The SHOCKING TRUTH About Where Clubhead Speed Comes From!
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- čas přidán 1. 06. 2024
- In this video, Steve reveals the true nature of where clubhead speed is sourced from. Is it mostly the wrists, the legs, or is the answer more complex?
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There is a difference between where power/energy comes from and where speed comes from. You have to teach your wrists to be fast in order to effectively transfer the power generated by your core to impact.
When you did your chair demonstration, you didn’t talk about generating speed, you talked about generating power. Two different things.
If your wrists cannot move fast enough, they will limit the speed of the clubhead.
That’s why if you try to “create “ lag by “holding back” the clubhead, your wrists will actually slow you down.
Power does come from the core, but without proper wrist action (which must be fast AND at the right time), the energy will be dissipated over a longer part of the swing arc at a lower speed rather than optimally very fast at the bottom of the arc.
Such a clear explanation on the source of power in the golf swing. This one should be bookmarked. Thanks Steve.
Very good! To back this up, years ago a REALLY long hitter was on a launch monitor, and his normal "good" swings were producing 150+mi/hr swing speeds. Then they told him to swing literally as hard as he could. His swing speed went down to 95mi/hr, and there was no difference that they could see in his swings, except everything happened a little out of synch. When everything goes off in the right order and right time, then the wrists, arms hips and shoulders all multiply the speed, big time, and when in the wrong order, no matter how good the technique and tempo, destroy the speed!
Seems like the tighter you grip the more restricted the wrist hinge will be . Since the hands are connected to the arms via the wrist "hinge" then in order to get faster hands the arms will need to be going faster and the "hinge" needs to be as unrestricted as possible. And since the arms are connected to the shoulders the same thing can be said for arm speed. So, your entire body has to rotate as fast as it can with as little tension as possible. Tension is the killer, it's like rust in a door hinge and when the average person tries to get more distance they will introduce tension without even realizing it.
Last video I mentioned hitting driver on my knees and carrying it 200. That day I had the wind behind me and the range tees where up. Like driving a volkswagen downhill with the wind.Going 70. I actually did that to flatten my swing which really helped. I went back to my shop and hit drivers off my knees and using the speed radar Blue and white. I was at 65 mph. talking my normal stance I hit it 85 mph. I am 70 and just 11 years ago I was 100 mph.
Well said.
Not only well said, but well demonstrated.
I been practicing, and these tips help. Thank you for the clear instruction. I hope you prosper from your CZcams effort. Tom
Thanks Steve !
I saw a swing where he addressed the ball with back to the target. Hit it pretty good. I tried it seems that you can blast them that way also.
Interesting video, Steve.
The physics is very clear. Our puny wrists muscles in the forearms produce very little power. As you say, the power comes from a combination of the big muscles in the back, shoulders, glutes, legs and arms to accelerate the hands and club to a hand speed of 25+mph between P5 and P6 (for a big hitter) which causes the centrifugal effect via the hinged wrists and a 120mph+ driver club head speed just before impact, the hands slowing to 17+mph at impact as energy is transferred to the ch (conservation of momentum laws).
Energy is then transferred to the ball (180mph and spin) and the ch slows within an inch to about 70mph at impact.
What Mike Malaska probably meant is that without a wrist hinge there is no centrifugal effect and little ch speed. Try hitting a ball with lead arm and driver in a straight line, no speed. In that respect he is correct though I guess that he has not explained it well.
My figures may not be exact, but close, according to the data from studies that I have read.
Jon (retired PGA pro and golf nerd😁)
The wrists can potentially multiply our efforts because they have so much range of motion to move the clubhead. But they just won't create power unless we have a brace to hit against.
My friend
What great golf tips you give so freely
Thank you so very much
Need to listen to "The Truth" about the golf swing by A. J. Bonner, proper use of the wrists is one of his major teachings. He has a little different slant on there use.
Excellently produced. Hi Sir Steve...
Greetings Sir Rao. I wonder how far Mike could drive the ball on his knees? Or the great Yogi?
I think what some people believe/think when they hear “power comes from the hips/body” is that they then try to hold wrist hinge and only swing with the body, which will restrict your club head speed.
