Prey (Dead Meat Podcast Ep. 172)
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
- Chelsea and James are joined by friend of the show Joey Clift to talk the newest installment in the Predator franchise, Prey!
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MUSIC!! "U Make Me Feel" by MK2
The fur trappers needing to slowly reload after firing 4 shots was the funniest gag in a horror movie I've seen in a while.
So glad someone said this that was hilarious like. I also don’t believe they mentioned the fact that they 100% had the best chance to win in that moment knowing bullets to the skull can kill. They literally were just meatheads though and didn’t think it through. They tried to capture it like what?
That’s probably the funniest bit in a Predator film I’ve ever seen.
When do you think James will do a kill count
@@patrickbrisson1 I would say relatively soon since it’s available on streaming.
Prey for me would be better than the first film, if they didn’t include the pistol, they should of saved it for a later film where they could give the name on it meaning instead of leaving it as a disgrace.
I loved the little things they did with this movie to emphasise the themes of predators and prey. Naru goes out in her Comanche war paint to track and hunt a predator, unaware that it’s THE predator that she’s hunting. Once she encounters the species that is higher on the food train than her, she is washed down river, washing off her war paint. She’s now the prey, not the hunter. Very cool 😌
How she hided her body heat.That was awesome.
@@mitchellpurdy470 hell yeah, was definitely a movie that favoured the returning viewers of the predator series. The dead meat honeys are correct though, not a movie you need to have seen the previous films to understand the narrative
And at the end when she's defeated the Predator, it's blood is now her war paint.
@@connorkirisaki5761 didn't see the previous ones, and i enjoyed it!
i noticed that too and thought wow this is amazing
The dog doesn't die either! So 10/10 movie
This comment needs mote upvotes
I made a comment on Twitter a few days ago that I love when horror properties don't kill the pets. That always distresses me. Like in Drag Me to Hell and I Am Legend.
That poor wolf though :(
@@loki1456 The website "Does the dog die?" Is so good about this, they have other additions like "Does X happen" but I'm so happy it exists bc same
I do like how the only reason Naru was able to kill the Predator was because she was the only one who tried to outsmart it and not go toe to toe.
That's something I always loved about Predator in general. Protagonists usually win thanks to their smarts while all the brutes get killed off easily
Kinda spoiling it for the people that haven't watched it
@@warnersepticeye if they’re watching an entire podcast about a movie they haven’t seen, they deserve spoilers
@@warnersepticeye this isn't a spoiler free podcast...
True my bad
as someone with native american heritage, i think it's fuckin awesome that there can be big budget movies now that have a mostly native cast and are done in a respectful and not racist way.
too bad they didn't make it full Gibson style with Indian language use by the tribe. It's just ridicolous to have French speak French for sake of it while Comanche used English with native throwbacks.
@@lxdead5585 if you watch the episode they mention there is literally a Comanche Dub.
@@lxdead5585 “Indian language” 💀 dude I hope ur native
@@rowanw1312 Great, another person getting offended by words. He is literally defending the use of the native language and you still find something to complain about.
@@lukeprimo4672 “the native language” dude there’s way more than just one 💀💀💀
My understanding of the director's comment was that this was *this* predator's first hunt on Earth, sort of as a foil to it being Naru's first hunt. Because there is stuff in the lore that hints that the predators do sometimes return to Earth, but this was this specific predator's first time.
totally missed this comment and made the same correction, without the Naru connection though...
glad that someone else payed attention to the making of details.
Still You know this cuz director stated that. For someone who will just watch movie it's simply dumb movie, it has shitload of writing problems e.g Predator handling fucking grizzly bear with bare hands but having problem to overpower tiny girl.
Being smart enough to avoid trappers traps just to get caught easily. Magic plant that turn blood temperature by something over 10-15 Celsius degree within a minute.
IDK why only second movie was able to get Predator mandibles right. Predators was close but Black's The Predator and Prey designs were awful.
@@lxdead5585 I disagree, but you do you dude. Movie was fun, well directed, well acted, and brought the series back to its roots in a lot of ways I think. I thought the writing was on par if not better than the rest of the series.
This is correct. It was advertised as the species first hunt but the director clarified it's only Feral's first hunt on earth.
@@ShaggyHair76 It was only better than The Predator from 2018 and TBH it wasn't huge accomplishment. Well directed? K
Fun? Debatable. Back to it's roots? LMAO NOPE. And if You think that writing was on par with first Predator You must be deluded. There is too many too big logical errors and main "protagonist" was just irritating e.g scene in the woods where she acted like a spoiled child leading to Predator killing her own men lmao.
I can understand Your movie, each of us have it's own taste, but objectively speaking this movie was "fine" at best.
