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  • čas přidán 18. 06. 2024
  • As beginners on a #spiritualjourney the first thing we do is to go looking for mystical experiences, but this is like trying to build a megatall #skyscraper by building the top floor first and then working your way down.

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  • @AwakenedEmptiness
    @AwakenedEmptiness Před 7 dny +21

    In Zen this is called makyo. Reminds me of a story. A student asked his master, "Master I have had a mystical experience of the Buddha appearing to me, is this the way?" The Master replied, "If you see a Buddha on the way kill him." Confused the student replied, "But you said the Buddha is the way." The Master responded " The way is no way." The student still looked confused. The Master retorted "You are the Buddha, you are the way." Instantly hearing the student found great enlightenment.

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  Před 7 dny +6

      Thank you for sharing the story associated with the Zen quote that many here will be familiar with🙏🙏🙏

    • @AwakenedEmptiness
      @AwakenedEmptiness Před 7 dny +1

      @@ultimatemeaning Namo Buddhaya 🙏❤️

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  Před 6 dny +2

      @@AwakenedEmptiness 🙏🙏🙏

  • @bigcheech1937
    @bigcheech1937 Před 6 dny +6

    I experience mystical things and siddhis not because I seek them but mostly because I don’t…like all phenomena, I let them pass and return to the Dharma.

  • @Rose_Arcana
    @Rose_Arcana Před 4 dny +1

    Wise words, you pack a heavy punch. I like the last little bit at the end... very straight forward and sums it up nicely.

  • @duanef2634
    @duanef2634 Před 5 dny +5

    I was taught I have to be something, after 50 years I realized I could have been nothing years ago.

  • @franzhaas5597
    @franzhaas5597 Před 8 dny +13

    I'm guilty of everything that was spoken here. A Hindu teacher who I can not spell his name once said, "You can't get rid of something until you know what it is."

  • @wernerwirsching2058
    @wernerwirsching2058 Před 7 dny +5

    Very important, thanks so much .
    I often noticed, people are formal practicing , but holding on to their old mental habit formations.

  • @OlamoLocami
    @OlamoLocami Před 5 dny +1

    Thank you for this wonderful lesson. I have taken it to the heart. May peace be with you.

  • @stoic_rooster
    @stoic_rooster Před 6 dny +3

    It makes a lot of sense to me, and I appreciate the video. I think maybe most of us start off this way, and then after fruitless quests we begin to understand how it was always right in front of us.

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  Před 5 dny +2

      Yes sRooster that is exactly how it is! 🙏🙏🙏

  • @Magik1369
    @Magik1369 Před 4 dny +1

    He's right. A profound experience of the Mysterium Tremendum or a direct encounter with the Divine is not child's play. It is not something one does because they are fascinated with esoteric phenomena. Such an experience will profoundly change you and will take decades to integrate. Most of us have years and years of inner work to do before we are even ready for such an experience.

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  Před 4 dny

      So glad the see that you recognise the difficulty of the path, very few appreciate this point 🙏🙏🙏

  • @strangecurrency
    @strangecurrency Před 7 dny +3

    At some of the more arduous challenges on the path of meditation we balked. We thought we could find an easier, softer way. But we could not. With all the earnestness at our command, we beg of all meditators to be fearless and
    thorough from the very start. Some of us have tried to hold on to our old ideas and the result was nil until we let go absolutely.
    Remember that we deal with Samsara - cunning, baffling, powerful! Without help it is too much for us. But there is a way that provides all direction and power - that way is the Dharma. May you find the Dharma now!
    Half measures availed us nothing. We stood at the turning point. We asked Vajradhara for his protection
    and care with complete abandon.

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  Před 6 dny +4

      Half measures are better than none! Remember "never overlook the slightest virtue"

  • @maxsrandomvideos-
    @maxsrandomvideos- Před 4 dny +1

    He’s basically saying if you want to transform your mind you first need to understand what makes it tick. You can’t try to make great changes without the awareness of why you want this, the effort it will take, are you doing things for the right reason, how much work do you need on yourself and other introspective concepts. Asking questions about your self is important before trying to claim you’ve peaked spiritually. We never will peak because spirituality is maintenance. Awareness is all you get as a spiritual seeker while our abilities seem to be limited.

