Battlefield 2042... the End of an Era
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- čas přidán 6. 06. 2024
- Battlefield fans are upset with Battlefield 2042 and the Battlefield 2042 Beta Gameplay. Specialists have taken over the class system and some say this is Battlefield's Call of Duty Warzone, or Apex Legends. It's Controversial.
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0:00 Battlefield Beta History
1:35 Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield 1, Battlefield 5
2:58 Battlefield, Call of Duty and Halo
3:43 Battlefield 2042 Controversy
4:34 Class System vs Specialists
5:37 AI Bots are Bad
6:13 Teamwork is Gone?
7:15 Everything Wrong with Battlefield 2042 Beta
9:04 Battlefield 2042 Immersion
10:20 Gunplay and Plus System
11:30 Battlefield 2042 Movement
12:19 Vehicles and UI issues
13:21 Battlefield 2042 Review
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What'd you think of the Battlefield 2042 Beta? and, are you mostly a BF player, COD, Apex Legends, something else?!
Beta Poll: imgur.com/gallery/b7Og1cU
BF nut here. Still play BF4 and BF1 a few times a week. I dabble in COD, but SBMM has really burnt me out on it and won't be getting Vanguard. Never got into Apex because I was butthurt at what it did to my boy Titanfall.
I absolutely love the beta sometimes funny rag dolls can happen like when I saw someone flew when getting ran over And I’m mostly a BF player and sometimes I play MW2019
I play a lot of things and isn't a diehard battlefield fan and i thought it was so damn fun!
I was mostly a COD player, after the slap in the face that was Cold War, I wanted something new. BF2042 was that. I bought bf1 and bfV. I love them, but I wanted something modern. Something that all of my friends wanna play with me. We loved the beta. I hate some of the glitches and the classes, but still, I love it. I see why people hate it. That’s fine. But I think Battlefield is now the game I want.
i had alot of fun with the beta, i am ignoring the bugs for now cuz its a beta. however the operator system needs to be replaced with standard classes.
"Non-lethals like the repair tool."
Me with over 1000 repair tool kills in BF4.
loved the repair tool kills,also when you could kill with the defibs
I have 657 defibrillator kills in BF4
XD
Bro this comment is legend status! I thought the same thing when he said that😂😂😂
"1,000 repair tool kills in BF4."
I'm jealous, I used the M16 in BF4. You could literally spam it fast enough to make full auto. Yet I struggle to get 50 kills being at home all day.
Even though there's bigger lobbies, it feels like squad play and teamwork is nonexistant.
that’s not a game issue. it’s a community issue
Same, but then again I have found this to be 50/50 since you can have some really great team players and then find people who just want to shot and kill everyone.
If you play on pc and you want a large scale battles that emphasize teamwork, play squad. It’s the more realistic battlefield. This game I’m getting for the sole purpose of goofing around. But if I want a serious experience, I play squad.
@@SomeGuyWithWi-Fi Yeah, most of the community fall into COD Mw19, so their used to being solo.
I think it's the fact that they have gadgets accessible to any character now and the auto-heal is kind of fast
so basically everyone picks McKay for the grapple + ammo crate gadget which allows you to get a lot of kills easily
no one really goes healer because the auto heal is fast and the healing dart is kinda easy to miss on a teammate; plus the revive was super clunky I saw a lot of people picking up the dead guy's gun instead
I love how everyone has collectively forgotten about Hardline
Whats that!? Lol i played it once and never played again
It died so quickly. It had some really gamemodes that I loved playing, but I couldn't get any of my mates to play it so I didn't get many hours in.
It was such an underrated game imo
I’m a battlefield fan boy, and even I hated hardline. It was terrible
I regretted buying Hardline honestly.
I actually really liked hardline and still play it from time to time (when I can find a server). I don’t need a reason to like it, I just like it
I think the bots in Titanfall were actually quite good, made you feel like you were a part of some big battle.
The difference being Titanfall bots are not representation of an actual player (since they are grunts)
While 2042 on the other hand tries to use bots to replace actual players, which in my opinion creates a much shallow experience since the bots are designed to be mowed down by the players
@@woodydragonest agreed, imo BF bots should be much weaker and smaller in size to easily differentiate them. They should come in squads that deploy on sectors. One grunt is not meant to be player equals but a squad of them can kill a player. As more players join, less spawn and once the server is full then not more bots. It will still keep the player number high but also ensure that the bots stay as they should be, bots.
@@woodydragonest I feel the exact same way! I do not like the idea of player-skilled bots because that really makes me feel like it isn’t battlefield anymore. The “only in battlefield moments” are made with real players.....not bots. Titanfall at least did it good. Im not to thrilled about how battlefield is doing it as of now.
Side note: factions should definitely be introduced in my opinion
I don’t
They’re completely useless, get in the way and have absolutely zero satisfaction of killing them
@@satan899 that’s why in titanfall there are modes without them if you don’t like them. They are a staple in attrition.
The problem with this game is DEEPLY rooted in the "class" system. There no team play cause there's no classes. Specialists can stay, but just give us set class roles!
Imo restricting secondary gadgets to classes would be a good first step
Specialist should just be a skin template with no hero shooter element
Specialists cannot stay.
@@Aqueox unfortunately they wont be going anywhere I think
You can always cancel your BF2042 preorder. It helps let DICE know they did things wrong and also you get your money back... Win Win!!
DICE: Makes a trailer honoring the battlefield community
Also DICE: Makes a game that feels like it is made for the Cod and Apex Legends community.
This
As long as it's a good game at launch, I have no problem with this, haha
@@kompst_tu you are part of the problem
Wow it has more features and you can slide around now. Must be call of duty
Why in the fuck would we want battlefield 4? We want a new game not an old one
“It’s not about the past it’s about the future” yet all of the marketing was nostalgia bait to give us older battlefield fans hope. The bastards.
that was more for portal and not the base game. The base game was very clearly marketed as a futuristic and fast paced game.
You’re pfp is me watching any gameplay of this game this game is cod with a carbon copy of battle front 2 graphics and time to kill of apex legends
@@happyx7203 you clearly haven't played the beta.
Well said my friend!! Who knew a game franchise could break my heart
@@Dexiclon don't need to as clip & comment form many who tried the beta expresses similar complaints & point out the similarity which was not the case with previous BF.
it’s just kind of depressing, because i know now that we will never see a “battlefield” game again, but that’s okay, because we still have gems like bf1 and bf4
Bf1 is not a gem
Bf1 kinda sucked
Bf4 was the last great bf
@@elchangux ur faded
@@PlanK_SA you're faded pal
The argument with BF becoming more COD-like is due to the fact that most generic shooters nowadays that feel bland and uninspired devolve into replicating the COD formula. BF has always had its unique taste which made it feel more realistic, significantly more skill based and far more strategic. BF did not need to change it's formula at all as it has already established a very dedicated fanbase and by slowly moving away from what gave it the glory it has always had, the complaints proceed to increase rightfully so.