As a North African, I'm actually really happy to be living in an era where I can watch a movie about a culture that I'm unfamiliar with (except through the lens of media) and not worry that it's all stereotypes and racism, people can call it woke trash as much as they want, but Joey saying that now people all around the world can see a movie in a native American language really made me smile
That is a very good point I hadn’t considered before! To go from the 50’s or 60’s where Cowboy Westerns with their inaccurate depictions was all that was available especially outside the US and Canada, to there being big budget movies that have some real connections to the culture that the world can enjoy together. That makes me like this movie more now
Agreed! The world is such a big place with so many different, beautiful types of people, why limit our films to just one specific group or location?
Except for the French fur traders, they are still stereotypes and characatures.
@@JBoxy7 agreed, still glad the indigenous characters weren't. the movie would've better if the trappers hadn't been ridiculously stupid but eh, win some, lose some
@@jeremigagnon-larocque8725 good movie, not perfect.
This movie did “if it bleeds, we can kill it” SOOOOO well.
Except for the fact that her brother never saw the blood or even knows if it can bleed
But no "get to tha teepeee!!!" In an arnold voice.
The only flaw is how they didn't see the predator's blood before saying it. Kind of lessens the context.
@@GEARՏ naru did early on. a little before the wolf kill she spotted a leaf or rock that had predator blood on it. but it was the brother who said that and HE never saw it before that i believe so ur view still stands
@@bloodyyszn But I thought she told her brother she saw it bleeding. I could be wrong, but I could have sworn she told him and that's why he said that.
It’d be dope seeing the Predator set in different eras… Like having him fight the Samurai, the Zulu, the Spartans, the Aztecs, the Vikings… Possibilities are endless!
I think this was supposed to be the Predator's first encounter with humanity, so hopefully they will retcon themselves so we can get those movies.
@@shillis1606 I think it wasn’t the Yautja species’ first encounter per se, but THIS Predator’s, Feral’s, I mean.
Hell, I could see someone making a long form animated series of just Predators running into different tribes. Like, maybe the feral predators are their own Yautja subculture and they note that one of their own got lost on earth. And every episode can have VA cast and production crew of different tribes based on who the focus of the episode is.
@@melkor0626 Exactly!
I'm so glad that Prey did something I always wanted a horror property that establishes that their villain has been around for thousands of years to do: have a story set in the past and focus on how the people of the past deal with it.
its so cool I'm in love
It’s been an established thing long before prey. Just fucking watch shit or even google it bro
@@OhWowThatsDumb Or maybe you should stop expecting everyone to have seen or know of the same horror movies you, and let them be excited for something they've wanted but never seen. Also, not everyone immediately thinks to Google something when it crosses their mind, especially when it's this specific. I sure as heck don't.
@@OhWowThatsDumb read it again, the comment says that its cool how the movie shows how past civilizations survived the threat, they ARENT saying how the movie itself stablishes that the preds have been around since the dawn of mankind
@@OhWowThatsDumb im sorry? what i was saying is that im glad that they made a movie based off of that established info??
this reply is so needlessly hostile to a poorly worded comment no wonder why people call horror/nerd spaces hostile
Was literally waiting a whole week for this to drop and eventually the subsequent Kill Count
I figuratively waited a whole week.
i theoretically waited a whole week.
I approximately waited a whole week
I hypothetically waited a whole week.
I anticipated waited a whole weak
Every time the Predator takes life threatening damage: “Tis but a scratch!”
Even said”. Damn I liked that arm too”
You can just say you don’t know how predators work
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You can just say you don’t know how jokes work
@@Milk_with_chunks your joke is that you don’t know how predators work? 😂😂 you’re complaining that the living tank alien survived shit but aren’t upset about the woman surviving getting slammed and beaten by a creature that can kill a bear by punching it
"Prey" just became one of the best films I've watched this year (probably top 3 in horror), it's a shame that it premiered on Hulu, this definitely deserve to be released in theaters because it's incredibly well done.
Which other movies did you enjoy this year? I'm trying to add some new good movies on my list.
agreed
It's also on Disney+
@@joke_0 Everything Everywhere All at Once is probably the film of the year imo
@@joke_0 The best movie of the year is Everything, Everywhere All At Once, One of the best movies in the last 5 years.
Found out that the director was also influenced by God of War 2018 worth the weapon selection. Specifically with the rope hatchet and shield the predator uses. Pretty fucking cool
i literally JUST had the thought about the shield being exactly like Kratos' mid podcast. That's wild.
Dan’s a huge nerd, his first huge movie was a Portal short film.
I thought of that with the ax and I thought Percy Jackson for the shield cause I didn’t know Kratos had a shield
It probably didn’t help I’ve been playing 2018 recently, but that was MY FIRST THOUGHT when that shield got whipped out.
