Scoop marks in the Oya Quarry Japan
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- čas přidán 30. 11. 2023
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Scoop marks are one of the perennial mysteries of the Lost Ancient High Technology narrative. They can be found in many ancient quarrying sites around the world.
Here's one example of how some of those could have been formed. It doesn't explain them all but often I hear in comments that they are a total mystery. Requiring advanced technology that scoops through hard stone like it was ice cream.
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This is very cool. Great find.
Was on the latest UnchartedX video. Someone there knew your channel after I mentioned it. Numbers will grow! Keep going strong!
THANKS for the SCOOP on this story.
Man, those underground quarries are insane. So cool.
Yes very. Looks like a Harry Potter/LOTR location.
Not as impressive visually as they are tunnels rather than large chambers but Odessa catacombs run over 2000km. For quarrying the limestone for building.
It’s real life Minecraft 😂
what makes me skeptic about your theory is that you don't sell any books, nor provide any guided tours for finger-pointing validation. 🤔😅
I have a collection of merch coming out soon which includes chewed pencils, unmatched pairs of socks with pre-made holes and slightly used bars of soap.
😂
Yeah I gotta say the lack of the use of the word precisionly has me dubious of how precise these guys are. How are we supposed to trust the science if we aren't told repeatedly how precise it is anyways!?
So next time have the quarry workers wear some new SGD merchandise shirts with "Precisionly" on the front and back in big bold letters just to clear up any doubts so people know they're pros will ya ya?
Geeze man. So sloppy! Get your shyt together already!
We need guys on camels and donkies shaking us down too for the real full affect!
And we need at least one doofus to stand in the cave quarry and do a few "Ummmmmmmms!" So we know it's tuned to the right frequency too btw. How do we know if those rocks are tuned dammit!?
😂
@@SacredGeometryDecoded were you trying to make soapstone?
That's literally what the majority of people like unchartedX do lol. You can write a book about finger pointing, it'll be the same thing.
So refreshing to watch and learn without being bombarded with grifter scams like books and tours and ultimately bullshit. Thanks SGD.
This was a good video. No finger-pointing, just the facts. This is the best way to bring people over to your side of the argument.
You're off the edge of the map matey! 👍
Very cool to see this, I'd always wondered how the scoop marks came about. Makes perfect sense.
yep, i've been looking for some of those rock splitting wedge combos, can't seem to find any used ones at the usual spots, yardsales, flea markets, thrift stores etc. i don't think the average person knows what the heck they are. i have a large mostly flat rock i'd like to cut up into managible sized blocks. it's suspended on some other rocks, and i have it dug out under it. roughly 12x 14 feet. i'ts been getting cold enough to maybe freeze crack them, mid 20's already . but i don't have them prepped for that, yet. i have an old chop saw that i thought about cutting a grid channel 1/8 th inch wide a few inched deep , maybe drill some deeper holes in the corners. then fill the channel with water on a super cold night. with any luck, it might freeze bust some loose. i could dob something in the water channel {caulk?} the next cold night to make it hold water as i remove blocks ? i years "heat treated" part of the flatrock. but it released some huge peices i can't move by myself. it's an old n-indean trick, if you build a bond fire on a large rock it will heat up and bust, sounds like fire crackers when they break loose.. it's good for removing something in your way, but i sure would like to make usable blocks out of the rest the flatrock.
it's about a foot thick on average..
Yeah, fire setting, splash water on them after heating to really break them up.
Also recently watched a fella break up blocks with "masonry cut nails" he got from his hardware. Still not an easy job by the looks, I'm not a youngun anymore myself.
Wouldn't explain all of the scoop marks but a good few of those sites would fit in with this technique.