The gunplay does feel like BF. Most people whining are going to buy it anyway hahah. Portal and hazard zone are the innovations you are talking about. Or you are just ignoring all the innovations and new ideas because it did some things like cod? You’re delusional.
It's sad seeing the better game trying to become its little brother just because it has more friends at school.
@@0hleg gunplay isn't the only component of the game though, most people aren't complaining about the gun play but the general direction of the game into making everything more monetized
@@dannylipatov6530 yeah the specialist system, movement, and backpedaling of the destruction feels like it’s just sacrificing all the team play aspects and gameplay formula in favor of being more appealing to the masses.
@@ollytherevenant1653 totally dude, even the hurricane, like it's cool but then you can't even feel fully immersed with that sometimes, the rest of the map is still light as if no storm is there and the storm doesn't seem to do much to the environment just movable objects
My favorite thing in Battlefield is the feeling of being part of a war. 2042 didn’t give me that it just felt like a big Warzone match
I agree. Even though I enjoyed 2042 beta, but something was missing.
@@HragFarraGaming yea exactly I don’t think it was bad just kinda mid and generic. I could literally *feel* that their heart wasn’t in this one. I do have to mention that I LOVE being able to switch attachments on the fly and the new versatility of loadouts is hella refreshing after 300+ hrs of BF5 so A+ there imo
Exactly doesn’t feel like anything except TDM
Same tht was the feeling that was empty inside me
@@a.g.m8790 bruh no heart and you put several hundred hours into BFV? Good grief...
bf1 still my favorite shooter of all time, especially because of the ww1 setting, there is nothing like it outside of the more historically accurate verdun game
will never forget the feeling getting trapped in a building during an amiens match, or sniping people at suez... i can already smell the chlorine gas
Getting the perfect shot in Suez 😍😍
Check out Hell Let Loose. It’s a cool WW2 game. It’s better to have a micro though to enjoy the game to the fullest.
I love everything about 2042 EXCEPT the "Specialist" characters, it's a blatant CoD rip off and I enjoyed not knowing who my Soldier was in multiplayer, It allowed me to customize him into my own interpretation of who I wanted to be.
The thing I don't understand is... There are other people on your team... And they have the same 4 characters to choose from....right? So everyone running around in the game are the same 4 people? It makes no sense to me. Maybe I'm the only one who thinks that Other People are People TOO!?!? Is everyone so narcissistic that they think that THEY are the only ones that get to be a singular individual?
@@christophermoody6840 What?
@@beyondsplintered9166 you have 4 characters/specialist to choose from right. They aren't just generic classes like before... They have an individual character/personality attached to each specialist right? But everyone picks from one of the four.... There are 64 people per team so technically there could be 64 people running around as the Medic Lady... Or the Hispanic lookin' dude. Am I crazy or is this a hard concept to understand? They should just leave them as genetic soldiers without individual identity.
Atentamente: el jugador que moría muchas veces
Yes, CoD invented specialists
All i can say is i really appreciate the simplicity of BF1
This game gives me great appreciation for bfv as well. Tanks and customization never seemed so perfect
BF1 was art
@@hisham7679 it my first bf since OG xbox days and i can say i loved it, it does get repetitive but its nice and slow imo
@@iDayVids Ya definitely not Bfv was terrible and you know it
@@ender_3807 its was bad but what about the abortion that was battlefield hardline
I’ve never been revived so little in a battlefield game before. That needs addressing. 90% of the time no one is reviving.
It happened in BFV also no one revived
Why would I play Falck when I could have any other cool gadget? Plus with squad revives, I can revive my friends.
Yup, specialists killed teamplay and there's nothing that can be done about it because it's all about money at the end of the day.
@@malazan6004 uhh lots of people revived in bf5
@@malazan6004 lots of people do revive
I mean people are forgetting it’s a beta. Team play isn’t gonna be an emphasis and people are trying out the fun shit
Third person execution will be monetized… they will more than likely be called finishers. This game is meant to appeal to the middle schoolers who really love Apex. Yanno who I mean… The ones who get to borrow mom and dad‘s credit card to buy skins for their Apex heroes.
Sadly you're right. But they can spew forth all the finishers they want. Nothing will beat bf1 clubs, just bashing a dudes head in was soo brutal
As someone who's last battlefield was BF3, I'm shocked at how unrecognizable the series has become.
if you been out so long you can't really talk. The game is breaking the internet in good ways too. Not everyone is a whiny kid.
@@dakrawnik4208 it’s dying
Damn didn’t even play bf4
Man skipped the two greatest FPS games of all time BF4 and BF1
@@marsmurderer9868 BF1 was not good.
Man playing battlefield 1 spoiled me, i loved the almost perfect atmosphere the game set up with how gritty and grimey everything felt and how much weight the guns and characters had, now everything is so light
Thank you! I have been trying to work out what it was that was bugging me so much and this is it!
Battlefield one was garbage
@@danwilliams7554 nope. It was sick. V on the other hand was dogwater
@@weavercs4014 5 was also very good tbh
@@weavercs4014 probably just not good at it
For double the player count I felt like I spent most of my time just running than actually fighting, Oribital felt really empty and has so much open space that it just felt kind of lifeless, dunno but when I heard 128 players, all out warfare I expected just chaos and really intense battles which I didn’t feel like I experienced once in the beta.
I felt the same way as you did. One of my mates made a good point though. I also agree that making the maps much bigger and adding players doesnt change the gameplay at all. You end up having the same long periods without a fight. However, what it does is both. Whilst on the whole there are quiet empty areas to plan an attack, there is also the possibility that a lot of players will go to a certain check point and it will feel like all out warfare. So this gives us the potential to have massive battles, where we never had that before. Granted, they might be long and far between but when they do happen it's going to be hectic. Just my two cents. Peace
Yeah, it felt like a running simulator sometimes. You can run for so long, and just get killed by a dude hiding is bushes and shit. Even better, you run forever and mistake an enemy for a teammate, and die.
Its horrible map.
Run into objective to objective you go stealthy and blazing fire when other team mates gets in don't forget to spot and trowing some detector ball thing especially if you're casper . 2042 I feel it. I had a blast in the beta ,I hope to see some more.
I feel like most of u guys complaining about endlessly running came from cod 3vs3 maps.. like cmon- u have multiple ropes vertical and horizontal across the map, grapple gun, spawns on points/teammates/vehicles, spawn ur own vehicle from thablet anywhere, anytime.. so where exactly did u run? Couse i felt freedom about engaging battle my way more than in any other previous battlefield?
2:03 - "they felt that their beloved Battlefield franchise was turning into some other game" - us BF veterans on EAUK forums in 2010/11.
“Over time things will iron out as they always do”. This. This attitude is the problem right there.
1000%. This lowering of expectations let's the developers keep releasing half-finished crap but people keep on accepting it. At least this time it seems like a lot of people are speaking with their wallets. Will it help? IDK.
@@Badger3k that is the point, we’ve ALWAYS gave shit, but it does nothing. The games are great, stop being such Debby downers.
