I use it primarily for stills and this camera is almost perfect: full frame, ibis, 2 card slots, great grip, access to Z lenses, etc. I occasionally use it for videos of the kids and its good enough
I am a still photographer. The Z5 is simply outstanding. I have taken my best outdoor shots ever with the Z5. You just have to know your camera's limitations and how to use it. What is critical is the glass. Nikon glass is terrific.
Just got mine. It is smaller, lighter and tighter than the full size Z6ii, but still can use all my Z primes and zooms. It will probably become my everyday carry and sometimes a back-up to my Z6ii. Thanks for posting your Z5 videos.
I use mine as an everyday carry. It’s great have stowed away when u just need a camera. If you pair it with a good lens too it creates some amazing images.
@@RalphMayhewPhotography I took a handful of existing light images/pictures with it last night. I used the Z 85 mm 1.8. Also took some with the Z 20 mm 1.8 and the Z 35 mm 1.8. I liked them a lot! Just like its cousin the Z 6ii, this is a low light BEAST!
Even if the processor is Expeed 6 doesn't mean it's the same binning. Even processors from the same wafer are not created equally. Some are ok, some are worse some are excellent. Depending on their flaws and how hot they get they might be able to process full sensor signal or not. Obviously they're not mad to use the higher binned processor for Z5, they're using it for better cameras and the ones that can't do full sensor readout are used for mid/lower tier cameras. That's the reason they first roll out the high end cameras, they sort the good parts, build the expensive stuff, sell it, then the parts that can't get that high performance are used for lower tier cameras. It's working the same with desktop/laptop/mobile devices cpus and gpus and pretty much everything. Also I'm pretty sure that the sensor doesn't even have full sensor readout for 4k so even if you slap a Z6 image processor the sensor will not be able to feed the data. I mean even the Z6 sensor and processor is used to it's upper limits, they're literally squeezing everything they can from the hardware.
Mate that is absolutely fascinating. I had no idea. Wow. Learnt heaps from that comment. Thanks so much for putting it in the mix. That’s why I love this community. Much appreciated.
I found your channel bc I was curious the Z5. You've hit every pro and con perfectly and I believe im sold on it now. Coming from a D5300 this will be a nice upgrade. You've gained another subscriber! 🤙🤟
Limitations or not, still looks like a great camera. I'm not sure you can go wrong nowadays but great information here mate for anyone having trouble deciding. Hope you are well and keeping safe!
@@RalphMayhewPhotography Back to being the epicenter on the entire planet right now. Florida has had 34,000 NEW cases in the last two days. No lockdowns, no mandates. Our governor says it's your choice to mask or vaccinate. Unbelievable ignorance. Here at my home, we are all double vaxxed, never stopped wearing our masks, and continue to social distance. And happy to do so to protect others and ourselves. But should have stayed in West Virginia, hardly ran into another soul there.
Wow man. That’s intense. Cannot believe the choices governments have made to put the dollar over people lives. It’s so disgusting. Glad you and yours are safe though mate 👍
just bought a Z5, and also $180 FTZ, almost all of the limitations you note are acceptable for me, especially since I rarely shoot video, I do shoot motorsports so at the start of a race 4pfs is rare poor, but I do have a D500 for that You're closing shots were spectacular! Very nice, what is your preferable mode for landscapes Thanks
All the Z cameras share the same EVF resolution although maybe not Z50 but full frames yes. Z5 shares older but still commendable D750 sensor and it did similar in live view. Anyways check menu settings for “apply settings to live view” toggle on/off to see if that makes it better worse at night. Also the older sensor type has a slower readout speed and maybe skipping lines in low light to give you that look. Just my findings over time working with my Z6ii and trying mates Z5’s. To be fair modern cameras just rip compared to back in the day, features/AF/noise are pretty dam good 👍
Josh you're a legend. Thanks for the comments mate. Great to learn from your insights and experience. My research led me to believe that the only different in Z5 and Z6 sensor is that the Z6 is illuminated on the back side. But you're saying the Z5 sensor is much older in its design?
@@RalphMayhewPhotography From all of my digging around and also personal experiences with a D750 for awhile yea it seems to be a refactored or mildly updated version of that sensor in the current Z5’s with a higher ISO level and phase detect AF, a great way for Nikon to lower the price in comparison to the Z6/Z7’s but still keeping it current with AF and standard mirrorless feature sets. I guess there is only so far you can push old tech before it’s limits are exposed in more drastic ways at times. Astro/severe low light being hard on most systems let alone a sensor being 7 odd years old by design 🤷♂️
From all these, the only that would affect me is the lack of a built-in flash. Yeah, I got a flash now. But the practicality of just popping it when needed is unmatched. Everything else..... Thanks for the vid. I think I've made my purchase decision now.
Very good video. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. You have been honest. Just one question, does this problem with the Z5's low-light screen quality also occur on the Z6ii? We await your sincere response
I have a broken Z6 at the moment and I was hoping to get this as a second Z video camera. But that crap factor is not going to work. Excellent review! Thank you
I simply did not want to spend another $1000 to get a z6ii so I got the z5 and used it in the last year and it works very well most of the time. Photos are good and video is very good. I don't need 4K. If I am using in studio, I can add an external 5 inch monitor to video capture myself. Sometimes its AF is not perfect in video for action video. The photo AF is fine. All in all a good camera for low light and IBIS at this price point. That said someday I may sell it for a Z6ii or Z6iii coming out mid next year, but not anytime soon, as if fulfills most needs. Worth buying and recommending the Z5. Thanks for the review.
@@RalphMayhewPhotography Thanks. I created some very decent real estate exterior sample photos with Z5 and kit lens and Lightroom and Photoshop did the rest correcting perspectives, and a bit more texture sharpness. Those I put on my website! The kit lens is much sharper than most other kit lenses from other brands. I like the Z5 because of its size, great for walk around. I also have the D780 which I use the 16-28mm Sigma FF lens for interior real estate. However, I do a mix of many photography areas and videos including portraits and product photos/video (mostly use DSLRs but Z5 also does very decent video in HD mode, plus photo capture. Cheers!
Totally agree with the adapter. If you dont get it in a kit its stupidly expensive new 🤮 Got mine used. The top screen and limitations on video and fps isnt worth the upgrade for me 😀 Love it so far, first new camera I've owned. With the summer sale the used prices just didnt compare good with the kit prices 🤩
That's a greta way to look at it. If I didn't shoot video, I'd choose this over the Z6 I reckon. the 12fps is super handy with surf photography, but 4.5fps is really good too!
If you're coming from a different brand camera you don't need the expensive chunk of metal since you don't own any older Nikon lenses. If you've already invested in Nikon glass it would be great but they wouldn't be selling many Z mount lenses. In order to get cash flowing for development of new Z lenses they need demand to rise. It's a catch 22.
I have the Z5, traded in some older Nikon cameras to buy it. For the additional funds in order to upgrade to the Z6 or Z6ii just wasn't worth it for me. Love my Z5 and use it a lot as a walk around camera. None of the negatives were a deal braker for me. Still use a D7200 a lot of the time along with a Z50. Thanks for a good video!
Same here, sold a D800 and a couple of lenses to get the z5/24-70 kit during the summer sale. Love it so far having just had it in the house. Cant wait to get it outside using it for some landscapes and the occational portrait.
Nik8n-Z5-8-def 1) Only tiltable LCD screen - depends on your photographic habits, for street its is optimal. 2) The price of the adapter has nothing to do with the Z 5. For old lenses there are affordable adapters at about 40$ - I use a NEWYI AI-N.Z adapter. By the way I bought a used Z 5 for that purpose.... 3) Yes shooting at night is a problem, much worse than at all my Olympus cameras. 4) Yes, 4K cropped is disappointing but reasonable due to the lower price. Maybe there will be a firmware update. 5) Yes the same with point four - but you have to decide what the camera should be for. 6) Top LCD screen would be fine but then buy a Z 6! But except for menu fummeling normally I look through the EVF or onto the screen when changing parameters presented on the top LCD on 6,7,9! 7) Serious photographers refrain from flashes on the camera let alone built-in ones. AND neither Z 6 nor Z 7 have a built-in flash! 8) Yes for long time shootings could be a problem but as long as you stay by the camera you will notice the end if you still can remember having pressed the shutter button... And for shots over the whole night you need to set a timer at any rare But at the end I realized that you did not mean it that way...
