Lol you're right I'm agreeing with you I used to disc like them till I got hit by the bug had a Hyundai for a while never gave me a problem now they change the game again now everyone is paying attention
How times have changed, early motorweek reviews of kias and Hyundais were mostly mocking them on quality and finishing…now they are praised in every department like styling, performance, pricing, warranty and even reliability is up the roof. Way to go S.Korea!
Cosmic Cool I own a 2015 K900. My son and I put it to the test down through eastern Ohio and though the mountains of West Virginia, Virginia and Tennessee. It handled as well as my both of my Lexus LS 460s and has more power and features. Mine is equipped with the VIP pkg which adds some features that my LS 460's do not have. The LS 460's get about 6 mpg better highway gas mileage, but require premium. The K900 Tau engine can use regular, which saves about $.50/gallon in Tennessee, but the power output drops from 420 hp to 407. That is still 27 more hp than the LS 460, and it certainly performs well. The best thing is the warranty, which most of the industry cannot compete with. I get a lot of questions about the car and a lot of stares, because most people have no idea that it exists until they see it. My wife and son love it. In fact my son he liked it better than our 460's, after his initial drive through the mountains. The one issue is that only certain Kia dealers are authorized do any warranty work on the car, so I have to travel at least 80 miles to an authorized dealership. I've owned quite a few luxury vehicles including an Mercedes S-Class and 5 Lexus LS's and I think it competes well within the luxury class, but it does not have the brand pedigree........yet.
It would have made more sense if this vehicle was released after Kia had further cemented it's dealership and vehicle reputation. The 900 is still an amazing and advanced car 😊.
This car seems real smooth and would attract old school Caddy/ Lincoln drivers. I owned a Caddy STS and loved the smooth ride and all day comfort. The Equus has more features for a little bit more $. I don't think it will pull from Lexus crowd because Kia (and Hyundai) are newer players in the luxury market. But, value conscious buyers may be swayed to them. I'm not sure it's ready to command $60+K, yet.
***** But that is how they keep the prices low. It costs a lot of money to create a new brand. If they did that, they would have to earn that money back by raising the prices of their cars.
+William Doubles incorrect. I see these fairly often here in Dallas. Very nice cars with a unique road presence, those LED headlights are pretty sick looking
The K900 is leaps and bounds from an Optima, and Optimas' are really good cars. You must think a Chevy and Cadillac is the same as well.....wrong! Go test drive so you can no longer deny real cars.
I couldn't help but notice the number of times the car undulated after coming to a complete stop from 60-0, which looked to be around 4 or 5 times. I could never drive a car with that kind of softness. I'm sure that's fine for some but that kind of movement should be reserved for a boat ride in the water.
My question would be, what's the residual like on a KIA luxury car? Hard to believe it'd be much worse than its German rivals, but I'd be interested to know.
Americans have spoken and it has not been kind to Kia. They are currently selling approximately 62 cars a month of this model. Not enough to justify production of this model much longer.
These cars are taking a massive hit on resale. I'm seeing 2015 examples that went for over 60K now selling for 22k with 25,000 miles. Some even with under 20,000 miles for the same price. Just goes to show what a bad nameplate does for the value (although virtually all luxury cars have bad resale anyway)
maybe this one isn't defective. Our 2015 K900 VIP has been in the shop 29 of 55 days we've owned it since 3/9/15. The parking brake has a defect that makes the car shudder like you've been hit, when in reverse. It came back from Cottonwood Kia after being there over 3 weeks and the noise is worse, 2 paint gouges on the front hood, uninstalled trim loose on the floor, and wadded candy wrapper under the seat, and they put over 600 miles on the car, when the problem has been backing up from a stop. We bought this car so my 100% combat disabled vet husband could travel with out pain, esp. on bumpy roads or longer trips. Its a beautiful car but our car and Kia service is a disaster so far. We see it more on the tow truck than we get to drive it. Our recent cars were Honda and a Toyota so we forgot how much of a nightmare a car can be when the warranty and service guarantees are just pieces of paper.