@@captainguyman7382 you don't give a shit about your money that's your personal problem. The game is dogshit and so is your attitude. Take this filthy outlook somewhere else.
@@reaper4591 respect earned
Agreed. If I handed you a set of pickles and a sesame seed bun at a fast food place and told you "Over time things will iron out as they always do." you would demand to see my manager and get an actual burger instead of being given the ingredients in three hour increments.
I really don’t wanna see 47 Boris’ on my team and the enemy’s.
Who's bright idea was it to make specialists but then also make said specialists universal.....
This beta build is months old, I’m sure they’ve already developed specialist appearance variations
@@Samuel2oh9 tired of the "it’s a beta" excuse. You say that every time and you’re always wrong.
@@Samuel2oh9 the whole concept of the specialists broke the battlefield. Nobody has a role now, it's just every man for himself.
@@CoyoteRecon...
The reason I LOVE the BF franchise so much is the feeling of being a small piece in a large tactical fight. This game is like COD with bigger maps. Super disappointing, why change your formula???
@Elite-Force Cinema what the fuck are you saying
@Elite-Force Cinema Bro what in the world are you on about 😂 got some dude speaking broken english on some dumb stuff that doesn't even make any sense
The same feeling is in this game, planes, tanks, everything. All the warfare is there. Idk what people are talking about
@@drbuffed4651 The game doesn't suck but if you're gonna pretend this is true Battlefield, you're an idiot pretending. The class system literally defined what Battlefield is and you can't tell me otherwise, it defined how the game works. Engineers did their job by running a launcher and a repair tool, been that way forever. No now that engineer can only run one or the other and has to run a piece of bs "specialist gear" he doesn't want. That's the "same feeling" to you? Again, game doesn't suck, but what it doesn't need is simps riding it like you who pretend its perfect who probably just rode the hype train and never played that much Battlefield to even understand what people are complaining about.
@@sivarogue1490 It’s pretty good as is, you don’t need class when they are already class in the game.
I've refunded this, after playing around 10h of the beta. I REALLY wanted to like this game. Been playing BF since BF2 i've only skipped BF5. The problem this game has is that it has ZERO immersion. Not a single time did I feel like i was taking part of a grand scale war. I could jump info BF4 right now (which i still do from time to time) and get that feeling within 5 minuts. The gun play is gimped, the heli feels wierd to fly, the jets are useless, tanks are on ice. Also, i did not one time feel like i made a difference. Kill a squad on an objektive and start capping it? 3 guys will fall from the sky to find and kill you (parachuting across the map). Kill a tank? Another will spawn right after, leaving you hard earned kill point less, from a strategic large scale view. And dont get me started on operators. That must be the stupiest mistake in game design history. I guess good, true, authentic wargames are a niche genre now, it boggels my mind, but furtunatly we got squad and hell let loose. But man i would have loved another great installment in the battlefield series.
Damn we really out here living the same life and sharing the exact same view on gaming. Even when you mentioned squad and HLL. Cheers.
The problem I have is that it’s too colorful. I’m gonna sound edgy but I love when the color in a war game is dark, it makes you feel like you’re just another solider in a endless conflict. That’s what I loved from battlefield 1. Go back and play battlefield 1 with no HUD and you’ll feel like a solider who is terrified of losing his life. Also the maps are way too big
First really got into the community with Battlefield 1. Hoping they add it to Portal sometime, loved the game
Even though I’ve been on battlefield since modern combat, the best battlefield experience for me was Operations on BF1. Without a doubt I had the most amount of immersion, and fun playing that game mode. I really wish somehow they could implement it into 2042.
Same. In BF1, Operations made much more sense and immersive than conquest since it's WW1. I find conquest an outdated mode, and it's worse when you have larger maps like the recent beta. Increasing player count doesnt help the flow of conquest when you add bots that replace players to the equation
Same, the chaos and realism was perfect and I still play it a lot. I do rlly hope they implement that in 2042.
@Jackoftrades I agree, it's my fav.
Same here, a fan since modern combat. Those were the days hehe.
@@ytn675 BF1 Had one flaw. Those damn mortars, man. Always the mortars.
It didn’t feel like I’m part of a team with the beta. Other Battlefields felt more like you’re all working together, this kind of felt like a free for all. I enjoyed it but it’s got a long way to go to become my favourite battlefield. Guess a lot of ppl with be using the portal mode for that sort of play
But that’s not cause of the game that’s just the player base
@@sgtnikito7668 the lack of a class system and the way the maps are laid out, along with the awkwardness of some equipment makes it too difficult or inconvenient for most people to even try working as a unit. The game design is flawed to a point where it breaks a core component of Battlefield games. It does beyond player to player interaction
Bro..... I'm sorry to tell you but it's been like that since BF3 and onwards
Squad play has been dying since Bad Company 1, at this point your squad is just mobile spawn points
@@Echoplex25 fax I feel like since bf4 all the way until now that medics didn’t do shit except heal themselves and maybe their friends in their squad. Squad play been dead
@@sgtnikito7668 I hear you with the medics not reviving for sure. Even so though just last night in 1 game on BF5 I had more revives than the whole of the beta. Still had the ‘medics’ that run straight past you though. I’m not particularly great at the gun play as I’m knocking on now so I like to make myself useful with repairs, heals revives etc. I wonder if the size of the maps is adding to the issue as well. Still enjoyed the beta but I doubt I’ll hop on solo as much as the other Battlefields.
I would really like to see Dice return to its roots, I’ve played Battlefield since 1942, and for me I’ve had a bad taste in my mouth since around BF4. Large scale BF2/2142 on modern technology would be immense, 2143 with a modernised Titan gamemode would be godly.
Bf1942 still is my favorite. Fronts from large scale Pacific naval assault with manned ships to middle of Berlin. No real-time x-ray dorito spotting, no UI pop-ups, good classes, no forced squads. I like natural squads(waves) more than set ones, as you are going to die and then the squad is scattered. I legit didn't buy BfV because of squad-spawn system.
Like, spotting (and coms) could be given only to local team-mates rather than a set squad and across the map. That one change would give a better natural squad feel I think.
Also yes, titan gamemode!
This 💯
@@Viljarms Squad spawn has been around since BF2, where were you all this time?
I dont think DICE can ever return to its roots.... pretty much all of the original devs have left. And if EA are pulling in people like Fawzi Mesmar to be head designer of the franchise. Then Franchise is well and truly done.
My expectations for the next BF game is so low but im sure i'll be massively disappointed with whatever comes out from DICE
The last Battlefield game I played was 4 but I don’t remember the flying controls being so horrible and unusable, and the driving feeling so bad (like there’s no weight or physics)
absolutely man I had such a hard time flying in 2042, it’s like there’s no momentum so it’s disorientating
switch the "fixed wing buttons" from default to alternate, then it's just like bf4 👍 at least for helicopters. i haven't flown a jet in 2042 yet
@@mikepetterson9906 man that's EXACTLY what I was typing all over the videos in hope they will change it. It HAS NO MOMENTUM!
