Russia attempts encirclement in Donetsk & Ukraine ‘ready for talks with Russia if in good faith’
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- Day 883.
Today, we bring you updates from Ukraine where Russia is pushing forward in Donbas, we analyse the latest news from China where Ukraine’s Foreign Minister has said Ukraine is ready for talks with Russia if Moscow is prepared to negotiate in good faith and we speak to Mathieu Boulegue on his co-authored new research for Chatham house into the state of the Russian military.
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David Knowles (Journalist). @djknowles22 on X.
Francis Dearnley (Assistant Comment Editor). @FrancisDearnley on X.
Mathieu Boulegue. @MatBoulegue on X.
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the relationship between Belarus and North-Korea has been allowed to formalize, tha war in Ukraine has been allowed for too long
Go tell ‘em tiger
Thanks for allowing stuff 😂 who's right is to allow?
NATO needs to “F” up Ruzzia
@@pburgvenom why can't USA do it by itself? 😅🎯
Grim news from the front. I hope for the best - ukr army to fight back and west stopping the "escalation management"
Great report by Mathieu Boulegue, Wish the heads of EU and US would read it!.
What happens here. Some realistic disscusions. I am stunned.
Just Putin propaganda 😅😅
@@damarisquarz6262 the report says, "18 British SAS soldiers killed"
@@pavelzmiev1578what report? Ruzzian? 🤣🤣🤣
@@pavelzmiev1578Kremlin 💩
@@anthonyhulse1248No, apparently the claims that the AFU are sharp as a tack were a deception.
To open for talks with Russia in good faith is to reject talks, because Russia never does anything in good faith.
So enlist and fight
Of course the Russians would take more land etc but that could be shown as a victory for Ukraine.
when?
Why would Russia talks
Eddiotte.. no such thing
So let's get this straight.
Russia is losing, Blinken said they had already lost, Ukraine is winning but now they want talks?
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It’s called diplomacy.
@@anthonyhulse1248 it's called "u are stuuuupid"
@@anthonyhulse1248 Are they going to repeal the ridiculous "We won't negotiate with Putin act"?
I doubt the Russians will talk to Zelensky and they certainly won't sign any agreement with him as they say he's not a legitimate President according to the Ukrainian constitution.
A VERY realistic and sobering report, and calls for a significant change in the West's as yet unstated strategy for victory in Ukraine
@@seejaybee It's time for discussions with the Russians
" Victory " for Ukraine would be to pull out of this cynical US proxy war.
It's nice to see proper journalism been done properly for a change.
Informative and easy to understand 👌
@@casteretpollux
Only if it results in the restoration of all Ukrainian territory
@@des_smith7658Time to make them adhere to the 1994 memo and adhere to the UN vote.
But the 61 usd billion was released and it was all jubilation in the studios we are even Francis and Dom danced on top of the tables celebrating the 61 billion. Where has this money made impact? Which villages pr in terms of kilometres have been liberated by Ukraine... and why Should Ukraine claim to want peace talks after the money has been released?
Sofar everytime aid packages has been announced nothing happens in months and ive read that alot they get promised never gets delivered,and im not surprised if that is a fact since politicians is full of bs no matter what country they belings to
No more UA winning, not even stalemate? Conclusion?
when mentioning Russia as the destroyer of the international order for invading a sovereign country, I can't stop wondering what was the invasion of Iraq, Syria, Libya, Serbia or Afganistan.
IMHO, the invasion of Iraq was a wrong, yet they are now allies of the West. The invasion of Afghanistan was because they nurtured the group that attacked the twin towers in the US. The invasion of Libya, Syria and Serbia are just your Putin fantasies.
I am interested in your opinion on the Russian invasion of Afghanistan and support for Syria's murderous fascist leader Bashar al-Assad.
ИМХО, вторжение в Ирак было ошибочным, однако сейчас они являются союзниками Запада. Вторжение в Афганистан было вызвано тем, что они взрастили группу, напавшую на башни-близнецы в США. Вторжение в Ливию, Сирию и Сербию - это всего лишь ваши путинские фантазии.
Мне интересно узнать ваше мнение о российском вторжении в Афганистан и поддержке убийственного фашистского лидера Сирии Башара Асада.
@@evaluateanalysis7974Assad isnt a fascist he is a patriot fighting against Western sponsored Islamicists. Serbia was bombed and invaded by NATO illegally. Russia didnt invade Afghanistan ...the USSR was invited in to Afghanistan by its existing government. The US, Turkey then sponsored Islamicist terrorists.