Amazing shots. What lens were you using for the still near the end of the video? I just purchased the Z5 and the limitation are not crippling me in creating my art and work so I settled with it and decided the D750 would retire or as a backup camera.
FTZ Adaptor used to be $149 for the first couple of months to get people hooked in then they upped the price to a ridiculous amount, even Canons you can get for $150 still.
It's criminal really. It'd cost them nothing and the brand would be loved so much more. This way they make more money in the short term but people are less inclined to love them as a company long term, leading to changing to the likes of Sony as happens HEAPS!
Great Sum Up of Limitations and Great Seascape shots! Only limitation for me was the FPS but have a D500 for when the need for speed is needed. And really no need for full articulating screen but would be nice to have. Or really video as just a stills photographer. My D500 coupled with my Z5 I feel complete. Except now needing and wanting that 100-400 or 200-600 promised. But fear it will be out of my price range around the $1000 $1400 the upper limit I can afford. But if not then the Z 24-200 is a crak'in lens for general walkabout and some nature kinds of shooting. Yep hoping Nikon finds it in their heart. To feel for the Z5 users and release firmware that will give uncropped 4k.
Top insights there dude. Thank you! A large lens like that from Nikon would come in at at least $6k I reckon. I use Tamron's 150-600 which cost me $1,200 brand new. There is always that option. It's a terrific lens and I love how it works.
@@RalphMayhewPhotography Yep have the Tamron 100-400 G2 also $1200 but AF is a smidgen slower with the FTZ but great on my D500. Was wanting the Nikon 200-500 but so much bigger heavier and am trying to keep to lighter and smaller handheld kits.
Just considered those things, and will say, I really don't find anything of concern. Tilt only monitors is what I prefer. I think I will buy the camera.
Great channel. Glad I found it. Happy you did some videos on this camera. It doesn't get the recognition it deserves! Concerning night use, the Z5 does extremely well for astrophotography. The use of a bahtinov mask should always be used anyway for critical star focus. I think the Z5 is the best bargain offered by Nikon in their ML lineup. I did have a Z6II and sold all my Nikon gear when I tried Canon. Now I'm back to Nikon and choose the Z5. Why not another Z6II? I never needed the high FPS. Even shooting wildlife, I was a short burst shooter. I find shorter bursts kept me on the target better and avoided BO. The side benefit is not a lot of photos to go through. A top LCD screen rarely got use. I'm a EVF shooter and the EVF is amazing. Video is rarely used and what this camera outputs is good enough. A lower FL lens would be used if the crop bothered me anyway. Better yet, sometimes I mount the iPhone 13 Pro Max on the hotshoe and video problem solved. All the higher end features are there though in this camera like focus peaking, intervalometer and focus stacking etc. A BSI sensor is nice, but with advances in software noise mitigation, it's a non-factor. This camera is on sale now at $1099us. It's a steal of a deal for a FF ML for anyone looking. I also picked up a "used"(looks brand new) Z24-200 for only $475us. A super sharp copy! Put the lens on auto ISO with a ISO limit when zooming and it's a great walk around team.
That’s such a great and rich comment. Thanks heaps. I’m curious about two points… 1. Do you use an actual mask with the Bahtinov approach. I’d never heard of it till now. 2. And second how do you attach the iPhone to the camera (digitally, not manually) and how do you then use it, what for? Thanks so much.
@@RalphMayhewPhotography just google Bahtinov Mask. Zoom in on the stars and focus. The mask will give a very distinct pattern when the stars are in focus. Focus has never been this super easy. As far as the IPhone, I simply use an attachment that holds the phone either in a vertical or horizontal position. The holder slips in the hot shoe. I use the phone to take the video which leaves my camera to take pictures.
It was like th perfect morning for it dude. Couldn't believe it. I've made a 4k sunrise video from it - my first, but only because it was so good! Thanks heaps mate.
Helpful video. Thank you. The noise on the display in low light is concerning, but I still may get the Z5 because it's more affordable than the Z6. Where was this shot? Are you in Adelaide?
Thank you so much for the video I'm just getting started in the photography business, so i figured this would be it for me for now, and you made alot lf things clear, I'm ordering it today :)
@@RalphMayhewPhotography I’m a newbie and finally would like to purchase my first camera. I plan to use it during travel, some family photography. I live by the beach so sunsets, sunrises etc.
Thank you for this video! I'm trying to get into photography and am agonizing over whether to enter the Nikon ecosystem (with the Z5) or the Canon (with the EOS RP). I mainly want this for landscape/waterfalls, sunrise/sunset scenes, low light situations, and probably a bit of my pets lol. Any advice????
That’s exciting Jen! Love to see what images you take and I hope my channel can help you feel more equipped. If I were you, I’d go into a camera store and play with both cameras. If they don’t stock the Z5 play with the Z6 it’s nearly the same. What you’re looking for is what is the most intuitive for you when it comes to changing modes, settings and menus. They’re on par and long term it won’t matter too much. I started using a Nikon because the way it worked made more sense to me (intuitive). Hope this helps :)
@@RalphMayhewPhotography It does! Thank you! Finding a camera store is definitely a trick these days but looking for one with a Z6 might help! I really appreciate the quick reply!
@@RalphMayhewPhotography Seattle, Washington in the US :) The land of Amazon 🤣 I did find a big name store (Best Buy) that has the Canon on display and I can just order the Nikon and play with both at home and decide which I like better 😁 The joy of returns!
Great comprehensive video mate! Those red pixels on the back LCD in low light were #oscillatinv😀 party time🎊🎈🎉🕺🏻💃🏼 Great little camera despite some of the mentioned limitations! Cheers 😉👍
Thanks heaps Peter. I guess it goes without saying that all cameras have limitations, depending on the user's need more than anything. good to see what the Z5's are though :)
I love the feel and ergonomics of the z5. Unfortunately the 1.8 primes are too big. The 20 1.8 looks like a paper towel tube or a cheap telephoto zoom. What was Nikon thinking?
The Sigma 105mm f 1.4 is the lens and yes it will take good quality shots. You’ll need an adapter to make it work on the Z5 because it’s a different mount.
Hi Ralph, D750 user here from past 3 years. I am planning to jump to mirrorless, but does not have the budget for Z6ii. So, I am thinking about Z5. Basically, I am wedding photographer. I only shoot stills, so I am not bothered about video capabilities. What you suggest, getting the Z5 or any other options. Thanks!
Hey mate. Thanks for your comment. I reckon the Z5 will fit the bill for you. You shouldn’t need a high frames per second shooting rate for weddings so I think you’re on the right track.
@@RalphMayhewPhotography Thanks a lot for your comment, just a one question, does the Z5 has the same image quality of D750 or little bit better. D750 already produces great dynamic range and image quality, so I am just hoping that Z5 nails it. Thanks once again.
I reckon you’d need to compare fps and auto focus. I’m not sure to be honest. But another determining factor would be to pick both up and see which you ergonomically like. My preference is Nikon having used both brands.
Helo Cowboy.....please tell me step by steps how to put the time and date in my picture note: I already set the time date and place I put sydney in the set up menu......second question is how do i apply the vivid or natural or standard or landescape when I take picture or Photo.......Please explain tome how to set it.......Thank you D'jango.........kind regards rikki
@@RalphMayhewPhotography yes Sir...please tell me steps by steps how to put date time time when I take pictures and see the date and time when I play in play back mode or in my computer......Thank you very much cowboy.....kind reagrds rikki
@@rikkibalnegg1 @rikki balnegg OK, go to Menu - Setup Menu - Time Zone and Date - set to correct settings for you. Then Menu - playback menu - Playback display option - (select) Shooting Data (put tick in box). then you access the info, when playback an image bu pressing the DISP button (which is where the switch between video and photos is found).
I have the Z5 and love it. While I agree those things are legit complaints. But the only one that bothers me at all is the 4k crop. Even then, it isn''t a deal breaker to me. To others, that might be, but not to me. Let me also say that I was a long time film guy, so I might be easier to please than those that grew up in the digital age. Most of my film cameras didn't have autofocus. Of my film cameras, only my Nikon F5 could shoot at a faster frame rate than the Z5. In the digital age, I have been using Nikon's "enthusiast" level DSLRs, like the D7xxx series. While the Z5 is often called Nikon's entry level full frame mirrorless camera, I think it is much more like enthusiast level cameras than "entry level". In fact, I would say the Z5 is nothing like Nikon entry level DSLRs. I would say the Z5 is like the enthusiast line in every respect.
