Swing Trading Vs. Position Trading - How to Manage Winners
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Matt Petrallia CMT is a professional trader with more than 20 years of experience blending both swing trading and position trading strategies. While some traders supersize positions on volatile stocks to try to earn super performance Matt is more focused on staying mentally balanced while his account climbs higher.
In this video Matt discusses his approach the pros and cons to both swing and position trading along with his guidelines for each. Matt will always determine which category a trade fits in before he makes it. This way he always knows which set of rules to follow which in turn reduces the mental stress of trading.
Swing Trading:
- Catching short to medium term 'swings' in price
- Compound account quickly; high turnover
- Duration: 1 day to 2 weeks (market dependent)
- Trading time frame: daily charts
- Expectation: Ideally 3-5R
Position Trading:
- Catching medium to long term price trends
- Requires sitting through pullbacks / earnings reports
- Focus on weekly charts - fine tune with daily
- Requires some knowledge of fundamentals
- Lasts anywhere between one week to many months or even 1+ years
- Larger R Multiple return is possible but comes with opportunity cost.
He concludes by encouraging viewers to embrace failure and use it as a learning tool stating that traders who rush the process of attaining trading knowledge are more likely to fail. Matt stresses to always be in trade alignment: Time Frame, Duration, and Expectation.
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Timestamps:
00:00 - Introducing Matt Petrallia
02:37 - Trade Alignment
11:20 - Creating Expectations
18:36 - Personalizing Trading System
26:14 - Swing Trading Rules & Expectations
32:45 - Paying Yourself on Winners
36:35 - Position Trading Rules & Expectations
40:41 - Position Trade Management
48:00 - 2023 Trading Results & Examples
53:26 - PLTR & PTX Trade Example
1:00:09 - SPOT, DKNG, NVDA Trade Examples
1:11:36 - AMD Deep Dive (Swing Trade)
1:27:43 - Closing Trading Advice
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12:00 Environment; Alignment
19:00 Weathering drawdowns
*28:00** Swing trading (1 day to 2 weeks; 3-5R)*
37:00 Position trading
40:30 Taking partial profits
48:55 Opportunistic swing trade example
58:00 Paying yourself by catching meat of the move
1:05:30 Deciding between swing and position trades
1:08:00 *NVDA (position trade)*
1:13:00 AMD (position trade) 1:23:00
1:21:00 PLTR (volatile example)
1:28:00 Understand and FOCUS on alignment (i.e., your plan)
Thanks!!
Matt is by far one of my favorite guests! Thank you for having him back on again 🙏
Our pleasure!
Love this guy. All killer, no filler. Super actionable advice. One of my favourite Twitter folks too!
Nice!
One of the best interviews on this great channel, Matt keeps raising the bar every time he has a presentation, nugget after nugget... Richard just gets the best out of the guests he interviews. 5 ⭐️ 👊👍
Thanks Tony!
This has got me into rethinking my whole selling strategy. I can totally relate, specially, in a choppy environment - how awful it feels to see a trade run and then ultimately throwing you out at breakeven. This method of taking partials so that you can hold onto your position trades longer psychologically and easily has really got me into thinking again.
Your channel has been the most helpful out of all of them, the playlist of you guys going through the ultimate training guide is literally everything a noob like me needs to get their training wheels on and be prepared for the markets with confidence. Can’t recommend this channel enough.
Great to hear!
Thanks, Richard, for bringing over Matt! Always nice to hear from him. 😊
Our pleasure!
Thank you for dedicating a vid to position vs swing. I’ve never heard anyone describe it that clearly & give details about execution.
Awesome
He talks so much sense ...I was shocked to hear most of his experiences matchwith mine in swing trading...loved his point of having to sit through the earnings unpredictability if u hold a swing for more than couple of months and taking atleast some profits to add to your account ...
Nice guest, I think he’s onto it in that sense that it’s all so personalised. Minervini talks about style drift being an account killer, but that doesn’t mean not following someone else’s style to a T. I think it means not following your own style to a T.
Matt has shown us here an example of how to clearly follow your own style, his early delineation of ‘swing vs position’ before taking a trade and the way he takes risk off early because he knows it’s the only way for him personally to keep holding. It shifts around with market conditions and conviction but it’s not random either. It’s tailored to his own personality and that’s what makes his system sustainable for him.