@@SacredGeometryDecoded yep, i'm too old to be going for scoop marks. if i could convert that rock to 12x12x12 inch blocks it would be cool, and a lot of work. i thought about the masonry nails, but that's a lot of holes to drill. and i messed up my hammer drill. an electric jack hammer might be a good way to make nice size holes.
i watched an aqua chigger{channel} video, he finds holes and digs them out to find caves. he drilled a few holes and put some "little helper" blasting charges in , and blew some rocks apart that were in his way.
wow thanks for this, very cool to see those scoop marks visually on the ground like that, looks exactly like egypt. btw those pictures of the quarries at the start are so cool!
Glad you enjoyed it
WELL WOULD YOU LOOK AT THOSE SCOOP MARKS! Fantastic video!
Good video
Love your videos.... Already shared to explain to some Dunn and Hancock addict how they "won't get fooled again"...
thanks!
Great find. Thank you for sharing
Amazing as always!!
simply science and research versus speculation and fantasy
Nice I can appreciate your theory! I think we’re just lost in our ways, unable to look at things with the perspective needed. I believe we worked way harder than we realise and ourselves are just shells of what we could be.
Thank You For this video. The scoop marks on the obelisk in the aswan quarry had always confused me. It was one of the few things that still had me totally stumped. This explains it perferctly and there a little deeper on the obelisk due to weathering prolly. THANK YOU. these videos are great. Would you go on Rogan if he asked???
If he ever visits Australia I wouldn't say no.
Do you really think he would even considers this? He is too much into this woo woo woo nonsense to change his mind, believe me.
We know you photoshopped this quarry, these men, those scoop marks. You want to make huge money on your tours… oh wait, you don’t do overpriced tours… you are just a boring honest researcher telling the truth … how precious you are … thanks mate!❤
I have a deal with Dreamworks to do the CGI. ;-)
I can't lie bud ur absolutely smashing it!!
Unreal, thanks for sharing! But no star alignments 🤔
That's always something I point at. Cultures all around the world worked hard stone. Not in identical ways necessarily. Yet similar enough to get the job done. Similar problems require similar solutions. This isn't friggin' hard to understand lol.
Fantastic video
cheers
Good stuff bud. Very cool find. Makes perfect sense. This explains the scoops in the wide open areas now.
So, around the obelisk in Aswan, specifically around the obelisk. I think i need to rethink my theory i told you about. I think its a mix of the two for the scoops there. After seeing this i think perhaps since they didnt have the fancy "plunge" cut chainsaws the "test" pit is a big clue. I think they drilled those around things they wanted to cut out to make holes for the teams of men to pull a saw between the two holes. Then perhaps snap the rocks off between the large drill holes.
Then i think they used the spring arm hammers i told you about to undercut it, and drill the intial pits to saw from.
Makes sense to snap the large portions of material away vs pulverizing it.
Good stuff my man!
Fascinating. Thanks.
3:11 Aahhh, interesting!
Nice piece of research
So impressive! Please do a video with a closer look at the marks!
fantastic.always wondered about the scoop marks.thanks and respect..maddog.West cork
Love your channel man, thank you for thoroughly debunking the charlatans!
My pleasure!
What, people used to make things by hand? That doesn't seem even reasonable.
Oh come on now, you know all the ancient stone monuments were built by aliens that look like lizards using lasers. I know it's true because a CZcams video said so!! Besides, I like exciting thoughts bouncing around in my empty head,🥴. Excellent video by the way!!
Hi bro. Hope things are good. What that erm "slurry" that guy is using?. It that something like lime maybe? Just curious 1:04
just looked it up. They didnt use lime. "lime might not be the most common choice, other substances like clay or simply mud could be used to create a slurry that served the same purposes of cooling, lubrication, and dust suppression."
When did they cut the pillow faces with nubs on them?
I have some videos on those, if you look at stones from back or when side view available they are rough. No cutting on those. They are fitted only at the front and fine tool marks closest to joins.
There are unfinished stones in places such as machu Picchu that show the process. Pillowing is from rough corners at joints being removed to leave the tightly fitted portion.
At :22 is the image on the left half a mine in Vermont or is the right half picture of Vermont a different quarry? That is really cool looking.
