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Comandante Grinder FAQs | Where is Click Zero? A Guide on Dialling-in your Comandante Grinder.
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- čas přidán 19. 08. 2024
- Being able to easily repeat a great tasting brew means (among other things) choosing the right grind setting. To do that, you need to know what your grind setting is, and know how to get there! In this video, Joe shows you his definition of Click Zero - the reliable reference point from which you can track and set your grinder.
**Note: Joe says the word 'perfect' a lot in this video. By this, he means the best setting for YOUR coffee, YOUR water, YOUR recipe and YOUR tastebuds. The 'perfect' setting is the one that tastes best to you, so you should always consider recommendations as a starting point, from which you can dial in for your tastebuds.
Here are our recommendations for a starting point - make sure to adjust to suit your setup and taste preferences!!
- 5-8 Clicks for Cezve/Ibrik
- 8-15 Clicks for espresso
- 15-20 Clicks for a stovetop moka pot
- 20-35 Clicks for pour over, AeroPress, French press
- 30+ Clicks for Cupping and French Press.
We encourage you to share your recommendations and recipes in the comments below!
Check out our other videos for more tips, and hit subscribe to stay tuned for more coming soon!
You can find more helpful tips in the meantime over on our website: www.comandanteg...
Thanks for watching!
The most clear and simple explanation I've seen on CZcams on how to zero click a grinder. Hands down 🤟💚
Thanks for your support! :)
Oh, that "holding the handle for 12 clicks per 360 degrees" is a great tip. Thanks for that :)
Glad you like it :). Thanks for your support!
@@ComandanteGrinder, can you use the same tip on the C60 Baracuda? Or is the risk too high of cutting your fingers? Thanks
@@madspallesen156 yes indeed, this tip only applies to C40 not other models of Comandante.
Still the best item I ever invested in for my coffee. Had it for well over a year now and never looked back.
Would pay the asking price twice.
Thanks so much for your support!
@Concrete Head 😂Truth!
That move at the end for screwing the jar onto the grinder!!!
Give it a go ;)!
@@ComandanteGrinder I tried it, pretty easy but looks smooth as hell ^^
@@NicMediaDesign Not with my brand new cherry red grinder. I'm breaking it in slowly
Really helpful video, still loving my C40 MK4 I bought last year. Hands down better tasting coffee compared to a previous cheaper hand grinder I owned.
Thanks so much for the kind words!
Thank you so much !!!
Just got mine today. Down the filter coffee rabbit hole GOOOoooooooooo.......
Gooooooooo!!! :D Thanks for your support!
I'm glad I checked your faq page, those videos cover all basics. It seems worth the money, grinding is fairly easy and I've never see such an even grind never had good grinder either electric or otherwise. Can't compare really but it's joy to use, opened new bag of coffee played with it wasting a bit, I thought I set it too fine for moka pot, but it made excellent first cup.
Best coffee cup in a long while and it was just first attempt.
That's wonderful to hear! Thanks so much for your support!
Bought it today. Thank you for your guide (C40 Mk4). My first grinder. Can not wait to use it, tomorrow.
It would be useful to explain the double numbering on the scales of the manual. Will still search to find the difference between 0-40 and 0-80.
Hello there! Thanks for your support!
The click charts in the manual are related to the standard axle that comes with the grinder (0-40) and the Red Clix axle that is available as an optional upgrade. Red Clix offers double the possible settings within the same range of grind size -- 0-80 instead of 0-40 :). More info here: czcams.com/video/eZ-yYgvefRE/video.html
Best,
Joe
Now, I know how to calibrate my "German tank" !
Still the best buy AFTER the aeropress for this year for me!
Thanks for your support!
Just got mine in wenge veneer. It looks so much better than the photos. Amazing so far!
Thanks for your support!
Really wish i would have seen this video sooner, thank you sir!!
Thanks for your support!
Big THANKS for this. I was in fear of breaking it!
Subscribed!
I'll be making my first use of my newly bought Comanante tomorrow!
Thanks for your support!
Got one to grind the coffee for my percolator. Great device!
Thank you. You show the grind with quite some laid back style, I like it. 😎 Thank you for the explanation, super helpful.
Thanks for your support Mathilde! Glad you found the video helpful :).
Tolle und einfache Erklärung! ... und noch dazu von einem süßen Typen :-D
Es freut uns sehr, dass unser Video geholfen hat :). Team Comandante
Just got one today and OMG it is a beautiful thing!!!
