Nuphy Air75 (version 2) review - should you upgrade?
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Looking to up your low-profile mechanical keyboard game? 🎮 Today we showcase an advance preview of the Nuphy Air 75 Version 2, their latest low-profile marvel has got keyboard enthusiasts buzzing! 🐝 From snazzy new colour options to lightning-fast 1000Hz polling rates, this keyboard brings both form and function to your fingertips. 🎨🚀
Unsure about upgrading from the original Air 75 v1? I break down the key differences across each keyboard. 💸 Plus, hear how this keyboard feels and sounds with a ASMR typing test! 🎧👂
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0:00 : Intro
0:14 : The Air75 Story
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best review of this keyboard by far
Thanks buddy. 👍🏻
Totally agree, loved the switches comparison to wine :)
Great video. Enjoyed your analogies to explain the concepts for newbies. I like the way you speak too!
Thanks Christine! Glad you enjoyed it (and my weird analogies) 😊
Excellent review! I preordered mine, cant wait for it to arrive!
Thanks Alexa. Hopefully you won’t be waiting too long!
Just ordered using your code, thanks for the review!
Hope you enjoy it!
Excellent review with some good humor too. Well done and good luck on growing your channel.
Thank you kindly Andrew. And glad you've clearly got excellent taste! ;-)
love your reviews! im preordering this right now, ive been typing on laptops all my life so im so used to this profile. i have a custom mx swoop keyboard, i bit off way more than i could chew and think a traditional keyboard is a better entry point for me :)
Thank you- you’ll be happy with this one I’m sure! Don’t forget the discount link for your 10% off. 😁
Great review as always!
Thanks Kevin!
I’ve been using the Logitech mecha mini since it released, and now I’m considering a Nuphy. It looks much more like a traditional mechanical keyboard!
This review helped convince me even more to buy it!
It's done!
Ha, thanks and enjoy!
7:21 I don’t remember the first keyboard I had from an actual computer but I remember that it was a Windows 98 machines that eventually upgraded to XP. I don’t remember if the keyboard was from Compaq or Gateway/HP. It was a fully-featured desktop PC (that came with a monitor, keyboard, mouse, and speakers).
Also, I don’t mind the “bezel” look of the Air75. I prefer it over the Keychron “borderless” style.
Excellent review! I wish they would make a laptop style layout version of it. Just move that Fn key to the left side of the Space key, after the Ctrl key so it is: Ctrl-Fn-Opt-Cmd SPACE Cmd-Opt.
Thanks mate. And yes that would be awesome!
Isn’t it customisable via VIA?
Surprisingly, and maybe controversially, I prefer the larger border on the NuPhy Air 75 V2.
You’re not alone. I guess if you lose the border you lose those side lights!
@@ThatMarkGilroy For me, it's not only that, but also an aesthetic improvement. The Keychron to me looks too.... work oriented. The NuPhy just looks fun.
It looks better to me too!
agreed. i'm not a fan of the floating keyscaps on the Keychron
Same here!
@ThatMarkGilroy quick question for you, does the backlight of the black V2 match the brightness levels of the V1. I received the black V2 from the discord giveaway and while comparing the backlight to that of the V1, I noticed that the black V2 at max brightness is only comparable to the level one brightness of the V1. Others on the discord channel report then ionic white V2 to be brighter than the V1.
I think they’d be right - I have the ionic white Air 96 and it seems brighter than this. The key (!) difference is that I wasn’t able to test the shinethrough keycaps- these should level the playing field if you prefer the darker look of the basalt black option.
@@ThatMarkGilroy thanks for checking, I get that black absorbs light and it could be a reason why the keyboard looks dimmer but then comparing just the sidelights of the V1 and V2 shows the V2 is much dimmer so I was concerned if it’s a manufacturing issue. Hopefully the shine through caps help. Cheers
So do you change the language to UK for the keyboard? I have always wanted a Nuphy Air75, but I am too used to ISO :( . Just thinking about the lack of the £ for example.