Ugh, some misinformation happening here: #1 viewfinder resolution is the same with the z5, z6 and z7. #2 Cropped 4K is still 4K, no more and no less. The resolution of the final video doesn't change just because a smaller part of the sensor is being read. The part that is read out, still has a resolution of 4K or higher. #3 How on God's earth is the resolution of the viewfinder in any way connected to the performance of the autofocus? You make it sound like the lower pixel count of the EVF (which we know isn't the case) makes the AF less performant. What???
Although the points you made are valid. You are talking about a entry level camera for the Z-series. You should not expect top of the line features, at a lower price.
True but have you seen what they’ve packed into and called an entry level? It’s also not massively cheaper than the Z6. Helpfully cheaper but not hugely cheaper. A real entry level would have less features and cheaper price tag. Having said all of that it’s an amazing camera which I enjoy very much.
I use mine for macro and it works quite well for that purpose. The focus peaking is a great tool to use, since most folks use manual focus with macro. The only down side is it doesn't have the higher resolution sensor that the Z7 and above have. Of course they start at almost $3K MSRP vs $1400 for the Z5. 24 MP is enough for quite large enlargements and still retain lots of detail. I've used focus shift, and it is slick, but I normally shoot handheld with a flash and do focus bracketing manually. One down side to it's focus shift system is that you lose the display when starting the focus shift menu. This means you must use a tripod with this feature.
Kraken? You have Kraken in Aus? I think you are 100% spot on about the adapter, seriously over priced at best. Have to agree with all your other points. Great shots btw. I want to use this for videos, not sure this helped me in that regard, but otherwise gave me lots of good info thanks kindly eh
Unleash the Krakens!!! Haha that adapter is brilliant but way over priced it feels a bit criminal. Thanks mate for the comment. Not sure if it’s the perfect video solution for you. Have you looked at the Z6?
Well, that there is no flash on it is for me a pro because i work with strobes and such pop up flash really sits me in the way. I have understand that the Z5 has HSS option and that is a pro for me. The only worries i have is the 4K video compression because i shoot interviews sometimes and a small camera would fit me better than the big camera i have now.
@@radu0015 I don’t put the professional videos that I make for clients on my channel much but this video may be what you’re after: Nikon Z5 1080p Video Test: How good is the 1080p + 4k video quality? czcams.com/video/7hKrFWjzPKo/video.html
The Nikon Z50 also has a 1 million dot screen, yet the screen has no noise nikon specifically made these camera limitation, through updates, hopefully will fix this screen problem
That’s a shame you’ve had that experience but sounds like there might be an issue with your specific camera. Have you made enquiries to have it looked at. It’s never been my experience.
@@RalphMayhewPhotography the original z6 is now three years old and the successor is old news. I can’t see the original having more than one year left in it. Just my opinion though.
Built-in flash is for amateurs! Long exposure indicator will add light to a dark scene, so it doesn't make sense unless in your case, your subjects are far away, but if you're shooting a building or closer subject, it add light. The adapter is Nikon Z mount , not a Z5 problem! Top LCD doesn't exist on lower end bodies on any manufacturer! So there are actually only 4 real issues. I'd add not having internal log recording like the rest on Nikon Z bodies! Or weaker AF than competition or lack of 3rd party and native lenses compared to the competition!
I've got an old D5200 that I'm keen to upgrade to a Z5. It does have a built-in flash, which I've used MANY times for a bit of fill. So good for anything with a lot of backlight that you need to balance exposure a bit. Not so good as a main light source, but if was already on the camera, even seasoned professionals would use it for fill I'm sure!
Legend, was about to pull the trigger on it... have watched this at least 3 times since you posted it. Thinking I might look to wait for a Z6 (or Z7 or Z6ii) deal towards xmas.
Pulled the trigger on the Z5 with the 24-200. So happy. Had to go back to "use case". The Z5 will do 100% of what I want it to 95% of the time. Might have to get a fast prime to try out this Astro lark.... in the meantime, I'm heading back to your vid on L Brackets. Also going to do more research on filters. Cheers bud. I can honestly say if it hadn't been for your content, I would still be sitting on the fence ( and not taking photos)
Thant's so awesome Rob. Thank you for sharing. the 20mm f1.8 is my go to for astro. It's a ripper. Stoked to hear of your purchase and look forward to seeing what you come up with. you should join the Creative Crew Facebook page and share your work there.
Yeah the FPS rate stays the same on auto. If your just shooting your kids at home it’ll be great. Just use AF-C mode and don’t shoot in super low light.
Nikon really kicked the bucket with the Z5, it's a great camera, but 4,5 fps, gimped autofocus, and cropped 4k are just artificial limitations so it's not eating into the Z6 and Z6II. Instead of it being an absolutely mind blowing entry range full frame MILC it's only a really good entry range full frame MILC. And especially since the Z5 is currently basically the most competitive Nikon MILC - Z6 II competes with the Canon R6 and Sony A7III, where it's limitations are apparent, while the Z5s competition are 2-3 year old models like the Canon RP, Sony A7II, or ASP-C cameras like the A6600 and Fuji XT-30. Just having the Z5 get the wide area eye AF, 8-10 fps burst and uncropped 4K 30 would have made this camera absolutely crush every competitor in the 1200-1500€ price range and make it stand alone as a viable entry level full frame MILC while making most top range ASP-C MILCs seem rather pointless. Nikon needs to update it to Z5II with these features, push the Z6 line up into competition with the R6 and A7 IV (so 2500€ price), and the Z7 line up into competition with the A7RIV, R5 etc., and the Z9 as the top line pro sports camera competing with the A1 and R3. They also have to get Sigma and Tamron on board to release cheaper lenses, and release cheaper 1,8 primes for the Z line and push the ASP-C Z50 down below 1000€ or just axe the ASP-C Z line. At this point they're a bit all over the place, the Z50 is pointless because of the shit lens selection, the Z5 is needlessly gimped and not living up to it's potential, the Z6 II is great but will probably become outclassed when the A7 IV drops, and the Z7 II is just awkwardly placed - basically the same body as the Z5 and Z6 but a much bigger sensor and no other real performance gain, and just doesn't compete with the R5 or R6 at all.
Of course, and Rolls Royce need to start making their cars affordable, after all they're just BMW made salonfähig. Oh wait, bad example because that is so over-engineered that replacing a $5 seal may cost you $500 in labor and their 3 series chairs give me a hernia. When I bought into Nikon over 40 years ago with an F2, I shot Hasselblad, Cambo (4"x5") and Sinar P (8"x10") professionally. The choice for Nikon was for the great glass, robustness and reliability, as well as their service attitude and worldwide service network. It's why NASA took Nikon into space. When Nikon have an f-up, they admit and solve it. When another brand has quality issues they are sued in class action and then fight back for years. The Z glass is on another level. Where excellent F glass suffered (better, I as its user) from chromatic aberration, the Z glass solves that, is sharper, has less glare/flare/ghosting (you'll have to make your sunstars and aperture trails in Photoshop), controls focus breathing (focus breathing is "normal" under the laws of physics and a prime lens that does not have it, actually is a zoom lens), has very fast fly-by-wire focusing - and all such qualities are reasons to buy into the Z system. A Z 5 is an affordable way to buy into the full-frame Z system glass that cannot be adapted to any other mount. Next to this all, the main reasons to buy into Nikon in the past 2 digital decades were dynamic range and the incredibly good straight out of camera files, both raw and JPEG. Generally, the issues listed in YT about any camera are from armchair expertologist opinionistas with zero portfolio or only basic snapshots. All these cameras you mention do very well in genres that earn a good photographer real money. Look at a few of Jason Boland's videos before the Z 9. Look at Morten Hilmer in Norwegian winter at -20C (-4F), recently.