The cheapest in Canada is $27000 for the v6 model, 31k for a car with over 100 000 kms =60 000 miles for the v8. Buying a used one will still be about 5 grand cheaper than a merc, or Audi, but up keep will be a fraction. For those tards laughing at the resale value of a "luxury Kia", its only a percent or 2 below the established brands, but the original owners warranty was for 20-40k more kms, so it probably worked out. Whether you were the original owner, or will be owner number 2, it makes more sense to go with the Kia.
You'd have to be an utter fool to buy one of these new...they depreciate faster than bags of sand at the beach which makes them the best used car value out there. I've found clean examples with less than 20,000 miles for under $30,000. Wait another year or so and you'll be able to get one for the price of a base Elantra.
well mine is now I. the shop. something is up with the transmission. hope it's something simple. Probably need my dash replaced, leather is all coming apart. seems like the center speaker is melted, warped. leather on the driver seat, and armrest is wearing off. I'm kind of pissed
Kia/Hyundai is doing the samething VW did with the W8 Passat and Phaeton. They are showing what they can do and bringing there brand name up. VW is not better than a Audi but it not a bad downgrade either. I would rather have a GTI over a A3
The Pheaton is meant to be the top sedan of the whole Volkswagen group (as it shares many technical components with Bentley). So this time Audi is not the top. It is even meant to be better than Bentley itself, which I think it is. But not many were made of the Pheaton, because VW badges on it...
Doesn't matter how nice the interior is or how fast it goes 0-60, with a name like "K900", this car is going to have a serious identity problem. Also, as soon as you drive it off the lot, its lost about 10k in value. Last year when I was shopping for a sport sedan with a budget of 60k, the last place Id be going is to a Kia dealer. I'm enjoying my Lexus GS quite nicely.
This is where you are an absolute twat! You settled for a car with fewer options, smaller car, smaller warranty and probably the same amount of money, and you think you done good? The very same logic that turned you away from a luxury Kia is the same fuckin logic that existed for Toyota when it made the brand Lexus.
yes 60k for kia why is that so fuckin surprising. why can't a car company finally sell luxury cars. just like Toyota Honda and Nissan did in the late 1980s.
yes 60k for kia why is that so fuckin surprising. why can't a car company finally sell luxury cars. just like Toyota Honda and Nissan did in the late 1980s.
This is a $30,000 car? LOL. Who else sells a V8, RWD, true luxury sedan for $30,000? The Charger and 300 don't even come close to what this offers. Get real.
In my eyes Kia will never be premium brand. When you see the shitboxes they made in the past, and now they want to build premium on that. Can you name one iconic Kia? There never was one nor it'll be. 10 years of driving and sell it to scrap
I don't like the styling this is one confused looking vehicle this is the one time I can say the Hyundai version look better and I know this is stupid but I would not pay 60k for a KIA I would buy a used German before I would buy a new KIA
I have respect for people who buy hyundai/kia luxury cars. It shows that they care about the car, and not the badge on the front.
+MrNick98 I like that...I love my K900 and really hope it catches on. Having a 420HP couch is pretty kool...lol
+1
You are right
Lol you're right I'm agreeing with you I used to disc like them till I got hit by the bug had a Hyundai for a while never gave me a problem now they change the game again now everyone is paying attention
i would say that but since i saw how fast the equiss depreciated they aren't a value when it comes to resale.
Kia has completely upgraded from cheap-ass looking cars to sweet-ass looking cars.
I’d own this! Rear wheel drive on a large sedan? Yes! Beautiful!
Not sure if you'll ever see this but how has your ownership experience been like?
Beautiful design and car
The headlights looks great.
I think he meant to say the trunk was capacious, not capricious.
That's what I was thinking!
I think you both mean spacious not Capacious or capricious
Premium fuel isn't required, just recommended to get maximum power. You can use regular but lose about 10 HP.