Yep, that’s it. Just reprogrammed the keys to get the ones I need. You can actually do it in Mac OS if you use a Mac without going into VIA.
really thanks a lot for the review. i have a quick question does the typing easier than v1 cause I purchased v1 and made a lot of typo mistakes . so is it the case with v2 ?
Thanks buddy. Yes, it's different to know for sure whether this was the new board vs the different switches but I made signifantly fewer typos on the V2 with these Daisy switches vs the V1 with the Wisteria switches installed.
@@ThatMarkGilroy got it . thanks a lot for the reply
I have the air75 v1 and 96 v1…best keyboards I ever used, and I started to dabble in mech keyboards before these. I’m going to hold on the v2 since it’s not much of an upgrade from my 96 v1. Going from a air75 v1 to v2 seems like a decent upgrade tho
Yes and to be fair the Air96V1 only came out less than a year ago!
I get a bit confused on which switch to choose. If I want a more quiet sound but still love the click which one would you suggest?
If you check my most recent comparison video for low-profile keyboards you'll see a full sound test with this keyboard + wisteria switches. That's probably your best bet for quiet + a bit of a tactile bump/click. czcams.com/video/8ObbWxSVsa4/video.html
just ordered with ur code hope it helps
Thanks Nicky, it does! Enjoy the keyb when it arrives. 😊
Is the wireless adaptor signal any better than the v1? The signal quality on the v1 is so bad and I have to use the usbc cable.
MUCH better.
Are alo different to daisy as I didn’t see the daisies listed when I got mine?
Daisy has the absolute lowest actuation force/travel. Then Aloe, then the others. They're very similar linear switches.
I thought my review unit was Aloe until I took the keycaps off - hence the correction on screen!
Just one more thing, does the keyboard works on your computer BIOS mode? Both wired and 2.4ghz mode. I can't seem to get it working with either.
That’s odd- it should work in wired mode. Guessing you’ve definitely got the toggles switched to PC/wired round the back?
@@ThatMarkGilroy maybe because i got too many peripherals connected. Ill try disconnect some when I get home.
Nuphy Air75 v2 vs Keychron K3 Pro video soon please! Currently have the K3 Pro and would like to know main differences between the two.
This will be about a 30 second video. They’re practically identical apart from two key things - looks/styling, and audio signature.
I found the K3 Pro far too noisy (even with the brown switches) in the end.
@@ThatMarkGilroy Thanks for the reply and insight! Is the RGB on the Nuphy Air75 v2 any better than the K3 Pro?
Great review! Out of interest, which switches are quieter, the Aloes or the Daisy switches?
Thanks Paul- glad you enjoyed it! Aloes should be quieter as they have a lower actuation force.
@@ThatMarkGilroy thanks!
I actually like the bit of the border on the air75
Yep, I suppose it accounts for the sound being so much more pleasing than the Keychron. The keys actually have somewhere to go.
Just ordered the black moss.
Enjoy!
Great review! What of those new switches is the quietest?
Thanks buddy. Wisteria or Brown are your best bet for the quietest switches. If you're going for the V2 and you go with Wisteria switches you can expect it to be even quieter than the V1 set I show in this video as you'll have the benefit of the added dampening in the V2 board too. It's worth noting I tested this on my deskmat so that has absorbed some of the sound.
@@ThatMarkGilroy Thanks, just used your code for buying it :)
You’re welcome. Enjoy!
Side LEDs included in the "improvements" section have identical functionality on the original.
Not identical. The QMK/VIA functionality means you can customise these endlessly.
i actually have the v1 with me right now, i got it last December. Serves me quite well actually.
Yep, it’s still a great keyboard!
@@ThatMarkGilroy One upgrade they could do is storing the usb dongle on the keyboard itself, with like a pushing mechanism on the sides so that it sits flush.
@@Jade_d577 Good point!! It’s easily lost as it is.
@@ThatMarkGilroy Yeah, they’ve already done it on their regular (non low- profile) boards, I think the next version should have this feature.
