Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels: The German Ideology
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- The German Ideology was arguably the very first, real, concrete 'Marxist' work. Laying out the future for historical materialism, dialectical materialism, division of labor, and alienation via the labor process. From the start, Part I offers a huge response to the Young Hegelians, who at the time, were the mainstream philosophers of Germany. Marx and Engels saw the necessity for a dialectical philosophy in the form of Hegel but radically changed in content. A content that serves as something more material and concrete.
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Intro: 0:00
Illusions of German Ideology: 2:15
History and Consciousness: 5:26
The Real Basis of Ideology: 8:15
The Relation of State and Law to Property: 12:47
Proletarians and Communism: 16:41
A Message: 22:43
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Nice video, I just found your channel and instantly subbed
Why do you call these 2 Jews as Germans? Marx real name was Mordechai Levy and he was from a long line of Rabbis.
wanna hire me to help produce videos?
@@ChaplainBobWalkerBTh Frankfurt school was funded by who?
This seems like Obfuscation of the highest order. Many critics of the time even equated Marxism with Ju*ism
The need for idealism is derived from alienation.
For real tho, shoutout to all the rich people who help keep this channel going. Thanks for being on our side with this.
Haha, very, very true. We love class traitors!!!! (Even though most wealthy people are actually working class.)
@@epochphilosophy at least the "wealthy people" we know haha
Like the slave traders who funded Marx?
@@vinniesullivan7977 like the slave owners who wrote the American constitution?
@@Aidan_ODonnell all explainable you’ll find most slavery was funded by non whites and the companies still thrive, the Empire was funded by the ... as was the destruction of America and the plantations
A lot of people hate Marx and have never even read or tried to understand his writings where his ideas came from or the history they just reject his writings out of hand
Actually most prominent critics of marxism are former marxists
@@consensus949 are you a former Marxist just wondering
@@stephenhill8790 no I am not. Neither am I a former jehova's witness or follower of some nutjob cult.
@@consensus949 Marxism is not a cult. Explain how it is a cult.
@@Red-rj7sr Marxism has a cult-like aproach as when insisting to only use reductionist and quasi-religious (symbolic-essentialistic) socio-political theories to understand phenomena in society even when such phenomena first and foremost have socio-cultural or socio-psychological causes, thus leading to the marxist intent to fight not only political opponents and parties, but also to ban or undermine opposing "cults" such as religion and other "opposing" cultural and social structures, rather than peacefully co-existing with them.
Another great summary of a difficult text, it makes re-reading them alot easier
As an addict I can verify from personal experience that material conditions are what shape my ideas. I didn't begin to recover until my material conditions were bad enough to break through my denial. As I got shelter, food, and separation from the drug of my choice my ideas began to change.
Karl Marx and Engels were the only ones brave enough to have TRULY ORIGINAL and IMPORTANT ideas in age where only nationalism, religion, culture, unelected monarchs forced their way of life onto millions of people and billions of innocent nonhuman animals.
What you are saying is nonsense!🙃🙃
@@6699230as a historian he’s right, in the 1800s absolute monarchies and feudal societies were still the majority of societies
I might not agree with Marx, but we have to look factually as a historian.
To just dismiss ideas because you disagree with it and to deny history because it pertains to someone you disagree with is really dangerous
History should be objective not based off your emotions
very good as always, this quality deserves more views
Thank you my friend!
Arguably his best work. Capital gets all the glory, but this short essay is in my opinion far more powerful and accessable.
Gotha Critique was the best imho
I'm a fan of the Eighteenth Brumaire.
@@hughmac13 I have a Chinese translation into English, printed decades ago, been meaning to find a better copy .
Yes, it's a good book indeed.
@@DJWESG1 I like the German Ideology, too, tho; don't get me wrong.
Facts but it’s not really a short essay considering the German edition is 700 pages in length haha
This made re-reading the text so much more understandable, thank you! great explanations!
Your channel has been so good. Thank you for the world you are doing simplifying and translating these texts. I never had a real shot to go to collage so content like this is such a strong intro and makes the ramp of learning a little smoother. Started a book club pushing some friends (and holding myself accountable) to do intro philosophy and left theory. Your videos have been a great 2nd deeper step from some of the bigger channels.