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  Před 4 dny

      Thank you for sharing your insight Max, these are words all practitioners need to bear in mind 🙏🙏🙏

  • @niconico4114
    @niconico4114 Před 6 dny +4

    all experience is mystical experience. this is a lot of should should should, youre doing it wrong, do it my way instead. the awakened heart allows all things to be, accepts all, welcomes all, receives all, includes all. inclusivity (upehka) is the highest of the brahmaviharas. the path is unique for each being. making things look difficult is a great way to create gradients of social power based on religious doctrines, which is not the same as spiritual awakening. this has happened often in tibetan culture, which is essentially feudal. spirituality is the easiest thing in the world. nothing else is easier.

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  Před 6 dny +2

      Next time you stub your toe or whack your funny bone have a look at this mystical experience and how acceptable it is. 😆🤣😆 Sort of a joke but not really. Thanks for sharing 🙏🙏🙏

  • @tbaggin7432
    @tbaggin7432 Před 6 dny +6

    You dont have to look for a mystical experience, if you take 4 grams of magic mushrooms (psilocybin cubensis) you will be forced to have a mystical experience.

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  Před 6 dny +4

      Wellthat isn't what I call mystical that is physical. It is an emergent property of a physical influence on the nervous system.

  • @bodhicitta108
    @bodhicitta108 Před 7 dny +2

    Probably one of the best 8:41 minutes this week: the path in a nutshell 🙏🏼📿

  • @Nick-gq2iy
    @Nick-gq2iy Před 5 dny +2

    SPOT ON, SIR! I admit it! I want OUT! YESTERDAY! Ok, 18+ years ago! I am a patient sufferer, but it’s exhausting. Fiancé commmited suicide, No family left. Almost all friends have moved, housing issues, ad infinitum. And now my comment has been moved further down the line... 🤨/😁🤷🏻‍♀️
    I just want OUT! OUT! OUT! But every now & then, I get some E & am in GREAT JOY, but, I still just want to be able to get on the right path, to maybe get rid of fear & work on myself to help myself, and be able to be of service to others...how? I don’t know. (I still have to get all the way off that drug, but it may take me the rest of my life, in truth.)
    I have manifested some things I wanted & some horrible things! At least that’s my perception of things from being a student of this...but as Lester Levenson said, “become desireless, imperturbable, a lover of all since we are ONE with all...learn who you are!” - Paraphrased. - Cynthia

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  Před 5 dny +2

      The start is aspiration and generating the mind of loving kindness compassion. Best wishes

    • @Nick-gq2iy
      @Nick-gq2iy Před 5 dny +2

      @@ultimatemeaning thank you for sharing this with me! 🙏🏼

  • @MateoVilhelmo
    @MateoVilhelmo Před 5 dny +1

    Thank you Sir ❤ I went seeking psychic abilities and such, but I ended up in a psych ward. Tradition says to avoid that stuff for a reason! Lol

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  Před 5 dny +1

      Thank you Mateo, I hope you are well now my friend 🙏🙏🙏

  • @Baysunrise
    @Baysunrise Před 4 dny +1

    I don’t know how to meditate at all, no attention span, no control over my very noisy voice in my head. It’s hopeless. And he’s correct I’m very upset, angry about what’s happening around me and in the world. HELP!

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  Před dnem +1

      Hi Winnie, please don't give up hope, at very least we here in this small community care for you

    • @Baysunrise
      @Baysunrise Před dnem +1

      @@ultimatemeaning Thank you, that’s so kind.

  • @friendsnote.1013
    @friendsnote.1013 Před 6 dny +2

    Truth is a pathless way….not all the abstract theories and scriptures. They will never bring anyone to the truth. Truth needs to be discovered when all authority, past or present, all theories and teachings are dropped. If you practise according to a method or a way, it is based on someone else’s experience, not yours. Truth can never be a static thing. If truth is something to be achieved, then it is a goal at the end of a rainbow but it cannot be. Truth is always constant and not the same for each one of us. If not, those people who do not read or study the scriptures, what happen to them - do they get enlightened or find freedom at all??
    🙏🙏🙏

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  Před 6 dny +1

      Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Can you please clarify something? You write "Truth can never be a static thing" and later "Truth is always constant" Is this an intentional contradiction, and if so what is the intended meaning? Thanks again. 🙏🙏🙏

  • @HappyMutantSpeaks
    @HappyMutantSpeaks Před 5 dny +1

    The skyscraper example is so perfect. Give me sila and shamatha, thank you very much. 😊

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  Před 5 dny

      You have some clarity on the situation I see! 🙏🙏🙏

    • @HappyMutantSpeaks
      @HappyMutantSpeaks Před 5 dny

      Only thanks to teachers such as yourself who are taking the time to communicate the path clearly to us. Thank you, I'll make sure to come back and dig into your content as this was the first video of yours I encountered. 🙏🏻

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  Před 5 dny +1

      @@HappyMutantSpeaks Watched your video on meditation, tahnk you for that.
      Here is a playlist about meditation: czcams.com/play/PLu8Rw0r4aAhQz8z8-zXqowrelLiQAfnC-.html

    • @HappyMutantSpeaks
      @HappyMutantSpeaks Před 5 dny

      Great, I'll be checking that out soon.