Hey there Lance! Fantastic news! Thanks so much for your support 🙌🥰
Just ordered a Red Sonja and can’t wait to receiving it. Expected delivery is Dec 2021, I hope it’s early dec 😅 so i can start enjoying good coffee. This video is a good pointer before i start playing around with it when i received it
Thanks so much for your support Chester! Hope it arrives soon so you can enjoy brewing on another level 😍💥!
@@ComandanteGrinder yeah finger cross it will arrived soon 😄ordered it with Cloud Catcher in Malaysia 🇲🇾
@@chesterliew4360 It should leave our HQ today then ;).
@@ComandanteGrinder AWESOME 🤩🥰😍
i forced the first time a bit going a bit beyond the zero. Until I saw the video and the explanation was very clear. My question is, Have I damaged the grinder when forcing it? cheers
Hi there! Your grinder is robust so please don't worry :). Thanks for your support!
Excited to get mine in two days time woot woot!!! 🙏🙏🙏
😍🙏 Thanks for your support! 🥰
Thanks man!
No problem!
Can you please do a video showing the 12 click rotation more clearly ?
Thanks for your feedback :). Is there something we can answer here that was unclear about it perhaps too?
What Joe is doing at 2m10s is holding the grind dial still, whilst rotating the crank. This opens the burr.
Best regards from Munich!
Hi, just a question. I bought this incredible grinder for brewing specialty coffee at home and I'm totaly satisfied of the result that I currently have with grind size. I have just one dubt on the click zero. When I reduce the grind size I reach a point where the handle seems locked but if I give a gentle touch at the handle or if I invert the position of the grinder on the other side the handle restart to falling but less fluenty. At this point, if I give another click on the direction of fine size the handle will be fully locked. Now my question is: the point zero is the click where the handle is fully locked or where the handle seems locked. I think is where the handle is fully locked, but I prefer a confermation.
Thanks You! :)
Ciao Gabriele! The most important thing is just that you use the same definition every time, since this will mean your grind settings are always the same :). Thanks for your support!
@@ComandanteGrinder
Thanks for the answer! :D I definitely assumed as click zero the click for which the handle is completely locked and I think so. sometimes I tried to use as a zero click the click for which the handle seems stuck, but every time I took (after a few hours) the coffee grinder the handle started moving again. Giving it a further click it freezes completely and then that will be the zero click.
Same here. The click zero locks the crank completely. The click 1 seemingly locks the crank at first, but it does not if you do a slight turning movement. I thought there was something wrong with the click 1.
Good evening, today I bought MK4, and so I noticed such a feature, the millstones rustle from “1 to 6 clicks” from zero, is this the norm or a marriage?
I didn’t have this with MK3, so after 2 clicks from “0” everything was perfect, no noise.
Hello there and thanks for your support! This is totally normal - it's due to our 'floating cone' design :).
Unlike some other grinders, the cone has flexibility on the axle. Without load (when the grinder is empty) you are able to move the cone on the axle, and it may sit ever so slightly off-centre due to the spring. But don’t worry - as soon as you grind coffee, the cone follows the centricity of the axle and the burr ring. We have tested this very carefully in our laboratory and the results speak for themselves :).
Thank you
Welcome!
Hey! So I just got this and went to point 0, maybe even point -1 or -2 since I wasn’t sure. Then I cranked the handle a half turn but it was stuck pretty good. Does this mean I damaged the burrs? There were no coffee beans and the grinder was brand new.
No need to worry! Your grinder is a robust piece of kit :).
In my grinder MK3 the millstones touch each other when the handle rotates when i set it from 1 to 5 clicks. Can I set 5 clicks, and grind coffee if while free rotation (without grain) I hear the millstones hitting each other?
Hello there and thanks for your support! This is normal and nothing to worry about :). Check out the final section of our FAQs on our website: comandantegrinder.com/faq.html
Thank you for the video. LOVE my new grinder. Just to be clear -- when the grinder is held in hand at a horizontal angle, 0 is the first point where the handle will not "FALL" when held in this horizontal position? Once set, even if we technically have no "fall" in the horizontal position, having some slight rotation movement when I return the grinder to its upright (vertical) position is normal because we don't want to over tighten the burrs, correct? I have set my new grinder and although there is no fall in horizontal, I still have some slight, unforced, natural rotation in its upright position.
The most important thing really is that you have a consistent click zero by your own definition, since all your grind settings will therefore be relative to the same starting point and you can consistently dial in :). Don't worry about over-stressing the burr or parts too much - it's all built to last!