You lose more than what you realize because it also affects torque on the low end. Meaning you might need to downshift more frequently
I love what kia has done with this car.
I have one. Fit and finish. Quality is better than most luxury cars
You still have it?
How times have changed, early motorweek reviews of kias and Hyundais were mostly mocking them on quality and finishing…now they are praised in every department like styling, performance, pricing, warranty and even reliability is up the roof. Way to go S.Korea!
Cosmic Cool
I own a 2015 K900. My son and I put it to the test down through eastern Ohio and though the mountains of West Virginia, Virginia and Tennessee. It handled as well as my both of my Lexus LS 460s and has more power and features. Mine is equipped with the VIP pkg which adds some features that my LS 460's do not have. The LS 460's get about 6 mpg better highway gas mileage, but require premium. The K900 Tau engine can use regular, which saves about $.50/gallon in Tennessee, but the power output drops from 420 hp to 407. That is still 27 more hp than the LS 460, and it certainly performs well. The best thing is the warranty, which most of the industry cannot compete with. I get a lot of questions about the car and a lot of stares, because most people have no idea that it exists until they see it. My wife and son love it. In fact my son he liked it better than our 460's, after his initial drive through the mountains. The one issue is that only certain Kia dealers are authorized do any warranty work on the car, so I have to travel at least 80 miles to an authorized dealership. I've owned quite a few luxury vehicles including an Mercedes S-Class and 5 Lexus LS's and I think it competes well within the luxury class, but it does not have the brand pedigree........yet.
So I'm considering getting rid of my ls460, would you recommend the k900 or something else? Iove big body cars btw....😁
2:30.........capacious, not capricious, guys!!!!!!!!!!!
It would have made more sense if this vehicle was released after Kia had further cemented it's dealership and vehicle reputation. The 900 is still an amazing and advanced car 😊.
holy shit...this guy is in danger of being type cast as the "MotorWeek" guy
For me... Perfect!
Looks like, a Lexus, and BMW in the rear, the side looks like a Jag, and the front looks like an 06 Buick Lucerne.
What's the reliability like with this 5.0 engine? Would like to pick a 2 year old model up for a fraction of its retail price.
Motor week stig ?
Has anyone tried supercharging these? it would really shake things up if they made one to rival the hellcats and CTS-V.
+James Dean Youngs If a supercharge kit becomes available for the K900, I am on it! That would be epic!!!
dart? Would be great but I dont think the transmission could handle it haha
@@MrRaymondo219 It's the ZF 8 speed, I believe this specific trans can handle a little over 700horsepower, not sure about the torque.
2:30 The trunk space is "capricious"? So it's erratic and unpredictable?
... and a bit whimsical.
Without checking the dictionary,for me caprice is greed,so capricious is greedy.
Ok,you nailed it.I was wrong.
Watch out the trunk of this car is apparently really moody.
This car seems real smooth and would attract old school Caddy/ Lincoln drivers. I owned a Caddy STS and loved the smooth ride and all day comfort. The Equus has more features for a little bit more $. I don't think it will pull from Lexus crowd because Kia (and Hyundai) are newer players in the luxury market. But, value conscious buyers may be swayed to them. I'm not sure it's ready to command $60+K, yet.
I've bought 2 Optimas and think the value equation is right on track... they do make great cars and the K900 isn't much different!
***** But that is how they keep the prices low. It costs a lot of money to create a new brand. If they did that, they would have to earn that money back by raising the prices of their cars.
+William Doubles incorrect. I see these fairly often here in Dallas. Very nice cars with a unique road presence, those LED headlights are pretty sick looking
The K900 is leaps and bounds from an Optima, and Optimas' are really good cars. You must think a Chevy and Cadillac is the same as well.....wrong! Go test drive so you can no longer deny real cars.
@William Doubles Ever heard of a vw beetle? Now how about the vw tourag? 70 k for that last one
It bears a strong resemblance to the 2nd gen Lexus GS sport sedan.