  • @Mystichomey
    @Mystichomey Před 6 dny +2

    True. I'm glad finally someone said it

  • @Nick-gq2iy
    @Nick-gq2iy Před 5 dny +2

    Truly! I’d LOVE to reach this state, but I have such terrible focus, be it due to titration of a drug I should never have been on for years, or...I don’t know what, but I can’t seem to sit still (akathisia?) & meditate...20 years ago, I did with a gentle yoga group. It was wonderful! Now...also with spinal issues, it’s hard to be comfortable... I thank you for your wisdom! And I really don’t know how to correctly meditate. (As for the mystical...some, but most likely from the pendulum swing of the sensory overload of withdrawal-cool experience, nevertheless.) So...hoping to learn Tai Chi. I loved to feel that E flow when a wonderful elderly woman would visit our home, when my mom was dying.

  • @mono6839
    @mono6839 Před 6 dny +2

    I can wholeheartedly agree with you from my very limited insight! I have been studying Zen in the Soto tradition for 25 years, although my practice is now very much inspired by the words of Pema Chödrön (just by the way) and i managed to get lost in "emptiness" for 20 years, that's what I now call it, and the reason was precisely that I didn't want to open up to the symptoms of my traumas
    / Suffering , as long as one's own practice serves the purpose of escaping the ordinary human experience, one does not experience (or did I experience) any significant and deep change but (as you say) continues to lurch between desire and aversion. I still do that, but in an increasingly "open space", and in this there is a place for both pain and joy, or as Sekito Kisen said: "The four elements return to their nature, like a child to its mother. Fire heats, wind moves, water wets, earth is solid." Best Regards from Berlin 🙏(I apologize if my words are difficult to understand, English is not my native language)

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  Před 6 dny +1

      Thank you for sharing and no need to apologise for your English it is perfectly understandable to me. I can see that your comments come from a position of direct experience.
      And this is a common pitfall that many stumble into. Equating "emptiness" with nothingness than many become numb to the suffering of others and the troubles of the mundane world. The same applies to those who adhere to a mistaken notion of non duality.
      I wish you all the success on your journey!
      🙏🙏🙏

    • @mono6839
      @mono6839 Před 6 dny +2

      @@ultimatemeaning Thank you very much, I wish the same for you and all beings! 🙏

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  Před 5 dny +1

      @@mono6839 ☮

  • @aitch365
    @aitch365 Před 5 dny

    Thank you for your important message. Particularly for the need to be selfless which i find very hard to do 😋

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  Před 5 dny +1

      The path is difficult but at the same time liberating. Thank you for participating 🙏🙏🙏

  • @jcornish17
    @jcornish17 Před 8 dny +2

    This is one of your best videos. Thank you.

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  Před 8 dny +1

      Thank you Jason, and just so I better understand your reasons, what specifically makes this video stand out from the rest? 🙏🙏🙏

  • @TheHumanSynthesisProject

    So elegantly put. Thank you

  • @bigdon37
    @bigdon37 Před 7 dny +2

    Practice good ethics in your life, meditation practice ( concentration & visualization) and finally cultivate wisdom. You can’t have wisdom if you don’t have good ethics. Like he said start with a foundation.

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  Před 7 dny +2

      Thank you Donald that is very sound advice for anyone who is serious about the path! 🙏🙏🙏

  • @haikeaintiaani9183
    @haikeaintiaani9183 Před 5 dny +1

    Thank you sensei

  • @brianbuczynski3555
    @brianbuczynski3555 Před 7 dny +1

    Thank you this is so helpful!

  • @simeondawkins6358
    @simeondawkins6358 Před 5 dny

    i went looking and found it! and the dream woke up to itself

  • @brianbuczynski3555
    @brianbuczynski3555 Před 7 dny +3

    This is a very helpful Reality check!

  • @wighatsuperreggie
    @wighatsuperreggie Před 6 dny +2

    So true!