Best,
Joe
Getting mine tomorrow! Any recommendations for click setting ranges for various brew methods?
Hey Stephen,
you can find some recommendations in the (German) manual: www.comandantegrinder.com/downloads/c40_manual_DE.pdf
Head up to "Empfohlene Mahlgradbereiche"
@@meFisttoU Thanks Hauke!
@Stephen Goldberg, thanks for your support! We hope you've found some delicious settings for your brews :)
Hallo liebes Team, hab die Mk4 und bin mir unsicher wegen Klick 0. Wenn der Griff locker ist und ich einen Klick feiner gehe, bleibt er waagerecht stehen aber bei leichter Bewegung senkt er sich doch ab. Gehe ich dann noch einen Klick feiner, ist er wirklich fest. Jetzt frage ich mich, was davon jetzt wirklich die 0 ist. Ja, diese Frage beschäftigt mich tatsächlich 😂 Ich habe auch Espressobohnen da, welche bei Klick 5 noch zu schnell laufen, obwohl es schon fast nach Asche aussieht. Ich denke das liegt dann aber an den Bohnen... Danke und Grüße aus Baden Württemberg.
Hallo lieber Ben! Erstens vielen lieben Dank für deine Unterstützung!
Eigentlich ist es egal welchen Nullpunkt du nimmst, solang er immer der gleiche ist :). So ist dein Klick 25 z.B. immer gleich :).
Ich hoffe, dass das verständlich ist?
Liebe Grüße,
Joe
Can you have multiple 0's on a commandante? When I completely turn it to the right I have a few clicks before it gets to the point where it's lose enough to swing around
We would describe this as click zero, then -1, -2, etc :).
does this grinder produce grind fine enough for espresso?
No problem! :)
thanks for the good video about click zero, is that same with X25 trailer as well...?
thanks boss
Please share recipes!
Hey there Brandon! Thanks for your suggestion :). That is something we'd very much like to do. Since there are so many possibilities out there, we're considering the best approach to a video. Stay subscribed and keep an eye out ;)...
@@ComandanteGrinder Can't wait ! Temperatures and technique (especially for people like me with a plebian kettle) would be great.
Joe, hier im Video zu sehen, macht auch den Kundenservice bei Comandante. Super zeitnahe, freundliche und hilfreiche Kommunikation! Wenn man sich den Herstellungsprozess der Comandate anschaut (czcams.com/video/BAbbmzyRC3s/video.html), rechtfertig dies den Kaufpreis bereits. Wenn dann noch so ein herausragender Service dazu kommt, kann ich die Mühle jedem nur empfehlen!
Did you actually print the video name on the wall?
It took ages to get off!
Just kidding, all computer generated 🙃...
Hello, I want to make Turkish coffee, can I grind my commander with click 1 or is it too fine to force my grinder? Note: at click 1 there is still very slight resistance when turning the crank, and at point 2 the crank turns freely.
No problem at all! There's no risk of damaging your grinder like this :). Most Cezve/Ibrik brewers like to start around 4-6 clicks, but it's important that you brew, taste, and adjust to suit your coffee and personal preference :). Thanks for your support!
@@ComandanteGrinder Thank you Comandante!
I need only 4-5 clicks for m'y Rok Espresso. Is it normal?
The 'correct' grind setting is always so relative to your equipment, water, coffee, and of course your taste preference! Please don't be concerned if what works for you lies outside of the recommended grind setting ranges. These should be considered as a starting point, from which you must brew, taste and adjust to suit :). Enjoy your brewing!
Best,
Joe
I'm wondering; can you go beyond click zero and force it? Not that I want to do that, I'm just wondering if that's possible and if it could damage the grinder.
thanks. I can do one more click from the point where the handle stops moving, should I go there or am I already on zero as soon as the handle stops moving?
You are already at zero :).
Same stuff I wanted to ask I can go 2 more clicks after zero point but now this is cleared
So 20-35 clicks for Chemex? I saw a website that said at least 40 clicks or even up up to 65 with the Red Clix model. I have a Nitroblade, which I suppose is the standard model
Hi there and thanks for your support :). The Red Clix is a different axle that fits into all grinders as normal - see our video explanation about it via our channel :)... For Chemex it is generally recommended to go slightly coarser than your grind size for a v60 or other pour-over, since the papers are thick and the brew often slower by comparison. But the right grind size depends so much on the size of your brew, your coffee, and most importantly, your personal taste preference! Stick to a tried and tested or recommended recipe, and then adjust your grind setting based on taste :). Hope that helps!
