I have to disagree with the comments on bending component leads for PCB soldering. I'd say that the majority of thru hole PCB's I have ever seen had the component leads bent out (opposite of what you show) to some degree. This includes high end major brand audio gear that was made with the best machinery. As you said I think you should give it a go with the PCB's again. I do like those Panavises but anybody who is stuck using the helping hands here is a tip. Drill through the base of the helping hands and screw them down to a piece of heavy plywood. It makes them much more stable and usable. Also winding some E Tape around the jaws will help prevent them from cutting into the insulation on wires you might be soldering.
+DoItYourselfMusician I would never go back to bending leads, they encourage solder bridges particularly with tight pad / trace spacing, i just dont think its a good practice. A piece of blutack or tape holds the component more firmly down then bending, i just dont see the advantage personally. I have been using the panavise for pcb assembly since recording this video, its slower but less tiresome on my neck.
+DoItYourselfMusician Thanks for the helping hands tips. The tape thing is great and I'm gonna put a thick block of wood on my base to give me some extra height as well as stability.
+DoItYourselfMusician The Electrical tape around the jaws of helping hands is a great tip, never thought of this and feel rightfully ignorant for not thinking of such a simple but great solution. Is lead bending part of manufacturing processes? Something J.Coloccia does that I've not started using but should is to cut component leads before soldering to reduce shock and failed solder joints. Using Blue Tape to hold the components for soldering. Avoids having to use $75.00 anti-shock clippers.
I understand the worries where it comes to cutting the leads off after soldering but in practice I've never found that to be an issue. I've been soldering stuff for 20 plus years and never cracked a solder joint cutting a lead off. I do understand though and if someone feels more comfortable cutting the leads before soldering then do so. We all have our own way of doing things.
+DoItYourselfMusician Definitely, my way is pretty unconventional as i taught myself pretty much everything as far as electronics goes, but it works well for me. Blutack solves everything :D
Totally agree with anything that helps you feel comfortable when your soldering in enclosures!, I know I can think of times in the past when one of these would have made the quality of my work better so I'm seriously thinking about getting my hands on one of these.thanks
Thanks for a great video! Maybe I have a advice for you:-) I have a pillar that is height adjustable with the Panavise on top of, it does raise the whole ting to eye high and you can get really close with the pillar between your legs, in fact you can position it so that you can lean back in your seat and still solder fine. On the side, I have mounted a fan, to blow the fumes away. Hope that you avoid migraine in the future! :-)
+Michael Oriente EDIT: Isnt persistent blinding headache such a fun ailment to have? Hi Michael, yeah I can confirm it wont fit a 1590bb unfortunately. They are designed for holding pcb's of course but the can hold anything up to the 125B.
A tip gleaned from watching J.Coloccia's Horus build videos,3M Blue painters Tape over the components before flipping over to solder. Do it in stages, the resistors and IC sockets are easy enough. Capacitors become more difficult and could see using Blu Tack but still use tape to set them and hold for soldering. J.Coloccia has a bunch of pedal building videos with great ideas and practices.
Thanks for posting this video! How strongly can you clamp the jaws down? I've been looking for a better clamp to hold XLR and 1/4" plugs when soldering them, this looks like it could work. At 6:20 the head wobbles a lot when you're spinning the knob, is that just because the ball clamp wasn't fully tightened?
yes...those so called "helping hands" are more of a hinderance...totally agree...they are a pain in the butt....i modded mine to just use clothes pegs...much better grip...nice vise you got there..cool
What if you put all your components through the pcb or well... more of them blue tacked them and then put it in the vice? is there a specific reason you don't put all the components in place? I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to pcb. thanks for your time
Love the idea of the Blue Tack (Is that correct? Never heard of it.) Is this the correct name and anyone know what it would be called in the US? I really want some and suppose I could use some plumbers putty but that stuff looks sweet... Thanks, Buddy
+DIY Guitar Pedals if there is a cool way to do something, you sure know what it is! This is a great idea, I've just never seen nor heard of it but that's what Google is for. I'll find something. Like I said, I know plumbers putty would work nicely and I saw a post about using "Silly Putty" being used. I like my solder joints to be nice straight and cut fairly close. Thank you so much for this idea, that's why I subscribe! Have a great day!
+DIY Guitar Pedals Found it on Amazon and I got the actual stuff too. There is a whole page dedicated to the stuff... Bottom line, I'm in the know now!
I have to disagree with the comments on bending component leads for PCB soldering. I'd say that the majority of thru hole PCB's I have ever seen had the component leads bent out (opposite of what you show) to some degree. This includes high end major brand audio gear that was made with the best machinery. As you said I think you should give it a go with the PCB's again.
I do like those Panavises but anybody who is stuck using the helping hands here is a tip. Drill through the base of the helping hands and screw them down to a piece of heavy plywood. It makes them much more stable and usable. Also winding some E Tape around the jaws will help prevent them from cutting into the insulation on wires you might be soldering.