@@JTGallant I fucking knew it! I knew it the very moment I saw him bring that shield out. The way it popped open was exactly how the shield pops out in God of War when Kratos nails a block/parry.
I love how much passion and care went into this movie. Especially when you consider someone could've easily said "it's a Predator movie in a unique setting, it'll make money anyway" and rush the project.
I liked how the predator moved quick and decisively when he fought the traders. Like I just feel like the other movies either had a rubber hand feel or were to big to be fast but the feral one felt like a martial artist just moving thru the fight so fluidly.
Yea this Predator's fighting style was dope as hell.
The Preys Predator action was very John Wick to me. it's choreographed but very efficient in execution. it's planned but seems improvised which is a mark of a good fight scene
It definitely helps that his weapons cut through them like a lightsaber through butter!
Until he decided he now fights the girl like an absolute idiot. I think the only explanation for this movie is the other predators thought it’s a funny joke to send their dumbest clan member to earth
@@gggallin8279 he fought her like the rest. She was prepared. She cloaked herself, she blew off his mask, she placed traps, she focused on her speed, and she used the Preds own lethal weapons against it.
the main character first recognized the predators ship as the Thunderbird, not actually a previous predator
Which I loved because not only was it otherwordly but she attributed it to the only thing her beliefs could possibly view it as.
I would love a predator recount with James learning more lore about the Yautja, all leading up to a Prey killcount
I watched PREY with friends and as soon as she fell into the mud I shouted "CHEKHOV'S BOG!!!" and the amount of validation I got when she dragged the yautja into it for her trap was incredible. Also, in spite of noticing she took the helm for something, I still didn't figure her plan out until it was happening because Naru is apparently much smarter than me. Incredible movie. Also if anyone hasn't done so, I highly recommend watching the Comanche dub, it's awesome.
There is a Comanche dub?! Via hulu?
@@renriquez1994 Yup! It's not in the language settings though, it's a seperate tab on the front page for the movie.
Dude, seeing the movie just in Comanche is like what I wanted the whole time I was watching
Does the dub actually add to the movie or is it just for a more inversive experience?
@@kjl4983 Idk if I would consider that it adds something specifically, but I thought it was really cool! Definitely feels more immersive
I always felt like Bone Tomahawk would have worked better if the villains were colonists who'd went nuts and turned into insular cannibals. Cleanly sidestep the evil native issue and turn it into a commentary on stuff like the Donner Party.
That'd've worked better for me I think
That would be really cool.
@@DeadMeat the ending credits was actually done by nocona burgess not kaz kipp kaz was the coordinator, my uncle went to school with nocona who is an native artist, my uncle isint native and neither am I, also the movie takes place in Lawton Oklahoma not far from where I live which is central high, Marlow , Lawton is like a 20 minute drive from my house.
worst part about it is that Mi'kmaq in the Canadian Maritimes would actually fashion there weapon out of bone specifically moose. until French Acadians started trading steel weapons for furs with them hence why they are known has " fur traders" yes French traders got very well along with native American unlike what the revenant and this movie will have you believe. in Canada the only province there is no first nation reservation is newfoundland a place settled by British and Scottish. Irish did not immigrate to newfoundland until the 1800's when a catholic church was built on the province..... just to paint a picture of the last Beothuk native American died in Saint-John in the 1800 in otherworld's genocide this was after deportation of the Acadians to Louisiana in 1755. so, you can reach your own conclusion on who had better relations with Native American.
I think part of the brilliance of the first Predator is that the movie does successfully frame Arnold as a final girl. I think of the shot with the predator holding him up by the neck. It's also why the predator is 7 feet tall in that movie. How else do you make arnold look so tiny at moments? Half Commando, Half slasher, all Vietnam allegory. :)
Yeah, thats why it annoys me when people say Naru is too small to fight a Predator - that was always the point! Arnie and his team were built like Greek Gods and armed to the teeth - it still counted for nothing against the Predator. Guile, quick thinking and attentiveness are your only hopes against them, not brawn.
@@BenEd2 Dutch's team was packing a megaton of testosterone, enough lead to cut down the Amazon but in the end, Dutch had to use mud and sticks and stones to kill the Predator. Along with luck and cunning. Prey uses the same tropes in a new setting.