Just a fact: Vermont (The Granite State) passed a law stating that all igneous rock from Vermont can be (must be?) sold as granite, even if it isn't a true granite. (I don't know if it is still the law or details - I just happened to start watching a geology course from The Great Courses and in showing true vs false granite the instructor passed on the information. I also realized it was somewhat silly for me to start watching a course on geology in November when I won't be seeing a rock again until May!)
I believe they are the Danby marble quarry in Vermont.
I'm told there is a something of a competition/dislike between Vermont and Maine over granite.
ROCKFACING AND SHAPING STONES (Part 13) Mike Haduck on Mike Haduck Masonry channel has a great tour through the Maine granite museum and the guide is great.
@@SacredGeometryDecoded I'm not sure, but the dispute might be between New Hampshire, which officially calls itself the Granite State, and Vermont which unofficially calls itself the Granite State (officially it's the Green Mountain State). But I wouldn't put it past Maine and New Hampshire to be arguing over it as well. (I'm in northernmost Maine so I tend to not pay attention to that southern stuff). BTW, The Maine Granite museum is on Mt. Desert Island where Acadia National Park is located - BEAUTIFUL place!
Interesting vid. Do Stralian quarries start at the bottom and work up?
Back in the day the correctly had South at the top of the map. The world has been upside down ever since.
Love the video. ❤
Seems pretty straightforward, at least. Maybe you've already covered it in another video that I haven't seen (please direct if so), but how do you reconcile the established orthodoxy's narrative regarding the use of dolerite pounding stones to explain the scoop marks against this? It seems like this would make much more sense as this is a plainly obvious and established method for quarrying stone rather than the nonsensical claim that people pounded away, for what would have to have been at minimum years on end, using what seems to be the most unintelligent and ham-fisted method imaginable to quarry granite chunks.
I think there's a mountain of round dolerite pounding stones next to the unfinished obelisk. Maybe that the reason.
This would explain some but not all scoop marks. I have series on aswan quarry. Originally they found rounded stones as well as pointy ones, they ignored the pointy ones. The rounded ones are worn out, the sharp ones are much better tools. As good as a steel pick really. Even steel tools in old quarries worked the same and take a long time.
By using fire though the stone can be broken very quickly and easily. "Fire setting" is name of the technique.
Then with pounders of steel or stone it crumbles like weak sandstone.
There are scoop marks in Aswan that still have foreman marks where different workers were given an area to work, the ridges being the inbetween. These ridges can then be broken off fairly easy with a good whack.
Peru has squarish scoops too in some of their quarries but smaller and on vertical surfaces. In Egypt the squares on the floor and the long grooves on the walls.
Combination of methods depending the circumstances.
Someone noted on Easter Island there are also scoop marks on the ground about the size of a mans work area.
It's tough work, even with steel tools. Like a work gang in prison breaking rocks in the quarry. Long hard labour.
@@Akimos Yes, and to my point, the claim that the mere presence of a mountain of these stones being found near the obelisk proves that they must have been used in the most ill-advised, time consuming, and physically hazardous manner to quarry the stone is absurd. Makes more sense with the fire setting technique, but I wasn't aware of this - which is why I asked. Even for something like a prison gang or slaves, endless pounding away exclusively with dolerite stones would yield no consequential results and would destroy their bodies in the meantime. It's still long, hard labor, but actually doable with implementation of something like fire setting.
@@SacredGeometryDecoded Thanks. I'll be checking out that series.
@@ShoesMagoo Yes. That's what I think, anyway. Fire setting and sharp-edged dolerite pounders. That would explain the discarded round pounding stones.
'Oya stone is soft and easy to cut.' That's no granite.
Pretty sure I never said it was granite.
Only that it behaves similar when broken in that manner.
@@SacredGeometryDecoded In Assuan, the ripples are from granite.
I don't believe you. I am going to this quarry to perform a cotton wrap test.