@@mikepetterson9906 the flight-physics are absolutely terrible. It was perfect in Battlefield 4 where you spent a lot of time to master it. Once you did it felt so amazing and satisfying because you don't ser many good pilots. But now it feels stiff and clunky and those unpredictable movements you can make are even worse for the Infantry with an RPG on the ground, because it's almost impossible to forsee in which direction the heli is flying because they don't seem to have momentum and real physics.
Compared to BF4 it feels realy simplified and is comparable to Ghost Recon Wildlands or Just Cause or Warzone or other openworld fun games that have clearly no focus on vehicles.
What makes it even worse, is that the minigun from the little Bird is bad aswell. You can literaly shoot in 3rd person and you're more acurate in Dogfights with other Helis.
They are using the same driving system from bf3, and that was outdated for its time. The vehicles hug the ground as if they are on rails, the steering sucks, and they go too fast. It's been terrible in every bf game since bf3, and they haven't even tried to fix it.
My thoughts exactly. Feel like 128players doing their own thing. It feels lifeless to me. My only hope is in portal and some very creative people
@@GreaterFeatz You are a bit ignorant if that is the only take-away you had from his comment.
Don't be part of the problem.
You can always cancel your BF2042 preorder. It helps let DICE know they did things wrong and also you get your money back... Win Win!!
@PuGa_805 There will be more game modes than conquest and in my trash opinion I believe the game was built heavily around Hazard Zone. Which we havent seen anything on yet.
@PuGa_805 I pre-ordered it for £45 lmao
@PuGa_805 ok then open up unity or a game engine and make your own game see where that gets you they give you free models in an editor so you dont have to code anything
Since ive only seen one person mention this; this game feels like it was meant to be a BR from the start, then dice realized BR's where on the way out, so within the last couple months they changed the whole game. This can easily explain why a lot of things are missing, classes are very generic, and the revive system is as bad as it is. I think they wanted it to be a HUGE BR game, but obviously that isnt what the community wants/wanted. I really do want this game to be great, but fuck nothing about it feels right to me. everything feels just so slightly off that it doesnt feel right to me.
It makes too much sense fuck
Trust yourself. They put operators in purley so they can sell more operators and outfits for the operators. So it will be everyone running around as the same person for the games life cycle. Imo 2042 is a money grab. We'll see if im right after it releases.
In bc2, every spot and location was there for a strategic reason.
Here on this beta map it felt so empty
It's a beta dog have you ever played a Battlefield beta game was good
Don't forget that damn plus menu! In general Battlefield, that's one of the most silly things you can put in. Way too one-man-army for BF. But in a BR-like setting, I'd love it!
I started with battlefield 1, one of the greatest games I've played. Battlefield 5 was only fun at the beginning and I don't know what to say about 2042. It's completely different from the other two I've actively played
Same, BF1 finally got me into the series. I tried BF5 for free during a weekend, didn't enjoy it that much and I hear it's crawling with hackers. I finally tried BF4 after BF2042 was revealed, and I'm also having a good time there too. The open beta for 2042 only killed the small amount of righteously cautious hype I had.
@@boat02 I also played Bf4 for some days due to one month free ea play XD. And I had the same experience with the 2042 beta. I only was able to play it about 3 hours but those 3 hours made me asking myself if it's worth a buy
How's BF1 doing? I heard it's full of hackers but that -90% on Steam got me pondering if I should buy it or nah.
@@nezahuall Hey there bruh!
Dice servers sucks. It is indeed full of hackers. I haven't really finished the campain because i wasn't really into bf campain. Its their multiplayer which is fun. Anyway! Mechanics are not complicated. Guns design and sound are awesome. The only thing that might annoy you is the large amount of people camping 🤣 but that's nothing new.
I would recommend you to play in the community server. Search for the ones which many people have marked as thier favourite. I haven't faced cheaters in community server. Its rare to come across one in community server. You will face them if the server admin is shit. 🍻
Edit: i think player base is great. People still play it . check it in the community option
I played a bit of BF3, however, I've only gained interest in the series with BF1, which in my opinion is a spectacular game that I'll never forget, probably since it's the only WW1 game that I've played so far in my life
For what you said about changing attachments and animations, they should do what Tarkov does bring the gun out of your vision making it look like you are doing something to said weapon for all weapons, that would save time and make it more immersive their should be a draw back for changing weapons on the fly even if its 2-3 seconds
The changing attachments shouldn't even be in the game. They replace the communication commands for that crap smh
@@cerromeceo nah it should be and they should add that too on top of that!
@@Cave____ technically it's always been in the game. Just when you choose a class when you respawn back into the game 🤷🏿♂️
@@cerromeceo yeah but the whole point of it is to make it to where you don’t have to die to switch weapons makes sense
@@Cave____ it's doesn't really make a difference. They didn't have to do it
2042 felt super generic. Nothing really new besides the tornadoes and stupid ass specialist system.
B-B-B-But there is the same sprint and slide and even rope to make you climb up building in 5 seconds like in MW !
On a serious note, I really hate the time I had with the beta of 2042, I won't be buying this fucking joke of a game, instead I'll play Enlisted, it costs 80€ less than BF 2042, and it is more similar to Battlefield than Battlefield 2042.
@@kelsiel6147 I canceled my pre order. I was about to pay $97 on it lmao. I'm just gonna wait until it's on Xbox Game Pass Ultimate.
Then again, you’ve only played the beta.
@@dustybunny66 Very bad first impression. The Beta was incredibly lame compared to the Halo Infinite Flight.
@@kelsiel6147 LMAO, man is playing enlisted instead of 2042
This is the vid the devs need to watch, well done. So much to fix.
the devs probably know, it's the people higher-up that want to monetize everything
The devs have already stated that this beta doesn't represent the current build and that the beta is old
@@HashbrownActual Beta is 2 months old build. And their not gonna say "yeah its shit" are they.
@James Lewis Dela Cruz prove that or your words will be shid
He just talks about the generic trend of new games needing some more refinement. Same talk about all new games that come out that are half ass complete.
subscribed solely because of that voice crack hit marker combo at 11:30, brilliant
I used to play COD until it became an arcade game, I have trouble seeing the Sky Blue on the UI because I’m old now, and I agree the vehicles feel like they are made out of really light materiel or something. The float across the ground, and to me the jets feel VERY slow and clunky. Great vid man. 🤠👊🏻🇺🇸
This is by far the most casual battlefield game yet. It’s never been easier to just fire up a match and get into some wild engagements, and yet none of it feels as deep or impactful as before.