@@jpdj2715 Did you read what I wrote? Nikon currently has good cameras but its positioning them wrong. Why would you buy a Z6 II when the A7 III/IV or R6 just beat it out in most aspects? Why would you buy a Z7 II when the A7RIV or R5 beat it out in most aspects? The R5 is currently positioned well, but it's needlessly compromised - the AF and burst speed are artificially limited since the Z5 has the same processor as the Z6 and Z7, which can do much higher bursts and can do wide area eye AF. Hopefully the Z5 II comes soon with all the AF improvements that the Z9 got and is kept at the 1000-1500€ price point. Not having third part glass is bollocks and you know it. Cannon and Nikon are squeezing their customers for premium priced first party lenses that a lot won't need or can't afford. Meanwhile at Sony I can get a Sigma Art 24-70 2,8, which in tests compares to the Canon and Nikon first party versions, for literally half the price. Or I can get a way more affordable 1,8 prime, or a wide angle fisheye for rare occasions
@@ChaplainDMK Sony cameras are extremely unreliable. I have friends who have had to replace and repair literally 10-12 Sony bodies over the last 5-6 years.
No1. I'd pay extra not to have the stupid side hinged flippy flappy take forever screen. It's only you bloody CZcamsrs who cry about this. Real photographers DO NOT want this.
You can pay more 🤷🏼♂️ why watch us bloody CZcamsrs if you think we’re not real photographers anyway?? What value could we bring if we’re not real photographers?? Interesting you speak for all real ones when I and lots of other real photographer friends who aren’t CZcamsrs who find an articulating screen is extremely helpful for the likes of creative product, street and macro photography, to name a few. What photography do you do? Can I have a look a look at your work?
The issue with FTZ adapter is not only price (should be included in the kit for 100$ extra) but that idiotic knob on the bottom.If you don't want to have battery grip on the camera then this damn thing is sticking out.Not sure if Nikon mechanical designer ever heard about unigraphics ,volume check ,ergonomics and esthetic.This thing does not looks right does it?
@@RalphMayhewPhotography Put the FTZ on a camera ,then F lens on it and try to set the complete thing on a table.There is no balance and just by looking at it ,it looks like Frankenstein step child with some of the lenses.
This camera is for stills only if we are talking pro photographer . As a news videographer I have Z6 due to great lowlight not as good as a lot of the Sony's but Sony is garbage in wet weather . and slow as hell to start up. And dont get me statered with the stupid apps in Sony . Beautiful still btw my friend .
Is there a crop on the Z50? I own a Z6 and it's amazing I use it for video all the time. Depends how important 4K is. If it's not for premium use all the time, I'd go the Z5.
24-200 if your f stop is at 4. 24-70 if you get a lower f stop then 4 IE. 2.8. The lower the f stop the more creative things you can do with a lens. My exception would be if your doing only landscape and travelling so need one less to do it all. The. The 24-200 (quality won’t be as good) but your range will be great. What are you shooting?
I had this and exchange with amazing hybrid d780. Z5 has very basic level of iso performence and autofocusing is very bad. Really worthless for the money.
I use it primarily for stills and this camera is almost perfect: full frame, ibis, 2 card slots, great grip, access to Z lenses, etc. I occasionally use it for videos of the kids and its good enough
Totally agree with ya mate. It’s such a great camera!!
Good enough is one of the worst phrases ever uttered
I am a still photographer. The Z5 is simply outstanding. I have taken my best outdoor shots ever with the Z5. You just have to know your camera's limitations and how to use it. What is critical is the glass. Nikon glass is terrific.
I’m with you Ron. Well said 👍
Hmmm by Oscillating I actually mean articulating but oscillating sounds WAY COOLER ;) thanks for watching guys. Super appreciate it! I hope it helps.
Oscillating would be really cool but challenging to watch playback on. 😂
@@craig5649 hahahaha 😂😂😂
Just got mine. It is smaller, lighter and tighter than the full size Z6ii, but still can use all my Z primes and zooms.
It will probably become my everyday carry and sometimes a back-up to my Z6ii.
Thanks for posting your Z5 videos.
I use mine as an everyday carry. It’s great have stowed away when u just need a camera. If you pair it with a good lens too it creates some amazing images.
@@RalphMayhewPhotography I took a handful of existing light images/pictures with it last night.
I used the Z 85 mm 1.8. Also took some with the Z 20 mm 1.8 and the Z 35 mm 1.8.
I liked them a lot!
Just like its cousin the Z 6ii, this is a low light BEAST!
@@r1berto1 good choices 👌
Even if the processor is Expeed 6 doesn't mean it's the same binning. Even processors from the same wafer are not created equally. Some are ok, some are worse some are excellent. Depending on their flaws and how hot they get they might be able to process full sensor signal or not. Obviously they're not mad to use the higher binned processor for Z5, they're using it for better cameras and the ones that can't do full sensor readout are used for mid/lower tier cameras. That's the reason they first roll out the high end cameras, they sort the good parts, build the expensive stuff, sell it, then the parts that can't get that high performance are used for lower tier cameras. It's working the same with desktop/laptop/mobile devices cpus and gpus and pretty much everything. Also I'm pretty sure that the sensor doesn't even have full sensor readout for 4k so even if you slap a Z6 image processor the sensor will not be able to feed the data. I mean even the Z6 sensor and processor is used to it's upper limits, they're literally squeezing everything they can from the hardware.
Mate that is absolutely fascinating. I had no idea. Wow. Learnt heaps from that comment. Thanks so much for putting it in the mix. That’s why I love this community. Much appreciated.
From the UK, Thanks for this video. It seems like the Z5 is plenty good enough for most enthusiasts if they learn how to appreciate its potential.
Yep I think you’re bang on mate 👍
i love how you do your videos, they're informative and clear. helped me know what i needed to know about the Z5. appreciate it, keep up the good work!
awwww thank you so much!! that means a lot to me.
I found your channel bc I was curious the Z5. You've hit every pro and con perfectly and I believe im sold on it now. Coming from a D5300 this will be a nice upgrade. You've gained another subscriber! 🤙🤟
Walter you’re a legend. Thanks so much for the encouragement.
I’m going from a 5600 , how you like it?
Make the jump. I'll never go back to DSLR.
Limitations or not, still looks like a great camera. I'm not sure you can go wrong nowadays but great information here mate for anyone having trouble deciding. Hope you are well and keeping safe!
That's very true Paul. thanks heaps bud. I'm going well. We've just locked down again. How are you guys in Florida keeping?
@@RalphMayhewPhotography Back to being the epicenter on the entire planet right now. Florida has had 34,000 NEW cases in the last two days. No lockdowns, no mandates. Our governor says it's your choice to mask or vaccinate. Unbelievable ignorance. Here at my home, we are all double vaxxed, never stopped wearing our masks, and continue to social distance. And happy to do so to protect others and ourselves. But should have stayed in West Virginia, hardly ran into another soul there.
Wow man. That’s intense. Cannot believe the choices governments have made to put the dollar over people lives. It’s so disgusting. Glad you and yours are safe though mate 👍
just bought a Z5, and also $180 FTZ,
almost all of the limitations you note are acceptable for me, especially since I rarely shoot video,
I do shoot motorsports so at the start of a race 4pfs is rare poor, but I do have a D500 for that
You're closing shots were spectacular! Very nice, what is your preferable mode for landscapes
Thanks
Thanks very much. I’m glad the d500 has you covered. What do you mean by mode?
All the Z cameras share the same EVF resolution although maybe not Z50 but full frames yes. Z5 shares older but still commendable D750 sensor and it did similar in live view. Anyways check menu settings for “apply settings to live view” toggle on/off to see if that makes it better worse at night. Also the older sensor type has a slower readout speed and maybe skipping lines in low light to give you that look. Just my findings over time working with my Z6ii and trying mates Z5’s.
To be fair modern cameras just rip compared to back in the day, features/AF/noise are pretty dam good 👍
Josh you're a legend. Thanks for the comments mate. Great to learn from your insights and experience. My research led me to believe that the only different in Z5 and Z6 sensor is that the Z6 is illuminated on the back side. But you're saying the Z5 sensor is much older in its design?
@@RalphMayhewPhotography From all of my digging around and also personal experiences with a D750 for awhile yea it seems to be a refactored or mildly updated version of that sensor in the current Z5’s with a higher ISO level and phase detect AF, a great way for Nikon to lower the price in comparison to the Z6/Z7’s but still keeping it current with AF and standard mirrorless feature sets. I guess there is only so far you can push old tech before it’s limits are exposed in more drastic ways at times. Astro/severe low light being hard on most systems let alone a sensor being 7 odd years old by design 🤷♂️
Yeah so true. Still if old tech still works, why not :) thanks for the insights man. It’s super appreciated.
