NASA's 70 Year Old Abandoned Moon Base
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Just want to say, as an American Tax payer, I’d much rather had this 55 Billion moon base than the pointless Vietnam war that cost almost 55,000 American lives.
Still, it is deeply saddening that military expansion was the primary motivation for such project.
Build infrastructure. Affordable housing. So many things one could do instead of sending 60 billion to Ukraine in unwinnable war
Would you have said the same in 1942? Germany was is a much, much better place to win its war than Russia is today.
@@dan-bz7dz Maybe just stop spending $$$ that we don't have?
@@erazerhead99 And who was it that beat the Germans, it was Russia, not America. That's not relevant either way. Completely different warfare.
That space station at 12:55 graced my grade school lunch box. I still have the lunch box. It’s in the cabinet with the good China. I will never part with it! 😊
Nice
"REAL CANNABIS INSIDE" hahaha, homie googled "space cookies" and looked no further. lol, great video!!!
Will toke to that
@@Aeonshield YUP I hear ya there
I paused the vid just to say what you beat me to.. 😂😂
Going to need something to combat SPACE MADNESS
"Breaker breaker, come in Earth, this is Rocket Ship 27, aliens f***ed over the carbonator on engine four, I'm gonna try to ref***ulate it on Juniper. Uhh, and hopefully they've got some, space weed there, over. How... how was that buddy?"
So...a moonbase from 1954? That's 70 years ago, we couldn't even put a satellite into orbit yet
No. That was the planning report. If they got the commitment they were seeking, and started the program in 1959, they were hoping for a lunar base by 1966. I think they were talking in "Elon time" even back then. But it is possible they could have achieved their goal by 1975 if Congress and the President cooperated.
Politics is the only thing that restricts our expansion into space.
If everyone would be willing to donate even SOME of the money they are perfectly happy spending on Sports, Booze, Weed, bullshit items from TEMU and internet Porn, we would be on Mars by now.
As far as the public knows. You think they got to the moon in those tin cans they showed us?
@@mr.timebombman2230 Yup. Any reason why not?
@@tommymorrison6478Unfortunately they travelled there like “spam in a can”. I would have preferred they took shuttle craft Galileo or teleported there but hey-ho.
I love the idea of claymore mines and tactical nukes on the Moon! The whole thing is bonkers and it seems like someone just dusted down the plans recently…
Imagine if all the countries in the world decide to put all the millatary budget to space exploration together!
Aliens must see us as a primitive specie. All this potential and we're close to wiping out humanity in nuclear war.
Profit > everything else
China and Russia would invade all the now defenseless nations
A United World the possibilities are endless.
Some countries see being first is better than corporating for the good of humanity. They want to dominate other countries at all costs. It's sad, really.
i would question your characterization of musk and of the 1950's moon base planners as "overly optimistic". they might just as easily be characterized as "appropriately optimistic". and just because eisenhour identified more important priorities.. does not mean that those 1950's planners were "overly" anything. that said, it could be argued that instead of spending all the money and lives we did on the vietnam war, it would have been better for our nation to have spent that money building up our extraterrestrial capabilities, for military, industrial, and scientific supremacy purposes. recognizing this, would imply that, actually, "overly pessimistic" world-financial forces were blocking what might have been a much better path for the USA..
As a fan of the space program since watching it all especially the moon landings as a kid, until that happened we weren’t ready to build something like that on the moon back then. But, after Apollo, we should have been moving in that direction and kept developing better tech and science for space, starting with a larger 2001 Space Odyssey wheel space station for manufacturing etc.
Typical White men mentality, assuming the whole world are your slaves ... LOL
Well said agree completely.
Maybe I'm missing something, but shouldn't the low gravity and absence of air resistance make firearms more effective, not less?
That grey shades and documentary style of video is inredible
ooh, nice use of red. Seems like I might have been the only one to get it.
One of the saved videos. Love you guys and you deserve the break!
Some people don't even believe we've been to the Moon let alone 20 years before we were supposed to be
One hundred years later, we see a proud moonbase with a huge crew of three astronauts....
🚀🏴☠️🎸
😂
Don't forget the 33 empty whisky bottles strewn about by Buzz Aldrin from his moon buggy dwi.
33 🤣😂🤣
The man is a freemason after all... 😁
Fascinating! Thank you for this history lesson
The main problem was the crew reaction to the copious amounts of space cake.
I think you have a few things wrong. I was in the 2nd Grade when it was announced that the Soviets had gotten into space. I'm a 70yo male so figure it out
Great explanaitions. Wonderful!❤
"Breaker breaker, come in Earth, this is Rocket Ship 27, aliens f***ed over the carbonator on engine four, I'm gonna try to ref***ulate it on Juniper. Uhh, and hopefully they've got some, space weed there, over. How... how was that buddy?"
Cannabis cookies and brownies...Sign me up!
Eisenhower was the last president who left a balanced budget.
