Tips to Increase Bow Draw Weight WITHOUT the GYM
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Thanks for saying my lats are a powerhouse. I needed that today
Well watched this this morning. Went outside increased my poundage 64lb to 70lb. Shot 12 arrows at 70lb never did this before. Great tip.
That's awesome! I'm glad my explanation helped! Thanks for sharing!
Apparently when they brought up the longbows from the Mary rose the draw weight was 180 pounds, absolutely true, the English archers were immensely strong,
Form wasn’t rly important for them as they just kinda lobbed arrows down range.
That is fucking insane. Apparently they could shoot through plate armor as well.
2 years old but they actually had deformed skeletons from shooting them
@@Default71677 Deformed? Or... adapted? lol.
Archeologists have confirmed they did physical damage to their bodies shooting that much weight.
That was excellent! Just turned 65, and this will help using physics vs pure strength.
I'm completely new to Archery, and I was pulling back exactly like you showed at the beginning of the video. Made an immediate impact. Great tips :)
I went from struggling to half draw my 50 pounder to almost poking the back of the handle with the arrow. This is good stuff.
Starting with keeping your weight on your leading foot is a great tip, that's something my coach never mentioned. Thank you.
But yeah, the first thing we were taught in target archery is to never draw across the chest. You tend to struggle this way and when you do the arrow has a tendency to fall off the blade rest esp in the last few inches of the draw cycle (although that isn't a problem with captive drop-away rests and whisker biscuits). Even if you get away with it, you'll only physically last 1-2 dozen arrows at the most before you over-exert and completely lose accuracy. The other is the efficiency of movement - the bow arm has to start off at eye level and it doesn't move, so that when your draw hand has completed the draw cycle it anchors immediately and all you have to do is let the dot in the scope seat itself into the 10-zone before executing the shot.
I have watched this several times just to remind myself. Thank you!!
Yeah I've messed up my delts a couple times. Elbow is key, I used to have mine low. Hands at eye level, elbow up, straight back. Used to have bow pointing up too.
Bro I just came across your video OMG thank you so much. Ive been hunting for 4 years and Ive always used a traditional Bow at 50 pounds or a crossbow depending on how desperate for meat I am. I just bought a compound yesterday and I was struggling to pull it and have been in the gym for 1 year constantly. This all makes sense now based on how you described it and Im definitely gonna practice with it tomorrow thank you
When I first started shooting bow, I was shooting instict and needed a ton of shooting throughout the summer to get my accuracy. By mid summer, I was shooting up to 3 straight hours solid without breaks. I increased my draw weight by 10-15 lbs also. That was almost 20 years ago now. Then I lived out in the country and shot whenever I wanted. Now I live in town and am not allowed to shoot inside city limits. Plus I am older, have had back issues, and injured my draw shoulder 5 years ago. I am excited to try this out and practice drawing back at home to work on the muscles to build the strength and muscle memory so when I do target shoot I'll be a step ahead.
doubledroptinehunter hopefully this will help let us know how it goes! Hunter has had two shoulder surgeries and this is how he has adapted to draw his bow so hopefully this will help you work around injuries, good luck!
Watching this after struggling to pull 70lbs. Honestly had no idea how to do it, was using all rear delt, as you've mentioned. I workout a lot too. Was a bummer that I could barely pull it. Thanks for the tips.
Great video. As a new archer that has struggled with finding a draw form that is pain free and increases the use of my back, this video is spot on. For me, my trigger is both a high elbow and low release hand. This seems to engage my lats the most and allow me to draw back pain free.
Excellent form! I pull a 65 lb compound and 55lb recurve no problem this way and can shoot all day long. Good advice regarding forward position too. I'll give that a try!
I’m first time bow hunter, that’s how I started out, pouring above straight back on my shoulder is sore. Going to give it some time to heal up and practice what you have on this video.
Thanks a lot! That helped me drawing 55lbs on the first day owning a compoundbow( I'm 15)
Thanks dude
More importantly, shoot your bow when it's not nice out as well, shooting 70 pounds when its 75 and sunny, vs 20 degrees is a different animal. Shoot when it's cold and you're muscles are cold and you'll find your true draw weight .
Yep,watched this last night.New to archery,6 months. Went out 2day and put this to the test.Was struggling a bit with 55lb.Boy,not any more.Dont normally leave comments,but this deserved one.Thanx a million.Tony Gordon New Zealand
Tony Gordon glad it helped! Best of luck this season!