It’s one map
@@jon1113 not to mention its an literal beta thats months old, people are acting like the game just released
@@jon1113 it’s not the map stupid it’s the core mechanics literally mentioned in this video
@@wigger4942 I guess we are going to have to wait for launch, like every battlefield I’m expecting a rocky launch but I can see that this game has potential
@@jon1113 it’s already set in stone theyre just ironing out the bugs probably not messing with the core gameplay which I’m being optimistic they somewhat do, right now it’s a watered down experience, still fun but could’ve been on another level easily
Have to say I was disappointed with the beta, as someone who's played every Battlefield since Bad Company it's sad to see it stray so far from it's roots. There are some good feature but the specialists have killed team play, everyone can essentially be a one man army with no class trade off. I fear this is all about money so they can sell new specialists at a premium
there are a lot of good reasons BF is moving in new directions. What do you think a brand new BF player would prefer?
Doesn’t matter what a new bf player would prefer we already have millions of bf players trying to please a new audience will just draw away the old audience.
@@dragonflarexd2866 so you’re basically gatekeeping lol
To be honest, teamplay is dead for a long time by now. There are people willing to do teamplay and most people dont care. Has been the same since bf4
Kinda agree but u have to be careful because without dice trying new things on each game it would just be a copy and paste and we all know how that goes when u look at the cod franchise
In short, beta was very broken and missed a lot of things but we enjoyed it a lot at the same time. Hear the comunity and the game will be perfect
OMG!! I didnt realize how much stuff was missing until you listed it all! those are staple things on that list to be expected in any new battlefield title. This is really a step backwards
All those tools/features you listed being gone really hit hard. Good example of the little things making a game great
They aren’t gone, they just weren’t in the beta. You guys are drama queens
@@johncapslocke6009 Sure some of those things might get included but I doubt all or even a majority will. This game is a disappointment. There's a lot more upsetting stuff other than those things. Nonexistent squad/team play, essentially harmless gimmick tornados, somehow 128 players feel like 24, operators have annihilated any sort of balance with the abilities and the ability to pick any loadout. Armor needs to be immediately removed. There's too much
@@lancelowman5585 people who leaked the code confirmed most of all of this is coming to the full game… and you can’t expect people to play the game like the actual game during a beta, I was mainly goofing around and looking at the featuring on my own, while also checking out the details
@@seanwink2379 We'll see how it is at launch. I've had fun in every other battlefield beta I've played. There's just a lot in this one I personally don't like one bit
I suggest u guys dont buy this, If this game fail they will abandon this like they did to BFV.
"BF Vet" played from 1942 to now. I feel exactly the same, I had enjoyable moments, especially when working as a team, but I also have all of those exact same criticisms. Its sad to see EA use this as a monetization platform, one of my favorite game series of all times reduced to a twitch based money making platform, but at least I can see also that finally someone else gets it.
Same been playing since bf2. I just play games like Squad and Hell Let Loose to get my "Battlefield" experience now. That's where the team work and immersion is for me and the route I had hoped Battlefield would have taken over the years as it feels more matured.
Wrong.
In from the beginning to include 2142 time as well. This looks like battlefield from a far but feels like apex legends and cod had a fetal alcohol baby
It has always been like this, do you want to talk about the absurd amount of dlcs that launched for bf3/4/1? Plus the microctransactions in bf1
@@gebrelius7442 they followed the dreaded game pass concept developed by cod for bf3/bf4 unfortunately. Now a days it does take resources to release new content so I can understand money requirements to fund additions. In so far as bf1, the microtransactions seemed like an off chute focus as the game play still flowed similarly albeit slower with ww1 elements, this game feels absolutely hollow with a ton of framework for monitary farming akin to every new battle royale
You really open my eyes on this game, when I played the beta, it felt off. The operators I dislike, vehicles feel either useless or overpowered, the weapon attachment swap I don’t like, and just pure confusion of who’s who. I hope this game gets fixed and tweaked down the line, sooner rather than later.
7:15 do I hear the Mass Effect 2 galaxy map music playing in the background?
you do
I actually fell under the map once and my character was swimming even though there was no water there. So i can confirm there is a swimming mechanic in this game.
You can swim you just cant swim down or go underwater
Been stuck twice at 2 diff. places (pipes and rocks), lucky you are.
I have actually been somewhere also, might be very underwater (spawn menu).
It seems there was 2 versions of the beta, the good and the bad, so weird.
They have noshar canals so there has to be swimming
Damn man, I wish those rumors of battlefield 3 getting a full blown remake were true. I’m 50/50 on this game. I canceled my preorder and just hope it gets better but I’m not gonna deny it just needs a delay. Insurgency and halo infinite have been the only fps games to not disappoint me
Hey look at it like this, betas in these games have always been dumpsterfires to the umpteenth degree, I bet a month into actual game time and itll be 99% sorted.
Exactly canceled my preorder as well, enjoyed the halo beta and have been liking Insurgency too. Hope it gets better too, I was trying to get away from the royale/warzone feel of FPS games lately.
@@hottuna1773 yeah I feel that haven't canceled mine yet even then if day one is still rough I'll can it and save my money till later otherwise halo is free and other games are floating
INSURGENCY is criminally underrated
@@LowkeyySailor tbh its a good niche game, for it to be more popular it'd have to generalise and suffer the same identity crisis as bf2042/many other games
I’ve been playing Battlefields on console since BC2. I’ve enjoyed them all to varying degrees. My biggest concerns after the 2042 beta are how the specialists are tied to specific skins. Maybe further cosmetic customization will come into play in full release. The specialists seem to replace what used to be the class system. Which doesn’t necessarily bother me but what I loved about the older games was how distinct the classes felt and how useful a good mix was for your squads. The UI definitely needs improvement. I was constantly thrown off by the giant pop-up banner and your combat scoring being moved to the right. Felt the shooting was pretty good but the movement felt like a step back from V. For me the beta seemed to run smoother on subsequent days leading me to think they were tweaking the servers.
Where have i heard the background music of the controversy part before? Sounds so familiar
For me the most important thing Dice needs to address is the specialists been exactly the same in both teams, it's an absolute chaos
In the complete game u can personalize the specialist
@@pierpaolocasarelli9243 Imagine if in a 64 v 64 game, 20 players in your team play as Mackay with a red camo and the enemy team also does that,there is the problem
Chaos*
@@notredboi in BF3 all american Soldier use Assault with black or blue camo
@@pierpaolocasarelli9243 doesn’t matter, you can easily distinguish enemy soldiers based on their character, US marine or RU soldier
Reallllly hoping the score gets moved back to the middle, and I hope the kill notification delay gets fixed. Would be nice to have the option for bfv/1 kill sounds. Much more satisfying. I hate the 3rd person take downs. Hope 1st person becomes an option
There actually is an option for BF1 hit sounds, but the option wasnt working in the beta...
ngl the first person takedowns feel more satisfying than 3rd person ones
I couldn't play the beta but just by looking at the 3rd person takedowns... they just don't feel right
@@thebiggestnoob999 i honestly just punched people to death, never got the chance for a third person takedown in beta. Kinda glad I didnt. Hate the corny stuff cod does with the 3p takedowns. Bfv and bf1 had extremely satisfying takedowns, changing depending on your melee weapon, and if they were laying down. Im hoping once we get melee weapons, cooler takedowns will become available with an optional first person.