@@ComandanteGrinder great, what recipe do u recommend for a chemex
and other one for v60 ?
@@tonydanty172 Hi there! Over on our Instagram Page (instagram.com/comandantegrinder/) we've been posting contributed recipes every Friday for several weeks now, so there are plenty of recipes to try out there :). Generally speaking we recommend finding a simple recipe to begin with, focussing hard on controlling the variables, and adjusting the grind setting to suit your taste :). Please remember that all setting recommendations are only a starting point and you should always trust your tastebuds. Don't be afraid to go away from recommendations if that's what tastes good to you! Best, Joe
in the case of turning beyond "point zero" does it do much damage to the burs? I think i may have turned mine 1-2 clicks ahead of point zero.. I'm just worried about messing up this beautiful piece of machinery.
No need to worry :). Your grinder is a robust piece of kit!
So, let me make sure I understand...
My C40's dial will continue to turn 2 clicks beyond the point where the handle actually stops moving... but that's too far, correct? "Zero" is actually the point where the handle simply stops moving, regardless of the fact that there are 2 clicks after that?
Hi Bobby, that's right!
At the zero point, the arm remained stationary. It only moved when I shook the mill. Is it normal for him to move? Or should I tighten 1 more click?
Does grinding at 1 Klicks setting damage teeth?
It's absolutely normal, it can move a bit and it still is a zero click. It depends on how clean is your grinder inside ☺️ and you can of course grind on 1 click but it's too fine for most brewing methods.
Hello again....If I forget how many clicks my commander was in, how can I know if I want to do another grind?
To find out what the setting is/was, simply close the burr and count the clicks until you get to zero. That way, you know what the setting was :).
How would i go about setting the red axle to 0? Same Method? As Half step still let's the handle spin with some minimum force, but it doesn't hold up perfectly yet on it's own
Hello there! Same method :). If the handle is just about still falling, then you're likely at click 1 for Red Clix :). Thanks for your support!
Hi, what is the minimum and maximum click settings for both fine grind and coarse grind? maybe 2 clicks minimum and 35 or more clicks maximum? Thank you.
Hello there!
Over in the FAQ section of our website (comandantegrinder.com/faq.html) we have some recommended grind setting ranges across the full range of brewing methods. These are good starting points but depending on your coffee, equipment, recipe and personal taste, you should brew, taste and adjust to suit your preference :).
Thanks for your support!
can coffee be inside when i put it on? nothing will happen?
Damn, why I didn't google it months ago? So many cups were ruined just because I felt a little bit more or less strong morning >_
What happen if we accidentally over-tighten the grinder? For example, to minus 5 clicks. Will the grinder be harmed?
Unlikely, but you tell me -- probably working fine, right :)? Thanks for your support!
Best, Joe
I heard that you are not supposed to go below 5 to not damage the grinder. I would like to try setting it to 4 but I am afraid to damage it.
No risk of damaging it! Good thing you asked us directly :)
Thanks for your support!
Best,
Joe
@@ComandanteGrinder so is it okay if i am frequently using let say 3 click or 4 click from 0 for my espresso dial? Because my burr rub started on 5 click..
Just need confirmation from you guys 😅
@@adityancandra9711 Hey there! No problem at all! Happy grinding :)
Hi there guys. Got my new Mk4 and have a question about (unexpected 😅) burrs. My guide book says that I can start grinding turkish at 1 click after zero point, but my burrs touch each other to 4 click. I know about “floating cone” but is it really safe to grind at 2-4 clicks regularly or it might be harmful to the burrs?
Hello, you can read more about the floating cone in the FAQ section of our website. Then you can be assured that it's safe to regularly grind on 2-4 clicks even when you think the burrs touch on an an empty grinder. It's impossible to damage our burr set in this way ☺️
Hey, with the standard setup there was a clear click from click 1 to burrs fully locked. After installing red clix, the first click that stops the burrs will allow the handle to drop with a gentle shake, the next click locks fully. Would you say that zero is the position where the handle won't move with a gentle shake? Thanks.
Hey there! For me personally, yes :). The most important thing is just that you use the same point for zero, since then all of your settings will be repeatable :).
Best,
Joe
Ive had the comandante for more than 2 years now. Today I cleaned it and I cant close the burrs enough to lock it. Basically I cant find click zero. What could be happening?