Man, I wish I had come across this earlier. 6 months into bow shooting and thinking about increasing draw weight before season. Just tried this coming in over the top and it feels 10 lbs lighter. Well described. Thanks!
Finally... someone not telling me to sky-draw the bow. thanks for the helpful tips!
Airianna Johnson I mean I shot that way for years but I pull straight back not down just straight on targer
wohou maan! that helps me a lot! because last week ago im looking for a Bow. i just start like the old style with only bow or crossbow (but bow is so cool) and i'm thinking of 50lbs for my first bow ever. i shoot with bow 10 years ago when i was a kid :D so i need to learn the right technique.
3 days ago i saw your video about $250 vs $1100 bow and you motivated me for buy a bow.
i'm glad to youtube recommend me your video!
Greetings from Slovakia (sorry for my english btw.)
Dokruteny David welcome to the sport! That makes us happy that our video has motivated you to get into the sport! It is so much fun and you definitely will not regret it! If you need any help with anything always feel free to ask! A lot of our videos come from people asking questions. We built this channel to do our best to help people getting started in archery or hunting so we are super happy that you found the channel!
Thanks for that I have a really bad shoulder and trying to look for something easier
Yes practice, practice practice I shot a great 11 pointer last fall after shooting every day in the summer than just a couple of weeks before opening day like I used too,,So it was getting dark quick. moving deer 30 yards out of came out from nowhere and was walking in and out of cover. I had seconds to put it all together,, you brain goes into auto pilot mode and MUSCLE MEMORY kicks in. That's what the thousand of arrows I shot before helped me developed..
This was a good one! Rock forward, elbow up. The thing I like most was that he pointed out, and touched his lat. I did that too when he did it. Very thorough and informative video!!
Glad it helped! Have a great time shooting your bow!
Wow I got a torn shoulder for years that is an ac and cc tear. That tip just made it so much easier and no pain in my shoulder
Looking forward to trying your pointers later today. Seemed to have hit a wall, and I think I am doing exactly what you described by just using mostly shoulder.
That is helpful. I have a bad drawing shoulder and have trouble using back tension.
Your video helped me. I was thinking of going to a much light draw weight. Now I think I can stay at 65 lbs.
Thanks to this I was able to get use to my new bow starting at 55 now I’m increased by draw weight to 60 this trick help a lot
Wow, best rendition of how to use the back muscles,, well done!
Great video on the draw technique. Now I want to critique your shooting technique. Get your finger hooked around the trigger on your release and pull through the shot by bringing your draw elbow straight back and focus on using by squeezing your rhomboid muscles to make the shot go off. Trigger punching is a bad habit and can lead to target panic!
New archer. Just upped my draw weight and this advice really helps.
Thanks!
Very good video, Practice, Practice, and more Practice . Biggest problem people are over bowed. They cant draw proper, and create real bad habits. Starting out with a proper poundage and draw. Lots of proper practice. Practicing all spring and summer everyday. Do a deer season. Then the following spring jump up 5lbs, and start the same process over again. 5 lbs is a huge difference. When it comes too drawing a bow and releasing a arrow. With the proper form.
Excellent info. Thank you. I'm brand new to the compound bow. I picked one out for Christmas. Can't wait to try out better form.
Dumbbell lawn mower pulls work wonders
Thnks i feel the different so much. I almost injured myself with my technique
Andy Khaer glad it helped! Most importantly always keep your shoulder health in mind. If you have to back weight down to get the proper form that is ok! Safe shooting
This help me!
I’m new to archery and have struggle with shoulder pain, this has helped me a lot.
Just saw tips, just tried it . I pulled 56 pound now I can pull 65 pounds. It feels very good thank you
Excellent technique video. Thank you from a new shooter!
Heck yeah man. Thank you. I just bought a new bow and it has 60 to 70 pound limbs on it so this will help with the heavier draw weight a lot. Thank you
Yes thank you one of the best explanations I’ve seen thank you!
I was skeptical of your method at first. I have an arthritic shoulder as well as a bad elbow. I can say I am skeptical no more. It really helped me take pressure off the shoulder and elbow.
Todd Browning that’s awesome to hear, so glad it helped!!