Clinton had a surplus for the last 3 of his years
Incorrect
@@williamwilliamson1096 OK We are waiting. Who was?
Bit about the space guns, nowadays we have self oxidizing gunpowder. Space guns could 100% be developed, check out the specialized underwater guns as somewhat of an example.
I would like to see chickens in 1-6th gravity. So graceful.
😂😂😂😂
I wonder how many of these space scientists/politicians saw the 1950 movie *Destination Moon* (sorry, I don't know how to set italics) before deciding on this scenario. Robert A. Heinlein wrote the story and co-wrote the screenplay.
This movie predicted the Space Race 10 years before it actually happened. Some of the details were way off base, but considering this movie predicted the race to the moon 10 years before, Heinlein and company got a lot of things right, especially the military aspect. It makes one wonder if Heinlein somehow jumped ahead 10 years and saw Sputnik and the launch of the first Pioneer and Mariner probes, then jumped back to write his story.
Still more plans than we have for todays moon base.
I'm currently working on a first person videogame set on Sverdrup crater in a lunex base.
This whole project is as mad as a box of frogs. Everything about it is sheer lunacy (see what I did there?)
*Groan* Dad Joke...🙄
Thanks for another great video.
You know, I'd be really interested to learn about how Space X (and others I guess) make their liquid oxygen and methane.
Especially if they ramp up their Starship launces to the thousands.
Refrigeration.
Apparently 1960 tech could make it to the moon but 2020 tech has problems making it to low Earth orbit. Who'd have thought.
Interesting To Note, merci.
Amazing, your videos teach me a lot around giving me a solid news about the topics I’am interested in.
The X 20 dyna soar was to be used as a hypersonic military bomber,too.
Interesting history lessor. In contrast the Apollo program cost $26 billion ($260 billion in todays dollars) so the estimated cost of this program at $55Bn seems wildly optimistic as did the timeline.
It will be interesting to see how China's space program is thirty years from now.
They had this base! I was there! I lived on Space Cakes!
Ah, yes, the horrible Moon Wars of the late 1960s. Pepperidge Farm remembers...
The idea that the metal suit could “protect against meteorites” is ludicrous 😂
10:07 in this video:,....Real Cannabis inside. So they got high every day on the Moon. Wow!!
I'm glad you saw that, I thought I was seeing things.
Heh, at one sixth gravity how high you could get :)
10:10 I doubt this is what the astronauts used to get so high 🤔
4:22 *Tons*
4 nuclear reactors for a base with crew capacity of 12. Not suspicious at all.
Need some backups and also they probably had to be really tiny
See Corso's book for these pictures in full. The Day After Roswell. Absolute garbage, but worth a read when you're stoned.
if you are after viewers outside of the USA, then start including metric measurements. Stating pounds only applies to the USA and a couple other countries. The rest of the world uses metric.
I bet 'Space Cake' was an intentional interaction with the audience. You know what we all know! ;)
Cool
Title implies a lunar base existed in 1954, not that one was discussed, starting in 1959. BTW conventional firearms would work BETTER in a vacuum and the Moon’s lower gravity. The Davey Crockett was a menace because its propellant increments were not reliable and it had a tendency to drop its nuke short, where the shooters were still within the blast radius.
What about tactical nukes at the moon base?
That would be a violation of international law and completely unnecessary
@@dan-bz7dzAnd they did it anyways
8:31 How would they cool the nuclear reactors?
And how would near zero gravity affect the cooling pools?
Molten salt reactor
Yeah, those cooling towers are schematic.
It would have to be radiators.
The description of the proposed Saturn series of rockets, from 5:00 on, is sloppy: the payload must decrease with eash successive stage, being least for the one at the nose simply because the payloads of the first stages to fire included the whole of all successive stages.
The script here claims the opposite. Silly error.
1965...About 60 years delayed. That amount of expenditure would not have significantly impacted the budget. You are forgetting all of the research breakthroughs that would have come about from the project that would have easily justified such expenditures over the years. The Manhattan project was, arguably, a much more wasteful expenditure.
We've sent over $100,000,000,000 dollars to Ukraine and have absolutely NOTHING to show for it.
The people behind this project 70 years ago were ahead of their times and true patriots. What we have now is companies like SpaceX building on those ideas. Saturn rockets were a direct consequence of that original project. Many breakthroughs came from it that ushered in modern electronics. Eisenhower, ironically, was in fear of the militarization of the "space race" and now decades later it is not the Soviet Union, but China that is positioning themselves for supremacy in the "space race".
oh hey, Kyle Hill also made a video on project horizon. great to see more content around it
this video explains NASA narrative, why no more moon missions after 50 years
If it was never made or even started then by definition it was never “abandoned.” Stop trying to make it sound like this was even a serious thing.