Hello there! Sounds like you may have inserted the top washer after the axle rather than before :)? Please follow the steps in our cleaning video carefully to make sure :).
Thanks for your support!
I tighten it until I can't click anymore, will that damage the grinder?
I accidently found I can force click 3 more clicks after point zero and I just do that
@@EvianD-ce4ww if you did it just once, then for sure there is no damage. Just don't regularly over tighten your grinder.
@@ComandanteGrinder thanks bro
Does the potential residue from your last grind influence where click zero would be located or will it not be affected?
Hi Martin! No, the grind setting is mechanically locked into place by our Clicker and can't change during grinding. It only changes if you change it :).
Hi. I have some question, Yesterday i let my friend who first time used commandante grinder and he didn’t know where’s the zero click so he adjust around -8 to -9 from zero click there’s no coffee bean inside when he adjusted. I am worried that my grinder is already damaged or not? Thanks :)
Hello there! We seriously doubt it :). Simply use your grinder as normal and it will be fine :).
Thanks for your support!
I am considering purchasing the Comandante C40 MK4 for an automatic drip brewer, using Kalita Wave 185 filters, what click setting would you recommend as a starting point? Thanks
Hey there Gregory! It's really very dependent on the water, coffee, and recipe you are using. In our instruction manual (also available to download on our website) you can find some recommended starting points for different methods :). The most important thing, though, is to start there, but then taste and adjust to suit your preference! Thanks for your support!
I got my mk4 and after point zero ( from where arm doesn’t move ) I can force click 2 more clicks is it normal n same with all mk4 I mean all grinders go 2 force click after zero that’s what I want to ask in case my frnd share recipe and he has exact 2 force click after zero in case he is telling me some other zero point ?
Hello, just please don't force clicks beyond 0 point. And calculate/count always from the moment the handle doesn't drop. That's it.
@@ComandanteGrinder got it
@@ComandanteGrinder why I asked because some of comments mentioned-1 -2 clicks post click zero .. so my calculation was like that keeping 2 clicks as minus clicks post zero m not forcing it regularly
hi want to ask. im using flair pro 2. normal and recommended clicks for flair around 9-10 clicks for 15gram of beans. but i need to set to 6 clicks for my comandante to get the right pressure. is it every comandante got slightly different setting?
Hi there! Nothing to worry about here :).
I'm not sure we've ever published recommended click settings for the Flair specifically, so perhaps the recommendation came from another user 🙃? Equipment (especially for Espresso) can vary a lot, as does the coffee and - yes - each grinder can be slightly different. The golden rule is to follow your tastebuds to see what tastes best to you with your coffee and the equipment you have :).
Thanks for your support!
Best,
Joe
I went a little bit too tight after point zero to the point that can't click anymore, would that damage my grinder?
No worries :).
I rotated the handle when the grinder was set to 0. It didn't go smooth. Is my C40 burrset damaged?
I highly doubt it :).
Thanks for your support!
Best,
Joe
Hello, any news/plans for the new MK4? Hope it will be released in the near future. It's been a long time since MK3 first came out and it's the time to upgrade it to stay competitive in the market since there are now many good premium hand grinders.
Hi there! Thanks for your support :). Over the past years we've already made several hidden upgrades to the MK3 in terms of production processes and have continually stepped up the quality. Our Nitro Blade burr set was developed with the help of years of sensory and particle analysis in our lab, and we consider it still by far the best conical burr set you'll find in a hand grinder. Our continuous testing of it and new ideas shows us that it really is difficult to beat, but you can be sure we're working on it ;)...
We are happy to hear that you are keen to know what's coming next and hope to share some news with the world soon enough ;)!
Hello, Is it normal that even after click 0 ( where the handle stops moving), I can still turn the dial 1 or 2 clicks more ?
Thank you for your help
Hi there Maxime, yes totally normal :). Thanks for your support!
@@ComandanteGrinder Thank you for your feedback :)
Got mk4 today at zero point ( when handle don’t move ) after that point also my grinder go 2 click more .. so which is exactly zero point when handle stop moving or 2more force clicks ?
will grind on 5 clicks make the burr life shorter?
Hello there! No, your Nitro Blade burr cannot damage itself :). Thanks for your support!
Can you tell me how to remove the ring inside chamber? I put it wrong, so the ring now stuck inside the camber
Which ring do you mean?