  • @bodhicitta3jewels
    @bodhicitta3jewels Před 8 dny +3

    Bliss is empty. Spiritual experiences are empty. Do your practice. It's nothing "sexy" and you will have a variety of experiences, including boredom. Keep going. All these experiences are nothing more than a crashing of the waves of the ocean or the passing of clouds in the sky. Thank you for this succinct teaching. 🙏🙏🙏

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  Před 8 dny +2

      It's nothing "sexy" 😆🤣😆 So true many people are looking for Jazzy and Sexy experience (Spiritual exceptionalism)

    • @bodhicitta3jewels
      @bodhicitta3jewels Před 8 dny +2

      @ultimatemeaning Indeed. I often remind myself that the experiences I'm having are just a good example of the rising and falling of phenomena. If I stay in the present moment without attachment, I may eventually see beyond this phenomena. 🙏🙏🙏

    • @bodhicitta3jewels
      @bodhicitta3jewels Před 8 dny +1

      @ultimatemeaning At the beginning of my spiritual journey, I fell prey to these illusions and still catch myself to this day. It's really something you have to stay on top of.

    • @bodhicitta3jewels
      @bodhicitta3jewels Před 8 dny +2

      ​@ultimatemeaning Not only is it NOT sexy, but often I feel people see my enthusiasm for spiritual practice as wacka-doodle. I use it as a tool to renounce the need for social approval and being one of the "cool kids."

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  Před 8 dny +2

      @@bodhicitta3jewels Yes we all really want to believe but at some point we have to leave our childish games behind and gain maturity in practice.

  • @between666
    @between666 Před 4 dny +1

    I was empty first .It is me I am it is granted. When the known and unknown pressures that sustain the body are taken back when the concepts needing the 5 senses and the 5 senses are taken back. That is feeling mystical. The quietness stillness and tranquillity is at least 300 miles away from society in the afterlife. It is profound.

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  Před 4 dny

      Actually all experience is mystical but seeing it to be ordinary we go searching for something special and miss the point 🙏🙏🙏

    • @between666
      @between666 Před 4 dny +1

      @@ultimatemeaning I was reminded in the afterlife. I was looking outside. It would be easy to miss it inside. But it doesn't miss.
      The ones experiencing mystical are the ones caught in memory between worlds. They are missing the point

    • @between666
      @between666 Před 4 dny +1

      @@ultimatemeaning our concept of everything doesn't come close.

    • @between666
      @between666 Před 4 dny +1

      @@ultimatemeaning I believe a sheet of paper is the floor at the between. Any projection is a imprint against what is and brings instant retribution through the non human. That is what I cull. Non human.

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  Před 20 hodinami +1

      @@between666 Yes missing the point is almost all we ordinary beings can do

  • @colbyboucher6391
    @colbyboucher6391 Před 6 dny +2

    I can't help but wonder if a lot of people are farther along than they realize, and it's just us introspective types that need to claw our way up from a fairly extreme degree of... self-awareness? "Wow, you're so self-aware" people say, while they seem to do what we aim to do... just _do_ things. At least to some extent.

  • @S3RAVA3LM
    @S3RAVA3LM Před 7 dny +1

    Very refreshing. Is nice to undo the conditioning, and just be true.

  • @1littlebrainthatcould

    I needed to hear this. Thanks.

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  Před 5 dny

      So happy I could be of some service 🙏🙏🙏

    • @1littlebrainthatcould
      @1littlebrainthatcould Před 5 dny

      ​@@ultimatemeaningLet's hope I build on the momentum!

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  Před 5 dny

      @@1littlebrainthatcould Yes, yes get the momentum going! and set your trajectory to the stars! 🌠

  • @rye6372
    @rye6372 Před 7 dny +1

    You are helping me. And it feels right to end my comment righttttt here!

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  Před 7 dny +1

      If I can truly help even in some small way that is wonderful! 🙏🙏🙏

  • @sugarfree1894
    @sugarfree1894 Před 5 dny

    Wonderful construction analogy

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  Před 5 dny

      Hanging gardens of Babylon spring to mind 😆🤣😆

  • @barefootarts737
    @barefootarts737 Před 6 dny +4

    Its almost as if most Spiritual pursuits are just techniques for manufacturing experiences.

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  Před 6 dny +1

      Yes this is so true, we use the creative power of the min to justify our blind faith and ignorance! 🙏🙏🙏

    • @barefootarts737
      @barefootarts737 Před 6 dny +2

      @@ultimatemeaning My Dad calls it 'laying a trip on yourself'.