The new Z6 III is a hell of a camera. I think it will be hard to beat.
True. The cost may be prohibitive for a lot of the market (which is fine 👍) Great to see it’s arrived though.
From all these, the only that would affect me is the lack of a built-in flash.
Yeah, I got a flash now.
But the practicality of just popping it when needed is unmatched.
Everything else..... Thanks for the vid. I think I've made my purchase decision now.
Glad I could help 👌
Very good video. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. You have been honest. Just one question, does this problem with the Z5's low-light screen quality also occur on the Z6ii? We await your sincere response
Thanks. I’ve not used the Z6ii but the screen quality in the z6 is better, so I would easily assume that z6ii is equally better than the z5.
@@RalphMayhewPhotographyThank you for your kind response. We continue watching your videos
I have a broken Z6 at the moment and I was hoping to get this as a second Z video camera. But that crap factor is not going to work. Excellent review! Thank you
Sorry to hear the z6 is broken. Thanks heaps mate.
I simply did not want to spend another $1000 to get a z6ii so I got the z5 and used it in the last year and it works very well most of the time. Photos are good and video is very good. I don't need 4K. If I am using in studio, I can add an external 5 inch monitor to video capture myself. Sometimes its AF is not perfect in video for action video. The photo AF is fine. All in all a good camera for low light and IBIS at this price point. That said someday I may sell it for a Z6ii or Z6iii coming out mid next year, but not anytime soon, as if fulfills most needs. Worth buying and recommending the Z5. Thanks for the review.
Well said 🙏
@@RalphMayhewPhotography Thanks. I created some very decent real estate exterior sample photos with Z5 and kit lens and Lightroom and Photoshop did the rest correcting perspectives, and a bit more texture sharpness. Those I put on my website! The kit lens is much sharper than most other kit lenses from other brands. I like the Z5 because of its size, great for walk around. I also have the D780 which I use the 16-28mm Sigma FF lens for interior real estate. However, I do a mix of many photography areas and videos including portraits and product photos/video (mostly use DSLRs but Z5 also does very decent video in HD mode, plus photo capture. Cheers!
Totally agree with the adapter. If you dont get it in a kit its stupidly expensive new 🤮 Got mine used.
The top screen and limitations on video and fps isnt worth the upgrade for me 😀
Love it so far, first new camera I've owned. With the summer sale the used prices just didnt compare good with the kit prices 🤩
That's a greta way to look at it. If I didn't shoot video, I'd choose this over the Z6 I reckon. the 12fps is super handy with surf photography, but 4.5fps is really good too!
If you're coming from a different brand camera you don't need the expensive chunk of metal since you don't own any older Nikon lenses. If you've already invested in Nikon glass it would be great but they wouldn't be selling many Z mount lenses. In order to get cash flowing for development of new Z lenses they need demand to rise. It's a catch 22.
I have the Z5, traded in some older Nikon cameras to buy it. For the additional funds in order to upgrade to the Z6 or Z6ii just wasn't worth it for me. Love my Z5 and use it a lot as a walk around camera. None of the negatives were a deal braker for me. Still use a D7200 a lot of the time along with a Z50. Thanks for a good video!
Same here, sold a D800 and a couple of lenses to get the z5/24-70 kit during the summer sale. Love it so far having just had it in the house. Cant wait to get it outside using it for some landscapes and the occational portrait.
Thanks heaps James. I used to shoot with the D7200, it's a terrific camera, and like you none of these limitations were deal breakers for me either :)
You're gonna love it @madsbp It's such a good camera for the price point!
@@RalphMayhewPhotography Seems so so far 🤩
You can turn of the low light focus assist light in the custom autofocus settings a12. Hope it helps. :)
Thanks heaps mate 👍
Hi Ralph, the z5 recently got a firmware update. Did you notice much improvement in AF or any other areas?
I think I’ll have to do a video on ghat as I’m not sure right now :)
Nik8n-Z5-8-def
1) Only tiltable LCD screen - depends on your photographic habits, for street its is optimal.
2) The price of the adapter has nothing to do with the Z 5. For old lenses there are affordable adapters
at about 40$ - I use a NEWYI AI-N.Z adapter. By the way I bought a used Z 5 for that purpose....
3) Yes shooting at night is a problem, much worse than at all my Olympus cameras.
4) Yes, 4K cropped is disappointing but reasonable due to the lower price. Maybe there will be a firmware update.
5) Yes the same with point four - but you have to decide what the camera should be for.
6) Top LCD screen would be fine but then buy a Z 6! But except for menu fummeling normally I look through the EVF or onto the screen when changing parameters presented on the top LCD on 6,7,9!
7) Serious photographers refrain from flashes on the camera let alone built-in ones.
AND neither Z 6 nor Z 7 have a built-in flash!
8) Yes for long time shootings could be a problem but as long as you stay by the camera you will notice the end if you still can remember having pressed the shutter button...
And for shots over the whole night you need to set a timer at any rare
But at the end I realized that you did not mean it that way...
Thanks for a thorough comment and watching of the video 👍
Amazing shots. What lens were you using for the still near the end of the video? I just purchased the Z5 and the limitation are not crippling me in creating my art and work so I settled with it and decided the D750 would retire or as a backup camera.
Thanks mate. Really appreciate that. I used the Nikon S 24-70 f4 (z mount).
FTZ Adaptor used to be $149 for the first couple of months to get people hooked in then they upped the price to a ridiculous amount, even Canons you can get for $150 still.
It's criminal really. It'd cost them nothing and the brand would be loved so much more. This way they make more money in the short term but people are less inclined to love them as a company long term, leading to changing to the likes of Sony as happens HEAPS!
@@RalphMayhewPhotography Totally agree.
This is my first camera and so far it seems to be good enough for my needs.
I'm glad to hear that Lee. I think you'll really enjoy it.
Great Sum Up of Limitations and Great Seascape shots!
Only limitation for me was the FPS but have a D500 for when the need for speed is needed. And really no need for full articulating screen but would be nice to have. Or really video as just a stills photographer.
My D500 coupled with my Z5 I feel complete. Except now needing and wanting that 100-400 or 200-600 promised. But fear it will be out of my price range around the $1000 $1400 the upper limit I can afford. But if not then the Z 24-200 is a crak'in lens for general walkabout and some nature kinds of shooting.
Yep hoping Nikon finds it in their heart. To feel for the Z5 users and release firmware that will give uncropped 4k.
Top insights there dude. Thank you! A large lens like that from Nikon would come in at at least $6k I reckon. I use Tamron's 150-600 which cost me $1,200 brand new. There is always that option. It's a terrific lens and I love how it works.
@@RalphMayhewPhotography Yep have the Tamron 100-400 G2 also $1200 but AF is a smidgen slower with the FTZ but great on my D500. Was wanting the Nikon 200-500 but so much bigger heavier and am trying to keep to lighter and smaller handheld kits.
Yeah totally get ya mate. Ah the joys of new gear verses old gear and making it all work with each other.
Just considered those things, and will say, I really don't find anything of concern. Tilt only monitors is what I prefer. I think I will buy the camera.
Great to hear.
Always Great Content 👍🏾 👌🏾 👏🏾 🙌🏿
That’s very kind of you.
I am REALLY liking this channel. Well done .. from 🇧🇷
Thanks heaps mate. That’s so encouraging. I really appreciate it.
Great channel. Glad I found it. Happy you did some videos on this camera. It doesn't get the recognition it deserves! Concerning night use, the Z5 does extremely well for astrophotography. The use of a bahtinov mask should always be used anyway for critical star focus. I think the Z5 is the best bargain offered by Nikon in their ML lineup. I did have a Z6II and sold all my Nikon gear when I tried Canon. Now I'm back to Nikon and choose the Z5. Why not another Z6II? I never needed the high FPS. Even shooting wildlife, I was a short burst shooter. I find shorter bursts kept me on the target better and avoided BO. The side benefit is not a lot of photos to go through. A top LCD screen rarely got use. I'm a EVF shooter and the EVF is amazing. Video is rarely used and what this camera outputs is good enough. A lower FL lens would be used if the crop bothered me anyway. Better yet, sometimes I mount the iPhone 13 Pro Max on the hotshoe and video problem solved. All the higher end features are there though in this camera like focus peaking, intervalometer and focus stacking etc. A BSI sensor is nice, but with advances in software noise mitigation, it's a non-factor. This camera is on sale now at $1099us. It's a steal of a deal for a FF ML for anyone looking. I also picked up a "used"(looks brand new) Z24-200 for only $475us. A super sharp copy! Put the lens on auto ISO with a ISO limit when zooming and it's a great walk around team.