How does this compare to the Keychron k3 Pro in terms of typing experience? Would you say it is better?
Did you see my Keychron K3 Pro review? I really liked the keyboard as an upgrade to the K3v2 but there's nowhere near enough sound-dampening in the out-of-the-box version. It's very, very noisy by comparison to other low-profile boards I've tried, even using brown switches. So no - other than the flush look of the K3 Pro, I much prefer this one.
Here's the link to save you searching czcams.com/video/rGl8S7mE38Y/video.html
@@ThatMarkGilroy thank you! And yes, I watched that video and upgraded my K3 because of it, so I may now do the same with this video and the Nuphy 😄
Which key caps should I get if I want more of a creamy feel?
I would say either Daisy or Aloe.
Are Aloe switches similar to Cherry Silver?
They’re both linear but different in terms of travel (to be expected given this is low profile) and actuation force too. Aloes should be faster if you’re thinking of using this for gaming.
Aloe specs:
travel distance
pre-travel: 1.7±0.4mm
total travel: 3.2+0.2mm
force
operating force: 37±15gf
end force: 40±5gf
Cherry Silver specs:
Travel distance
pre travel: 1.2 ‡0.4 mm
total travel 3.4 +0.4 mm
Force
45 +25 gf
No timecodes 😥
Also, please pay attention to deskmat. It changes sound a lot
Whoops - timecodes now added!
And good point about the deskmat - I guess it's an extra layer of sound dampening.
Do you know if there's going to be a V2 for Air60?
I imagine Nuphy will slowly upgrade all their boards to be VIA compatible as it offers so much flexibility for the user. Given the Air 75 was their first (OK maybe second) big success, the Air60 shouldn’t be too far away.
@@ThatMarkGilroy that would be cool, thanks for reply
The Azio Cascade Slim looks even better than the K3 but no idea how good it really is, not enough information on their page. Bought the Air75 V2 cause gaming, linux, programming is all covered.
Yes the Azio range look really smart - I've been looking at their retro range for a while. Possibly form over function though?! As you say there's not a lot of information on their site.
How is the latency with the dongle? Is it good for gaming?
Yes I’ve tried it with gaming with the dongle and it performs well. I’m going to be doing another comparison with this vs some of its closest competitors very soon so I’ll make sure I include some sort of latency test.
Which new switch of theirs are similar to the traditional blue switches? Is it the wisteria ?
P.s, love the edits of the video man. It’s very smooth and quite pleasing.
Thanks buddy. You can fit this with Blues if you like that feel/sound- they pre lube them so they come sounding really crispy (my original Air75 had blues on). Wisteria and Moss are both more like browns but with a different actuation force.
@@ThatMarkGilroy so out of the new key switches, which one is more similar to the blues ? Wisteria or moss
@@Turtlemilk Probably Moss.
@@ThatMarkGilroy ok one more last question, before i make a purchase which would you say is louder the moss or blue ?
@@Turtlemilk No worries happy to help! Blue will be louder.
I would buy this but it’s not in iso format, I work a lot in $ £ so how would this keyboard help with that?
reprogram a key in VIA
Yep- doesn’t matter with VIA, you’d just reprogram the keys and map them to be whatever you need them to be.
Thanks guy but I’m not sure if corporate networks will let you use VIA
If anyone knows great
@@ImranKhan-ub4ib it’s available as a web app now so you never know!
I like everything besides the back. I hate the transculent back and orange feet, imo it looks horrible and cheap :x But luckily I don't often look at the back of my keyboards and love everything else so I am patiently waiting for my own Air75 V2.
I have the ionic white V2 on preorder and I'm going to be swapping the switches out for Daisy as son as I can. I thought I was a tactile fan but these Daisy switches are 👌
love the way you give examples like the flight management and wine for dinner to explain things in a simpler manner!
Glad you liked it Mitesh!
What's the TLDR for V1 vs V2 difference? I can't believe I could find a web page that shows exactly that.
