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  • čas přidán 15. 08. 2024
  • Welcome to our latest video, where we dive into some of the Royal Navy's most unique and specialized ships from World War I. The Royal Navy, thanks to its material wealth and strategic necessities, was able to create vessels for very specific purposes, resulting in some truly unusual designs. Today, we explore three fascinating categories: the monitors, the Courageous-class battlecruisers, and the intriguing HMS Agincourt.
    First, we delve into the Royal Navy monitors, small ships with big guns and shallow drafts, ideal for coastal bombardment. Tracing their origins back to the bomb ketches of the late 17th century, these monitors were revived during World War I under the guidance of Admiral Jackie Fisher and Winston Churchill. Designed to break the stalemate of trench warfare, these vessels carried heavy artillery, including 12-inch, 14-inch, and even 15-inch guns, and were crucial in campaigns like the Dardanelles and the Dover Patrol.
    Next, we examine the Courageous-class battlecruisers, also known as large light cruisers. These ships, including HMS Courageous, HMS Glorious, and HMS Furious, were conceived for Fisher’s ambitious Baltic Project. Armed with powerful 15-inch guns and designed for high speed and shallow drafts, these ships had a unique blend of characteristics aimed at operations in the Baltic Sea. HMS Furious, in particular, underwent significant modifications to become an early aircraft carrier, showcasing the Royal Navy's innovative spirit during the war.
    Lastly, we explore the story of HMS Agincourt, a battleship with a truly unique background. Originally ordered by Brazil, sold to the Ottoman Empire, and ultimately seized by the British at the onset of World War I, Agincourt boasted an unprecedented seven turrets with fourteen 12-inch guns. Her service during the war, particularly in the North Sea, and her distinctive design make Agincourt a notable part of naval history.
    Join us as we explore the histories, designs, and operational roles of these remarkable ships. Don't forget to like, subscribe, and leave your suggestions for other interesting naval vessels in the comments below!
    Intro 0:00
    Royal Navy Monitors 0:50
    Courageous Class 9:06
    HMS Agincourt 17:27
    Conclusion 26:51
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Komentáře • 56

  • @ImportantNavalHistory
    @ImportantNavalHistory  Před měsícem +18

    Thanks for watching everyone! I hope you enjoyed this odd little video, I plan on doing some more like it, not only for the Royal Navy but for other navies as well!
    Edit: The thumbnail is a photo of HMS Erebus in 1938, serving as a turret drill ship. The building under her 15 inch guns is a gym/recreation facility.

    • @leighmenzie5904
      @leighmenzie5904 Před měsícem +1

      I love this channel, I could listen to stuff about warships for hours upon end, the Royal navy I think still makes some odd duck ships. Ships such as the t45 look wacko

    • @hazchemel
      @hazchemel Před měsícem

      Hahaha that explains the shed aft. Thanks for the video.
      I heard a little, about interesting submersibles constructed by the Regia Marina between the two wars, including a kind of sea bed crawling tank with tools on arms.

    • @tidaljunk
      @tidaljunk Před 29 dny

      Not a bad video at all, though you are mistaken on the monitors with 18" guns. They weren't "testing" them, the 18" guns were moved to the monitors when taken off HMS Furious during her build and subsequent conversion to aircraft carrier.

    • @ImportantNavalHistory
      @ImportantNavalHistory  Před 29 dny

      @@tidaljunk I don't think I was very clear when I said that. I am fully aware of Furious's conversion and her gunnery trials with her aft 18 inch gun. The monitors tested the guns in actual combat, something that Furious never did. Again, I should have been more clear.

    • @thecherubchannel3507
      @thecherubchannel3507 Před 16 dny

      Great Video!!

  • @nickviner9489
    @nickviner9489 Před měsícem +7

    I was a junior seaman doing sea training in 1964 and remember seeing H.M.S. Roberts in the distance and being told it was a monitor. I wish I could have got a closer look at this bit of history. I am now knocking on for 77 years of age but I think she was in Devonport dockyard.

  • @user-xb1wh5mt4l
    @user-xb1wh5mt4l Před měsícem +14

    Fun fact: the Italian Navy had Regina Elena-class battleships which were the fastest pre-dreadnought battleships (actually faster than the Dreadnought), carried two main guns in single turrets and a large secondary battery. They were designed by Cuniberti, who was quite an influence of Fisher.