Great video, as always. This nonsense LAHT shit has to stop. I see on YT shorts that many try to monetise on this stupid non sense. That YT does not consider it misinfo is beyond me.
Looks like the work of alians
the correct spelling ;-)
Man I wish I could go and film in one of those contemporary quarries in Vermont or wherever. ...Off to the quarry Stone Henge's Bluestones are thought to be taken from in Wales today. ...must admit I will have one eye open for scoopie-doos.
...To stickle, just a little, not all scoop marks fit these characteristics, Aswan for example is genuinely perplexing... don't reckon those were created by splitting.... I personally am yet to hear a logical explanation for their creation, that genuinely explains why those marks have the characteristics they have.
[... Alien Laser Butterknives aside.]
[Edit 2: I'm making a filum at present here... not sure footage of that quarry will fit in it, if it doesn't, could send it over to you if you'd like, as per Irish drystone, let us know.]
I have a series on Aswan and offer thoughts on them, there are a few classes of them there. In description here I say this doesn't explain all but some. Also a lot of people saying they could only be explained by advanced tech.
Though in Aswan on some of the vertical ones there are some that still have traces of foreman's marks and dates of progress.
cheers, yes i'd lvoe to have a look see
There are similar scoop marks on Easter Island where the unfinished moai heads are intact.
Made with pounding stones that are still found all around those sites.
Basically, one worker pounding away at one area within their reach for hours.
Thought long and hard on the pounding theory... and drawn many a diagram over the markings there trying to think it through... but it doesn't really make much sense why they'd channel a regular concave surface like that, it does on first glance but it doesn't hold up to close scrutiny in my view - the amount each strike would remove is a small fraction of that curve so it would have to be intentionally done, which is pointless, may as well just cut it flat. ...Also the upper surfaces don't reflect a team when you actually study them - they change axis through 90 degree from one to the other often and aren't in a fixed grid, neither of which fits a line of workers.
Other stickler is there's an overhang left at the top of various vertical surfaces there which again is a very curious feature if cutting in from the top - cutting an overhang back into a surface that isn't on the workpiece, when cutting down, would have to be purposeful and therefore makes very little sense when you consider that would take time and serve no purpose.
Also, the horizontal striations running across the scoops doesn't resemble a pounding signature at all at various points... there's some very curious characteristics to those striations.
Personally, I think we're looking at a lost fire-setting craft there. It's the only explanation I can see at present for what's observed - charcoal and bricks were found on the site. The overhangs make sense then, as they would likely work bottom to top then to maximise the efficiency of heating.
[I wonder too if the dolomite stones were being used to manoeuvre pieces, Wally Wallington style, rather than for pounding, which seems a pointlessly brute tool when they were perfectly capable of making adzes etc. ...If they were using them it's likely they'd not have left them on the sight as the handles would have value even when the tips would wear out - and they are likely to be used as firewood etc. if broken. Cutting a concave scoop like that would potentially make a little more sense if swinging a tool with a longer handle creating a natural arc, either through the strike or in cutting away 'layers', from one side of your stance to the other across the surface as you progress.]
@@SacredGeometryDecoded Aye, granted, those scoops do attract LAHT theorists. They are the one thing in all this that does make me feel they had skills there, or were wielding a craft we are ignorant of today. (A Lost Ancient High CRAFT maybe 😉)
So wheres the aliens?
Didnt see any
Probably stealth
OK so how do you explain all the scoop marks in my pants?
beer, whiskey and late night take away?
Keep bangin on em allan
👍
New "fetish" unlocked, i'd love to visit one of those quarries
i'd like to move in one, that's some cool looking structures.
I don't think we have any underground stone quarry in my country unfortunately, all that I know of seem to be "open" to the air, we have underground old salt mine though, i have not visited it yet but it has similar vibe as those stone ones
@@terberusp7030 i'm in alabama, there are a lot of caves here. i'm about 7 miles from catherderal caverns. it's 3/4 mile long, the state took it over and fixed it up nice for tours. search utube for vids if yu like that kind of stuff
So i'm guessing you're gonna want some millions of years to transform pumice and fly ash into quality counter tops.?