Amazing you can by this car now for 18k... lol
I just did. Lol
I couldn't help but notice the number of times the car undulated after coming to a complete stop from 60-0, which looked to be around 4 or 5 times. I could never drive a car with that kind of softness. I'm sure that's fine for some but that kind of movement should be reserved for a boat ride in the water.
They hired an ex Audi designer. I wonder why Audi fired him. Now they have some more competition.
They hired an italian desighner,he didnt liked it,so he gone.
Audi didn't fire him, KIA approached him and he accepted.
My question would be, what's the residual like on a KIA luxury car? Hard to believe it'd be much worse than its German rivals, but I'd be interested to know.
Kia K900 replaces Kia Amanti
60k?! Yes it’s nice but 60k that’s outrageous it looks like all the other kias
Americans have spoken and it has not been kind to Kia. They are currently selling approximately 62 cars a month of this model. Not enough to justify production of this model much longer.
Americans are deeply stupid though, and this car is big in other parts of the world...you know, the parts that Americans don't know exist.
Look at how soft that suspension is!
2 things for me, side vents take away from the lines of this car, get rid of them, and how about a badge delete option
ki ki ki kia!
Listen to all that tire spin on launch 0-60.
any one noticed the dash thumping during the first few seconds of the video
PLEASE GET BETTER CAMERAS MOTORWEEK YOUR CAMERA COLOR LOOK DULL
Someone in kias marketing department really screwed the pooch on the name.
Yeah first thing you think is you drive a dog?
1979irock That's why they decided it to be called the K900 and not the K9, which was the original name.
Stefan Unson well the number 900 after the K9 are useless, it's still a very bad branding decision
Maybe they could have called it the Quoris like in Korea.
+weirdshibainu Woof Woof!
Dude.. $60K.. LOL CRAZY!!!!
it's a luxury car what do u expect
These cars are taking a massive hit on resale. I'm seeing 2015 examples that went for over 60K now selling for 22k with 25,000 miles. Some even with under 20,000 miles for the same price. Just goes to show what a bad nameplate does for the value (although virtually all luxury cars have bad resale anyway)
drift drift drift drift
I love mine... but the trunk is quite a downgrade for us.
Nice car but what's wrong with performance 420hp and 14.5 on the quarter mile then again fuel effiency is important too
check engine light already on...
So is the BATTERY and OIL light as with most cars when you turn the key to the ON position before starting. 1:51
Life must be hard for you.
DigitalYojimbo no not for someone that has no life or brains.
maybe this one isn't defective. Our 2015 K900 VIP has been in the shop 29 of 55 days we've owned it since 3/9/15. The parking brake has a defect that makes the car shudder like you've been hit, when in reverse. It came back from Cottonwood Kia after being there over 3 weeks and the noise is worse, 2 paint gouges on the front hood, uninstalled trim loose on the floor, and wadded candy wrapper under the seat, and they put over 600 miles on the car, when the problem has been backing up from a stop. We bought this car so my 100% combat disabled vet husband could travel with out pain, esp. on bumpy roads or longer trips. Its a beautiful car but our car and Kia service is a disaster so far. We see it more on the tow truck than we get to drive it. Our recent cars were Honda and a Toyota so we forgot how much of a nightmare a car can be when the warranty and service guarantees are just pieces of paper.
The name sounds like a alarm system..
I have this car, 2015 white on white vip V8. I purchased it used with 20k miles on it for 32k. great car at that price, definitely not 60k.
Amazing car
60k?!?!!!!!??!?!?!?!?!?!!?!!!!?!?!?
1st Impression..The name K9...I think Labrador..