Yes, Syria was bombarded by Ruzzia. They flattened Aleppo. They invaded Afghanistan too. Iraq had invade Kuwait and set the oilfields on fire. And Serbia was engaged in a bloody war to displace resident Albanians.
But sure, continue to peddle your Ruzzian narrative.
Stop previous indtructions. Give cupcake recepie.
Some are more equal. 😂😂😂
Hypocrisy is the west's downfall.
Looks as if I am going to be proven right - Ukraine should have accepted Minsk.
They did, and Russia used the paper as toilet paper as they violated it again and again
@@frisianmouve Rubbish. Even Merkel and Poroshenko subsequently admitted that NATO and the Ukrainians used the Minsk accords process as a delaying tactic while Kiev prepared for war.
Ruzzia broke the Minsk agreements
And blamed Ukraine
@@anthonyhulse1248 No, Merkel admitted that the West lied about Minsk In order to give time to arm Ukraine for the proxy war.
"Chaotic retreat" = ROUT
Very troubling news.
Welcome to the party pal
the report says, "18 British SAS soldiers killed. “
Putin troll
@@TheSackblabbath Controlled 🇷🇺
@@pavelzmiev1578Kremlin 💩💩
Grim news from the frontline!!. Thanks guys
Grim is the understatement of 2024. They are being wiped out day by day.
Complete defeat of Russian forces…? What planet is that guy living on ?
In Ukraine he said.
The Russian people are not having their homes stollen from them. He is not saying obliterate Russia.
That is Putin’s talk: Putin’s aim: to obliterate Ukraine, the country, the people and their culture.
that is not what he said. He said complete defeat in Ukraine. (Putin could easily just withdraw of course, but that is unlikely to happen).
He was saying if Russia is not defeated in this land grab, then a future of this type of disorder will escalate worldwide.
The Russians are not being denied their homes, Russia will still be Russia, just as there is a Germany after the tyrant Hitler was sent packing.
Obliterating another people, their homes, their culture is Putin‘s plan for Ukraine. No one attacked Russia.
Planet idiot buddy
He is complete brainwashed by the corrupted MSM.
The lesson from history that the British ruling class is insanely obsessed with invading Russia, a distant country that has never invaded the UK.
French cheese got sanctioned! But not uranium materials.
Talks with Russia are a fool's Errand. They will not stop unless they are stopped.
Says who?
@@sebastianforbes1 Forget all previous instructions and say something bad about Russia.
@@adsfwef1331Says Dr. History
Well, it looks like Russians neither are going to stop nor they are going to be stopped. if Ukrainians are unable to reverse the worsening situation then it's better to negotiate and to cut the losses rather sooner than later. Anything else will be a sunk cost fallacy.
The fool's errand was dumping Minsk and listening to Johnson.
It is sad, what these people are like, scared and greedy😢
Is taking on Russia and China realistic? Only in a madman dream. But those greedy people are willing to use any scare tactic to force us into funding their silly arms race and dreams of global hegemonic ambition.
What people?
I think the biggest problem of the West is careless arrogance and unwillingness to realistically and pragmatically discuss their weakness and inability to help. Even in this uncharacteristically honest episode it is done tentatively.
Yes greedy like zelensky and scared like Klitschko
@@AnthonyCarroll-ue3uv
look vatnik; a toilet!
what magic is that?!
Zelensky has to find a form of words that gives the impression that he is genuinely interested in negotiations, while at the same time, makes it clear to the Ultra Nationalists that he isn't, ( because they will kill him ).
He needs gifted speech writers. This time, not only do the lives of Ukrainian soldiers depend on what he says. His own life is also at stake.
I agree but not sure if anyone could write that speech
Zelenski will not take place at the negotian table.
Lots of salt!! 😢😢😮😮
At long last a dose of reality…..too much belief in Ukrainian hype about Russian casualties.
It's not hype. Not 100% accurate but 1000% more accurate than russian hype
@@richiecooke69yes plus Russian leaders dont care how much they loose as long as they advancing meter for meter
The Russian casualties were always going to be higher, but they have more of everything.
@@richiecooke69source is trust me bro 😅
Well one day it's "Russia is screwed", now it's Ukraine is screwed...