Todd Browning inside out archery has a good video on it too, shows a bit different style of draw(not saying either is right or wrong) but his method for shooting with injury or preventing it uses more of a push pull method and uses even more muscle groups. I tore my labrum a few years back and have gotten back to 70 lbs with push pull since I have no stability or power the way he’s showing in this video. Again, neither are the right or wrong, just worth the watch to see if it helps!
Spencer Bultman great point, inside out has a lot of great videos as well. Each person is the same, my brother has had 2 shoulder surgeries and he utilizes the way in this video. But each shoulder is different so most importantly do what is most comfortable for the shooter
Man this video is amazing, it has helped me so much!! Thanks a ton!!
KeepDoubtingMe glad it could help!
I'm still working my way up to 70 pound. Slowly get there. Currently sitting on 50 pound and I'm pretty well stuffed after 100 arrows. Brunk Outdoors, I'm going to fine tune my draw as you have demonstrated and see how i go at 60 pound. Thanks for the excellent video and cheers from Western Australia.
Increase poundage most people are stuffed after 30-40 arrows and that’s completely normal
Great advice! I have found that different muscles engage during the draw cycle and one might have to adjust depending on where the peak weight or hump is on the draw curve of your bow. Good tip on starting leaning forward and pre-tensioning the lats for early peak weight. For later peak weight, it helps to go chest proud to engage the big muscles between the scapulae. The best exercise I have found are gym ring crossed rows with back straight and parallel to the floor, pausing 2-4 seconds at the top.
The repetitive nature of drawing a bow can't be overstated in developing the muscles used in drawing a bow, in my opinion. I was shooting one day when a friend happened to drop by and watched for a while. He asked if he could shoot and I said yes. He was able to make the draw a few times and then everything started to fall apart for him. Obviously I was able to draw so much smoother and for a much longer period of time because muscle memory, or training if you will. What surprised me was how much stronger this guy was than me (baseball player just out of college) and how I was able to draw all afternoon without having the arrow jump off of the rest like when he shot. We were both in our early 20's when this happened. Don't be afraid to get out there and shoot at a lower poundage to develop that form. Thanks for letting me share.
Jonathan Howard exactly! Thanks for sharing! Shooting a bow is definitely a muscle movement that needs lots of repetition to master. Just like you said if stronger people don’t know how to activate the correct muscles during the movement their strength is useless
This helped me a lot, I’m ten years old, don’t weigh much, but because of you I’m pulling back 35 pounds, I’m also left eye dominant and right arm dominant.
Alan Pardnt that’s awesome glad we could help!
I cant wait to try this out. Just ordered a new bow, motivation for hunting season.
New to archery and scrawny as hell, look forward to seeing how well these tips help me
Thanks Brunk, just got a 70lb Obsession and glad for the tips
Thanks. Just got my first bow at 51. Can't draw it because I'm probably just doing it wrong. Been going to the gym to try to get stronger. Will try the better technique.
This perfect for ideal conditions. People should be using a draw weight they can draw under any conditions. Sitting, standing, tired after moving, from a tree stand, from a saddle, when your caught in the open, and most importantly when you have buck fever! A lot of things have to be going right to be able to get into that position in a tree stand or ground blind in the deer woods.
You can get into this position anywhere. The key to this is in the upper body portion. I’ve drawn my bow in numerous situations and have always had no troubles. You can use this to activate your strong muscles in any stance.
Amazingly simple and effective tip! Thank you!
65 years old, pulling and lifting all my life has destroyed my right shoulder in there somewhere. I'll give this a try and hope for less pain and easier draw. I found when letting off, if I lower both shoulders, put my draw arm to my side and let the bow come back I don't have to pick my arm up off the lawn anymore.
theguyinmaine Letting down is definitely more violent than pulling back with today’s high let off bows! We sure hope this helps, keep us posted!
Really appreciate the advice. Great video and helped me with getting my recurve pulled back.
Tried it today and worked. Thank you.
Thanks for the info @ 81
- I need to be more efficient !!!!
Also try using a recurve, you don't draw fully with a compound only about 10-20% of the draw is the full poundage
depends on the bow
Great simple form outline. Thanks for sharing
Just used your suggestion and actually it works well, thanks a lot!
verwolfpack glad it worked well for you! Best of luck this season!
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I pull back to my chest like you showed, that’s how I’ve always shot. I have tried to switch to the right way but it way more difficult and I can’t pull back nearly as much as I could pulling to my chest
HFV Squad that’s because your smaller muscles are used to it.