PS: So, I had to watch the video and it seems
* 5.1x USB polling late
* New key colour
* Back metal plate
* QMK
* Bigger battery
* New feet
Seems like except the QMK, all useless to me.
Hi! There’s a comparison table right at the bottom of the Nuphy product page (linked in description).
It’s not just the plate that’s new in the board makeup. The board has PCB IXPE plus silicone under the space bar which does give it quite a different feel to type on and sound absorption compared to V1. If you have the V1 switches you’ll also notice a difference as the 2.0 switches have different springs and are pre lubed.
But, if you’re just after the new switches, you can buy a new set for the V1.
Hi ! Do you recomend this keyboard for gaming?
Hi Francisco. Yes it’s good for gaming! You’ll be wanting the Aloe or Daisy switches and keep it in wired or 2.4G mode, but it’s pretty responsive.
@@ThatMarkGilroy Thanks for the answer! I buy whit the cowberry switches, i did wrong ?
@@FranciscoRodriguez-bq6bs Even better. I need to get me a set of Cowberrys!
Guys, I need help. Is it possible to switch the keys from ANSI to ISO DE Layout?
You should be able to do this using VIA. If you contact Nuphy for the key map they should be able to help.
Thank you so much! :) @@ThatMarkGilroy may I ask you which of the low profiled keyboards would you recommend Nuphy Air 75 V2 or Keychron K3 Pro?
@@rdm_ I’ve used both (the Keychron for almost a year) and I much prefer the Nuphy.
@@ThatMarkGilroy thank you so much🙏🏻
Can't wait to get an update about the pre-order status. Getting rid of my huge, fat, loud and buggy Razer crap will be so pleasing...
Hopefully you're not waiting too long,
I just got this keyboard yesterday. Bought it for office work. Im surprised how badly the 2.4ghz connection works with constant double input and missed input. Will try update the firmware later.
Yes that definitely sounds like a firmware issue. What machine are you connecting it to?
@@ThatMarkGilroy windows. Doesnt seem like an interference issue, literally put the keyboard next to the dongle.
@warnacokelat yeah. Hopefully that’ll sort it. Funnily enough I had the same problem with standard Bluetooth connection in the last couple of days which needed a firmware update to sort.
@@ThatMarkGilroya bit nervous to update the firmware. Cant find any how to video on the web to guide step by step.
Edit: figured out that the steps are same for qmk boards. Plenty of guides.
@@warnacokelatdid u see any improvement after upgrading the firmware? My v1 has the same issue, and considering if I should get the v2.
Any news if they are going to make ISO FR versions for us Europeans?
Unclear. Apparently it’s on the roadmap but no firm timeline. For now, having VIA means you can map an ISO layout to the keyboard as is (it’s how I’ve set mine up in UK ISO format). The only catch is the key sizes on ISO.
@@ThatMarkGilroy thanks for your quick response!
@@ThatMarkGilroy It means you have to 'reprogram' the keyboard through VIA and replace all the keycaps to match ISO FR? Would you recommend this?
@@DNNYRCRDS If you want this board with the full ISO layout, that’s the way to do it. There are a ton of good quality Etsy sellers who make Nuphy compatible low profile keycaps. Check out seller called Keycapsupreme.
Got any clue what the latency is?
Sorry, no. Based on RTINGS V1 tests you can expect Around 1-2ms over wireless 2.4gz for V2. And close to zero over wired. This is rapid for this kind of all rounder board, but if you need even lower latency, check out their Field 75 which is their dedicated gaming keyboard
Personally I like the border.
I think having some border frames the Kaps.
Personally & obviously my own opinion I see borderless keyboards as being cheap..
I guess thats because I have boards I have built that have cost me £600+ & when you spend £300 on a case I want to actually see it, hear it & feel it.
Makes total sense. 👍🏻
@@ThatMarkGilroy great vids! thanks for the time & the effort! subbed!
I like the bigger boarder of the nuphy
Yep a lot of people do! I’ll be making a comparison between the new Keychron K3 Max (they have so many K3 models now it’s getting baffling) alongside the Lofree Flow and Nuphy 75v2 in the next couple of weeks.