There are many ways to swing a golf club, all of them require a good base from which to work, as you have definitely demonstrated.
Clear (not easy to do keeping control...). Question: one needs a solid base, right? What would be the "ideal" distance between feet on the stance then? Thanks,
This is a fun driving range, i hit a ball over the fence where the farmers were on the left lol
The fact that there are so many theories on increasing speed tells me you have to experiment until you find something that works. And you have to stick with one thing long enough to see if it helps.
Really excellent. Not many understand this, let alone pull it all together well for such a clear explanation.
schaun
I believe that the discussion about wrist speed actually refers to the power generated from the shoulder, elbow and wrist joints when sequenced properly...
steve, good discussion and demonstration of the power of the golf swing. i liked the barstool swing, i've tried a similar thing on ice in the winter with the same results and would end up on my butt, once or twice was enough to prove the point to myself. i actually have to practice at times in my backyard in winter with a pair of old steel spiked shoes i still have.
I love Mike Malaska, but as always feel ain't real. You have a point here.
Been chasing the bull whip power results for 45 years; best insight and brilliant explanation! I'm finally encourage to find my missing 50+ yards...and hopefully will be able to ask the boys if they want to play from the tips.
It's all in the Hans mon!!
Actually, your torso is rotating in the proper direction. Your legs are moving in the opposite direction so you dont fall off the stool. The point of this is that you need stabilization in order to maximize speed. For maximum speed, you need stabulization with trunk rotation and arm/hand speed
The stool is allowing me to somewhat stabilize my trunk but if I was fully suspended in air it would be a different story. However, I don't have a 10 meter high dive to jump off.
@@Inmotion70 i understand. Ever see Titleist Performance Institute?
Where are you filming at
Looks like a driving range
Harrington said this about the wrists I think .. is that who you are referring to?
The comment referenced Mike Malaska I think
I think Padraig Harrington was referring to the fact most amateurs need all the speed they can create, yes the wrists but the overall blend with the body. Depending on one's individual swing problems it's always hard to interpret swing advice. In my opinion people are always better getting a lesson in person. I love CZcams golf advice and like learning new information but I realise it may not be beneficial for my game depending on my faults.
If you don’t control the clubface, can’t chip, can’t putt, can’t think , your driving distance is irrelevant. Golf swing at the range is not golf.
The swedish record holder in long drive Marcus Edblad proves you wrong... He is sitting and smashes the ball almost as far (300 yards) as he does standing just using his arms with the "scooping" technique... czcams.com/video/1moaQKwhjx8/video.html
The bar stool is a terrible example because you can't use your wrists properly with your body flailing out of balance and no one saying using wrists, hands etc ever suggests you can. They suggest the percentages are within the full swing not a movement in isolation.
Not saying the 80% is right or wrong, I think it is one persons feel that is not real, and they have gone with it.
I think that they are saying before exaggerating things like ground forces etc make sure you get all you can from your wrist action as they believe it is easier to get more speed here and you can get more other ways later. Are they right? I don't know.
Thanks for making my point for me. The wrists can hardly produce any speed unless you're using the ground.
The hand path also has a great influence on the wrists applying speed. You could apply tons of torque and not get much response if it's really bad.
hate to be a semantic warrior here, but when “newton” gets thrown around in golf conversations it gets cringy. the “wrists” are joints. you’re not using them to recruit any power. you are however applying the majority of the force that results in clubhead speed from your arms and hands
It falls under the 3rd law. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Input a torque counterclockwise and I got a clockwise reaction.
I think the discussion is about acceleration which will deliver the force from the mass of the club.
@Inmotion70 09x 9:38 v😢
I hate to disagree, but I’m 68 and my left wrist is totally fused with no movement or lag at all. I can hit it 280 yds. Challenge me!!
sorry steve ... but this was a very stupid video ...
for the life of me , cant figure why would you mix ground forces with a body swing ... but deny it for an upright wristy swing ... ?!? One needs ground control regardless of how will produce the club head speed ...
if you really think wrists are not the main speed producers why not try to tape a stick to your right forearm and club and then grip it , in a manner that wont allow any wrist movement ... and then rotate your body until the spine cracks and pass 150 yards ...
or could watch some right side swingers from gary edwin hitting 300 + yards with mostly arms and wrists ...
a great teacher once said something like ... '' if you see a player hitting a 7iron past 100 yards ... you can bet your sweet arse he used his wrists ...''