Totally agree and I love prey but predator is just so much better the cast was amazing and when each of them died you had a feeling for them especially when Dillon gets his arm blown off but is helpless and has to wait on the predator killing him whilst he still fires. We built a connection to the mercenaries. Billy cutting his chest to challenge the predator in order to buy the others time a female who was perceived at first as though she'd do anything to get them killed becoming a character that was so vital and you love by the end and Arnold's whole creative plan to take down the predator as he also learns it cant see him in the mud and he lures it in to his trap and we get the most iconic ending of all the predator movies with the self destruct. I get the hype behind prey its a great movie great story but the supporting actors are awful apart from her brother as we really don't get any incline to care about the characters the way we do in predator like when Blain dies and mac is distraught but it affects his decision making and he just wants to kill the predator any way possible and we get behind him with the hate he has for the creature but then mac dies and we feel for him although we knew it was coming and then poncho being carried by Arnold and anna but then he gets killed when we were hoping he'd live after the amount of damage he'd suffered that was non gory. The one thing I will say I love about prey is the idealism of the technology but I hate the predators face and think they may have fucked up with the overall design of the predator id of preferred if they kept to the original design or went with one of the various designs that we see in the movie predators which was another movie that I preferred to prey and I feel it gets a lot of unnecessary hate. Prey was great it is the first time that the predator has traveled to earth in live action so far. There will be more set before this 100% as predators is cannon and there's a lot of easter eggs there that are very suggestive to what we've just received and could be in for. I just hope they take their time as this movie is definitely in the top 3 of the franchise my ranking is now predator predators and prey. Predator 2 is more of nostalgia and not the greatest of films and the predator was awful AVP 1 was interesting but again was more of a nostalgia trip and requiem well the less said about that the better. Prey is great they utilise this new but similar feeling setting with a great lead role and the growth of both the lead character and the predator in this film is great to see
To clarify, it’s THIS specific Predator’s first time on Earth. Not the species as a whole.
True! Which is why it got cocky as the story went on. Which led to it's downfall.
Really? Who told You that, director, screenwriters? Cuz You DON'T have this information from the movie.
@@lxdead5585 The director clarified this, and also we have seen yautja in egypt lmao.
@@Pred. thank You for proving my point. Someone who don't give a single F about searching and looking for more data - ergo majority, typical viewers - won't be able to get that info from movie cuz it's not stated anywhere xDD
Where have You seen Yautja in Egypt,son?
You mean that AvP flashback? xDD
Of the temple on Antarctica? xDDD
Watch movie with more understanding.
@@Unaliq nah, it's not that, it's just dumb writing lmao
screenplay was just mediocre
predator that can handle grizzly bear with it's bear hands, beating shit out of it and picking it up like it's piece of paper get his ass kicked in close combat by some tiny chick
kk xDDD
same pred that was able to see, and knew very well the traps, yet got caught like an idiot
sorry bro, but even few beers wouldn't make me dumb to level of ignoring such idiotic writing errors.
I won't even bring damn French speaking French and Comanche speaking English with native throwbacks xDD
I can understand that fans are happy movie was better then 2018 The Predator but it's not something that was hard to achieve.
Fan made movies about Predator hunting people in the forest in medieval times, and the other one about American and Japanese soldiers joining forces to defend themself from Predator hunting both sides is still light years above Prey, and that says something.
This movie was not woke trash. It’s sad to see people label it as such. It was actually quite good.
For me it goes both ways, there are people wrongly calling it woke trash, and at the other end of the scale, you have people calling it a masterpiece, and the best of all the Predator films.... both for me are ridiculous statements.
It's a 6.5/10 film for me, just above average, and enjoyable, but the issues it has just stops it being amazing.
Internet people just says "woke trash" to everything... they don't enjoy movies, series and any art...
@@mattthrower6381 well contrary to popular believe, movies are totally subjective. You don't have to like a well made movie, just as you don't have to dislike a poorly made one.
You give it a 6,5 and call it just above average while someone else gives it a 10 and calls it a masterpiece. Neither of you are wrong.
@@TheHalloweenSpirit this movie ain’t woke trash but a woke okay movie lol
>uses woke as argument
Her war cry at the end after defeating the Predator is so cathartic and badass. Chills.. It’s on par in its own way with Arnold’s war cry in the OG.
Its not even close to Arnold's roar .....
Yeah you could see a strong mix of emotions in her face right afterwards. Gave me goosebumps
@@steven6979 Nostalgia blind?
@@steven6979 I said in its own way..they are totally different but meaningful and badass in each movie. Chill bro I know he’s got more bass in it.
@@kyellverdonschot9922 you’re trying to compare mr universe to a no name actress nobody gives a fuck about
38:00 " I ship it" I DO TOO CHELSEA!!!
So glad to see an indigenous person give their perspective of this Native American film, instead of another angry white man talking about the female protagonist and nothing else.
Listen, I love the representation aspect of Prey. Seeing all the middle aged men be upset at a native woman fighting a Predator was a better watch than The Predator. But I do want to hear about the movie’s story and character at some point 😂 hyped for this kill count though
Those middle aged men are outrage merchant CZcamsrs and their whining community.
So are you open to valid or differential criticism of the film or do you just write off all negative view points as "upset middle aged men"?