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  Před 5 dny +1

      @@barefootarts737 Hey I like your dad's way of thinking, very apt! Love the bowed lyre BTW do you make them yourself?

    • @barefootarts737
      @barefootarts737 Před 5 dny +1

      @@ultimatemeaning yes

  • @simeondawkins6358
    @simeondawkins6358 Před 5 dny

    transparent like a clear open sky :)

  • @gerardlabeouf6075
    @gerardlabeouf6075 Před 5 dny

    Really good thanks

  • @JuanHugeJanus
    @JuanHugeJanus Před 6 dny +3

    (2:33) The mundane world is not unsatisfactory and have never ever been it. "The first truth" is a fallacy and if you understand this one thing you DO NOT NEED to use 1000 upon 1000 of hours on all sorts of practices. If you accept this fallacy you are dreaming, so short can it be said

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  Před 6 dny +1

      If not then why do we cause suffering for other being just so that we ourselves can survive, why do the evil minded dominate the weak and disenfranchised in their pursuit of power and wealth, why now are millions suffering in Gaza and Ukraine, why do children suffer abuse and trauma, and the list goes on as long as human history. Of course if you consider all this to be satisfactory then I guess the mundane world is OK? But for me the world has much room for improvement
      Thank you for participating in the discussion.
      🙏🙏🙏

    • @JuanHugeJanus
      @JuanHugeJanus Před 6 dny +3

      @@ultimatemeaning First of all it's not even a fallacy, it's only an assertion. Why do I then write it's a fallacy? Because Buddhists holds it as a truth without any analysis at all... And if some holds an assertion as a truth without analysis (pre-judice) we can in this case say it's a mistaken truth and therefore a fallacy. If you had taken just a primary course in logic you would know I'm right. Furthermore I thing you know I'm right and chose not to dispute me. We can never go from a to d in logic and that's what you chose to do instead, - your answer is called a red herring in logic and doesn't work on me.
      No satisfactory no unsatisfactory, no sane no insane, no sun no moon, no vowels no consonants, - keep up your studies
      There is lots of good thing in Buddhism but a fallacy never becomes a diamond.
      Thank you for your participation in the discussion
      The Real Philosopher

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  Před 5 dny +1

      @@JuanHugeJanus In the Buddha Dharma there is taught to be three levels of analysis: No Analysis, slight analysis, and thorough analysis and these correspond to three broadly classified individuals- the worldly, the ordinary beings on the path and noble beings.
      The Buddha was a noble beings and discerned the 4 truths using thorough (infallible) analysis, but this was taught in accordance with the listeners at the type (his five excellent companions. This is the 1st turning of the wheel of dharma where the truth of emptiness is only partially explained.
      The 2nd turning given at the deer park focused principally on the teachings of emptiness and bodhicitta where emptiness is fully explained.
      In the 3rd turning on top of the meaning of emptiness is taught the truth of signlessness. All three teachings lead to liberation but only the second and third bring the result of final Buddhahood the cause of which is Bodhicitta. There is a difference in terms of subtlety and which teaching is more suitable largely depends on the intelligence of the student.
      Importantly regarding your claim that the truth of suffering is a fallacy, whereas in the 1st turning the Buddha taught the 4 truths, in the 2nd it was the two truths (the provisional and the ultimate), however in the 3rd only the single truth of transcendence was taught. So in the context of the 3rd turning the truth of suffering is provisional.
      But the most important point and this is what I was referring to in the previous comment, is that for us ordinary beings the truth of suffering is undeniable. If you can honestly say to yourself that you have no suffering then you are not an ordinary being, but I suspect that this would be a false claim.
      Thank you for the engaging discourse
      🙏🙏🙏

  • @Nick-gq2iy
    @Nick-gq2iy Před 5 dny +2

    Sir...you are SPOT ON! So...is there a place to start...regarding meditation? Or should I not bother due to withdrawal & feeling like I could jump out of my skin? I thought maybe I’d try Tai Chi...if I can find a teacher...3 have quit the Sr. Ctr in my area. Do you have any guidance to offer where to start?? I feel quite lost & feel too old to be so lost. (I will need to watch this again.) Again, thank you for your words of wisdom. Now I understand what my Buddhist friend was trying to say. 💎🙏🏼

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  Před 5 dny +2

      Tai Chi and similar techniques are very good forms of Shamata meditation especially for people who find it difficult to sit still (that isn't necessary) 🙏🙏🙏