That’s such a great and rich comment. Thanks heaps. I’m curious about two points… 1. Do you use an actual mask with the Bahtinov approach. I’d never heard of it till now.
2. And second how do you attach the iPhone to the camera (digitally, not manually) and how do you then use it, what for?
Thanks so much.
@@RalphMayhewPhotography just google Bahtinov Mask. Zoom in on the stars and focus. The mask will give a very distinct pattern when the stars are in focus. Focus has never been this super easy.
As far as the IPhone, I simply use an attachment that holds the phone either in a vertical or horizontal position. The holder slips in the hot shoe. I use the phone to take the video which leaves my camera to take pictures.
Seems like a great camera for the money despite those potential downsides to some. Killer shots too mate, that sunrise you had looks great!
It was like th perfect morning for it dude. Couldn't believe it. I've made a 4k sunrise video from it - my first, but only because it was so good! Thanks heaps mate.
The point of the FTZ adapters is that Nikon doesn't want you to buy it. They want you to buy new z mount lenses so they can make their profit.
Yeah that’s a good insight. Love how our camera companies look after us as customers and the only reason they exist 🙄
Helpful video. Thank you. The noise on the display in low light is concerning, but I still may get the Z5 because it's more affordable than the Z6. Where was this shot? Are you in Adelaide?
Cheers. Glad to help. I’m on the Gold Coast 👍
Thank you so much for the video I'm just getting started in the photography business, so i figured this would be it for me for now, and you made alot lf things clear, I'm ordering it today :)
So good to hear mate. If you need any more help I reckon my channel should be able to help ya. 👍
With what lense did you shoot those pictures? Thanks for the video!
I’m pretty sure is was a Nikon 20mm f1.8.
Nice video, and shots 💪
Thanks legend. Much appreciated.
You do have an option to turn off the AF- assist illuminator (the green light). Just go to the autofocus options and it's marked as - a12.
You’re a legend. Thanks heaps. I’m gonna do it now. 👍
great pics, nice review.
Thanks champion. Really appreciate that.
Hi! Super helpful videos on Z5. What lens would you recommend? I have been eyeing 24-200 f4-6 or 28-75 f2.8
Thanks so much. I always lean toward a higher aperture so the f2.8 BUT what do you need it for?
@@RalphMayhewPhotography I’m a newbie and finally would like to purchase my first camera. I plan to use it during travel, some family photography. I live by the beach so sunsets, sunrises etc.
@@viktoriyalushkova8131 if you wanted to stay on the cheaper end of things the z5 with the 24-70 kit lens would likely be all you need.
Thank you for this video! I'm trying to get into photography and am agonizing over whether to enter the Nikon ecosystem (with the Z5) or the Canon (with the EOS RP). I mainly want this for landscape/waterfalls, sunrise/sunset scenes, low light situations, and probably a bit of my pets lol. Any advice????
That’s exciting Jen! Love to see what images you take and I hope my channel can help you feel more equipped. If I were you, I’d go into a camera store and play with both cameras. If they don’t stock the Z5 play with the Z6 it’s nearly the same. What you’re looking for is what is the most intuitive for you when it comes to changing modes, settings and menus. They’re on par and long term it won’t matter too much. I started using a Nikon because the way it worked made more sense to me (intuitive). Hope this helps :)
@@RalphMayhewPhotography It does! Thank you! Finding a camera store is definitely a trick these days but looking for one with a Z6 might help! I really appreciate the quick reply!
It can be a bit tricky. Where are you located in the world?
@@RalphMayhewPhotography Seattle, Washington in the US :) The land of Amazon 🤣 I did find a big name store (Best Buy) that has the Canon on display and I can just order the Nikon and play with both at home and decide which I like better 😁 The joy of returns!
The issue you mentioned of noise in the screen at night is unsettling to me. A deal breaker. Does the Z6 have this issue?
I’m glad it helped 👍 NO WHERE NEAR as bad. You get noise in all EVF but in the Z6 I don’t experimce it as a deterrent.
Epic one Ralph!!! That sunrise 😀👌💪
Thanks so much Troy. It was an insane sunrise!
Forgot to say EVF’s of 3.6 mill dots
:45 What's that arc on the water that doesn't move? Is that schmutz on your lens?
That’s a natural phenomenon 👍
I love how Ralph ignores that he's drowning... slowly. :) Hehe. Thanks for the content.
Hahah thanks 😁
Great comprehensive video mate! Those red pixels on the back LCD in low light were #oscillatinv😀 party time🎊🎈🎉🕺🏻💃🏼 Great little camera despite some of the mentioned limitations! Cheers 😉👍
Thanks heaps Peter. I guess it goes without saying that all cameras have limitations, depending on the user's need more than anything. good to see what the Z5's are though :)
I love the feel and ergonomics of the z5. Unfortunately the 1.8 primes are too big. The 20 1.8 looks like a paper towel tube or a cheap telephoto zoom. What was Nikon thinking?
Hahaha I’ve always thought the 50mm f1.8 is the most un-nifty 50 on the market gahhh
Do u want fashion and looks or optical performance? I take function over form any day.
Please tell how can i shoot slow motion in which frame size z5
The slowest you can go is half speed. So set it to 1080 60fps.
@@RalphMayhewPhotography thank you so much Ralp , can you show me the setting of slow motion and setting of N-LOG without atomos ninja please 🙏
Just Google that mate 👍 there’s a number of videos out there covering it :)
I don't know anything about cameras. I have a question Nikon Z5 Sigma 105mm f 1.4 Good quality pictures can be taken using lenses What?
The Sigma 105mm f 1.4 is the lens and yes it will take good quality shots. You’ll need an adapter to make it work on the Z5 because it’s a different mount.
Thanks nice video
Thanks very much.
If you don’t use the focus peaking, is the screen as noisy in the dark?
Yep. Unfortunately In low light the screen goes super noisy! Regardless of peaking.
Hi Ralph, D750 user here from past 3 years. I am planning to jump to mirrorless, but does not have the budget for Z6ii. So, I am thinking about Z5. Basically, I am wedding photographer. I only shoot stills, so I am not bothered about video capabilities. What you suggest, getting the Z5 or any other options. Thanks!
Hey mate. Thanks for your comment. I reckon the Z5 will fit the bill for you. You shouldn’t need a high frames per second shooting rate for weddings so I think you’re on the right track.
@@RalphMayhewPhotography Thanks a lot for your comment, just a one question, does the Z5 has the same image quality of D750 or little bit better. D750 already produces great dynamic range and image quality, so I am just hoping that Z5 nails it. Thanks once again.
@@krpradi sorry champ. I’ve never shot on the d750. I have however been impressed and happy with the z5’s results.
Exactly the adapter should be free.
Come on!!! :D
Is the Z5 a better option than the Sony A7iii which are both a similar price? I currently have Fuji and Olympus kit.
I reckon you’d need to compare fps and auto focus. I’m not sure to be honest. But another determining factor would be to pick both up and see which you ergonomically like. My preference is Nikon having used both brands.
Can you flush Z6's firmware to uncrop 4k videos?
Hmm never heard of flushing firmware. Can you tell me how that works?
Helo Cowboy.....please tell me step by steps how to put the time and date in my picture note: I already set the time date and place I put sydney in the set up menu......second question is how do i apply the vivid or natural or standard or landescape when I take picture or Photo.......Please explain tome how to set it.......Thank you D'jango.........kind regards rikki
my camera is nikon z5
Do you want to be able to see the date in the photo when you go back and look at them on your camera?
@@RalphMayhewPhotography yes Sir...please tell me steps by steps how to put date time time when I take pictures and see the date and time when I play in play back mode or in my computer......Thank you very much cowboy.....kind reagrds
rikki
@@rikkibalnegg1 @rikki balnegg OK, go to Menu - Setup Menu - Time Zone and Date - set to correct settings for you. Then Menu - playback menu - Playback display option - (select) Shooting Data (put tick in box). then you access the info, when playback an image bu pressing the DISP button (which is where the switch between video and photos is found).