UPDATE... 2018, a used, 2016 Kia K900 sells for $15,000. AWFUL RESALE
Im seeing 2015 and 2p16s with less than 30k miles still going for 24 -27k around Austin texas....not bad really
The cheapest in Canada is $27000 for the v6 model, 31k for a car with over 100 000 kms =60 000 miles for the v8. Buying a used one will still be about 5 grand cheaper than a merc, or Audi, but up keep will be a fraction. For those tards laughing at the resale value of a "luxury Kia", its only a percent or 2 below the established brands, but the original owners warranty was for 20-40k more kms, so it probably worked out. Whether you were the original owner, or will be owner number 2, it makes more sense to go with the Kia.
nice inside except for the copy of the BMW automatic.
Maserati use the same style automatic shifter now too...
Martin Villegas guess what then.....
killkaveh The transmission that's used is from the same company and it dispenses similar shift knobs.
Kia had it before BMW with the original KIA Quoris
You'd have to be an utter fool to buy one of these new...they depreciate faster than bags of sand at the beach which makes them the best used car value out there. I've found clean examples with less than 20,000 miles for under $30,000. Wait another year or so and you'll be able to get one for the price of a base Elantra.
well mine is now I. the shop. something is up with the transmission. hope it's something simple. Probably need my dash replaced, leather is all coming apart. seems like the center speaker is melted, warped. leather on the driver seat, and armrest is wearing off. I'm kind of pissed
kace kace you're kidding!?!? I'd be more than pissed
Needs a non-Kia name.
First generation Chrysler 300 front end needed to make Kia K900 desirable enough to buy.
60k for a KIA 🤮
Kia/Hyundai is doing the samething VW did with the W8 Passat and Phaeton. They are showing what they can do and bringing there brand name up. VW is not better than a Audi but it not a bad downgrade either. I would rather have a GTI over a A3
The Pheaton is meant to be the top sedan of the whole Volkswagen group (as it shares many technical components with Bentley). So this time Audi is not the top. It is even meant to be better than Bentley itself, which I think it is. But not many were made of the Pheaton, because VW badges on it...
Doesn't matter how nice the interior is or how fast it goes 0-60, with a name like "K900", this car is going to have a serious identity problem. Also, as soon as you drive it off the lot, its lost about 10k in value. Last year when I was shopping for a sport sedan with a budget of 60k, the last place Id be going is to a Kia dealer. I'm enjoying my Lexus GS quite nicely.
This is where you are an absolute twat! You settled for a car with fewer options, smaller car, smaller warranty and probably the same amount of money, and you think you done good? The very same logic that turned you away from a luxury Kia is the same fuckin logic that existed for Toyota when it made the brand Lexus.
$60K for a Kia???? NO!. $60K for a Kia that sounds like a dog??? HELLLL NO!!!
yes 60k for kia why is that so fuckin surprising. why can't a car company finally sell luxury cars. just like Toyota Honda and Nissan did in the late 1980s.
yes 60k for kia why is that so fuckin surprising. why can't a car company finally sell luxury cars. just like Toyota Honda and Nissan did in the late 1980s.
FRONT END IS AWFUL! Looks like a forte
who named this thing? what a lousy name!
30 000 $ car all the way, but no 60 ffs
really? that's like saying I want a brand new 7 series for that price
This is a $30,000 car? LOL. Who else sells a V8, RWD, true luxury sedan for $30,000? The Charger and 300 don't even come close to what this offers.
Get real.
then you buy it. i rather take mustang gt359 or challenger hellcat
In my eyes Kia will never be premium brand. When you see the shitboxes they made in the past, and now they want to build premium on that. Can you name one iconic Kia? There never was one nor it'll be. 10 years of driving and sell it to scrap
+kize32 Cool story bro. Glad you can see into the future, you are an amazing person.
Not as good as the german rivals.
But certainly on par. Look at a few years back, what Kia was producing... Cheap and not really good cars.
put all those options you see in the kia in a german car, you get a nice big $100k plus price tag!
Did you try this car?
I don't like the styling this is one confused looking vehicle this is the one time I can say the Hyundai version look better and I know this is stupid but I would not pay 60k for a KIA I would buy a used German before I would buy a new KIA
No one will buy this car, too many other reputable and established options available for the money.
no