Please do one on Antonio Gramsci! That would be a really good video!
I second this, Gramsci is amazing!
There are already Gramsci videos
by others,
I am sharing this you deserve more audience
Can you imagine Engels eating soup or drinking tea in the presence of others?
Ideology Series
Next
Lenin What is to be done? the change of the meaning of the term ideology
Maybe Gramsci as pre Althusser
Althusser Ideology the 2nd change of the meaning of the term ideology
Mannheim Ideology and Utopia Maybe a third meaning a historical comparison.
This was a difficult one to read, this is definitely gonna be helpful because I'm sure I missed a lot on my first read through.
Excellent work! Epoch!
Definitely not a Marxist, but there’s a lot of deep philosophy in it. Especially in this book. A lot of Marxist / communist ideas about society vis-a-vis ontology are crazy on point if you use it as a lens to view stuff other than wealth classes. Like ‘false consciousness’.
Go read some Stirner maybe, seems like that portion is more directly addressing his thoughts
It's a profound true critique with a profoundly wrong proposed solution, in my opinion.
Your videos are among the best and most helpful of video essays on YT.
The videos on Marxism are great summaries and have helped me wrap my head around his works for my master's essays. Keep it up!
I would like to see your take on some post-modernists, say Foucault's "Lectures at the College de France".
Incredibly happy to hear this. Appreciate this a ton. But, we will def hit Foucalt in the future!
The two greatest of all times whom nobody has superseded. Thanks!
No, it's been observed over & over again that M&E's analysis is plausible but fall far short as effective remedy. Communist states are brutal & lead to social despair.🤔🤔
@@6699230"Communist states" that's an oxymoron.
regimes? Either way Marx and Engel's way is not working and hasn't.b @@DeezNutz-pj8og
fantastic work!
Even if we disagree with communism we should study Marx more than ever.
Very informative video. To understand basic concepts, a person can watch this video and understand Hegel, Marx and Engels
Great work❤️
Thanks for this video but what's with the guided meditation soundtrack
Thank you very much for the well done videoessay
Noone on earth has explained capitalism better than Marx, not even capitalist ideologues. Marx observed society studied capitalism to its tiniest detail and came to the conclusion of society's solution
This is why I think the German Ideology is one of their weakest texts. In terms of understanding the development of Marx and Engels thinking, it is fundamental...much like understanding how the scientific process had to have gone through a series of abstract symbolisms in order to then be turned onto the beings who engage the world scientifically, ie us.
That being said, Hegel already lays this foundation and it is unfair to explain Hegel away as someone who didnˋt deal with material forces influencing consciousness. He did this in a more fundamental way than Marx did and marx ends up acknowledging this in Capital through his very schema. Hegel is very clear about material forces presupposing their universal comprehension in conceptual form.
The problem with Hegel is that he seems to believe that history having reached a point of collective self awareness itself canˋt be surpassed. Although, this too could be refuted because, as Hegel opines in the intro to his Rechtsphilosophie, that thought merely comes on the scene after the fact in order to then decipher the proverbial hyroglyphs Marx speaks of a few chapters into the first volume of Capital.
Nevertheless, Marx outsmarts Hegel concerning the emphasis of the modes of production, thus material forces as subsequently conceptually comprehended, by using very literal examples given during his time such as those of the various Factory Inspectors of England and Scotland or, and theoretically more pertinent in a way Hegel died too early to grasp, the way in which the accumulation of capital takes the form of an independent force that rules the activity of the people engaged in the process. And in this way, Marx overrrides Hegel, but not by flipping him on his head on his own terms, but by taking the helm of a ship the direction of which Hegel couldnˋt have himself seen.
If anything Marx is to Hegel what Jesus is to God. Marx uses abstract thinking in order to concretize it. Hegel used concrete thought in order to abstract it.
Thank you Henry for this wonderful clarification.
Typical Bourgeois Idealist drivel.
@@joshualittlewolfe8550 lol love all these marxists calling hegel and other philosphers who use big words and employ difficult concepts 'idealists' (gasp!). Yall motherfuckers actually read capital? It's not exactly easy to read.