@@InZomnia365 that would be awesome, I was thinking imagine the game had a few different kill sounds you could get. Would be cool to be able to customize it
That BFV ping when you got a headshot was amazing lol
I’m very late to the battlefield train. My first bf was bf1 and I loved it. I later went with some friends to play bf4 and had a great time, and I have played 5 and also really enjoyed my time with it.
I’m currently on my last deployment right now before my contract is over. And when I get home I fully plan on upgrading my pc and jumping into 2042
i like how your background music changed to the music that plays when your mining planets in mass effect 2
The saying “if it isn’t broken. Don’t fix it” stands true in bf2042 with the replacement of the class system.
Have heard the next Dungeons and Dragons game is getting rid of the class system? Yeah, me neither because it has worked for decades.
@@Deez-ww4lg yep. Welcome to EA.
Wont be buying the game. No class system so team players will be much harder to find and theyre gonna overly monetize operator skins calling it now. It will be even worse than BF5
@@theblueneko677 bf5 is a good game
I don’t understand why people hate this like I really don’t understand why
The battlefield veterans are from battlefield 4, seeing how healthy the player base is even today. That game wasn’t perfect by any means but it truly shows what a battlefield game should be
BF4? That's new shit. I've been playing since BF1942. However...I agree. BF4 and before...BF1, BFV and this one are the major changers.
@@Dune571 my bad granpa
@@valentinvalet2916 You're forgiven.
Exactly, serious, open warfare, no specialists, just all out medley.
@@Dune571 thank you for your service vet
Nice video bro you mentioned everything whats on my mind D:
I canceled my preorder, this game is far away from that "old school" vibe they sold us in the trailer. Bugs can be fixed, main concept can't.
Yikes if they wanted to take the game in a different direction so be it and be honest about it, don't go calling it a love letter to battlefield when it's clearly not; when clearly your monetization schemes are the forefront of the design decisions made.
Exactly! They know what they were doing with that trailer. That was just one big ploy to draw us and bombard us with micro transactions
"The helicopters and tanks are just as strong as they've ever been..."
Me: "Send in the C4-Wheelers!" 😎
Jeep stuff* wtf
C4-wheelers?? Smh 😔
The tanks in Battlefield 1 and V weren’t that strong, blowing them up was super easy, barely an inconvenience.
Now comes with C4 drones
Congrats with the views. You deserve it the video was absolute gold
Mass Effect background music around 5 min mark? I dig it!
they need to bring back the class system. I get they just want money but why wont they understand they'll get more appealing to the audience that would actually support them giving us what we need.
And the ones that would stay aorund for possible dlcs. I bought all of bf4 dlcs when it was it's time and had a blast on all if them especially maps with specific things about them like the china rising dlcs. But this feels like it will just be buy this and this and this to look better or this for that
They seriously needs to bring the class system back. Abandoning your original audiences for another games audiences is dumb.
Specialists are fine to
I've played every single BF (starting at 1942 when I was basically a baby) people have always had complaints about new eras of the franchise, but 2042 despite being fun just feels like it needs more time. The groundwork of the game feels rushed. If they had another year to work on this, I think everybody would be happy.
I mean, I also had my complaints about every game and every beta. This one.. is just different.
In all of those previous tiles (I own every single one other than Vietnam and Hardline), complaints could generally be limited to movement, TTK, balancing, and the general bug/performance issues. Things that can be fixed with some updating and listening to the community. And in fact, I truly think nearly every one of us can agree that BFV had one of the best movement systems so far. Well, that's gone.. it doesn't even match much of any of the previous titles overall.
2042... man. The "classes" at the top titled Medic and such... those are literally just Call of Duty loadouts. Choose any operator, any guns, and any gadget. The names should just be "Default Loadout 1" at that point. Then you have the plus menu.... the whole point of Battlefield and the classes are that sort of Rock Paper Scissors mechanic. Everyone can technically beat everyone. But as a team moves up, different roles and weapons/attachments shine depending on the map and location. Now.. everyone can just be everything at once. Then you have the way vehicles take a backseat to infantry play, but that very well could be fixable.. but my faith is low because of everything else. And of course, specialists. I was willing to just let them slide. Just deal with it. That was my compromise. I get it. But the third person takedowns... the hero perks... why couldn't a system similar to BFV be put into place? Its literally just the skin part that makes money. Instead, we're also creeping into RB6 territory and totally shifting focus again.
I'd really just like to see a proper Battlefield game take the best of all the previous titles and build on it instead of moving in a new, lesser/dumbed down, direction just to capitalize on the MTX craze and pull a new audience in. The audience has already been overlapped. CoD and Battlefield were two distinctly different shooters and people played them based on what kind of action they wanted. Now its just so damn similar, what's the point?
I'm desperate for this game to make changes and return to the roots because I just know if it doesn't, Battlefield as we know it is dead and the new audience has taken over.
Nah I don't think time is the issue with the removal of the classes.
@@v3nom11065 unrelated but Hardline has a sick campaign, u should give it a go I feel like it's underrated in the US but ppl in the UK still love it.
Yeah fuck no ,they would bring classes back and lock gadgets to classes . No thank you
The approximate cost of video game productions is about 10,000 per person per month the game is in development. Aka, a year of development would cost over 100,000,000, usd, in full staff. Rolling off staff and you still face over 35-70mil in costs. It sounds lovely, but practically speaking it just can’t and won’t happen, especially after Cyberpunk 2077. They delayed for AGES and the bugs, performance, and such weren’t any better
1:32 Does anyone know the name of the background music?
Stickerbrush Symphony
Anyone else heard the Mass Effect background music? 05:20
Honestly this is exactly how i feel about the game 100% perfect summary
The game is very good. What didn't you like?
@@gamer4ever838 the video summons everything
Best review I've seen so far. Everything you said was pretty valid. You didn't play to one side excellent.
For me this game is TOO COD leaning. I want to feel immersed. I did not feel that in the beta. I did not feel like I was in WAR.
I feel this is a game u play have fun with and after a year or 100 hours u wont play it anymore because it won't offer you anything different than other Shooters (no community or teamplay)
So your more a bf1 fan
@@-jc8578 y’all play one game mode on one map on an unfinished beta and judge an entire game around it go ahead don’t play no one wants u to play anyway
Respectfully, BF fans said the same thing with BF1 and especially BF5, that it feels like CoD. And look at the comments on YT and reddit. People are praising those two titles now and want elements from those games to be incorporated in 2042. BF3 and especially BF4 had terrible launches but Dice/EA addressed most of the issues and the games are very fun to play. I'm hoping and optimistic that 2142 will be the same.
@@stallman30 Yea, but I have never said that. I actually enjoyed 1 and 5, 4 was cool. Even bad company is better than this hot garbage.
You have a nice measured approach to your videos.
I guess I’ll be playing BF1 some more
Ah, finally, I’ve found the reasonable take
That repair tool thing upset me too. I want to run around with a repair tool/ defibrillator and kill people with it while carrying my rocket launcher or medkit/ammo box. Its really dumb that the defibrillator has become an animation instead of a gadget you carry around and zap people to death with.