You got the most important lesson out of the video. Trading is about being the best you can be & that only happens when you own your style.
Matt is great. Love to hear him. A level headed trader who emphasizes the value of process again and again. Also, even though I am a day trader, I loved hearing his valuable perspectives on Swing and Positional trading.
Great work Richard. Thank you!
Great to hear!
Very relatable and straight to the point! Thanks a lot to the host and the interviewee 👏🏽👏🏽
Thanks for watching
Matt's perspective in this interview really helped me work out some questions and issues I've been working on that will almost certainly accelerate my journey. Thanks for posting!
Great to hear!
This is awesome,
Whenever i feel that this is the best interview,you come up with another THE BEST interview.
haha glad you enjoyed!
Wow so much clarity in the process by Matt!! Thanks a lot to Richard and Traderlion team for this yet another insightful interview.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you, Matt and Richard, for a great interview. A lot of key concepts such R:R, taking partials are explained very clearly. It brings a lot of clarity in my mind about swing and positional trading.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you, Matt and Richard. This was one of the most helpful interviews I've seen. I've watched it twice. He spoke to an issue I've had trouble identifying, but it became very clear. And, yes, Richard, those mattress companies can really take off 😂 go TPX...
Our pleasure!
Thank you Matt for sharing your valuable knowedge. It definitely answered my wonder. Also thanks Richard for your great channel
No problem!
An excellent dive into the mindset of a Swing/Positional trader. Thanks for bringing this to us!!
Happy to! Matt did a great job.
Very clear style by very direct approach , putting finger on something I have realise has been one of my problems (1000 others yet to be discovered and solved 😄) This video Inspired me alot , many thanks to you Richard and Mr Petrallia. All conversations with him are excellent in my opinion and very helpful.👋👋👋
Glad you found value from the video!
Great info, thanks to both of you guys !
No problem!
Great Interview ! TY Matt and TL team!
Thanks!
Dam good. Awesome content just like Matt's previous interview with Richard 2 years back. Great going Richard. Thank you. Jai Shri Ram 🙏
Thanks!
Thank you for speaking in R multiples!! When people say I made 30% from the buy point you have no clue where their risk was
Help a new trader out…what is the “R”?
It is your risk multiple. For example if you risk $10 and make $20 you just made 2R. Or if you risk $100 and make $300 you just made a 3R profit. @@bradenwalker6141
Really great point/observation by Matt on trading being a personalized endeavor, but that not really sinking in right away. I've been trading since 2020 and only now do I feel like I'm starting to understand what that truly means.
You got this Larz
Thank you so much for having Matt as a guess. He is great. 👍
Thanks for watching!
Very nice Video. Definitely has added value to my knowledge and management plan
Thanks for watching
This channel is very good, greetings from Argentina, thank you for sharing so much valuable content.
Our pleasure!
Very helpful as usual
i loved the interview ..
Glad you liked it!
Thanks again for this great interview. The right theme in the right time for me.
Glad you enjoyed it!
eventhough I trade only the Indian markets, I have been following him a lot and he's my favorite trader.
awesome
Just wondering why the Indian markets ?
Awesome interview, so aligns with my way of trading too.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great interview! Will you please ask Matt if he would hold or sell a position when an earning report is coming up?
This channel really is probably the best on YT.
You're too kind 💙
Great enlighting content Matt, i ll be following youfrom now
Awesome
This was excellent, thank you very much.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Amazing.... priceless knowledge
Matt did a great job!
I really wanted this. Thanks Moglen. I am a positional trader who becomes a swing trader on pullback and it really irritates me. This has been my biggest challenge along with increasing my position sizing. I always bet less than what I write down on paper.
Great info. Thank you guys. Just a question: what is 50bps position size as a percentage of the account? Got a little confused.
Thanks again!
Matt, do you use options or just cash/spot underlying, and do you hedge countertrend retracement?