This video would have been mad funny if used the picture or Stirner everyone uses that was drawn on the napkin
Good stuff.
As I wrote to you on instagram, if I could I would give you all the money I can. This is without a doubt the best channel on YT. Keep up the good work. It resonates so much with me!
good shit as always
so good!!
if all atoms are bound by the laws of nature and we are just atoms then do we just wait?
What are "laws of nature" - not atoms? - and how do they act upon the world?
Waiting for what?
Their critics does not apply to Stirner IMO. I think they didn't understand him and just mocked him like a child. (saint Stirner and whatnot)
I agree. Hegelianism was the big thing, and I think Marx and Engels took every approach they could to try and subvert that. There were a few critiques that kinda made me scratch my head.(Being the Hegelians they are.)
Of course, covering the part I. I had to include this.
@@epochphilosophy Exactly. Thank you for this great video.
This is excelent !
Could you please add subtitles too?
Engels lived near my house. There once was a blue plaque there but somebody stole it.
Mwahahaha
oh man ig i have to respook my brain
oh wait no i dont
Guys, I don't think I like capitalism.
It is the best video about german ideology.
Why the muzak? The droning?
Do a video on Lukacs and reification
Thought/Action and Faith/Good deeds where's the difference.
Can you do a brief one on Mazzini and his occult organisation Carbonari? He lived in sort of the same time as Marx I think. He is the founder of nationalism which is also modern system that tries to reduce the world into a specific and odd point of view; and is you know in respect of the two European wars, the breakup of Yugoslavia , cleansing of Tamils in srilanka(the mass displacement after the breakup of the British Raj and the on going struggles in the Middle East etc etc) seems to be far more destructive to mankind than even Marxist could ever be capable of. It also holds more prospects interms of its subversive capacity. Someone like Dugin could easily use such systems to decide the fate of whole peoples. It holds incredible ability to mobilize people into fanatic acts of self-sacrifice( The Indian army for example when someone dies as few did in the recent border clash with our communist neighbor China, were considered tactically as having sacrificed themselves for Nation. I assume if they body count were to increase exponential the perception would never change). I think Nationalism is more effective since who could be so motivated about economic matters "material dialects" has no existence in history, however nationalism and the nationalisttic system of viewing the world is free to make use of religion, ethnicity, sovereignty, carachature of architecture and even old customs to motivate the peoples against eachother etc( besides people on tbe right are tend to be little dumber than the left). These idols were employed mind due in Italian Fascism if I'm not every much mistaken, and tbe architecture plans of that sort are visible in Hitler's plans for renovation of Berlin, I can see tbe same force in India too resulting in odd looking temples, and some silly artistic designs( depiction of gods with six-packs or inspiration from Japanese and other styles of art popular in post-modernism. The expansion through Hinduisation is something that we have to deal with since we are but a numerically small and quite disinterested people's in respect to the Hindi speaking peoples who overall seem to have less inhibitions as a general in respect to their tastes just my opinion.).
This critique of the division of labour sounds the same as Rousseau.
based and subscribed
Part one is a little absurd except the thesis on Feuerbach, part 2 of the book is more concrete on Saint Sancho , haha
Look towards the stars.
I keep hearing this word "dialectical" what is it ?
18:00 i think you're confusing unity with uniformization. Unity is something normal in natural law. Aristotle said something like everything is unique. So unity is something that would have been present when justice is defined as "giving to that what is due to it" and many other implications that stem from recognition of the natural law.
So everything is odered and has will have a place as it must've been in Europe during the middle ages before the reformation. Uniformization is seen in the attitude through which China probably treats it's citizens, I heard they still have to go to reduction camps where they don't even teach them anything proper but it's like punishment or something.
This will get HS/NSA/FBI/CIA at your doorstep. Very nice video.
take your meds, schizo.
@pond skater No, he's right, cointelpro never happened. B)
@@pichirisu cointelpro would be a blessing in place of what we probably have now 😔
In 2016 I started talking to people about call Marx. I thought they were going to stone me. I tried to tell him it’s not what you think it is but they all put up their guard and said we hate Karl Marx without any explanation as to why? Then you show them exactly what’s going on and Marx had it on the point as easy to see is how we live today.