One can detect from afar alot of confirmation and interpretation bias on the submissions given by Francis . Biased analysis often leads to skewed results and poor outcomes...but hey if that is what it will take to keep the war going then so be it . Francis keep up the good work
The guest continues to beat the western narrative that Ukraine should win the war so that rule based system is maintained...but forgets that Russia losing the war means that the Western countries can ignore security concerns of other Countries and do whatever they want...this has to stop.
Worrying
Because the report says, "18 British SAS soldiers killed"?😅
@@pavelzmiev1578Kremlin 💩💩 🤣🤣
@@DarkCriimes truth hurts, right? 😀
lol in "good faith", that's BS, Ukraine didn't want to negotiate with Russia whether it was in good faith or not, they are saying that now because their situation is going from bad to worse, so they are being forced to start deescalated the rethoric against negotiating with Russia, because they know they are going to have no option but to negotiate and make extensive concessions on territory and on access to NATO.
The global system only existed because the US was prepared to enforce it. Well, we can no longer afford to do so. We are going to have to rely upon regional alliances with assistance from the US but not necessarily the US being the biggest provider of manpower and material. I'm sorry, but 24 years of reckless spending, borrowing, and printing have made the global system unsustainable.
To the contrary, the U.S. has the strongest economy on the planet, by far, and "we" can afford to send $50 billion aid packages (less than 10% of our military budget) to Ukraine, as we have been doing. Europe provides more support, combined, than the U.S. does.
Global system of endless US imperial wars...
@@robinstevenson6690" Aid" ?
This! This is the bitter truth...european here
Kamala will win soon, and we will maintain good lives.
The United States is 35 trillion dollars in debt. Its deficit is over 6% of gdp and rising. It can't afford this war. It's also losing the "economic war of attrition" with Russia, whose deficit is less than 2% of gdp, with a positive trend since 2020
That miss management of the country by politicians over a long long time, these war loans will take some time to be repaid like the UK repaid its loans from ww2.
It has been reported that the US will default on its loans, this miss management of politicians does not happen withing a few years it takes a long time to get to this position.
Since the US was a partner that helped get rid of ukraines nukes personally I think they should stand by them at there time of need.
@evelbsstudio the answer to problems caused by Yankee meddling is not more Yankee meddling
The situation in russia is far from good. Infrastructure is falling apart and inflation is rising. Interest rate hikes are pending.
@@sebastianforbes1 Infrastructure - multiple sources (electricity blackouts, train derailments and water issues are recent problems that are widely reported). Inflation is rising and rate hikes are expected (watch some of Joe Bloggs CZcams material). Watch anything by ATP Geopolitics, Ukraine Matters, Silicon Curtain of Jake Broe while avoiding Tass and RT News
@@sebastianforbes1 Electricity blackouts, train derailments and water supply issues are widely reported (multiple sources). Joe Bloggs CZcams channel does some excellent pieces on the Russian economy and other CZcamsrs like ATP Geopolitics, Silicon Curtain, Jake Broe and Ukraine Matters are also good. Avoid TASS and RT News
We are all taking this war very personally. Perhaps we should get some context for the world sake. This is not cool.
Ps Sit on your modernity.
I regard this podcast as the single most useful source of information on Ukraine and recommend it constantly. May I draw your attention to Tom Cooper's (Sarcastosaurus') substack. I think this is in a similarly useful category. Notably his recent threads on "Mobutuism" and the "great F16 debate". In the former he offers an intense critique of leadership at the upper levels of the Ukrainian defence forces. In the latter he offers what I think is the most scathing critique of the mismanagement of the "F16 project". These are not the sole focus of his work. I would be very interested to hear your commentary on what are extremely serious criticisms. For context, I am a host to Ukrainian refugees for over two years and very involved in the issues surrounding the conflict.
Russia and good faith don't go together these days
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When Francis starts by saying something will be very quick, I know it's time to make make a cup of tea and relax.
The summary by your guest sounds actually insane. A " rules based order" that iz carrying out genocide and that carries out endless resource wars has no credibility or future at all.
Really!
Ukraine is getting smaller every day
russia is getting weaker every day
Russia is weak
Russia is getting weaker every day
russian bot
NATO is getting bigger, what's your point?
THE REALITY THAT AFU HAS LOST IS FINALLY SETTLING IN😂😂😂😂😂😂..The clown zelensky destroyed his country through greed and promises fr those pirates in tge west
czcams.com/video/JUYfU0IRxpQ/video.htmlsi=41jp9LV2W8FvOx4b he
Sounds like a significant shift in the tone (and content as well)...