I miss the class systems most of all, besides the bionic commando grappling hook I feel everything else is fine. I've grown up playing both battlefield and call of duty, learning to appreciate both for their differences. In my honest opinion this years battlefield definitely feels like they copied a lot from warzone, especially being able to reopen parachutes.
You could reopen parachutes in battlefield 4……..
@@wiley9883 Go try it right now 😂
You could open your shoots in both battlefield 3 & 4
This is nothing new from them.
@@wiley9883 couldn't voluntarily cut the rope, freefall, then reopen another one. It literally is warzone.
@@silentcaldari7594 No you can not open a parachute, close it, and reopen it in bf4. All of you claiming you can are blatantly proving just how little you know about the battlefield franchise.
I love the detail in min 11:29, the hit mark in the MIC killed me lol
That background music was oblivion at one Point!
Gotta love having 100 Mackays in the same match. Everyone running around looking exactly the same.
they did what we wanted they made everyone look the same but not in the way we wanted you know default soldier attire no they went apex mode
@@elko1860 they didnt
Worst decision, removing the classes. Lets hope we get decent customization, so we don't see 100 identical specialist in final release.
If you look back at BF1 and BF5 the soldiers uniform at least was easy to differentiate between enemy and friendly
I think BF has ALOT of customizability they aren’t sharing yet. Well I hope anyways 🤞
I have a great connection and played on PS5. The performance was definitely not great. But as you say, it's a beta and they're not known for their stellar performance.
Though there may be a lot of hate going on (it's the internet, so), I'd say criticism and hate are not the same and I've seen far more criticism from big fans of the series that want good games. I enjoyed aspects and I've no doubt we'll get a great game. But the issues with the specialists, gadgets and classes are real. The vision presented in the beta for these things isn't good enough for Battlefield and without really knowing where that will go, it's pretty understandable that people are freaking out a bit.
Well said.
@@diehardGG thanks, I do my best comments while taking a poop.
@@bobby_c07 that's the best time to literally do anything, so I understand
@@bobby_c07 ahh, so that's where I've been messing up when I comment in Reddit threads lol.
You can always cancel your BF2042 preorder. It helps let DICE know they did things wrong and also you get your money back... Win Win!!
I pre ordered ultimate edition and was looking forward to having the extra hands on time with the beta but my wifi went out the day before and I just got it back today, feels bad
I agree with all your points.
I was only able to play 1 game of the Beta, but manage to try most things.
My biggest gripe was with Vehicles, they felt weird to drive.
Just gonna say
"Specialist"
Implies that they posess a special ability that makes them a unique and powerful asset.
It no longer applies when everyone is a specialist.
It's like a participation trophy.
So... it's like being a specialist in the real Army? Kinda realistic lol.
If everyone was a sentry in bf1 basically
@@noneofyourbusiness9489 not all soldiers in the real army are specialists either. Spec Ops constitute only like 2% of the fighting forces. Extrapolate that number to Battlefield lobby and that'd mean like 2-3 specialists while the rest are common soldiers, lol.
@@noneofyourbusiness9489 being a specialist is realistic, yes, but clones aren't. They should've given these specialists just a callsign instead of individual names, ethicity, nationality, etc. And two separate trees of cosmetics so that it is easy to identify what team they are on.
@@zippyparakeet1074 I think you misunderstood wat I meant. The most common rank in the US Army is specialist. Specialist is an automatic promotion based on time in rank and time in service. It pretty much is a participation trophy. Source: I am one.
“When you try to make a server feel
Alive with brain dead bots, it’s worse than just having less players in a game.”
-You might wanna check Halo Infinite.
bot in infinite: "aight, leave it to me"
I'm still looking for my marker in Narnia....
Or wait another year for modern warfare 2022 cus that leaked
All I see is praise for Halo Infinite but I kinda disagree...
@@malazan6004 nah, it's allright, it's only that.... We finally got the Game we always wanted, so we are happy 4 it
Still think Battlefield 2 is the bread and butter of the series. Literally every game after Bad Company 2 has been just reskins of that formula to me.
Whats it like because i've only played BF1
@@justasimplemanworkinghiswa1569 if I'm not mistaken it's when they added smashable buildings and big armor and such and I think conquest
I was never into bc2 but bf3 I fell in love with
Loved bad company 2 best game in the series
I'm a MW player. I haven't played Battlefield since 2. I had 32 hours in 2042 during the demo. I really enjoyed it too, but agree with all the issues you listed. I do think the lack of a map issue will be resolved by the release.
Battlefield 1 is one of the best FPS I've ever played.
I liked the old scoring system when, even when you didn't see the K/D on the scoreboard. Made people focus more on objectives. I saw that the new scoreboard only has K/D. It's going to promote camping and just running and gunning instead of playing objectives and healing/giving ammo and stuff. I still play BF3 to this day. It's perfect, I love it so much.
Is BF3 still active on PC? I miss it so much.
If I pre order the game today do I get the Beta?
Here is my 2cp. My background started with Goldeneye oh great grandad, Sof2, Tribes, Halo then Cod/BF/Apex/Ring/pubg etc. BF2 in all it's glory the best. I also loved BF3/4. The beta had no teamwork happening, I never got rezzed once. I
" imagine having to model all the animations and attactment that exsists""
"Tarkov/battlestate- Yes we do this."
not to mention with a fraction of EA's budget. It sucks to see even with all the money EA is making RN they want to push out another super monetizable game instead of giving the true fan base what they want... a well thought out modern shooter...
facts
They also have like what, less than 70 devs compared to 4 studios working on BF2042 lol, sad and hilarious at the same time
There’s a ton of great battlefield-type games now. Squad, Hell Let Loose, Post Scriptum. If you’re not feeling battlefield, those all offer great tactical, combined arms gameplay.
Squad, insurgency
Hell Let Loose is awesome. I ended up playing that game more than the bf beta last weekend.
I’d agree, don’t forget insurgency ha, that’s also on console if u don’t like pc gaming along with hell let loose
Love all of those games I haven't touched battlefield since battlefield 1.
Those games are nothing like the battlefield games we’ve played
I’ve been playing since 4 and I’ve had a blast with the beta c4 plus the grapple goo was amazing and I agree with everything you said I’m still holding out hope release will be sick
The compass/bearings indicator is missing and the large, tactical map "M key" is missing. My repeated instinct to check the map for situational awareness is useless now.
Nothing like having a bunch of kids sliding around corners immediately clapping you with broken hip fire. Call Of Duty 2042 is an embarrassment.
That's a skill issue not a game issue. Your problem
@@Xo-Yanga It’s a game problem as anyone can do it. I’ve been on 20+ killstreaks in the beta by exploiting all the Call Of Doo Doo movements that have been implemented into the game.
I only played the beta for a few minutes and i know its only beta but felt nothin like battlefield.. like a bad warzone attempt with battlefield mix..