  • @Otokichi786
    @Otokichi786 Před měsícem +16

    1. Big gun Monitors.
    2. "Courageous" class battle cruisers.
    3. HMS Agincourt.

    • @grahamwalker5693
      @grahamwalker5693 Před měsícem +2

      HMS Agincourt was being built for Turkey but it was taken by the gov for the RN who did not really want it due to the size of it guns

    • @ROBERTNABORNEY-jx5il
      @ROBERTNABORNEY-jx5il Před 9 dny

      @@grahamwalker5693 Originally for Brazil and the RN was glad to have it - its 12 inch guns were the same size as 9 British battleships and 6 battlecruisers

  • @SennaAugustus
    @SennaAugustus Před 14 dny +1

    "I have just been having a long talk with the Chancellor of the Exchequer. He has agreed to our building light craft to any extent we can up to a light cruiser. The Chancellor did not say how big the light cruisers could be, so we will build two whoppers, with 15-inch guns, and speed enough to run any German light cruiser off the face of the ocean."
    They were also known as the Outrageous Class with individual ships known as Outrageous (Courageous), Spurious (Furious), and Curious (Glorious).

  • @averagewikipediaenthusiast3088

    Another interesting topic imo are the planned battleships of smaller/poorer nations like the Greek Vasilefs Konstantinos or the Spanish Reina Victoria Eugenia

  • @LastGoatKnight
    @LastGoatKnight Před měsícem +8

    I have a video suggestion: hybrid battleships. Doesn't matter really which country but I'd prefer talking all of them at least on mention-level

  • @DaveSCameron
    @DaveSCameron Před měsícem +2

    Much appreciated young man once again, I am watching this after England just beat Holland to reach the Final of the Euro 24 this Sunday vs Spain 🇪🇸 which is a wonderful way of rounding off this evening. Best wishes. 👏⚽️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇪🇸

  • @fullfacility
    @fullfacility Před měsícem +3

    For all their limitations, the Courageous sclass were handsome ships with a well-balanced appearance.

    • @ROBERTNABORNEY-jx5il
      @ROBERTNABORNEY-jx5il Před 9 dny

      And a waste of money as until they were converted to carriers no ne could figure out what to do with them.

  • @garyjohnsen8756
    @garyjohnsen8756 Před měsícem +1

    Great video, one of your best

  • @user-ou9hr3uy3s
    @user-ou9hr3uy3s Před 25 dny

    Enjoy these videos. Well presented good info and quality narration. Thank you I'm glad I subbed!

  • @rickwhite8793
    @rickwhite8793 Před měsícem +4

    With all the research you must have too do its a wonder you can manage 1 video a week let alone more especially with college as well... so thank you. 👍 Its always interesting when its something a little more unusual. Do you only cover up until the end of WW2? I only ask because i was thinking about a couple of ships post WW2. HMS Valiant or the carrier HMS Hermes of Falklands fame. Cheers 👍

    • @DaveSCameron
      @DaveSCameron Před měsícem

      Top comment 👍

    • @ImportantNavalHistory
      @ImportantNavalHistory  Před měsícem

      I can definitely go beyond WW2, I think the farthest I've gone outside of WW2 is the Novorossiysk disaster. Also, thanks for the kind words! I've really got to stop making these videos so long, it's getting hard to produce them!

  • @mkaustralia7136
    @mkaustralia7136 Před měsícem +1

    Loved it

  • @ROBERTNABORNEY-jx5il
    @ROBERTNABORNEY-jx5il Před 9 dny

    The14 inch guns were from Bethlehem Steel in US and were supposed to be for a Greek battlecruiser being built in Germany. That was obviously not going to happen so the guns and mountings were sold to Britain. Because of the gun's origin, the four ships were originally given names of famous American Civil War officers, but the US protested this violated its neutrality so they were renamed

  • @nicoferguson1215
    @nicoferguson1215 Před měsícem +1

    Oohhhh, could you do a video on the Brazilian Monitor Parnaíba?

  • @stuew6
    @stuew6 Před měsícem +1

    Also US Alaska class Large Cruiser

  • @Thumpalumpacus
    @Thumpalumpacus Před měsícem +3

    Odd ships -- US Atlanta-class AA cruisers, amphibious command-and-control ships of WWII, and Japanese amphibious assault ships of the same war. Japanese Army transport carriers, too.

    • @ROBERTNABORNEY-jx5il
      @ROBERTNABORNEY-jx5il Před 9 dny

      Atalantas not odd, compare to Britissh Dido's. Both were the product of 2nd Naval London Treaty limiting cruiser size. US AGC's not odd, compare to British LSH's

  • @vbprogman
    @vbprogman Před 28 dny

    HMS Argus, the merchant aircraft carriers and the CAM ships.

  • @ROBERTNABORNEY-jx5il
    @ROBERTNABORNEY-jx5il Před 9 dny

    8-15 One of the 3 ships modified to mount a 18 inch gun in a limited traverse mounting pointing to starboard.

  • @robertguttman1487
    @robertguttman1487 Před měsícem +6

    When it comes to odd battleships USS Mississippi rates mention if only because she was the only WW-I era dreadnought ever to have been armed with surface-to-air guided missiles.

    • @ImportantNavalHistory
      @ImportantNavalHistory  Před měsícem +1

      Boom! This is what I'm talking about! Perfect recommendation, thank you!

