levels that were standard in the 80s. The Tokyo men's 400mhurdles final was probably the most obvious piece of evidence of that.

  • @RANDOMZBOSSMAN1
    @RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 Před 22 dny +1

    5:42 these 2000s kids are something else that’s all I can say lol
    GB building up a good 800m women stable 🫡
    And she would be doing her A Levels here in the UK (she would be either Junior or Senior year HS in the USA)

  • @cookielover1018TM
    @cookielover1018TM Před 22 dny

    The College athletes will be worn out and peaked before the Olympics they rarely make it into the finals at the Olympics

    • @JumpmanTF
      @JumpmanTF  Před 21 dnem

      While true, i feel its a special year :)

  • @michaeldanvers7286
    @michaeldanvers7286 Před 22 dny

    let's be honest 💉💉

  • @nc_aravindan
    @nc_aravindan Před 22 dny +1

    They are not racing vs the Pros. How can you say they are dominating ? By comparing times ran in different events over different surfaces across different countries, climates, wind etc ?
    If they do the same vs Pros in a race both run together, then they are "dominating".
    "College kids are just better" .. its like comparing a shark and monkey and saying the monkey is better at climbing trees. Both are not doing the same thing.
    Unsubscribed.

    • @broadneydangerfield
      @broadneydangerfield Před 22 dny +4

      Yep! Besides them being on different schedules, there is the element of true head-to-head competition, which tends to bring out the psychological factors. I remember destroying everyone in high school meets where I knew the next fastest person had a slower PR than me in an event. The confidence you gain from knowing you're supposed to win is wondrous. I'd set a PR in so many of these races. Whenever I went head-to-head with someone more my speed, it was a battle, and my times would sometimes be much slower than in less competitive races.
      Now, of course, not everyone is gonna perform the same in these sort of scenarios, but I am never surprised when a college athlete who, say, ran a 19.7 200m faces off against a pro who's only run 20.0 in the current season, and loses to this pro. The psychology of the sport is a really big deal.

    • @JumpmanTF
      @JumpmanTF  Před 21 dnem

      I respect it, more so leaderboards are being dominated rn.
      Ik what a lot of you are saying, but im going off my intuition, i think this year is going to suprise us. Especially the mens 100m.