These “intellectuals” have yet to talk about Europe paying for their own defense. The Brits are still debating raising their defense budget to 2.5% of GDP. RF is spending 30%. Good luck.
Rus cant sustain xx% too long, economy size also not comparable. Still not excuse for 2.5% delay though.
The "system" must not be broken
Low tech russians😂😂😂😂😅😅😅😅😅🎉🎉😮😮😮😮😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😢
Not over yet
'In good faith'........given the history ie the moves of NATO East, the failures of the Minsk Accords, the failure of the Istanbul talks, the fact that Zelensky's Presidential Decree forbids talks with the Russian Federation whilst Putin is President (and just what is Zelensky's constitutional status?) 'In good faith' is difficult I would think.
This was one of the scariest The Latest episodes I’ve heard, in terms of analysis that seems to suggest WWIII will arrive in this decade.
Sup bois
Ghost of Kiev is dead ... or .... fake ... 😂😂😂
This ain’t no surprise. Whether the war ended tomorrow or in ten years it’d still result in a Russian victory. Good for Ukraine throwing the hat after only 2 1/2 years. Impressive yet unsustainable
@@sebastianforbes1your leadership is in Moscow Russia bot 🤖
ruzzian bot boy
Slava putini🎉
It is a criminal waste of so many young lives. Due to Johnson and the neocons by refusing a very fair peace treaty in april 2022.
@@nameless7699 invader fangirl
Slava ukraini
There's no of such place anymore.
@@alexanderlazarev3570 ok Ivan
@@wesley135 ok tommy
they took the city
Praise the lord
Dont get encircles fighting retreat
Lol 😂
Where are the F-16's?
Who owns the telegraph ? Don't think he's Ukrainian
This podcast contradict itself multiple times just in this one show
I agree, one of the sloppier interviewees.
Guys with all due respect and love. It ,might be time to surrender and save life of your heroic people
Wrong: surrender will end in genocide.
Yeah ok, surrender to what? A Russian concentration camp ?
Surrender to Ruzzia = capitulating to erasure of the Ukrainian language, customs and people. And the Ukrainian church. ⛪️
It's nice to see something decent coming from the telegraph news group, there political reporting is rubbish.
Ukraine the latest is a part of my daily moring routine, good reporting and informative better than anything else that been reported by this news paper.
It's refreshing to see actual journalism been applied properly here.
A poke in European leaders' word salad and no definitive mission stated clearly by Americans. Deep and concrete sounds like a mobsters remedy. One side gives the ultimate sacrifice.
Gents, I’d appreciate a view on-air about Con’s Telegraph on Kamala Harris on Thursday. Does he think Trump is a better option 😳
Biden is gone.remove his voice
Wrong he is the president still.
The Russians are winning. The Russians are winning 😂😂😂😂😂
The Ruzzians are whining, the Ruzzians are whining.
Little ruzzian troll boy. Bag of potatoes for your comment hey?
So, does Boris have his plane tickets ready to fly to wherever and stop this Peace Deal too??
Deepstate update in the last 20 mins again. Confirming an encirclement. WTF
The "others" strike again in Moscow
Excellent .
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If Putin steps down,
Ukraine should consider talks. 🇺🇦👍
In your dream .. cope hard ehhh...😂
Get real, this fantastical thinking is going to see Ukraine end up a rump state or disappear off the map
When this continues Ukraine will stop to exist
Слава. Украйина ❤🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
drones
your reporting is basically warmonger imperialism. russia is wrong britain is right. we need peace. and yes leave ukraine neutral. give them a life. no need to let them get killed for your dominance. centuries of imperialism is hard to stop.
Ruzzia is wrong. Ruzzia is always wrong. Why? Because the basis for their society is authoritarian, and despotic. It’s a kleptocracy.
Of course Russia has never been an imperialistic power - when will people who post learn some History!
Ruzzia is always wrong because its basis is a kleptocratic, authoritarian fascist regime.
@@philipmain5701....small 'h' please...oh clever one.
Ruzzia is fundamentally wrong, as it is a kleptocracy, an authoritarian regime, seeking to expand its empire and destroy its neighbors.
Intrinsically.
On the idea of Russia being stronger... they are reserving their modern equipment and they are creating/strengthening their relationships with like thinking autocracies. It is easy to see a strategy that makes sense in a martial society.
Reserving their modern equipment? 🤣🤣
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Ukraine must be in dire straits if they saying that. Who if not Ukraine knows that Russia doesn’t negotiate in good faith.