@@ComandanteGrinder already solved it ;D
I just got my Comandante today, and after going to click zero, I can still move the crank slightly, Is that normal or should I adjust it until I can't move it anymore? Not forcing it close also. Ty
Thanks for your support!
By our definition, if your crank can fall under its own weight, then the burr isn't fully closed to zero.
To be honest, the only important thing is that you decide, so that you use the same starting point every time :).
I hope that makes sense!
Best,
Joe
@@ComandanteGrinder It does, and I have just read the FAQ on the website and realized i was on -2 on the clicks. Thanks for the reply and Thank you for a wonderful product. Expecting it to last a lifetime
@@nanashii69 We wish you many beautiful coffees! Thanks for your support!
Is it possible to go "beyond" point zero? Or is this technique just useful to prevent the burrs?
Yes it's normally possible. On my scale you could consider that -1 or -2, etc. However, these are useless settings for any kind of coffee brewing method. (For example, a starting point for Cezve/Ibrik coffee would be 4-8 clicks). No risk of damaging the burrs though at these fine settings, so don't worry :). Simply use zero as a reference for counting back to and tracking your grind setting :).
@@ComandanteGrinder Does going past zero overnight in a damaging way? I guess my question is, is it possible to damage the grinder by over tightening? Will it strip the threads on the axle?
@@SnowBob302 Perhaps it's possible if one did this again and again and again. But like I mentioned in the previous comment, it's simply unnecessary, and our method for finding click zero avoids any material stress that might occur :).
Comandante Grinder I understand now, I was primary asking since I turned halfway past zero until I felt the resistance when I first got the grinder so I was trying to figure out what mechanical effect this was having and whether it was crashing the burrs together. I looked up this video and learned your method after I felt the resistance and didn’t see any notes warning against it in the instruction guide. That’s for the reply!
@@SnowBob302 Sounds like everything is fine :). Don't worry about your grinder, it is a robust tool that will last you a long time :).
I feel like after a year of grinding (home use), click one no longer lets the handle rotate freely (but not as locked as on click zero). Could it be the sign of some issue?
Unlikely to be an issue :). Is it safe to assume that the grinder is clean and correctly assembled (like in our cleaning video!) ?
will it damage the burrs if I turn the handle @ point zero?
Hello there James. No, there's not really any risk of damaging the burrs doing that :). If you have coffee in the grinder you'll see that you can still grind coffee, it's just super super fine! It's no good for making coffee though, so we recommend you try another setting ;)...
@@ComandanteGrinder accidentally did this today. This video has been a great resource for all my worries lol. I think I understand the mechanical construction now. When you tighten to click zero, the friction from the lips of the outer and inner burrs keep the axle from rotating but this section of the burrs is not used for grinding. I imagine if you turned the axle too much at 0 you would smooth out the overlapping lips of the burrs and there would not be enough friction to hold the axle stationary against gravity anymore. It seems like there is enough of a gap between the teeth of the burrs used for grinding that would prevent damage to the cutting sections even if the nut was tightened all the way up the axle thread.
@@SnowBob302 You're correct that the burrs cannot damage themselves :). Burr contact at these finer settings is both normal and no problem at all for your grinder :). Thanks for your support!
@@SnowBob302 So does grind quality still reduce after a length of time?
Hi mate , im new to comandante but im not new to espresso , is it normal that i get normal pull at 7-8 clic with the red clix ? Doesnt sound very normal to me and also it worry me a bit for the price i paid the grinder with the red clix upgrade .is it possible that the burr are not aligne correctly ?
Hey there! How does the espresso taste :)?
@@ComandanteGrinder in all honesty .. it just taste ok , with a lacking of texture . I bought it as a second hand grinder after i bought a jx-pro . Now i'm concidering returning the comandante to the store since its obviously not made for dialing espresso even with the red clix . 15 micron is to big of a step , specialy at this price point ...anyway thats just my 2 cents ...and im not talking about the grinding time ether ...
@@The_Coffee_Rabbit_Hole 15 microns is the effective change to particle size. The burr gap actually shifts only 6 microns, but coffee never breaks apart evenly, so there is always variation from dose to dose. (That's down to physics/chance in how the beans in that dose hit the burr gap, and also biology in terms of how each bean's cell structure is built - no two beans are the same). Rather than talk about 6 microns as a theoretical measurement of setting change per click, we prefer to give the actual change to the beans.
It's normal to notice a flavour profile difference when switching to a Nitro Blade burr. They perform uniquely clean and crisp amongst conical burrs. Hope you enjoy playing around with some different coffees and recipes :).