What’s wrong with people?
Although capitalism is now the dominate global economic system, only in United States is it the national ideology or even religion.
The UK isn't much better
The wage system separates the producer from the the social product of labour. The wage system is at the material roots of alienation. The separation of the subject from the object of its creation, whether that object is an automobile or an idea like a plan for the adequate supply of necessities to a community of individuals.
Ask yourself, "Where has the wage-system been abolished by the producers of wealth, the working class? Has the alienation of the product from the producer's control and ownership been established anywhere on the Earth?
"The German Ideology "was written in 1845. Communism means individualism. Not narrow individualism, the 'hooray for me, devil take the hindmost' individualism. Capitalist or narrow individualism is based on a negative dynamic for freedom: My freedom is your un-freedom. We need communist individualism, an individualism firmly based on the principle of equal political power amongst all men and women. Nobody should have more political power than anyone else in a classless association of free producers. This principle, consciously enforced by the association of free producers themselves in a spirit of solidarity will ensure that people attempting to impose political power over others are shunned by consensus, up to and including exclusion from the society for periods of time.
"Thus things have now come to such a pass that the individuals must appropriate the existing totality of productive forces, not only to achieve self-activity, but, also, merely to safeguard their very existence. This appropriation is first determined by the object to be appropriated, the productive forces, which have been developed to a totality and which only exist within a universal intercourse. From this aspect alone, therefore, this appropriation must have a universal character corresponding to the productive forces and the intercourse.
"The appropriation of these forces is itself nothing more than the development of the *individual capacities* corresponding to the material instruments of production. The appropriation of a totality of instruments of production is, for this very reason, the development of a totality of capacities in the *individuals* themselves."
from THE GERMAN IDEOLOGY
hello, i’m here from Vaush’s channel. after seeing your conversation with him i wanted to come over and take a look at your content. this was a very well written video and i’m glad to be able to learn some new things from you.
-A kind Vaushite (i think that’s the name of the community)
Lol the way you pronounce 'hitherto' 17:33
Yeah, I don't normally comment on such things, but... it somehow distracted me so much that I thought I might, though of course I figured I'd first check if there was an existing comment. Yeah, dunno if [saying this to the video creator] you've ever heard someone say "hither and thither", but if so, I hope you'll now know how "hitherto" is usually pronounced...
Theological and Greek. Logos of the meaning or purpose or purpose of historical events. The telos of the gospels gives a original purpose of historical events.
Thank you for this. Gonna get off my ass and read this one.
What year did Karl Marx change his name?
If anyone is familiar with current theories for human perception, Gibson’s model, theory of affordances and the concept of perception and action (basically that perception particularly visual which in turn guides our ideology is formed through movement). The theory is very dense and my capstone in the area was a pain so to shorten it, think of it this way: you see a front door. You know it’s 3D. You know each step is a small rectangle snd eoukf feel grainy and cool to the touch. You know that you can use them as a sort of jagged ramp to approach the door. You know the door knob is round, it’s appears as sphere based on the shadows and shape you Whether to twist it, push in, etc.. you see the doorway is a rectangle and you see you can fit through it. You know you cannot pass through until you engage with the other objects or somebody else does allowing it to open. None of those things would be possible for you as a human ... but you couldn’t possibly understand and even see these things if you were unable to move. Without movement and out ability to engage with the material world vision and other senses snd jn turn our ideology and imagination (as we know then) cannot exist
What a great video for a segway to ecosocialist dicussions.
Plug left bookstores for left books
*sniffs *pure ideology*
7:29 Marx offers an exact description of what is happening in the US in 2023; history stops happening in the US and it is not possible to talk about the alternative system to the US because the American bourgeoisie like the Germans in Marx’s time lack the power of comprehension and lost all their ‘senses’ since history has stopped. The one difference between German bourgeoisie then and America’s now is a robust material basis for a true affluent society.
This is a very good presentation of texts for learning. All this theory now has to go into the realm of practice.