Watch Cameron Hanes and look how he draws his bow.
Great explanation. I run several gyms and this is spot on 👍
Thank you so much. Saw a bunch of videos but yours actually explained how to pull the bow. I just got a bear approach and had a tough time drawing it. Thanks again!!!!
Zafar Sharif glad it worked for you! I’m glad my explanation made sense! Have a great time shooting your new bow and best of luck this season!
Very great explanation, I have learned to shoot by teaching myself and I have always pulled with my shoulder until this last fall I tore a muscle from shooting a newer heavier setup. I will be testing this draw method out, thanks for the great video
Kenneth Gettmann that’s too bad to hear! Hurting shoulders are not fun, I hope this helps you. Hunter has had 2 surgically repaired shoulders and this is how he also draws his bow too. This pulling position definitely feels better on my shoulder so I’m hoping it helps you as well, make sure to keep us updated and thanks for watching!
Another great video guys! I miss all the archery videos you guys made way back when! You two have a lot of knowledge and have taught me a lot over the years.
Thanks for watching Will! Glad you have enjoyed the bow videos! We realized it has been something that we haven't done for awhile, we used to put out so many! Now we have a hard time sometimes coming up with more bow tip videos! We will be having lots of turkey videos coming for a little while but will keep working to get more archery tips out! Thanks for your continued support!
It actually works. I needed that tip. Thanks
Jerome Brown glad we could help thanks for sharing your results!
I shoot almost everyday year-round, when I can't shoot outside I can shoot in my basement it's almost 20.yards wall to wall.
When I was younger (20s) I shot an 80 lb Martin firecat now we're back in the 80s way before you were born.
At 60ish years old I shoot around 70# both of my hunting bows.
When I draw I hold my Bow straight out in front of me and I do the high back elbow draw that takes a lot of strain off of your shoulders and back.
Also with a high elbow draw when you come back you're peep and everything should be aligned you're coming right back into your anchor point there's no other movement I noticed the way you do it you're drawing way below your chin then you have to raise your hand up to your anchor point which is fine if that works for you.
The main thing is shoot and shoot often I try and shoot at least 50 arrows a day.
I'm betting I could still draw 80 lb today.
But what's the point with modern bows they are so fast anyways
Interesting video and well put together but I can't agree. Drawing back with your elbow down, in my experience and opinion is a way stronger and safer position, especially for your shoulders.
I've been shooting 80lb bows for a number of years and never once had a shoulder issue and never had a problem pulling back a bow, even in seated or kneeled positions and cold and miserable conditions.
Each to their own though, what works for some won't always work for everyone.
Keep up the quality content 👌
Tony Gillahan thanks for watching Tony! You’re right that it may not work for everyone, biggest thing is for everyone to try to preserve their shoulders!
@@BrunkOutdoors spot on man! However anyone does it, if it's hurting or if they fatigue early, they need to do something about it! 🍻
@@tonygillahan i am 100 percent with you. I draw across my chest and try to keep my elbow moving parallel with the ground until i anchor. My shoulder will not allow me to draw like shown in the video. I do like how you dont have to as much moving finding your anchor point when you draw like this
@@jordanpowell228 it does require slightly more movement to find anchor for sure, but I'd rather that than a stuffed shoulder.
@@tonygillahan if you draw across the chest on a shooting line you be reprimanded, and if your unable to draw using the back you`re over bowed
Thanks, good advice.
The Best tip is....Shot,Shot and Shot ;) Shot recourve and Compoundbow. The recourve give endurance and the Compoundbow drawpower. so i greatly improved my skills in a few weeks
That makes a lot of sense thanks for the tips
Nice video, good advice ... I trust anybody who's smart and uses the same Bowtech Realm X as I have lol.
kidsolo36 it’s a great bow! Thanks for watching!
I don't struggle with drawing as much is bow wobble after hold at full draw
Harvey hold out 5/6lb weights straight out
Great video. I already have two messed up shoulders my left one has a torn rotary cup and my right one has one of the three top muscles that go over tore, and a detached bicep and the two muscles that hold the ball into the socket got tore up. I can only do 64 on right arm with compound, and working on recuve for left arm at 60.i play all time in house when nasty outside with lefty righty recurve for motion.its just 40 lbs. I think this motion is where i was getting to, now be quicker, thanks for fantastic tip.
botfoblhrp glad it helped! This way has helped our shoulders as well as we have had surgeries and injuries from sports. Hope this helps yours long term and always remember it’s best to turn the bow down if it hurts! Happy shooting
@@BrunkOutdoors i believe what you said that also helps strengthen things for everyday living. I drive big box truck for living and after year playing wih bows, i can steer truck wih either arm alone now. Plus i love playing wih them. Thanks again.