Thanks for your support!
@@ComandanteGrinder well unfortunatly i want please with the comandante even with the red clix , i was just not seeing the value. This grinder is just not sutable for espresso , the burr is way to small and it take for ever to grind . The espresso range is also way to small for serious espresso maker . I cannot believe that for that price the result wasnt there . Maybe it is good for pour over but really guys we are now in 2020 , there is a ton of competition innovating and doing thing way better for much cheaper .. and dont get me wrong i know that producing something in germany isnt the same as in asia , but still if the result isnt there and the price is higher than ... its not for me . I ended up returning the grinder to the store and i got a 1zpresso j-max and it is absolutly on an other level 👌. Also find what's in the cup much better , but thats just my 2 cents
I was going fone till it fully stopped and cant go finer is that supposed to be click -7 ?
We recommend simply following the steps in the video above to find click zero as your starting point, and then opening the burr from there to find a setting suitable for your coffee and brew method :). It is possible to click tighter beyond zero, but this is essentially useless and could put unnecessary stress on the grinder :).
Thanks for your support!
Thanks alot !
@@ComandanteGrinder thanks alot !
How many clicks for a ROK espresso plse ?
for my espressomachine 6-8 clicks get the best espresso, i am not sure about the ROK to be honest but ill guess 8 would be a nice starting point
wouter andeweg thank you very much ! Have a nice weekend
It really depends on the quality of the beans. On low quality beans i need like 15 clicks for espresso. On high quality beans i need 21 clicks (with the red clix upgrade)
Just got mine in black. Feels robust,easy to use and extract nice flavours. But could not understand why is the disclosure about material etc. In english only and how to use manual in german only included in the box,I mean you could add leaflet about other of your products in japanese and brief info about your company in russian,sorry it felt a little bit funny. Honest question how many clicks can you make maximum each way,this info is not in manual/online. Thanks.
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There are about 50 click settings between the burr being closed and the grind setting dial coming off the axle. Generally speaking, clicks 5-35 is the range to use for coffee brewing, from Cezve/Ibrik right through to coarse filter coffee settings. Thanks for your support!
@@ComandanteGrinder I forgot to ask, there are two ways to change the settings, one indicates coarse and another fine grains. Which side do I go for espresso?
@@pawelgedyk1762 We recommend starting around 10 clicks for Espresso, and adjusting to suit the coffee and your taste :). 10 clicks means closing the burr (clockwise) as demonstrated in this video, then opening it (anti-clockwise) 10 clicks :).
I dont have a point zero where the handle doesnt fall... is mine busted?
Hello there! Have you checked our other video to see if your grinder is correctly assembled? If the top washer isn't inserted correctly, then the axle can sit too low in the grinder for the burr to close... Hope that helps!
@@ComandanteGrinder got it that's why!
@@johnsoncylee Glad to hear it's fixed!
Ich hab aus Unwissenheit bis ca -11 gedreht. Könnte theoretisch was kaputt gegangen sein?
Und wenn ja wo würde der Schaden entstehen?
also wo im Mahlwerk :)
Wahrscheinlich nicht :).
Der Nullpunkt ist nach Firmenangabe also erreicht, wenn die Kurbel nicht mehr nach unten fällt. Was halten Sie davon, dazu einen Satz in das Begleitheft zu schreiben? Ich habe dazu nichts gefunden. Wenn man diesen Punkt erreicht hat, lässt sich die Mühle noch drei weitere Klicks verstellen, bis die Kurbel fest verankert ist. Eine Stufe weiter, lässt sich die Kurbel wieder bewegen. Dass jenes und nicht dieses der Nullpunkt sein soll, muss man auch erst kommen. Logisch ist das nicht. Es ist richtig, wie Sie mehrmals geantwortet haben, entscheidend ist, dass man immer vom selben Nullpunkt ausgeht. Das Problem dabei ist, dass Ihre Vorgaben, in welchem Bereich man was mahlen sollte, nur passen, wenn man Ihre Definition von Nullpunkt beachtet. Mein Siebträger war bei Stufe 13 überfordert und getampt habe ich eher zu leicht als zu fest. Ein Satz noch zur Mühle selbst: Warum nur habe ich die nicht schon früher entdeckt?
Guten Tag und vielen Dank für die Unterstützung! In der aktuellen Bedienungsanleitung gibt es einen Satz dazu, aber vielleicht war es nicht klar genug und wir nehmen gerne das Feedback als Verbesserungsvorschlag auf :). Danke!