@@cobra1995xx Yessir
@@warlordop713 how is it a game problem if people have shit aim and can't kill you? It sounds like you're lying and you're the one getting shit on and need people to have no movement mechanics just to kill them.
People like you are why game series become stale and die out. You sound like the Halo fans who got all pissy about vaulting being added. As if more fluid movement is somehow a bad thing.
Sorry no one wants the same exact game copy and pasted again. God forbid DICE does literally anything to modernize the games mechanics. Shouldve just made Battlefield 4 remastered I guess.
Did you put elders scrolls music in the background?
Totally of topic, but just now I noticed the oblivion soundtrack in the video lol
its good stuff
this game needs the old class system, no bots, more destruction and smaller maps .... this would be my real BF ---- by the way.... top video (like)
Yeah the destruction was messing, and the classes.
Go cry and play cod kid
@@AtteNisula what?
@@AtteNisula agree
Bots needs to stay as an option in some mode in my opinion. Sometimes you just want to play for fun, not just win and be your best.
I dont necessarily understand how the specialist system is easier to monetize. I personally always wanted the option to customize my player model in mil-sim gear for years piece by piece lol.
Interchangeable pieces of gear would be sick. Instead of specific characters, you should just get a random face, which wouldn't matter because everyone would be wearing a mask/helmet.
Long explanation:
The original live service game was Team Fortress 2. The game had 9 memorable and still beloved characters, so when the cosmetics grew people wanted to customize these characters. Its still insanely lucrative.
Fast forward a few years and live service games have become far more popular. Games like Overwatch, R6, and Bo4 try to emulate the tf2 formula in some way w/ the following formula
1) have a long list of characters. Whales will want a skin for each so the more the better.
2) each character has a name, personality, and a unique nationality to get people "attached" to them.
3) each character has, or appears to have, a distinct playstyle to encourage playing all of them, getting attached, and wanting skins
Its not just a large character roster but this specific formula with some variation. Its why all the "hero games" have such a similar roster. The difference here is that, while TF2 was made with the intention of well written, fun to play characters, these games are checking off a list to make money, which is what makes it feel soulless.
Well easy, there's only 4 classes in usual BF games. Here we will have a good number of differents specialistes. I think we know about 6 so far, and more to come.
From the looks of it, they will be adding new specialists to the game that you have to pay for in order to use. From the official Steam page:
The Battlefield™ 2042 Gold Edition contains:
Early access to game launch
Year 1 Pass: 4 New Specialists (1 per Season), 4 Battle Passes (1 per Season), and 3 Epic Skin Bundles (”Blistered Earth”, ”Tempest”, and ”Cold Blood”)
How long have you played Battlefield?
Having played the OG 2042, that was so much fun. 1943 was an underrated little arcade like game with 2 maps and 3 classes.
Well said man. I also saw a content creator comparing beta 2042 with a full released bf4 gameplay. 😅😅😅
"Don't play 2042, Play one of the other battlefields that you love" Some people don't wanna play WW1 & 2 games anymore with limited weapon and vehicle customization. Or what about the fact that when new BFs come out, the previous title just turns into a graveyard of half full servers.
Exactly on point... That's just bullshit I just can't play BF 4 hardcore server because it's inexistent. There is no bots.
@@atrgames i was on a full b4 hardcore server around 1 hour ago even before bf 2042 was announced there was full servers game still is very much alive and i think it will continue to thrive especially if 2042 flops
@@haroldledbitter177 not OC
@@haroldledbitter177 it wont flop. the reaction has been beyond ridiculous.
@@atrgames Battlefield 1 is alive and well and will outlast BF5. I play daily and will probably continue to play years from now.
I was rather concerned about the specialists system from the very start, because it meant odd looking character clones all over the place, and imbalanced talents and gadgets, which would mean support would be virtually nonexistent bc most wouldn't play as support specialists.
On top of that, the restrictions that were made by classes in previous Battlefield games made ways for various players' skill sets (from maining specific classes) to orchestrate for good teamwork. This is obviously not the case for Battefield 2042.
The system just felt extremely wacky and out of place for a game like Battlefield from the very start.
Just want to say, I haven't played it yet, but yeah this is what I think about it.
As someone who played the beta for at least 15 hours, i shot my teammates more often then the enemies themselves lol
yes there was such a lack of support roles and medics that it wasnt remotely fun to play, shit i even had countless teammates just walk by me and not even bother to revive me.
same can go for people not dropping med crates or ammo crates and found myself being the only one in my squad that ran ammo crate out of the entire team.
as of right now there's a "one man army" mentally because of warzone... if youre not winning 1v3's or 1v4's or getting quad feeds then you suck... everyone was playing for themselves and not as a team..
Counter point: The class system hasn't been meaningful since BF2, might aswell get rid of it altogether for something new and interesting rather than than clinging "to the past" even though "the past" everyone is clinging to is already a watered down version of how the classes were originally designed. I doubt BF2042's new system is anything to lose sleep over, you will still be able to design your own stereotypical classes of ye olde days.
The only thing i worry about is like you said, everyone looking the same.
@@zwykhg364 counter to counter: The class based system is an old system but it could of easily been updated to fit in with the modern mechanics & more sustainable gadgets could be added to fit those roles. BF has always separate itself because of this class based system to balance out playstyles. What's happening now is that anyone and everyone can carry anything which results in less cooperation as a whole team and is why I lost more matches when we were ahead. No one is playing objective because the point system rewards you more for getting kills instead of capturing and defending the flags. Instead you have people playing TDM on B & D1 & 2 capture points.
@@angelcortez4689 They should absolutely insentivize teamwork more than kills, and give more score for capping, reviving etc. They might aswell hide kills until the match is done like some games do. And make you able to differentiate friend and enemies (besides HUD), ofcourse.
But i don't think the specialist system is that bad. You can't do everything as one person besides maybe the medic specialist letting you heal while having another gadget. You still need someone with AT, someone with AA, someone with ammo, someone with repair tool etc. But they are able to choose an interesting character that they like with the weapon they like. Back in BF2 an engineer was restricted to shotguns, a wrench and AT mines, but in BF4 they weren't really restricted that much, might aswell remove the limits altogether, they were an do-it-all repair and destroy tank class with powerful automatic weapons to boot, where you had the engineer and AT class as 2 distinct classes with limited main weapons & tools in BF2. Whats so different really, comparing BF3/4 to BF2042? Just superficial aesthethic differences with a minor impact on gameplay.
You still need to play as the medic chick if you want to revive anyone besides ur squadmates for that matter.
It's not all doom and gloom.
I’ll just stick to BF4
I like your fair points. New sub
Another thing that the act man touched up on was also the target acquisition, except with weapons. What I mean by this is in previous games certain weapons and gadgets were locked behind specific classes. Like the rpg would be in engineer and the med kit would be obviously with the medic. But in 2042 a guy with a ghillie suit could have an rpg, or a guy without a ghillie suit could have a sniper. That’s something as well that I think should be in the game.