    • @Nick-gq2iy
      @Nick-gq2iy Před 5 dny +2

      @@ultimatemeaning much gratitude. 🙏🏼

  • @maryfreund4957
    @maryfreund4957 Před 8 dny +11

    So far, I've renounced weed, doughnuts, and letting people manipulate me 😂

  • @tomrhodes1629
    @tomrhodes1629 Před 5 dny

    Elijah has returned, as prophesied, and testifies: Christians who understand JC are extremely few, while Advaita Vedanta practitioners can understand Him perfectly. "My yoke is easy and my burden is light." The only way to properly SEEK is to simply DESIRE TRUTH without prejudice. This requires that one has overcome FEAR sufficiently. And Samsara is designed perfectly, such that this all comes together with perfect timing for each and every soul. It's like swimming: relax and everything will work out fine, but get up-tight and fight the "water" of Fate by trying to take control, and you can make it very hard for yourself.

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  Před 5 dny

      This is also the case on the Buddhist path. Most Buddhists don't understand the Buddhist path. Thanks for sharing
      🙏🙏🙏

  • @stephenowen5229
    @stephenowen5229 Před 8 dny +3

    🙏🙏🙏

  • @Happy_Limpet
    @Happy_Limpet Před 8 dny +2

    Ouroboros - 7.44 .
    Thankyou for this .

  • @millenniumzeek
    @millenniumzeek Před 7 dny +1

    It is possible to build a skyscraper from the top down. You can use cranes to hold the upper levels while the lowers are attached. Ancient teachings coupled with modern technology, the Internet, are the cranes.

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  Před 6 dny +1

      Wow amazing! please tell me which skyscraper has been built this way so i can check it out myself

  • @Pandanarang528
    @Pandanarang528 Před 5 dny +2

    I need to meet God or the architect of existence , so I can change the reality of my life

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  Před 5 dny +1

      Have you tried prayer? God listens

    • @Pandanarang528
      @Pandanarang528 Před 5 dny +2

      @@ultimatemeaning maybe he listens but doesn't do anything

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  Před 5 dny +2

      @@Pandanarang528 If you have faith in God then she will give you refuge, although you may not understand at the time your journey will bring you clarity in the end

  • @EliLemke-ft3fs
    @EliLemke-ft3fs Před 4 dny +1

    The irony.
    We go looking for a journey, in the form of wanderlust.
    Only to realize we were empty the entire time and if we didnt do anything to find ourselves you wouldve fell into oneness

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  Před 4 dny

      YEs Eli but sadly we cling so strongly to self identity (the opposite of emptiness) that we have to work very hard to eliminate our negative tendencies 🙏🙏🙏

  • @charlesp7504
    @charlesp7504 Před 6 dny +2

    Saw an interview of a guy who was in prison for doing pimp stuff and found a book about Siddhis. He devoted himself to the practices of those Siddhis because he wanted to have a way to escape prison. While meditating and contemplating he became self-realized. Everyone has their own path. If you want to be a meditator for 70 years, go right ahead.

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  Před 6 dny +2

      Did he escape the penitentiary as well in the end? 😆🤣😆

    • @charlesp7504
      @charlesp7504 Před 6 dny +2

      @@ultimatemeaning I’m pretty sure he was released early for good behavior! 😂 Thank you for yours.

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  Před 6 dny +1

      @@charlesp7504 😆🤣😆 Thanks for the beautiful story friend. reminds me of the Glasgow gangster who became a famous author serving a life sentence 😆🤣😆

  • @derekwhite2929
    @derekwhite2929 Před 6 dny +2

    I'm mystified that I still appear to be corporeal!?

  • @SPEEDKILLAR
    @SPEEDKILLAR Před 4 dny

    What is his experience or opinion on magic mushrooms?

  • @twistedbydsign99
    @twistedbydsign99 Před 7 dny +1

    I can meditate and clear my mind of all thoughts and be in this like dark empty sea, but why do people practice this? What is the point of being in that state?

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  Před 6 dny +1

      In the Tibetan tradition we don't value this kind of meditation much, in fact we see it to be an obstacle to liberation 🙏🙏🙏

  • @MarsAttacksMemoirs108
    @MarsAttacksMemoirs108 Před 2 dny +1

    🙏🙏🙏🪷🪷🪷🙏🙏🙏🪷🪷🪷🙏🙏🙏

  • @user-se5yv1vw8n
    @user-se5yv1vw8n Před 8 dny +1

    ཐུགས་རྗེ་གནང་

  • @asor8037
    @asor8037 Před 5 dny +1

    What if I want to do this? will you come stop me, mr solemn zen face

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  Před 5 dny

      You are a free agent, don't mind my general advice about the spiritual path, it isn't for everyone 🙏🙏🙏

    • @asor8037
      @asor8037 Před 5 dny

      @@ultimatemeaning I'm just trolling

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  Před 5 dny

      @@asor8037 Yes I know friend, its OK.it keeps me on my toes!