Why don't they clean that mess up.😢
Is this the one used by Stanley kubrick? The one in a warehouse in Nevada? 🤔
Immediate like do not let me down or ur channels done 😂😂😂
COOL
Well looks like Space X has this Job now and the sights are looking up for Elon and America.
This was before Tang.
I’m calling cap. If that was real we wouldn’t be surprise by “anomalies” on the moon.
why don't they tow the international space station to the moon, kinda likecamping for a holiday?
😮😮do you have any idea of what it costs the government to just make up these plans and designs?🤔
Germany here ... what about our Moon Base? Decades ago we constructed one on the far side of the Moon. Watch the Documentary "Iron Sky".
We don't like to talk about Nazi's still being on the Moon.
nazi space program go brrr
They either crashed into the moon or are all dead from resource exhaustion or lack thereof. I don't think that's something to be proud of.
@@sethjansson5652 So you didn't watch the documentary "Iron Sky"?
Ja the Nazis have been mining helium 3 for decades, they probably have a colony on Mars and Europa by now
In orbit refueling was a required part of the lunar missions as envisioned in 1959. SpaceX will finally achieve this fairly soon or our current lunar and Martian ambitions will fail.
Yeah sure they will.
The Chinese manned lunar lander program requires docking two modules in LEO to build the spacecraft and then send up the crew in LEO before setting off for the Moon.
Would had been great, had the US not dropped funding.
Well, I never knew we had a lunar base! I knew we had *plans* for a base. However, I believed that the number of launches required was determined to be so high and the costs so expensive that it was believed impractical.
I can’t wait to watch this video to see how we pulled it off and how long it was operating before we abandoned it!
i bet you believe we went there too. let alone a moon base.
Yes, true.We didnt, astronouts did@@user-hx5qv4kd6
@@user-hx5qv4kd6 I guess sarcasm didn’t show through in my remark.
wait wait wait WAIT WAIT 55billion over 8 years for a moon base!!?!?!!? WE SPENT 200Billion on the F35s over 10yrs.... wtf lol
Good sci fi show
At 10:09 who seen that ZAZA
The 1950's version of "Dear Moon".
Was at one time known as the “space race” .
That plan went well……..
Would be like, but dislike for white flashes in the cuts. It hurt my sore eyes. Please consider making other frame gluing, for example dark ones. Or fade-out and fade-in of transparency.
The US was so terrified of Soviet engineers that they went to the moon! 😂
More like german
Proposed moon base project. It was NOT a realistic project. 🤔 Where do you think scifi series such as Space 1999 came from?
The idea for the moon base came from over indulging in space cake maybe?
Dude you don't know shit. "Firearms will have reduced effectiveness due to reduced gravity and lack of atmosphere."
Both factors would make for amazing ballistics on the moon. The main problem is getting the guns to cool down, but you can just bolt a bunch of heat sinks onto the barrel since the gravity is low. A rifle that would be 60 pounds on earth would be 10 on the moon.
Wasn't he just reading off info from the document?
It would _weigh_ 10lbs, but it would still have 60lbs worth of inertia, which is not easy to deal with in low gravity.
I guess you'd get your moon legs eventually, and the mass would help with recoil.
Pipe dream
Looks like we could use the greenhouse and mines on the moon, to inhabit other moons,like "Ioes" ? The moons of Jupiter and all. One looks like a water ice moon. That would be the place for an aqua separation gas facility to make hydrogen and oxygen for breathing and fuel for the opperation of the facility with more to spare as replenishment of the Rockets that get us past orbit. Shipping oxygen to Mars LOL yeah.
So glad someone is doing this video!
This is GOOD - Where have you been?
Thanks!!
Question: if they could do it in the 1950's, why are they struggling even to launch rockets to the moon today? Doesn't make any sense...
Did you forget a word? "NASA’S 70 Year Old Abandoned Moon Base PLAN"
😂😂 Editor caught being lazy
a mere trifle
Plan! Abandoned Base Plan.
Small note: conventional weapons would actually work better BECAUSE of the low gravity and lack of atmosphere. They would keep their velocity for longer.
53 billion today!!
Hell, we give more than that to Ukraine
Nuclear reactors!? Hahaha...yeah, right.
china would have built that already china built its own space station and is expanding it
And they are planning a moon base with the Russians.
Touching down rocket motors on the moon or Mars for anything other than humans and supplies is lost money.
Needs paint.
Project Horizon just sounds cool...why would nobody invest in that?
That is the plan that both the USA and China is developing right now.
Let's rewatch it after starship 6 testing
ai laura croft : 😡 i want space cake!
Cannabis cookies!!
the mighty German minds 🤩
There was and still is looner bas3 which the artic German s rented from the draco in 1940s
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Seems like a lot of nuclear.
Dude, you're prolly the only one who actually watched the video.
MoonBase Alpha
Operation drawing pin.
To be honest. As long as they send a good supply of free weed and enough resources to produce good tasting food. I'd go live on the mars.