Or can you pop some in your crucible and press out a sample bit like gem quality diamonds are produced in 12hous.?
I'll pass on the unripe seafloor quarry for a future generation and take what the dinosaurs set down in the long ago.
@@SacredGeometryDecoded I've said it before, you might wanna run some of your ancient theories past a guy who actually digs up dino dongs with meat dna still attached. Local AU Arachnologist Professor John Mackay. BTW: The fringe lunes are really pushing the U A-lie-N climate agenda so cudos to you for debunking 2% of the narrative alien problem, but heads up, if you're stuck thinking Elongated skulls' rockets "actually"go to mars.. might still be an easy sucker to quickly fall back into line camp XXX with the rest of em, when fakeX space pope blue beam pops in.🤔
We are willing to look, but still no, could have been good theory but granite does not brake like this stone does. Observe the underside of the stone as it is taken from the ground, it's extremely rough. So with out even investing time to lookup the hardness or other characteristics of that stone. We can say this rock is soft, like sponge cake compared to granite.
all the granite cores i broke out take out scoops. It does break like this stone.
Granite comes out smoother has been my experience
Though as in description this is not an explain all scoops. Yet so many videos and countless comments insist scoops require lost tech etc and that therefore scoops are evidence of advanced lost tech.
Now that uncharted X has addressed the the provenance of the recent vase scanning videos, can address the the vase videos
He declares “impeccable provenance” but Chris Dunn on recent Danny Jones podcast says provenance is a problem.
Which one is it?
A declaration by uncharted x is hardly something to take serious given his track record of lying.
Even with a clean history a person with no background in the field is not someone to verify provenance. I declare that the pieces I made are predynastic. Therefore it makes it so?
Though I have already shown in a recent demo how to recreate two major parts of the impossible by hand tool precision with hand tools.
Will he address that? It’s easy and fast to test the results for himself. Or respond to those over easy to recreate and test experiments that came before going back over 3 years.
Or I should invest months of busy work for him to lie about?
After watching your videos for the last couple of years, I am always reluctant to say 'something cannot be done by hand or simple tools'. My next comment might be unpopular on this channel, but I do find one aspect of the vase videos very interesting indeed (so I hope they can scan some from museums).
The interesting thing for me is the potential design intent. Forget about whether it is done by hand, simple tools, or heavens forbid LAHT.
A lot of these items made in the harder stones that appear in Djosers pyramid and the museum are pre dynastic, and if there is sacred geometry coded (slight pun intended) into these vases that is very intriguing indeed.
I'm more interested in knowledge than LAHT, if they were making items in pre dynastic times with sacred geometry in mind, that poses a lot of questions about how old this knowledge really is.
Great video
OK....what is the provenance?
@itsnot_stupid_ifitworks well they have a few of them now. They have come out of private collections so people will always question the provenance in that case I think.
But they are now approaching museums and asking to scan, so that's where it will get interesting.
@edfu_text_U_later you just did a roundabout way of saying Ben at Uncharted X has never said where they were found or when they were made. They could have been made last year for all we know
Decode my arse!
no thanks
wrong platform, bro.
Funny! Wildly off the target, yet you are blissfully unaware. What motivates you to carefully not pay attention to the most important details?
Such as?
These scoops look nothing like the ones near the unfinished obelisk. They were working in a much tighter area too.
czcams.com/video/eDXJnCjhqDU/video.html
Aswan scoop marks,
there are several types, the ones on horizontal surfaces look a lot like these.
Point is you don't need advanced scooping machine sot make them.
A tight area for machines perhaps - but not necessarily for people. There are loads of old mines around the world as an example filled with narrow tunnels - some barely large enough for a man with some hand tools to crawl through and work in.