@@salerac6496 if the criticism goes "there's no way a skinny woman can beat a predator" or "this is woke trash because the woman survives and all men die" then it's probably upset middle aged men.
@@mohammadsaleem5990 Funny. My sister would disagree with you. I actually enjoyed the movie for the most part. I found some of the convenience to be a bit meh. Like the positioning of the helmet at the end just happened to be pointing where the pred was standing. And the close hand to hand stuff at the end. Even Arnie wasnt able to handle a pred that up close. I couldnt care less who lives and dies. I also wasnt a fan of the lack of consistency with the predators honor code. He let her live when she was injured and unarmed yet killed several others that were the same.
@@salerac6496 She positioned the helmet in the spot where the mud sinks deep. That wasn't a convenience. Granted the feral should probably know how his own tech works, so I did dock it a point for that.
21:45 That's why I stopped being thankful with James or James and Chelsea and started to thanks all the Dead meat team. Being here before James quits his editor job (what a brave leap to the unkown), but l understand that Dead meat is a whole team of people that really care about their job. So, again, thank you all the team for the amazing job you do on the channel!
I've read that they kind of rolled back those statements about this being the first time the Predator species coming to Earth, and rather they changed it so it's the first hunt that specific predator in the film had on Earth, which I think is great because it opens up possibilities for other Predator films to take place in other time periods.
Predator vs dinosaurs
Coming 2069
@@aidenmb7932 the REAL end to the dinosaurs
@@aidenmb7932 DINOSAUWS vs THE PREDATAWRS would be badass
I’d love to see Preds go up against Vikings, Samurai, monks, you name it
PREY KILL COUNT PLEASE!!!
Your wish is granted
You little bugger beggin him for your movie you silly billy
yo this is the guy who plays the predator in the 2022 movie
Naru is has become one of my top 10 final girls of all time. I hope we see Amber Midthunder in more movies especially horror cause she absolutely killed it and the Predator
In my opinion she became one of the fucking worst final girls by the end. Name any single final girl who goes their entire movie without being even slightly hurt at all
@@OhWowThatsDumb Comanche Sue
@@OhWowThatsDumb I counted three head injuries, a bear trap injury, getting beaten up and a bunch of times where she got very nearly killed. Plus getting tossed around and slammed to the ground in the final fight.
Did you spend the movie playing around on your phone?
@@OhWowThatsDumb she spent the entire film falling, getting beaten up, getting trapped, and then the predator itself cut her and certainly broke some bones. what movie did you watch?
Been watching since JP kill count and all you and everyone associated with this channel has done is improve. Without question, best horror CZcams channel.
The Predator throwing the bear trap at the one trapper’s head and it clamping down and killing him made me and my bf stand up and cheer. That’s probably my favorite kill of all time. But we watched this the morning after we watched Bullet Train, and we both definitely liked Prey WAY more, for many reasons. I grew up watching the Predator movies and my bf did not, this was the first Predator film he’s ever seen, and he loved it.
Comanches were actually really nice people. Read Empire of the Summer Moon-really dives into their neighborly kindness
French actually got along well with first nations and learned the language this is where the Metis come from first nations marring and mixing their culture and European culture such has Dutch and French. also, French stayed close to Quebec and Ontario, and it makes no sense they are 1000 miles out into buffalo country from Louisiana where they would be in the 1800's in this movies time frame, she should be meeting Spanish and English not French Cajuns worst is the French men has a French-Canadian accent what is he doing all the way out there he should be in the Louisiana bayou poor has hell after deportation if you look at French history in America this movie make no sense. just to had French fur trades ended in 1696.
I think the movie isn't perfect but it never dives into "invincible female protagonist" which shields it from a lot of criticism. Amber Midthunder did a great job. She gets her ass kicked a few times, loses her hunter war paint when she sees the Predator, and has to outwit it to win.
I also wanted the mention how we got the inverse of the use of mud in this film because when I first saw Naru get stuck in the mud pit I really thought she was going to use it to cover herself to trick the Predator but I like the fact that the medicine that she learns from her mom is what help gives her the edge to beat the Predator.
Went into this completely blind this morning when I got the notification for the pod. I am not a huge fan of predator so I didn’t get news that this was even happening
I was shook when I saw the invisible predator. It was actually really fun to not know I was watching a predator movie. And honestly this is my favorite one.
After watching Prey, I definitely want to see the Jurassic franchise get smaller too. The World series just didn't do it for me in so many ways.