For the second question: Menu - PHOTO SHOOTING MENU - Set Picture control - and take your pick,. VIVid is there.
I have the Z5 and love it. While I agree those things are legit complaints. But the only one that bothers me at all is the 4k crop. Even then, it isn''t a deal breaker to me. To others, that might be, but not to me.
Let me also say that I was a long time film guy, so I might be easier to please than those that grew up in the digital age. Most of my film cameras didn't have autofocus. Of my film cameras, only my Nikon F5 could shoot at a faster frame rate than the Z5.
In the digital age, I have been using Nikon's "enthusiast" level DSLRs, like the D7xxx series. While the Z5 is often called Nikon's entry level full frame mirrorless camera, I think it is much more like enthusiast level cameras than "entry level". In fact, I would say the Z5 is nothing like Nikon entry level DSLRs. I would say the Z5 is like the enthusiast line in every respect.
Fair call. Why does the 4k crop bother you so much? same quality, just need to reframe?
@@RalphMayhewPhotography It doesn't bother me so much. I said it isn't a deal breaker. But it is the only one of the 8 that bother me at all.
@@ukyo2010 yeah fair enough 👍👍
Ugh, some misinformation happening here: #1 viewfinder resolution is the same with the z5, z6 and z7. #2 Cropped 4K is still 4K, no more and no less. The resolution of the final video doesn't change just because a smaller part of the sensor is being read. The part that is read out, still has a resolution of 4K or higher. #3 How on God's earth is the resolution of the viewfinder in any way connected to the performance of the autofocus? You make it sound like the lower pixel count of the EVF (which we know isn't the case) makes the AF less performant. What???
Although the points you made are valid. You are talking about a entry level camera for the Z-series. You should not expect top of the line features, at a lower price.
True but have you seen what they’ve packed into and called an entry level? It’s also not massively cheaper than the Z6. Helpfully cheaper but not hugely cheaper. A real entry level would have less features and cheaper price tag. Having said all of that it’s an amazing camera which I enjoy very much.
Which camera is shooting in?
The Nikon Zfc
Hi Ralph, Lovely Video 😍. Would the Z5 be good enough for Macro Photography where i would use it for focus bracketing & stacking?
It has auto focus stacking I believe so should be good for it, yes :)
I use mine for macro and it works quite well for that purpose. The focus peaking is a great tool to use, since most folks use manual focus with macro. The only down side is it doesn't have the higher resolution sensor that the Z7 and above have. Of course they start at almost $3K MSRP vs $1400 for the Z5. 24 MP is enough for quite large enlargements and still retain lots of detail. I've used focus shift, and it is slick, but I normally shoot handheld with a flash and do focus bracketing manually. One down side to it's focus shift system is that you lose the display when starting the focus shift menu. This means you must use a tripod with this feature.
Kraken? You have Kraken in Aus? I think you are 100% spot on about the adapter, seriously over priced at best. Have to agree with all your other points. Great shots btw. I want to use this for videos, not sure this helped me in that regard, but otherwise gave me lots of good info thanks kindly eh
Unleash the Krakens!!! Haha that adapter is brilliant but way over priced it feels a bit criminal. Thanks mate for the comment. Not sure if it’s the perfect video solution for you. Have you looked at the Z6?
Aye, the Z6 is actually top of the list, looking at both of these. Now I’m leaning towards the Z6. If I can find a sale . . .
Well, that there is no flash on it is for me a pro because i work with strobes and such pop up flash really sits me in the way. I have understand that the Z5 has HSS option and that is a pro for me. The only worries i have is the 4K video compression because i shoot interviews sometimes and a small camera would fit me better than the big camera i have now.
I’ve used mine to shoot interviews and the 4K for me has come up great.
@@RalphMayhewPhotography Can you show me a video you made with the Z5? I want to see from a professional what this camera can do in a real job.
@@radu0015 I don’t put the professional videos that I make for clients on my channel much but this video may be what you’re after: Nikon Z5 1080p Video Test: How good is the 1080p + 4k video quality?
czcams.com/video/7hKrFWjzPKo/video.html
The Nikon Z50 also has a 1 million dot screen, yet the screen has no noise
nikon specifically made these camera limitation, through updates, hopefully will fix this screen problem
Interesting. What makes you think they deliberately downgraded EVF resolution and clarity?
@@RalphMayhewPhotography the problem is not in resolution, but in refreshing the screen and viewfinder I think the reason was the threat to the Z6.🙂
@@nieznajomy7269 ahh yes. That sounds right 👍
They give us IBIS but they crop the 4K video smh. It would have been such a great entry level full frame.
Yep indeed. Whispers are that once the z6 sells out they’ll open up the 4K on the Z5 🤔🤔
Z5 missed focus in every moving subject clicks 🙂 stay away from Z5 .
That’s a shame you’ve had that experience but sounds like there might be an issue with your specific camera. Have you made enquiries to have it looked at. It’s never been my experience.
But there is a real limitation on the Z5: bracketing WITHOUT burst mode - that limits this functionality to a huge degree!
I don’t like mine ! I prefer my old cameras the D3200 and the D2700! ❤
Why don’t you like it?
Fingers crossed that when Nikon stops making the original z6, they may give us no cropped 4K through firmware update. Thanks for the vid.
Ooooh how good would that be. Chances have got to be slim though. When do you think they'll stop making them?
@@RalphMayhewPhotography the original z6 is now three years old and the successor is old news. I can’t see the original having more than one year left in it. Just my opinion though.
Time will tell hey!!
Built-in flash is for amateurs! Long exposure indicator will add light to a dark scene, so it doesn't make sense unless in your case, your subjects are far away, but if you're shooting a building or closer subject, it add light. The adapter is Nikon Z mount , not a Z5 problem! Top LCD doesn't exist on lower end bodies on any manufacturer!
So there are actually only 4 real issues.
I'd add not having internal log recording like the rest on Nikon Z bodies! Or weaker AF than competition or lack of 3rd party and native lenses compared to the competition!
I've got an old D5200 that I'm keen to upgrade to a Z5. It does have a built-in flash, which I've used MANY times for a bit of fill. So good for anything with a lot of backlight that you need to balance exposure a bit. Not so good as a main light source, but if was already on the camera, even seasoned professionals would use it for fill I'm sure!
Would be great to see the performance with adapted lenses!
By 'adapted' do you mean third party or f-mount? Or something else?
@@RalphMayhewPhotography i mean both Nikon's and third party. Would be great to see how they work!
I reckon I could arrange that :)
Legend, was about to pull the trigger on it... have watched this at least 3 times since you posted it. Thinking I might look to wait for a Z6 (or Z7 or Z6ii) deal towards xmas.
So stoked I could help in that way man. Love being able to help people make the right decision for them. Cheers.
@@RalphMayhewPhotography no one wants buyers remorse … keep up the content mate. Always enthuses me to get out and shoot
Pulled the trigger on the Z5 with the 24-200. So happy. Had to go back to "use case". The Z5 will do 100% of what I want it to 95% of the time. Might have to get a fast prime to try out this Astro lark.... in the meantime, I'm heading back to your vid on L Brackets. Also going to do more research on filters. Cheers bud. I can honestly say if it hadn't been for your content, I would still be sitting on the fence ( and not taking photos)
Thant's so awesome Rob. Thank you for sharing. the 20mm f1.8 is my go to for astro. It's a ripper. Stoked to hear of your purchase and look forward to seeing what you come up with. you should join the Creative Crew Facebook page and share your work there.
nice
Thanks
is continuous shooting 4.5 FPS working with auto focus ? is it good for kids in action ?
Yeah the FPS rate stays the same on auto. If your just shooting your kids at home it’ll be great. Just use AF-C mode and don’t shoot in super low light.
For personal (travel & home) purpose Sony A7C required for Z5 enough?
Nikon really kicked the bucket with the Z5, it's a great camera, but 4,5 fps, gimped autofocus, and cropped 4k are just artificial limitations so it's not eating into the Z6 and Z6II. Instead of it being an absolutely mind blowing entry range full frame MILC it's only a really good entry range full frame MILC. And especially since the Z5 is currently basically the most competitive Nikon MILC - Z6 II competes with the Canon R6 and Sony A7III, where it's limitations are apparent, while the Z5s competition are 2-3 year old models like the Canon RP, Sony A7II, or ASP-C cameras like the A6600 and Fuji XT-30.