Jessie Livermore once said it's the sitting and waiting that made the profits. It would be interesting to see the breakdown of the stats between his swing and position trades over the last 3yrs or so. How many R profit for each style. Please ask him😊
Great stuff. Also like the chart layout and colors very different from the basic red/green stuff.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Follow Matt Petrallia on Twitter/X: twitter.com/theEquilibrium
Learn directly from Matt: www.tradingequilibrium.com/
🕰 Timestamps 🕰
00:00 - Introducing Matt Petrallia
02:37 - Trade Alignment
11:20 - Creating Expectations
18:36 - Personalizing Trading System
26:14 - Swing Trading Rules & Expectations
32:45 - Paying Yourself on Winners
36:35 - Position Trading Rules & Expectations
40:41 - Position Trade Management
48:00 - 2023 Trading Results & Examples
53:26 - PLTR & PTX Trade Example
1:00:09 - SPOT, DKNG, NVDA Trade Examples
1:11:36 - AMD Deep Dive (Swing Trade)
1:27:43 - Closing Trading Advice
Nice interview...
Thanks
Another great podcast Richard
Glad you enjoyed it
You do great stuff and I appreciate it and I thank you for putting in the time and energy. If you could fix the TL RS indicator on Tradingview that would be awesome. Compare to IBD RS it's way off@@TraderLion
Such great content
Thank you
What platform does he trade on? What other tools, software or not, does he use? Thanks for your videos!
Excellent video presentation. In bull markets, I position trade ETFs in the strongest sectors. In choppy, and bear markets, I am mainly in cash until QQQ can recover above the rising 20-day EMA line. Does anyone in North America trade the ASX Australia stock market? I don't know of any trader or investor that does. I have never looked back since some years ago only exclusively trading the U.S. market.
Thank you!
Welcome!
Awesome. My portflio just went up by 20%.
Good to hear!
What other interview or video on position trading do you have?
Plenty! Many with legendary investors Stan Weinstein, Jim Roppel, and many other CANSLIM styled traders.
@@TraderLion thank you
Really good video (as always)! I don’t get the point when Mat says 10R o 5R, can anyone explain? Does he means that 1R is every 1$ risk, every 1$ profit? I don’t understand
1R has to do with risk. Say you set your stop at 4%, then 4% is equal to 1R. So, 2R is 8%. I learned this from Van Tharpe.
Thank you, that’s clear now
This guys is legit!!!
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When Matt talks about "R" what does he mean? Is it percentage return?
R multiples
R the multiplier refer to risk/stop. For example, he takes his first partial at 1-1.5R where R = risk/stop set at 2% for example. So Matt takes initial profit at 2% (1R) or 3% (1.5R) profit .
@@prettybird8942 Thanks!
a 10% stock gain is huge... waiting for 100% can lead to a loss (- return over longer time) (if you win,hey, you won)
I hope you interview people from all over the world, not just people in the USA. For example Türkiye or India. There are great traders in these countries too
We recently interviewed people from Greece, India ... If you have trader suggestions let us know
It'd be nice to know if the person on interview has been financially verified as profitable. As in they pay their bills with their trading earnings.
I’m going to be the first black trader on here
Dumb question. What is this R? He takes first partial at 1-1.5R.
No dumb questions! By R he means Risk as the % from his entry to his stop. If you’re risking 3% on the trade and the stock moves up 4.5% from your entry they say that’s 1.5R.
You should do a dark background on the videos. The white one puts way too much strain on the eyes
Noted!
👏👏😻👏
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is Matt verified profitable?
will head back to watch if verifed.
We’ve not verified any results from Matt, he’s a great trader and educator.
What Matt says comes only from a lot of real trading experience
Definitely
Good talk, but way too much repetition of each point
Repetition is good!
I learn everything from this channel thanks
Glad to hear it!
Bla bla bla .Enough with the vague claims. Please provide the actual trade details, including the date, size, and any other relevant information. Show us proof that you really made the trade. Anyone can look at a chart and say they bought or sold at a certain point. I need to see evidence before I can believe you.
If this isn't the strategy for you, that's fine! That's why we interview so many traders with different expertise 👍🏼
dude talks too much and hardly allows space to ask questions. main character energy.
Dude, is giving a presentation. 😂
@@rigo.garcia usually there’s more of a back and forth dialogue btwn the guests and host. Not here.
Great presentation
it’s because he’s giving a presentation. be thankful he’s even sharing what he knows