  • @charlesp7504
    @charlesp7504 Před 6 dny +3

    The Self-Realized are everywhere. Don’t fall into the traps of this guy’s beliefs.

    • @niconico4114
      @niconico4114 Před 6 dny +4

      agreed. this is authoritarian and prescriptive. truth is a pathless land, as krishnamurti wisely said.

    • @charlesp7504
      @charlesp7504 Před 6 dny +2

      @@niconico4114 right on, I agree wholeheartedly. I don’t discount the discipline of a Buddhist meditator. Just the beliefs that hold them back for realization in this lifetime. I once belonged to a Buddhist discipline(cult). It aided my inquiry seeing through it(pathless path)

  • @user-xd4rs6vr4n
    @user-xd4rs6vr4n Před 6 dny +2

    Don't tell me what to do

  • @AscendingGuru
    @AscendingGuru Před 6 dny +2

    "Everything is empty" okay, now try "Everything must contain nothingness, otherwise it would be incomplete" And likewise you can say "Nothing, must also contain nothing of nothing, delegated to section within that would contain everything, or else it would be incomplete". Then realise they're the same. They occopy the same understanding. It is just our measuring being too small that make them appear as seperate. So, an empty eye, can suddenly become an eye full of light. I disagree with the altruistic mind, I see that more assn aspect of the first noble truth. Trying to yo fix and heal, will force people to awaken to how bad the system is. Besides, it is a little bit too convenient for the ruling class that people are taught to be self sacraficing. In fact, I would call that the earthly. It is essentially Jesus dying on the cross, or soldier dying for the king. Or, the Mary with the baby. Men make soldiers, women make babies. Rulers rule. Their gluttony kept in place by the dukkha, Wich Buddhist text further breaks down into categories. These "sufferings" are to be renounced, and it is very difficult, because they also motivate the pursuit of release, Nirvana or Liberty through being absorbed enough in human consciousness to summon any it at will. It is very hard to accept the correct view that the dead are not lost and are just actors gone off the stage.

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  Před 5 dny +1

      Emptiness isn't nothingness, nothing cannot contain because it is only an imputation, everything cannot be contained and similarly cannot be a container.
      In the buddha dharma and in general in all dharmas altruism is taught to be the essence of all practice .
      As the Buddha taught "Principal is not class, likewise bloodline isn't principal, Principal is training"
      don't know much about Jesus
      Suffering is taught to be karmically neutral
      and "consciousness is the guest and the body a guest house"
      Nirvana cannot be absorbed , and the dead do not die.
      Thanks for sharing
      🙏🙏🙏

    • @AscendingGuru
      @AscendingGuru Před 5 dny +1

      @@ultimatemeaning I see your reply is very thought-out. I will read it carefully and consider it throughout this Saturday.
      I am about to read it. If you are to take anything from me this day, I would say:
      I meditate in my breath. I send it all the way down into the preneum expands, aaaah-tung. In and out, using both the mouth and nose, it kind of naturally closes the mouth that sound. It gets it right, the focus is on my preneum expanding.
      Because my focus is on my preneum through the breath, I forget, Ignore or selectively do not include my sight. Upon returning to it, I see blobs. I am very happy with myself. I see orange and purple blobs. Haha I am the greatest, and surely I will become buddha.
      After some weeks of feeling good about my practise, I decided it was time to go beyond seeing purple and orange blobs. Once more I sat, did my routine, but now upon returning I thought "purple and orange blobs, I am too good for you! I am not gonna look, I will go beyond you!".
      Then, the blobs evaporated like mist. Replaced by a darkness that was darker than the usual play behind the eyes, this took less than a second. A 3d landscape, of simple geometric shapes spinning, expanding and opening up. I saw 3d landscapes of movement and geometry. Haha! I Declared, surely I am the greatest, I will become Buddha!
      I continued the process. Then suddenly one night, when I was gonna fall asleep, I just fell deeper and deeper. I realized I am too focused to fall asleep normally. So, I had to be raptured into the dream.
      So suddenly the lights turned and I was standing in a reception. The woman asks me "What are you doing?" And I say "I am here now".
      Then, I can humbly admit that I got distracted and lost it. Minor issues that must be evened out with practise. But still though, I woke up the next day and Haha! I am the greatest! Surely one day, I will be fully awake.
      And the dream of nirvana will be liberating.
      - Oh, and that's not a saying or anything. Just some stuff that happened to me. It was pretty cool, I am still learning though. Staying humble for that fast track samjak sambodhi goodness. I just know how to celebrate my victories, that's all.