+DoItYourselfMusician I would never go back to bending leads, they encourage solder bridges particularly with tight pad / trace spacing, i just dont think its a good practice. A piece of blutack or tape holds the component more firmly down then bending, i just dont see the advantage personally. I have been using the panavise for pcb assembly since recording this video, its slower but less tiresome on my neck.
+DoItYourselfMusician Thanks for the helping hands tips. The tape thing is great and I'm gonna put a thick block of wood on my base to give me some extra height as well as stability.
+DoItYourselfMusician The Electrical tape around the jaws of helping hands is a great tip, never thought of this and feel rightfully ignorant for not thinking of such a simple but great solution.
Is lead bending part of manufacturing processes? Something J.Coloccia does that I've not started using but should is to cut component leads before soldering to reduce shock and failed solder joints. Using Blue Tape to hold the components for soldering. Avoids having to use $75.00 anti-shock clippers.
I understand the worries where it comes to cutting the leads off after soldering but in practice I've never found that to be an issue. I've been soldering stuff for 20 plus years and never cracked a solder joint cutting a lead off. I do understand though and if someone feels more comfortable cutting the leads before soldering then do so. We all have our own way of doing things.
+DoItYourselfMusician Definitely, my way is pretty unconventional as i taught myself pretty much everything as far as electronics goes, but it works well for me. Blutack solves everything :D
Totally agree with anything that helps you feel comfortable when your soldering in enclosures!,
I know I can think of times in the past when one of these would have made the quality of my work better so I'm seriously thinking about getting my hands on one of these.thanks
Thanks for a great video!
Maybe I have a advice for you:-)
I have a pillar that is height adjustable with the Panavise on top of, it does raise the whole ting to eye high and you can get really close with the pillar between your legs, in fact you can position it so that you can lean back in your seat and still solder fine.
On the side, I have mounted a fan, to blow the fumes away.
Hope that you avoid migraine in the future! :-)
I also suffer from headaches. I can already tell this is going to help!
Only downside is I didn't realize the stock jaws won't fit a 1590BB enclosure.
+Michael Oriente
EDIT: Isnt persistent blinding headache such a fun ailment to have?
Hi Michael, yeah I can confirm it wont fit a 1590bb unfortunately. They are designed for holding pcb's of course but the can hold anything up to the 125B.
A tip gleaned from watching J.Coloccia's Horus build videos,3M Blue painters Tape over the components before flipping over to solder. Do it in stages, the resistors and IC sockets are easy enough. Capacitors become more difficult and could see using Blu Tack but still use tape to set them and hold for soldering. J.Coloccia has a bunch of pedal building videos with great ideas and practices.
I have used a fly tying vise to hold a pcb and other stuff while soldering. It works quite nice :D
Thanks for posting this video! How strongly can you clamp the jaws down? I've been looking for a better clamp to hold XLR and 1/4" plugs when soldering them, this looks like it could work.
At 6:20 the head wobbles a lot when you're spinning the knob, is that just because the ball clamp wasn't fully tightened?
yes...those so called "helping hands" are more of a hinderance...totally agree...they are a pain in the butt....i modded mine to just use clothes pegs...much better grip...nice vise you got there..cool
I didn’t know they made a wheel for the 201. Just found the accessory on amazon. Thnx
My Panavise 201 came with the speed adapter. I suppose they are shipping it with the Panavise now.
What if you put all your components through the pcb or well... more of them blue tacked them and then put it in the vice? is there a specific reason you don't put all the components in place? I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to pcb.
thanks for your time
Thanks for the blutack tip :) I have always (well, I have just made a few pedals) bent the leads and it is quite annoying.
put a piece of wood or plastic or something to hold the blue tac in your vice and then it will be up higher for you
+Jonathan Kosyjana ...i feel like an idiot for not thinking of this...lol
lol.well at least you can give it a try now,take care.
Love the idea of the Blue Tack (Is that correct? Never heard of it.) Is this the correct name and anyone know what it would be called in the US? I really want some and suppose I could use some plumbers putty but that stuff looks sweet... Thanks, Buddy
+Buddy Martin Blutack is awesome stuff, i use it for everything... czcams.com/video/C4ACT2w93Mc/video.html
+DIY Guitar Pedals if there is a cool way to do something, you sure know what it is! This is a great idea, I've just never seen nor heard of it but that's what Google is for. I'll find something. Like I said, I know plumbers putty would work nicely and I saw a post about using "Silly Putty" being used. I like my solder joints to be nice straight and cut fairly close. Thank you so much for this idea, that's why I subscribe! Have a great day!
+DIY Guitar Pedals Found it on Amazon and I got the actual stuff too. There is a whole page dedicated to the stuff... Bottom line, I'm in the know now!
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Hey +DIY Guitar Pedals , how do I go about creating my very own effect? Like what exactly are the variables and what does each part in a pedal do?