2.4 ghz keyboards is my go to, I don't use bt.
Yes, it’s superior in every way!
This , eksa glimmer or Lofree Flow ?
Lofree or Nuphy for me. Lofree feels like the serious alternative, Nuphy's a much more-fun option and the customisation for keycaps/switches is superb,
@@ThatMarkGilroy ah just notes that EKSA it doesn't have F Row !
@@samiRetro777 Yep- looks like a step down from both the Nuphy and Lofree!
I have the v1 of the Air75, wireless performance sucks. How’s the v2? Does it disconnect frequently?
Wireless as in Bluetooth or 2.4G? Not had any issues with V2 via either.
@@ThatMarkGilroy both. I’m using the v1 now in wired mode. Wireless (both types) do not work well with the v1.
Still only Windows software?
The Nuphy console (windows only) is being phased out. This is VIA compatible (and presumably future Nuphy products) will be), so you’re good for Mac & Linux as well as Windows.
This review also does not mention that v2 no longer has the globe/apple fn key. For many mac users, it is a deal breaker.
Pretty sure Version 1 of the Air75 never had this key either? And with VIA you can remap any of the other keys to perform the globe/apple FN key command.
@@ThatMarkGilroy I have left the same comment in multiple reviewers video and you are the only one that replied(cares about the feedback and the quality of reviews). 😀
@@ThatMarkGilroy Not sure what happens to my first reply. air75 v1's fn key is the globe key. v2 is using qmk, so it loose the globe key. The reason behind this is complicated. Simply put, qmk does not support globe key. There does exist a patch that adds apple fn key support but it will not work when using bluetooth and it also requires the user to build the firmware, which may not be easy for non-developers .
@@Leviathan-fu2sx hmmm. Thats annoying. I think Mac settings there’s a way to remap this in the OS. Let me look into it!
@@ThatMarkGilroy Yes, you can use the capslock as the globe key but it is far from ideal because then you loose the capslock. The only option left is to use some third-party key mapping software like karbiner. But it needs to install its kernel modules, which personally I do not like. For nuphy, I guess 2.4g may/should work with the patched qmk firmware though.
Wow, I'm surprised at how much it thocks for being a low profile keyboard.
Yeah, these new switches come pre lubed and the dampening they’ve put into the board is very noticeable.
I still feel the Keychron K8 Pro is much better, especially if you’re macOS/Apple-only.
I have the new K3 Max on order and have a comparison review video in the works. Watch this space 😉
My hands are female, how about this keyboard for shooter games?
It’ll work well for gaming. The extremely low latency is perfect for shooters.
just received good for typing but not for gaming ......qmk not support toggle mode so sad.
Sorry to hear that. I don't know about this mode - have you tried VIA?
£70 and I bite. Seems overpriced. The shipping is the final nail.
DO NOT BUY THESE! Buy the LoFree Flow. It is INCREDIBLE!!! I have the dark grey Tactile version. Flawless. Truly no complaints. I work at a desk for 8 hours a day with AWS and love it for just that. I use my high profile custom boards at house for gaming though. LoFree 4 ever.
Good news for you Adrian I’m testing out the Nuphy against the Lofree in a couple of weeks!
Wired 50 ms delay, no qmk, annoying deep sleep in bt mode - can you comment on that?
@@Kaylas1821 50ms!? I do not know where you got that from but that is not the case with mine. Solid feedback with typing. The entire board feels premium. Not a single component or piece of material looks or feels gaudy. The only thing that I can imagine being a complaint are silly things like "I dont like how the feet are fixed" or "other keyboards have a 3 week battery life instead of 1."
@@cryptik_official from one of the tests. Sadly modern reviewers ignore some important technical details and tests, so no other tests to confirm that. This input lag number forced me towards the nuphy air v2 instead of the Lofree Flow.
Well that's a silly excuse for a productivity/work keyboard. Have fun with your plastic Nuphy@@Kaylas1821