Its not what your can draw but what you can let down imo. If you are hurting yourself letting your bow down you need to drop the draw weight.
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thanks; this sort of stuff is a great help for beginners like me.
Good info dude, keep them coming..
Bobby Martin thanks for watching Bobby!
thanks for the tip
recently been having problem drawing my bow back, hope this helps, nothing worse than having your trophy show up and not being able to get to full draw☹️
Great advice! Thanks!
Good stuff. Great tip and demonstration!
Well done. Thank you I learned something new.
Troy Webb glad you liked the video! Hope it helps!
Thanks for the tips!
Thanks this helped me go from 60lbs to 80lbs
Nice, have to try that, thanks.
I'm 46 years old and haven't shot in over 20 years......and I have to admit I never had proper form, just had the strength to pull the bow back..... went to test a bow out the other day and I was embarrassed because I couldn't do it......Im still pretty damned strong but it felt like I couldn't even come close to pulling it back..... but after watching this I'm going to give it another go ......I want to get back into hunting real bad
Great instructions 👍
You're a really valuable web video; couldn't make it without ya!
compoundbowpro glad you’re liking the videos! Thanks for watching!
Very well done & the timing is excellent. Practice makes perfect & proper form & practice makes the whole thing seem more natural. I would also like 2 add if more people through the summer months practiced sometimes by shooting a recurve where u aim while u r drawing back that it would make people more aware of the proper process of what muscles r involved since there r no shortcuts with 0% letoff.
Joseph tread lightly you are totally right, Hunter has a recurve bowfishing bow and one summer he shot it a lot and noticed that it made shooting a compound bow seen way easier after he switched back!
@@BrunkOutdoors when bowfishing 4 true trophy fish u will have fish u can see & draw on with a recurve that u will never fire a shot on with a compound due 2 the fish sinking & disappearing right in front of u.
Psssst, still go to the gym, and use your technique. Great video.
Great tip
Big difference! Thanks.👍🏽💫
The Sword of Kings glad it helped!
Been shooting like that for awhile but I'm getting old now might have'ta drop a couple pounds off that 70+ is getting tougher every year
Pat LeClere nothing wrong with dropping down! Bows are so efficient and powerful now that you really don’t absolutely need to shoot 70lbs to harvest an animal. Will it help break bone? yes but in our opinions it’s much better to preserve your body as best you can. So I’d rather drop draw weight instead of having to deal with shoulder problems or pain.
Great video and tips well done mate 👍🏹🏹
Awesome video thank you
Thanks for the tips
God bless spread his word!
Iam going to used , i just , did buy my first bow and i was to sent it back , today becouse i never had on. Iam going to follow you tips and see what happened
Thank you!
Its crazy how even guys that are in shape and lift a lot still have problems drawing back my bow and its only 65 pounds. Then they see me pull it back with ease and im rarely in the gym. Its all about the technique. I have recently been hitting the gym more and also using the technique that Sarah Bowmar showed on Bowmar Bowhuntings videos about using cable exercise to increase draw weight. I wasnt looking to increase my draw weight but i was looking to increase my holding time at full draw. After just one week of using that exercise i gained a ton of stability and holding time. Im doing it at he end of all my workouts now.
Obsessed with the Outdoors what is even crazier is those same people somehow think it is a supernatural feat of nature to comfortably draw 70 lbs with ease lol. They use their “I’m in shape” as a crutch to say “I can draw it I just don’t think it’s necessary”. When in reality if they could draw it with ease then why wouldn’t you try to maximize your draw weight? I get kind of fired up about this topic because it annoys me haha but you nailed it, it’s all about the reps!
@@BrunkOutdoors heck yea man. At 65 lb draw i am blowin through deer and burying the arrow into the ground at 20 yards. I cant really ask for much else. I have a mathews creed which has an oversized cam for easy draw cycle. Takes no effort at all to draw. Cant wait to be in the stand this yr im pumped!
Obsessed with the Outdoors same here, starting to feel like fall more and more!