Just having the Z5 get the wide area eye AF, 8-10 fps burst and uncropped 4K 30 would have made this camera absolutely crush every competitor in the 1200-1500€ price range and make it stand alone as a viable entry level full frame MILC while making most top range ASP-C MILCs seem rather pointless.
Nikon needs to update it to Z5II with these features, push the Z6 line up into competition with the R6 and A7 IV (so 2500€ price), and the Z7 line up into competition with the A7RIV, R5 etc., and the Z9 as the top line pro sports camera competing with the A1 and R3. They also have to get Sigma and Tamron on board to release cheaper lenses, and release cheaper 1,8 primes for the Z line and push the ASP-C Z50 down below 1000€ or just axe the ASP-C Z line. At this point they're a bit all over the place, the Z50 is pointless because of the shit lens selection, the Z5 is needlessly gimped and not living up to it's potential, the Z6 II is great but will probably become outclassed when the A7 IV drops, and the Z7 II is just awkwardly placed - basically the same body as the Z5 and Z6 but a much bigger sensor and no other real performance gain, and just doesn't compete with the R5 or R6 at all.
Of course, and Rolls Royce need to start making their cars affordable, after all they're just BMW made salonfähig. Oh wait, bad example because that is so over-engineered that replacing a $5 seal may cost you $500 in labor and their 3 series chairs give me a hernia. When I bought into Nikon over 40 years ago with an F2, I shot Hasselblad, Cambo (4"x5") and Sinar P (8"x10") professionally. The choice for Nikon was for the great glass, robustness and reliability, as well as their service attitude and worldwide service network. It's why NASA took Nikon into space. When Nikon have an f-up, they admit and solve it. When another brand has quality issues they are sued in class action and then fight back for years. The Z glass is on another level. Where excellent F glass suffered (better, I as its user) from chromatic aberration, the Z glass solves that, is sharper, has less glare/flare/ghosting (you'll have to make your sunstars and aperture trails in Photoshop), controls focus breathing (focus breathing is "normal" under the laws of physics and a prime lens that does not have it, actually is a zoom lens), has very fast fly-by-wire focusing - and all such qualities are reasons to buy into the Z system. A Z 5 is an affordable way to buy into the full-frame Z system glass that cannot be adapted to any other mount. Next to this all, the main reasons to buy into Nikon in the past 2 digital decades were dynamic range and the incredibly good straight out of camera files, both raw and JPEG. Generally, the issues listed in YT about any camera are from armchair expertologist opinionistas with zero portfolio or only basic snapshots. All these cameras you mention do very well in genres that earn a good photographer real money. Look at a few of Jason Boland's videos before the Z 9. Look at Morten Hilmer in Norwegian winter at -20C (-4F), recently.
@@jpdj2715 Did you read what I wrote? Nikon currently has good cameras but its positioning them wrong. Why would you buy a Z6 II when the A7 III/IV or R6 just beat it out in most aspects? Why would you buy a Z7 II when the A7RIV or R5 beat it out in most aspects?
The R5 is currently positioned well, but it's needlessly compromised - the AF and burst speed are artificially limited since the Z5 has the same processor as the Z6 and Z7, which can do much higher bursts and can do wide area eye AF.
Hopefully the Z5 II comes soon with all the AF improvements that the Z9 got and is kept at the 1000-1500€ price point.
Not having third part glass is bollocks and you know it. Cannon and Nikon are squeezing their customers for premium priced first party lenses that a lot won't need or can't afford. Meanwhile at Sony I can get a Sigma Art 24-70 2,8, which in tests compares to the Canon and Nikon first party versions, for literally half the price. Or I can get a way more affordable 1,8 prime, or a wide angle fisheye for rare occasions
@@ChaplainDMK Sony cameras are extremely unreliable. I have friends who have had to replace and repair literally 10-12 Sony bodies over the last 5-6 years.
No1. I'd pay extra not to have the stupid side hinged flippy flappy take forever screen. It's only you bloody CZcamsrs who cry about this. Real photographers DO NOT want this.
You can pay more 🤷🏼♂️ why watch us bloody CZcamsrs if you think we’re not real photographers anyway?? What value could we bring if we’re not real photographers?? Interesting you speak for all real ones when I and lots of other real photographer friends who aren’t CZcamsrs who find an articulating screen is extremely helpful for the likes of creative product, street and macro photography, to name a few. What photography do you do? Can I have a look a look at your work?
The issue with FTZ adapter is not only price (should be included in the kit for 100$ extra) but that idiotic knob on the bottom.If you don't want to have battery grip on the camera then this damn thing is sticking out.Not sure if Nikon mechanical designer ever heard about unigraphics ,volume check ,ergonomics and esthetic.This thing does not looks right does it?
Yeah that’s a very good point. The canon adapter is so nice - well designed, complimentary and inconspicuous.
@@RalphMayhewPhotography Put the FTZ on a camera ,then F lens on it and try to set the complete thing on a table.There is no balance and just by looking at it ,it looks like Frankenstein step child with some of the lenses.
You are wrong on one thing : Z6 and Z5 got the same viewfinder.
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Mate… whatcha doing calling it a zee 5. Zed 5 mate 😂 I’m from Sydney and also own a Z5 👍
Hahahaha I’m with ya legend. I think I’ve been brainwashed with all the marketing 🤣🤣🤣 thanks for keeping me on the straight and narrow. 👊👌
This camera is for stills only if we are talking pro photographer . As a news videographer I have Z6 due to great lowlight not as good as a lot of the Sony's but Sony is garbage in wet weather . and slow as hell to start up. And dont get me statered with the stupid apps in Sony . Beautiful still btw my friend .
I shoot primarily on the z6 for video but the z5 is super handy for quality stills 👍
@@RalphMayhewPhotography that's what I'm sayin
@@nightstringers cool 👍
All cameras have good and bad sides, nothing is perfect....
Very true.
I’m shooting a D7100 and tossing up between this and the z50. I am keen to do more video and the 1.7 crop on 4K is a real killer.
Is there a crop on the Z50? I own a Z6 and it's amazing I use it for video all the time. Depends how important 4K is. If it's not for premium use all the time, I'd go the Z5.
@@RalphMayhewPhotography no crop on z50 for 4K shooting. But is probably same as crop in z5 though.
Yeas if Nikon put this adapter in every z camera surly they will sale more and more sale of old lenes but nikon a bot gready
Yep you’re right. I wonder if there is a Japanese cultural push not to do that sort of thing? It’s something you can see Canon doing.
Cause everyone can just afford a Z9. Different cameras for different people.
24-70 or 24-200? Why?
24-200 if your f stop is at 4. 24-70 if you get a lower f stop then 4 IE. 2.8. The lower the f stop the more creative things you can do with a lens. My exception would be if your doing only landscape and travelling so need one less to do it all. The. The 24-200 (quality won’t be as good) but your range will be great. What are you shooting?
@@RalphMayhewPhotography most of the time landscape and family. But sometimes I miss the the long range
@@Segata-Sanshiro if you don’t do heaps of photography but it’s a hobby you enjoy then probably the long lens option. 👍
@@RalphMayhewPhotography then I start pixel peeping 🤣
Screen is no problem
Good to hear 👍
I had this and exchange with amazing hybrid d780.
Z5 has very basic level of iso performence and autofocusing is very bad.
Really worthless for the money.
Yep the d780 is an incredible camera, especially compared to the Z5. It just beats it all round 👊
The z5 is awesome. Maye you suck?
What am I missing, the d780 cost $1000 more than the Z5? It should be significantly better. Seriously, what am I not understanding?
#9 you cannot upload your pics, vids directly to the cloud. Oops! Cannot do that with any camera, but you can with your iPhone.
That’s a good one. Can you upload full res with your phone?
C'mon man get to the camera a bit quicker - I almost switched off in frustration.
I actually watched this video again, from a few months ago, the other day and thought the same thing lol
@@RalphMayhewPhotography LOL 😀
First in wooooo
Well played 👏👏👏
"Oscillating"?? 🤣🤣🤣 Wtf
Hahaha it’s the new cool way to say articulating - haha bugger lol