I have strong indigenous Mexican lineage and I know it’s not the same ( technically cousins) but it was amazing to see all the native Americans and their culture ( it was also beautiful to see other with similar indigenous features 🥰)
I loved everything about this movie I just can’t believe the fact it took this long to finally give us a true predator movie worthy to sit in line with the first
I saw people complain how “there’s no way *she* couldn’t beat the predator like beating the predator doesn’t come down to raw strength but resourcefulness!
as a native i really appreciate that a movie used native americans as a main role
I loved this. I really appreciate movies with leading woc that make smart decisions or don't feel like they are making bad decisions for the story to move along. She was smart and she kicked ass
I found you guys through Spotify and this is my first time seeing the podcast in video form. James looks nothing like how I imagined him, but somehow EXACTLY how I imagined him. Hope you guys never stop. Love your film analysis and just overall how wholesome and sweet you guys seem 🥺
I love this movie!! So many movies are filmed by my hometown (Calgary, AB), but this one really highlighted it with the cinematography. I cried at the end 🙌🏻
38:00 “I ship it” Girl!!! Me toooo!!! Lex and Scar was a childhood favorite of mine lol
As a straight guy; James in a cowboy hat did something to me. Made me feel tingly inside 😂😂
I’m so happy y’all covered this! This movie was awesome
fun fact: the the predator comics one of the first predators to hunt on earth was in ancient japan and inspired the shinobi (ninja)
I need some kind of merch from DeadMeat that says “Everyone deserves to kick ass”
It was today that I thinkfully learned that the Comanche dub version was dubbed by the actors themselves.👏🏿
I love the podcast I've watched almost every episode
James definitely should do a kill count for this when he has time and when it releases on dvd
Around 53:00 I think what makes the first predator so great is because you see it’s Arnold but he’s facing something that even he’s terrified of and completely outmatches him so he ends up needing to learn how it works and outsmart it instead of using his muscles and badassery.
Bro I love this movie. I'm glad its getting mostly positive reviews. A lot of the negative stuff I've seen just seems like people choosing not like it and nitpicking. Also people really hate women being strong in movies too. Yea she got slapped around but honestly having crazy resilience in movies is fine. I'm so happy for the Native American community they caught giant W with this. Just a fun movie man and its simple. Amber Midthunder is a badass so is Dakota Beaver.
It’s implied in the novelization of the first movie, that the Predator (Jungle Hunter) had been to many other planets and had hunted and killed many apex species, it had just never hunted humans before.
This movie was done so well and so much care in treating the Native American characters with dignity and respect and not using the same tropes!! Gives me hope to see a Native American superhero in Marvel!!
Plus the kills were great in the film itself!! I do wish I had been released in theaters!!
I absolutely loved the mud. Like, talk about a red herring reference, because you ASSUME that it is going to be how the Predator can't see her, but that mud pit is a red herring for that. INSTEAD it's what helps her KILL the damn thing.
The other thing I loved is that the Feral Predator shows RESPECT to the things he hunts (except the french), like, he recognizes when they get their licks in on him and adjusts and I love that.
I love the shout out to Reservation Dogs and Rutherford Falls. I heard the there's a full Comanche version of the film.
As a training historian, seeing the French trying to panic fill their guns is top teir comedy we need more
I feel it James I’ve been married a year and a half and I always forget my wedding ring 😂. To be fair though I work with high voltage equipment a lot so I genuinely rarely wear it
Funny that Chelsea said she did the Leo point when she saw the flintlock pistol, I did the point when the brother said "If it bleeds, we can kill it."
This is how you do a proper reboot of a long running franchise. It's a similar concept, but executed in a very different way. And I like that this is so different from the other movies. The other Predator movies have a lot of over the top elements to them and Prey is so much more grounded in its characters and tone. It never crosses that line into goofy popcorn movie.
Also the first time, really, that I've rooted hard for the main characters. Other Predator movies, you're kind of waiting for the deaths. I really cared about the characters here and was invested in their respective journeys.
Even though Prey kills were off screen, the implications were so good it makes it more scary then showing it.
The scene in the tall grass where the Predator caught up with the guy and all we hear and see are screams and his blood violently splashing all over the place is the best example of this.
You don't see the guy getting brutally torn to shreds but you see and hear just enough to visualize it.
It wasn’t scary to start with so show the kills lol
There's a fair amount of on screen kills too though
As a linguist, for the question about Native American/First Nation language families, not all of them are related, but some of them are.
There are 28 language families in the Americas (North, Central, and South America). The most spoken in the US currently is Navajo, the Athabascan family. The Athabascan family includes ~45 other Native languages spanning from Alaska to Mexico along the west coast going inland, covering like half of Canada.
James forgetting to wear his wedding ring has been great reassurance for me continuing to forget to wear my engagement ring 👍🏻
Just watched Prey yesterday I really liked it, I missed Predator haven’t seen a predator movie in awhile ofc
I hope that James covers this movie on the kill count, just watched prey, it’s incredible
I'm shocked people would complain about Naru being a Mary Sue. I'm sitting there watching it like "This girl should have been dead AT LEAST four times so far (the lion, the bear, the mud, when the trappers trap her)!" I felt they built her up very well. She not only used her intelligence but they showed how she learned from hers (and others) mistakes.