Es freut uns sehr zu lesen, dass die Mühle gut gefällt. Zu den Einstellungen: diese müssen eh immer als 'Startpunkt' bzw. Empfehlung verstanden werden -- die 'beste' Einstellung ist von den Bohnen, dem Rezept, dem Wasser und natürlich auch vom persönlichen Geschmack abhängig :). Es klingt aber, als ob hier schon die 'beste' Einstellung gefunden wurde :).
Weiterhin viel Spaß mit der Mühle und viele Grüße aus Unterhaching!
Joe
@@ComandanteGrinder Nach Ihrer Antwort have ich nochmal in die Bedienungsanleitung geschaut. Diese müsste die aktuelle sein. Dort steht nur „ Wenn Sie das leere Mahlwerk im Uhrzeigersinn leicht schließen (Nullpunkt)und…“ Wo geht daraus hervor, dass dies der Punkt sein soll, an dem die Kurbel nicht mehr nach unten fällt. Für mich ist der Nullpunkt der Punkt an dem man nur noch in eine Richtung drehen kann. Die richtige Einstellung habe ich noch nicht gefunden, was aber nicht weiter tragisch ist. Persönlich gehe ich von dem Nullpunkt aus, der mir logisch erscheint und richte mich bei der Einteilung nach dem Aussehen der gemahlenen Bohnen.
@@jochenwirtz7506 Letztendlich ist es auch nur wichtig, dass man für sich einen zuverlässigen Referenzpunkt hat, von dem man dann die Klicks zählen kann, während man das Mahlwerk aufmacht. So fängt man immer beim gleichen Punkt an und landet bei Klick 'X' immer bei der gleichen Einstellung. Von daher, machen Sie alles richtig :).
Falls Sie weitere Fragen haben können Sie uns auch gerne anrufen oder eine Email an unser Support Team schicken - support@comandante-grinder.com
@@ComandanteGrinder Dwr Referenzpunkt sollte zu den angegebenen Richtwerten einigermaßen passen. Mit meiner Anregung, das in der Beschreibung näher zu beschreiben, hatte ich neue Käufer im Sinn. Ich weiß ja jetzt, dass jeder unter Nullpunkt etwas anderes verstehen kann. Selbst wenn ich den Nullpunkt drei Klicks weiter setzen würde, was Ihrer Definition entspräche, passen die Richtwerte für Espressi nicht. Ich bin für einen Espresso bei 14 Klicks gelandet. Bei 13 Klicks ist meine Siebträgermaschiene überfordert. Dies wären nach Ihrer Zählweise bei 10 Klicks. Überfordert ist diese allerdings auch teilweise mit der Reinigungstablette.
Instructions unclear I just cut off my pinky finger
😅 Did you confuse it with your coffee beans?
I just got mine I think I’ll be awake all night now.
Thanks for your support! Hope you find our video guides useful for getting started :).
Best, Joe
10 clicks for expesso 😂
Just an example ;).
Deutscher Titel, aber englisch mit Untertitel, schwaches Bild für Euch
Hallo Tchh, wir sind neben München aber wir sind eine internationale Firma mit internationalen Kunden. Für die große Mehrheit (wie für mich auch 🇬🇧) ist Deutsch nicht die Muttersprache. Wir haben also sowohl unsere Webseite als auch unser Video Guides auf Englisch. Für Nutzer in Deutschland gibt es auf CZcams die Titeln auch auf Deutsch, und für alle dann die Option englische oder deutsche Untertiteln hinzufügen. Falls du Fragen hast kannst du uns auch sehr gerne telefonisch oder per Email an info@comandante-grinder.com erreichen - da helfen wir sehr gerne :).
Vielen Dank und viele Grüße aus Unterhaching,
Joe
This video is painful to listen to on the ears. I'm not talking about the content. But the echo in the room makes it painful to listen to!!
Just imagine how bad it was listening to my own voice echoing back at me! 🥴😂
(Our production centre would have been way worse, trust me...)
Best,
Joe
Is the Commandante ideal for coarse grinds for French Press? I just learned that the Kinu M47 is not. 🥲
Hello there Sylvia! Yes, absolutely :). We designed and developed our Nitro Blade burr set to provide a super clean particle distribution across the full range of brew methods :). It brews wonderful French Press coffees, because our burr produces much fewer fines than others and you can go finer than normal for a better extraction :). Thanks for your support!