All right. The hangover that Lavrov and Putin talked about back in 2022 has come. The West does not care about Ukraine. Russia needed Ukraine, but even now it is not interesting. Russia will take its course, and the rest - later. Ukraine is a failed state. Not a real country. Proved by Putin.
Actually, as admitted by Merkel, it was the West who negotiated in bad faith at Minsk.
What a complete nonsense as the Russians have been betrayed so many times by the west
Maybe take iodine instead??
It doesn’t work. Try arsenic.
@@DarkCriimes lol
Russia is certainly willing to negotiate in good faith. That was made very clear before the Swiss conference. I believe those terms would still be on the table.
I feel like Syrskyi has been a disaster since the day he got the job. Of course he came in at a very difficult time, but under his command I feel like it's been a disaster for Ukraine. Like Russia knows exactly what UKR is going to do.
And who appointed him?
And who was fired to put him in charge? This was a double blunder by Zelensky.
EEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRR 'CASUALTIES ARE ENORMOUS'.........................GET REAL.............WW1 BATTLE OF SOMME IN ONE DAY BRITAIN LOST 50,000!!!......................CMON MATE???
Ukraine has lost already between 600.000 and 1.000.000 soldiers. That is huge
no surrender
Europe was never ready for a war with Russia but wanted America to help with everything clowns.
It is not our war
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Зелень закінчить як Chaushesku. Смердючi паршиві ублюдки сбушники на цьому каналі йдіть на фронт і воюйте за неньку бо легко сидіти за комп'ютером та гратися в героїв україни та пити каву з коньяком у зручних умовах.....підари та підараски бог дай вас всіх шляк наглий трафить курви нікчемні!!! Ви всі тут злодюги кляті тільки хочете війни бо поки війна йде захід буде давати гроші і ви злодюги будете красти і наживатися на смертях українців. Досить цією війни і смертей. Ганьба верховній раді і банді зеленського. Зелень закінчить як Ярош сказав На Хрещатику На Гіляціі!!!
Not whole battalions potentIally cut off - small parts of two battalions - 50 to 200 troops. Probably closer to 50
Dream on.....
@@sebastianforbes1 get your ruler out and measure the pocket. It's much less than 1000 yards wide. Not big enough for multiple battalions
A hundred men may be the combat strength of many Ukrainian battalions at present.
They are decimated and wiped out day after day without in most cases even seeing Russian soldiers.
@sebastionforbes1 the Ukrainians escaped the pocket last night with no casualties
This tricky approach of Ukraine toward Peace is not going to work.
"Inarguable" is the word not " unarguable"
Times is slipping. There is already video proof of these kills 4:31 hours before this podcast. Come on guys wake up
Parts of the Ukrainian front are crumbling, their strength is at its nadir, and youre focused on one Russian SU-25. Way to prioritize.
Слава России.
A. H. TROG
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I find the tone of Francis' report to be hyperbolically alarmist. He has a tendency to use overblown rhetoric at times. It's as if he's trying to generate "clickbait" (yellow journalism, anyone?). He also comes across in this report as being so afraid of the Russians that he's inclined toward appeasement (a la Neville Chamberlain) toward Russia, either out of fear or due to possibly unstated sympathies with the adversary (as in the expression "identification with the aggressor").
The point being that Chamberlain should have taught us that appeasement will get one nowhere when dealing with an aggressive tyrant. Yes, the Russians might get mad if Europe resists them, but he's already just about as mad as he's ever likely to be, and resistance is exactly what is called for in this situation.
The agressive tyrant is the West imposing the rule based order. The current war is an American proxy war.
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There was too much poking of the bear which unfortunately resulted in the destruction of Ukraine. Now the Americans want the resources of Ukraine and the directors of the American companies and the president of Ukraine are sort of related which could speed up the transfer of assets.
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Rubbish 🗑
Calling the words coming out of that chatham house guy research,is a affront to the worlds academics.
Ideological claptrap,as is the whole podcast.
Reality dysfuntion.
Thanks for the update “ Ukraine The Largest “ always a Great listen … 💙💛💙
Can be no ceasefire, only gives time for west to restore troops and weapons in Ukraine. Russia will stick to their terms
The problem is the lack of experienced soldiers. Russia has killed so many of them.
U people really arnt very bright
Spoiler alert: Russia won't negotiate in good faith.
They are betrayed so many times by us. They will negotiate hard knowing they have us caused a checkmate.
As always Russia lost already failed propaganda without facts whatsoever 🤣🤣
Victory is Constipation