Also do a video on Dugin's "fascistic", "geo-political" eschatology. You must've heard about it, the landpower and seapower nonsense? Russians as destined to rule of the world or some such nonsense. I have no idea what geo-politics is really about. It sounds like "lebensraum" but on steroids
Very interesting topic actually. I will take this seriously.
@@epochphilosophy 👍
NazBols. You're correct, it's disturbing nonsense.
Solid thoughts on Marxism
Ironic when the video gets interrupted by adverts.
Derrida's Glas, by accident.
Unfortunate name for this channel: I assumed it was associated with the Epoch Times, which I wouldn't touch with a ten-foot pole.
I'd touch it with a pole like a Bangalore torpedo.
13:00 Marx and Engels saying that slavery and surfdom fed into what became capitalism. That is quite the bold claim, and yet they believe that it is wrong to look at societal structures in isolation? Did they genuinely consider the social structures of multiple capitalist societies before making that assessment.
I'm of the belief that capitalism wasn't just born in the 1500's, but that it existed even during the trade era before money was invented.
This could totally be a wrong assessment of capitalism, but I just wonder how that perspective might change the claim that surfdom and slavery were the systems that were seeded and sprouted into capitalism.
Thank you
Ideological assumptions, you can't foretell the aim of history or its consequences by a scientific process.
I find it a funny tragedy that one of my German ancestors came to America in 1848 (to avoid getting caught up in the 1848 Revolutions, i presume) only to end up getting caught up in the Civil War of 1865 (lmao).
Jacob Fiedler, RIP. (he fought for the Union btw. I mean, come on. He was German. Ever heard of Pennsylvania?)
Can someone write my paper on this 😭😭
Someone help her!!!
Isn't there a contradiction in Hegel himself; that he was conservative or pretended to be yet conceived the most awfully progressive thought possible? He doesn't strike me as a subversive or revolutionary chap yet his followers were all of that sort for whom Hegel was merely a tool( dispensing with Hegel's own political preference whatever that might've been). He being ever so perceptive must've been aware of these contradictions
Nevermind. Should've googled before commenting 😑 czcams.com/video/qYCOVP49rbM/video.html
It's clear now.
I sort of get what Hegel was implying from his non-catholic unorthodox point of view. I guess he was intend on including putting a final note to the progress of his era with God finally disclosing himself (or some kinda of final realisation). Philosophy is the doesn't cause effects in the world but receives tbe effects from history (or something) he says. I am at this point aching to read Hegel myself. However I can sort work with scraps here and there, in a haphazard way. He must've been thinking within his time period I guess as he himself is supposed to have said, seeing the Renaissance, and "Enlightenment" activists like Voltaire and the French organisations behind the revolution not as accidental anomaly but as pointing to a comming end or point. I'm getting the feeling that in Hegel's Philosophical work we might be seeing that religious fervour ( Protestant fervour? I have no idea) in respect to the comming of Christ. It would help make sense of Hegel's conservatism.
I’m a Marxist but goddamn I cannot parse Marx’s writing.
comment for the algorithm
Eh wle nadim
The gravitas, this is religion for you guys isn't It?
If you will know them by their fruits what was the fruits of his work?
I notice that you said Marx said that the "State" whether in 14:05 feudal or modern times is supposed to have this or the other role or something. The point here is that Marx is someone who seem to have faith in Scientism or Physicis or "quantum mechanics" (whatever they call it now). He seem to be adhering to the "law" of Scientistism, the one that brothers me the one about "uniformity of nature". He calls capitalism an "ideology" but from this he makes the "faithful" conclusion, as he imposes this understanding onto rest universe to synchronize all if humanity into his system, the notorious Marxist system. I am right or AM I right?? The world has to LOWER itself to the level of the Ideologist, i e the creep who sees nothing but Ideologies everywhere he looks. He has come to loose the capacity to see the world otherwise, even in the most genuine of human expressions only seem the operation of what he has come to see- Ideology. It's sort of personal choice I suspect. It might be too much to ask such a disconnected, and self-debased man to raise himself to the world, especially when he imagines to represent the lower sections of a population, the realm where force of necessity is strongest and where no quality or distinction is found in people, disrespectfully called "the rumble".