    • @ROBERTNABORNEY-jx5il
      @ROBERTNABORNEY-jx5il Před 9 dny

      But NOT as a battewagon, she had been modified as a gunnery trials and training ship

  • @lyedavide
    @lyedavide Před měsícem

    A great video on some of the lesser known RN vessels. I can't help but feel that Churchill was quite the scoundrel in his dealings with other nations in all of his capacities as a RN officer and as a politician. I've often wondered what monstrous battleships the Queen Elizabeth class battleships had they been armed with 18 inch guns. Thanks for another interesting video!

  • @iantobanter9546
    @iantobanter9546 Před měsícem

    My dad served on Erebus in Operations Neptune and Infatuate. Thanks for posting this video.

    • @ImportantNavalHistory
      @ImportantNavalHistory  Před měsícem

      Well if you’re around for this Saturday, I’m posting a full video on Erebus!

  • @robhartley3930
    @robhartley3930 Před měsícem

    The monitors were not used to test the 18in 40cal guns, that was HMS Furious, they were used to allow the guns to be used after removal of the aft one from Furious, the forward turret was never fitted. Furious did fire this once.

  • @TheSmokie25
    @TheSmokie25 Před 28 dny

    My father told me a story a long time ago. Saying he served on a ship that he could walk around, which I thought was far fetched. He told me it was called HMS Roberts. After a bit of research this was the bulge in the hull he could walk on. This would be flooded to lower the ship so it was a stable platform to fire the guns.

    • @ImportantNavalHistory
      @ImportantNavalHistory  Před 28 dny +2

      Well, if you would like I have this video. HMS Roberts: The Last Big Gun Royal Navy Ship
      czcams.com/video/fm0uRN3VoKA/video.html
      I also have some books in the description in which you can read about your father’s ship. She truly was an amazing ship.

  • @jp-um2fr
    @jp-um2fr Před měsícem +3

    It feels rather to find an American who is 'fair' when it comes to the Royal Navy. I take it you are not a relative of Admiral King, who in my opinion should have been shot. He delayed the introduction of the convoy system because the Brits invented it. This cost the lives of many American, British and many others. Gawd we had some idiots (Mountbatten - Dieppe) but as usual you lot like to be the best.

  • @joemaloney1019
    @joemaloney1019 Před měsícem

    I always thought the Courageous class had similar requirments to a high speed double monitor using a large cruiser hull optimized for shallow draft.

  • @ronroche3138
    @ronroche3138 Před měsícem +2

    How about USS Vesuvius?

    • @DaveSCameron
      @DaveSCameron Před měsícem

      Sounds quite interesting..👍👏📚

  • @rogerstevens6068
    @rogerstevens6068 Před měsícem

    Good film. TY. Ideas... How about HMS ZUBIAN (WW1). The joining of two WW! Tribals?? One bow section and one stern?

  • @ethanjacques-n9p-catch21luck7

    I have three ships for suggestions
    you already covered Furious because I was one of my top five
    so the three ships that are my favorite is USS S1 submarine
    HMS Dreadnought if you haven't done it
    And USS Cruiser Pennsylvania

  • @andybelcher1767
    @andybelcher1767 Před měsícem

    Hi, an excellent, well researched, and contextual presentation of specialist ships. It is so irritating to see ill-considered criticism by armchair warriors of anything British, such as criticising the lack of armour protection of battlecruisers, or comparing ships to others built 30 years later. Thank you very much

  • @Karagianis
    @Karagianis Před 27 dny

    Agincourt must have been mostly citadel :P

  • @jamesday1295
    @jamesday1295 Před měsícem

    How about a full video on every historical namesake of the RN vessels my dad served on.
    It's worth a shot.

    • @ImportantNavalHistory
      @ImportantNavalHistory  Před měsícem

      Well, if you could provide a list, I can see what I can do!

    • @jamesday1295
      @jamesday1295 Před měsícem

      @ImportantHistory thank you for replying. This was a hail Mary post!
      So these are all cold war vessels from 70' - 93'
      The ones I know little of in regards to dad, or the namesake.
      Torquay
      Londonderry
      Russell
      The more personally familiar to me, and some definite repeat offenders over 600 years or so.
      Avenger
      Intrepid
      Juno
      Scylla
      Achilles
      Devonshire
      Diomede
      You've earned a sub regardless, thanks for taking the time to look :)

  • @kiwisteve6598
    @kiwisteve6598 Před měsícem +1

    Although not touched on here, I’ve read that Churchill’s rough handing of the Turks over the Agincourt, along with Germany opportunistically gifting the Turks the Goeben and Breslau, helped tipped the Ottomans into throwing their lot in with the central powers rather than the allies. If true it made retaining them a strategic blunder, and very expensive acquisitions for ships that ended up doing very little.

  • @user-tb2sn9nn5k
    @user-tb2sn9nn5k Před měsícem

    How about h.n.a.s.albatross. That was a strange ship