What on Earth are you even on about? You didn't even watch the video. You can't get ANY power from your wrists without using the ground first. It will just get negated.
Nothing new here. It's what the pros are doing. But pros do it in the way that suits their natural way of swinging the club. Some people rotate. Others are upper body hands hitters.
So I guess those who say you push backward to swing forward are wrong after all. I think you are right. Often good golfers thru impact their knees are leaning forward slightly not leaning backward which would be required to be pushing backward. Now I see why I could never push away from the target to swing toward the target! Thanks for the good video.
Steve pushes away from the ball, just look at him swing at the beginning of this vid. As the clubhead approaches the ball the handle is starting its move away round his body.
This is BS. Im a strucural engineer. You dont have to be grounded. If you are skilled enough to generate speed by spinning on the spot and you cock the driver 360degrees from the front of the ball as you spin and you make great contact with the ball you will hit much further. (Think shot put, taekwondo spinning back kick etc).
NOTE: im NOT saying that this is how you should hit with a driver. Im juat pointing out the lack of understanding from mist people around physics like this video which ibly further confuses beginner golfers.
Ideally if you want to hit further these are the main things to consider:
1. Force = Mass x acceleration
-the.faster you rotate that club from point A (as far back as you can while maintaining sufficient stability to ensure your driver face follows the shortest trajectory (straight line) back to the ball (Point B).
This is where the wrists can add that little bit of extra distance on the backswing by flicking them backwards and the same on the forward swinf by flicking them forwards that extra little bit.
(We can also look at centrifugal forces but i think you get the idea).
2. The mass exerted at the contact point on the ball inclusive of the weight of the driver head, shaft, your hands, body, watch, body mass all can help as long as you are capable of correctly applying all this mass via your spring from your back foot, hips and torso (damn hard for a heavy man 😅) esspecially as all these forces need to also follow the trajectory of the club head working like a fine tuned mechanism to ensure they arent cancelling eachother (yes forces cancel eachother out like brakes on a car vs engine drive train)..
So yes rotation and hands a
ALL play a part in being able to further maximise your distanfe.
Your grip allows for you to ensure the smoothest trajectory is achieved to maximise power.
[Note: to get the most out of the mass requirment, its best to ensure you hit THROUGH rhe ball where your still driving everything you have for a couple of centimetres infront of the golf ball after its bren hit (think skipping a stone or even better mike tyson punching the bag (visualising his fist finishing behind the bag as he punches the front).
So in summary the perfect and furthese golf swing would be achieved by a man made out of iron, swinging thors hammer with a special shaft made by loki and taylormade collaboration, where the length of this shaft is the the diamater of the equator, the golfer is fat bstd from austin powers however he can move his body and driver as if he was rhe flash. 😂
Otherwise, if you can increase your swing acceleration (NOT the same as SPEED of swing (can think of it more like speed at ball contact position or better yet, 0.1second after contact with ball, - your distance will increase without a doubt. If you then increase the mass you will further increase your distance.
Perfect the above with the longest legal shaft 46" in golf and a lead filled clyb head! Youll be unstopable 😅
whattttt? i thought speed comes from the hips. or the weight shift. or the ground work. or the torso twist. or where you apply power. or tempo. or, or, or, or........
It's really simple.
In the golf swing there are only 2346 micro-movements required, obviously they have to be in the correct sequence.
If you bring a calculator to the driving range you can do a quick calculation :( x=x1−y1f′(x1)=x1−f(x1)f′(x1))/n
You guys manipulate everything!!! You need it all blended.
That's the point of the video.
You think Rory and Bryson build their legs just for show? Power comes from the ground
Rory wouldn’t hit it anywhere with fused wrists. It’s a combination. The ground forces allow the second lever (the wrists) to speed up and snap.
Great