Watch the video again. It says quite clearly that human beings are beings that produce and consume, their material reality is the one they create with their productive labour, either on their own or as a group.
When capitalism comes in is when one person takes over that mode of production and takes a slice of the profits , that's where the ideology comes in, it through ideology the whole system becomes something to be controlled maintained, and grown.
Thus, as it grows and comes into competition with other capital it is forced to move unevenly around the globe , chasing the profit. The competition thus drives a division of production, and alienation becomes a thing. The people become alien and separate from the very thing that keeps them human, their labour.
@@DJWESG1 I'm not certain whether Marx himself invented the new term "Ideology". It's definitely his stick now, but also used to explain other modern thought such as Nationalism as in "nationalist ideology", facism as in "facist ideology". I suppose the term restricts itself to the political domain alone. He give it new meaning that from the context in which he employs it; it's come down to use via pop-culture and through dissemination.
I was supposed to point out that Mrax used the term in the modern context, to indicate the ways of life in the world post the rise of the bourgeoisie. That's task one of that term. Another task it seem to be useful for is discarding to making null and void the true and sincere expressions as well as commercial and other earthly motives that we can find. When you're Atheist like Neitzchie you become Heraclitian so revolution is justified because nothing is real but falsehood. Nietzsche sketches this out in his nihilist. He also calls Communists "poisonous spider or something"; then man speaks in riddles. I have no idea what he really meant!
@@jackdarby2168 the human ideas other humans follow.. mono theistic religion, free market capitalism, transcendentalism, paganism, the wombles, apple...
It's all ideology.
"immediately Marx and Engels take an extremely aggressive approach against the young hegelians" ignores Marx's hegelian background
Low IQ comment
Great on paper; worthless in practice. Dreamer philosophy.
See, I think it reads lousy, too...I'm repulsed by the derivative and still lame philosophy of altruism and egalitarianism offered by the Marxiand and the Christians. Herd mentality, hive mind, sanctifying victim hood
I was trying to think of examples where historical materialism fails to explain the history of a society. It seems I didn’t have to look too far. The USSR devolved into market capitalism ...
I don’t understand are you seeing that the USSR regressing into capitalism discredits historical materialism?
actually historical materialism explains Russias failing pretty well. also, do you think that Marx argued there would be this one great triumph of the workers with no longer phase of class struggles and failings?
The negation of the negation, one of the three laws of dialectical materialism. You're gonna have to look harder.
@@filip1261 the negation of the negation can be both complementary or contradictory. The contradictory negation would probably be corporate fascism in which people are forcibly brainwashed. Hence collectivity in individuality. Inherently, more contradictions are driven into the system, which necessitates a more volatile reaction. The complementary aspect is mans understanding of himself as One and raising up true individuality in collectivity.
a society can progress into another stage as it can regress
Hegel the idol of sudo philosophy. From now I have no respect for you.
He is of the Devil
I'm a staunch Satanist and a staunch Patriotic Constitutional Capitalist Citizen of the USA... I'll be voting a third DJT... make of that what you will.
"...emancipatory politics"?
What is so emancipatory about parents having to eat their own children?
You're subscribed to, like, every conservative channel on yt, how did you stumble across this video? What did you type in the search bar? Did someone recommend it to you? Did the yt algorithm recommend it you?
@@Srijit1946 YT algo - I watch a lot of commentary - all views. Hegel's view has it that those who are on the fringes can and will be right about some things - things the rest of us miss. Canaries in the proverbial. I have, so far, learned nothing positive about anti-vaxx or flat earth movements, but I do know more about where many of them come from and why they may hold certain views. It's something positive, I suppose.
Berlin's view had it that if you want to understand a view, take it to its extremes.
So that's why I came here.
, the neonazi asks. dude at least make sure that people don't see which channels you are following
@@odb1612 Why?
@@damianbylightning6823 idk, most nazis are at least smart enough to mask their believes in order to be taken serious
Misinformation
Please feel free to go into detail.
German? Try Jewish
Try indian brother.
At least new-age psychobabble is entertaining, this word-salad of gibberish is merely boring.
These ideolgy is a bunch of BS!