I have been looking forward to this episode and I am so, so excited to hear Joey's perspective.
I paused this early on to go watch it because in 12 minutes, you guys hyped it up enough for me to go and watch this movie on hulu! Definitely glad I did, it was badass :)
One thing I feel this movie definitely showed us Is that certain Predators carry a S**T load of equipment
1:00:50 It’s funny that you say that considering that In The Predator comics. There have been times where Un Clocked Predators were able to Effortlessly wrestle and even defeated Lions, Tigers, and Bears OH SHIT
Iv been looking forward to this one James
I loved this movie
Do a shot every time yer man says “Native” and May you rest in peace.
Awesome movie, elite level episode!
Really hope they do a limited theater release for this one. I watched it on a 120" home theater screen and I still wanted it bigger!
13:38 YEESS!! My guy gets it hahaha 🙌 I'm a Pueblo Native (NM) and my first thought after seeing this movie, was exactly that. I have little brothers and sisters who are wild already, but when they get to see just how awesome we as Natives CAN be, they'll be unstoppable in life 🤙It was the little things in the movie that went far for me, the kick to wake Naruu up in the morning, the baby craddleboard(which is still used for newborns today), the long shot through camp with the people doing their own thing 👌👏 There's a connection I've made since I 1st saw the Predator movie is that, us as Natives are "One People" BUT we have different AND overlapping cultures. Which is a effect of where we settle. Pueblo Natives are different than the Northern Plains Natives, but somethings overlap, and others don't. The Yautja are similar 🤷♂️.
It's annoying to think theres going to be a bunch of dudes that are definitely gonna be mad cause of the "Strong Woman" or if she emphasizes her people think(cause they think it's "woke" or some shit) she can't hunt cause well they wouldn't given how "traditional" they are and thank God there wasn't a love interest just family and monster, also the French
Can't forgot the French
prey did the classic final girl thing, so it's 100% okay for me
Honestly I don’t think this falls into the “woke” culture. The movie doesn’t make Naru a Mary Sue nor does it make her a character tht doesn’t make mistakes. It’s annoying when movies make a woman a character tht is simply just better then everyone else at everything. Naru fails multiple times but learns from those failures and uses what she is better at. She doesn’t beat the predator bc she is a better warrior (it’s shown the brother is a better warrior but he still lost), she is a better hunter thn the others so that’s y she won.
where is her trauma?
@@robotslave779 if she had trauma they would whine about it being a victimhood empowering movie or some other bs. It's funny to see armchair critic modern luxury enjoying redditor idiots whine like they (or any of us for that matter) are the peak of male excellence and proceed to be triggered when anyone who is not a white male is given the spotlight or shown to be smart and strong. As if that hasn't been the status quo of film for centuries.
Is it just me or do james and chelseas voices compliment each other so well i love their channel the kill counts the podcasts its so good
What I loved about Prey and Predator 2, is that there is no forced love story or romance.
Blooded is when they kill a Xenomorph, they are concentered an adult. The premise is that it is this specific Yautja's first time on earth and that he is from a different hemisphere of Yautja prime, which is why he looks different and uses different gear. Also this movie fucking kicked ass so hard. Best one so far in my opinion.
PREY was such an upgrade from the shitty movies we’ve been getting like AVP and THE PREDATOR
AVP it dumb fun but yeah the predator is fucking garbage.
How is it better than them?
@@scaryrumpus you need it explained how a really good movie is far superior to a couple of really trash movies?
@@scaryrumpus i wasn't the biggest fan of Prey. That being said, The Predator and the AVP movies were REALLY bad. Although, the 2nd AVP was so bad that (for me) it was incredibly entertaining lol
That first avp movie isn't THAT bad. its dumb, but its at least entertaining.
I'm so glad you enjoyed this film. I told a friend that Prey gets a lot of undeserved hate. His response was that it gets a lot of undeserved praise. I really enjoyed it though. I even liked it more than the original. The reason is because the original was a cheesy 80s action flick. Which is fine, but it's not necessarily my favorite kind of film. I prefer this style of film. Plus, with Arnold being the star, you absolutely expect him to kick the Predator's ass. His character doesn't really grow. Whereas, Midthunder's character DID grow and overcame insurmountable odds.
Love when a new Dead Meat video drops!! My kid introduced me to the channel. I must have raised him right 😆
I’m part Cherokee and Sioux, although I don’t really look like it. But my son looks exactly like my native grandma and he loves learning about our culture. He LOVED Prey. He never pays any attention to movies, I didn’t expect him to even look up at it but he was really into it and so was I! This movie kicks ass. Can’t wait to see the kill count 😎
Lucy has her own seat at the podcast table.