    • @AscendingGuru
      @AscendingGuru Před 4 dny

      @@ultimatemeaning I see in my writing that I value first hand experience. However I found it useful to read that the body was a house and consciousness is a guest. I have been doing a lot of union, Hatha yoga and Kundalini. It seemed beneficial to separate, I accessed states that seem out of body some hours ago. That could be difficult if my headspace is on full oneness, where there is neither nothing or everything to separate oneself from.
      I thought of what you said. I put nirvana/liberation as the goal, I did not budge here. However I reflect, it is true that many practitioners I watch, that are considered advanced, globally and across multiple systems, do show high altruism. Most recent example I know of was when bishop Mar was assaulted, stabbed in the eye, yet always remained in prayer for the salvation and God's mercy upon his attacker. From this I reflected on the concept of oneness and solipsism. Like a character in a dream, I do not watch you. I watch "my you". Same as if I saw my body in second person view from your field of vision, I would say "who has cast me out of my body?".
      Now, I observe from my writing, that I dislike using pali words. I prefer awake to Buddha, I prefer liberty to Nirvana. I like keeping this simple and open. On the other hand, I prefer dukkha to "suffering". Because I like the definition in the text defining dukkha. The text, that goes through the various forms of dukkha, show that the problem has been understood.
      This prevents Buddhism from presenting itself in my view as the coping mechanism of the loss. Sukkha, the opposite of dukkha is real. I use the example of dreams, it's something a human can access fast first-hand knowledge from. It is very important that those who suffer dukkha understand that the problem is understood and a satisfactory solution is attainable, in this life, within 7 to 15 years.
      Sometimes If I as a practitioner is very stressed, I as the teacher, conditioned with perfected view, understanding, right speech can do the action of saying "calm down, this takes 30 years to achieve" and then manifest a huge progress and strong experience during guided meditation that very night. I have also experienced the opposite "no, we are gonna keep going, I know we can make a breakthrough tonight" and we did.
      You can find this level of mastery in Sufi Muslims, gnostic christians, kabbalah Jews, Buddhists practitioners and Hindu yogis. With ears to listen and eyes to see, I can pick up skill easily from these sources. I actually learned a way to breathe heat into my body, tummo breathing, just by looking at pictures and being soaked in rain on my way home on my bike. This is tantra, as a secret within, kept from myself and revealed by myself. Delivered by Tibetan tantra in the form of pictures and empathy. The pictures seemingly try to depict a feeling, and so I also get heightened compassion. Renunciation naturally follows being a master if unbearable compassion. And those ascended masters are worshiped in vajrayana and called upon for help, because their compassion is unbearable. They must help, they cannot stand it.
      I have more, but I think this is enough. It's not a small bite, but you're not a hungry ghost. I am well aware that you monks mediate for many hours, and those who have reached a level in the 8-fold path in a sense never break their meditation, whatever they do.

  • @Green-Dragon206
    @Green-Dragon206 Před 8 dny +2

    What happens if from an early age you experience many mystical experiences. Yet to live in this world, unfortunately you have to shut it down and gain a firm and strong foundation, with your feet firmly on the ground, after all, its a mundane world.

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  Před 7 dny +1

      You certainly meet people who are god haunted or have continual experiences of spirits and manifestations but they often find it difficult to get by in the world and I am not sure they make good spiritual practitioners. A good meditator is someone who is very stable and doesn't get affected by external forces or internal demons.
      My experience is that highly sensitive and emotive people tend to get overwhelmed, but also very critical and rational people find it difficult to practice as well.

    • @Green-Dragon206
      @Green-Dragon206 Před 7 dny +3

      ​@@ultimatemeaning I had many dreams in my youth of places and people, even movies before they were made, that came true. I also learnt that you can't talk about it. It has nothing to do with ones emotional state. But ones emotional state can be affected if you push it and your inner development is not strong enough to cope. There is more to us all, we block it out of fear, we don't really understand this world or what we are capable of.

    • @ultimatemeaning
      @ultimatemeaning  Před 6 dny +2

      @@Green-Dragon206 Most certainly and so we seldom reach our potential