I wish I would have realized there was a Comanche dub before i watched it but I'm really stoked it's the same cast providing the voices.
Prey has exceeded my expectations. This isn't just better than the 2018 film but it's also the best Predator film on par with the original. Of course the original is still the number 1 masterpiece of this franchise but Prey comes very close. I wish they released this in theaters. I don't understand why they put it on streaming. It would have been MUCH better as a theater experience. Predator 2 and Predators are also decent films, Predators holds a special place in my heart because it's the movie that introduced me to this franchise. The Predator 2018 is the only solo Predator film that sucked.
i thought this on my third rewatch. it was on par with the OG. along with no callbacks to classic Predator lines.
In Predators the doctor was played by Topher Grace, but I can understand getting him mixed up with Tobey Maguire.
Would be interesting to see a story about a human being inducted into the predator ranks.
Commenting as I watch, I did appreciate that the predator itself was still learning too, it has arrows. So much good action.
Instead of having kid sidekicks in movies, can we just make them dogs and not kill them haha.
I liked how Prey drew a comparison between the French trappers and the Predator as hunters killing simply for greed and ego, as opposed to Naru who eventually chooses to hunt to help her community.
Never watched a podcast before, this’ll be my first one
Welcome to the Meaties tribe👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Welcome, homie! The podcasts are great, and Chelsea is the dopest. My faves are the game episodes like guess the kill
Imo this predator's face looks MUCH better than the classic one we're used to see.
The first time I saw the classic predator face I laughed, this time I was like "Holy shit this is a cool alien"
It was pretty good and actually trying to do something different which is the important thing, it was refreshing to see the Predator in a new environment. I didn't feel it was preachy, it was situating the Predator in a new environment, imagine putting the Predator in Feudal Japan, Aztec Mexico or Genghis Khan's Mongolia. The possibilities really are endless and they can definitely find new and unique environments to put the Predator in. It's certainly more interesting and can develop new unique stories in the franchise, rather than retreading the soldiers vs predator trope, which we have seen many times now. Unsure, which sequel I prefer; Predator 2 is so zany and bonkers, with a great cast; Glover, Busey and Paxton, I will always have a soft spot for it. Only small complaint is the verrrry CG predator, I think this will hurt the movies watchability in the long run.
I'm from the Zapotec, I would kill for an Aztec Mexico setting for a Predator fim.
I AGREE SO HARD!!!
Probably one of the best things was that the characters didn't speak to much so there wasn't enough room for virtue signaling, eye rolling dialogue.
It was Topher Grace who played the doctor in Predators. It makes sense you thought it was Tobey Maguire because they both were in Spider-Man 3 where Topher's character is meant to be a twisted version of Tobey's that reflects all his negative traits.
Straight-up, Prey is my first Predator movie.
I quite enjoyed the hell out of it.
Can't wait for the eventual Kill Count.
Now go watch Predator, Predator 2 and Predators.
@@Spider-Man2094 the avp movies are worth it too if you just want dumb fun
Do it just for the enjoyment alone because so many of these movies are a whole lot of fun
@@Spider-Man2094
I plan on doing that.
Do I also have to watch The Predator as well?
one of my personal signs that a horror movie did it's job and told a damn good story is when it makes me cry b/c i'm just that damn amazed and overjoyed by it. this was one of those movies for me and why representation matters so so SO much. i'm in the same position as joey; i'm not comanche but i am native, and this film is absolutely a win for native communities everywhere. naru's victory cry hit my soul like nothing else and seeing her finally receive the war chief's staff ruined me in the best way; joey is 100% right: this Should be the standard.
If I had a quarter for every time they said “native” in this video
Sometimes I like to think of: If the Predator
species was going to this planet from this
Francis. What kind of tech would they make
to combat or deal with them?
Like the MANY Different Alien Species In
Ben 10, Or Marvel and DC
For Kryptonian's, Probably Kriptinite bombs
and spears
Stuff like that
That would actually make for a really
interesting documentary channel where:
Today on this episode of Yautja hunting. We
see what kind of unique Tech the Elite
Predators create to deal with the species on
(blank) Planet
My predator movie list ranked best to worst based on how much I enjoyed it
1. Predator
2.predators
3.predator 2
4. Prey
5. Avp1
6.avpr
7. The predator
How can you not like AVPR? They frickin nuked a whole town
Sarcasm
The Predator is the Great movie about Predator. Not sarcasm
@@user-vy8cw4jm4x no the fuck it’s not
I went into this movie on Disney+ because my friends recommended it and I did not know it was a Predator movie beforehand, so that was a huge surprise and also the relief that you don't have to know anything about the movies, because I haven't seen any of them (yet) besides watching them on the Kill Counts.