This is from a Steam review by user gamer_7601: "Let's get the things that the PlayStation does graphically better out of the way first: - Proper transparency effects (Saturn uses mesh transparency) - More detailed character shadows outside of battles (Saturn just uses a black circle). - Some spells have more complex effects. That should be pretty much it. Now the things that are worse on PlayStation: - Skyboxes have no textures. - There are a lot of distorted textures. - Water effects are simpler. - Character sprites are missing their right side. - Many ground textures have been simplified. Static shadows are often part of the ground texture, so they are mostly gone too. - Backgrounds used in battles have a much lower resolution."
I genuinely don't mind the Saturn having circle shadows outside of battles. I always thought it felt like the sun was moving violently in the PSX port because of how their shadows stayed in place, well in a battle scene, it makes a lot more sense that the shadows are visible where they are since the camera is fixated. And for every mesh effect nowadays, a nice composite bleed signal on real hardware or using Kronos on emulation nullifies these problems pretty fast.
At 2:38 the smoke transparency effect actually looks much better on the Saturn. It blends nicely with the level colors. On the playstation it looks like the alpha brightness is way too high, almost like it's in a lighting effect mode.
Sprites and 2D artwork hold up nicely even years later, so this game will always look good other than the 3D polygons used for buildings. However the Lunar games will always look better visually as the entire game is sprites and 2D artwork.
I prefer the Saturn version. The colors look blurry on PSX at times, whereas they actually seem to "pop" more on the Saturn. I also noticed a bit more animation with Sue when she was running through the town in the Saturn version. It just looked better, overall. The water animation on Saturn also contains some more detail. So glad the Saturn version was fully translated and can now be played via emulation (it uses the same official PSX English translation, but subtitles have been added to the animated cutscenes since the voices are obviously in Japanese). It truly is awesome! The PSX version will always hold a special place in my heart, but the Saturn version definitely wins here.
One of the advantage of the Saturn here is the use of the VDP2 for the floor. As a result it doesn't wiggle like the PS1 version which suffers of texture warping. Really noticeable during those 360 degrees camera rotations. A lot of the "line" on PS1 are not straight and wiggle. Both consoles suffer of those distortions on 3D objects like the houses or the crates though. Regarding shadows, the PSone has more dynamic shadows for characters where Saturn only have that black circle. On the other hand, the Saturn has shadows for the buildings, walls reflected on the ground.
Played thru this on Saturn many years ago. Recently played through the PS1 version, so I could play in english. Amazing game. I hope Saturn gets a fan translation of the game some day.
they are remastering this first Grandia game! it will have 16:9 option and they will use both psx and saturn sources to make this remaster ;-). Still unknown when it will be released but we can expect it any day!
Saturn seems have shadows from buildings, the psx version had none, also, if you look more carefully on the edges on certain given area, the psx version clearly had better overall AA (Anti-aliasing) quality. The Saturn version was the original, psx version is the ported version.
The floor for the town and every location was one big texture with baked in building shadows. The floor on ps1 is a set of repeated tiles. Even the roads make no sense.
@Butterstix2014 Must have been something to do with Saturn having more texture memory. Even the battle scenes and sprites had a higher resolution on the Saturn. Playstation maybe couldn't load enough different floor tiles into it's RAM for any one scene.
Just rewatched since the HD version is out now. Disappointed that they didn’t fix the floor. I know they said it was primarily based on the PS1 version, but they said they were modifying it to resemble the Saturn original.
+ peristrojka The characters on the PS1 version have proper shadows instead of circles underneath them, but the lack of building shadows makes a HUGE difference
I'm amazed that no one has taken and patched the Saturn version with the PS1 audio and text so that you could play the American version of the game on the Saturn.....
Saturn all the way. Duh! This videogame was created for Sega’s console and is clearly a labor of love. The PSX version is good, but lacks little details like shadows by the buildings snd the sensational VDP2 water effects. Background visuals in battle scenes are also slightly different. I also think the colors just pop a little more on Saturn. Again, not a huge difference, but it’s there.
I think the biggest draw towards the Saturn for me is that fact that it has the true 2D sprite aspect ratio and the PSX version is stretched out. The Playstation 3D models look a little nicer because of the better 3D architecture, but given it's about sprite detail for characters, Saturn wins hands down.
We would expect the 3D models to look better on the console with better 3D architechture, which (even if the Saturn was relatively more powerful) clearly describes the PS1. But, it doesn't seem to always be the case here, as the models seem to at least benefit from having straightened textures, no seams in between, and a higher resolution overall on the Saturn.
Saturn gets the better textures, PSX gets transparencies as opposed to meshes. Haven't played on PSX but I suspect the later parts of the game where there's lotsa things glowing and lotsa transparencies will look much better on the PSX.
Pay close attention to the texture of the ground on the PS1, huge lack of RAM compare to the original Saturn version and the texture have higher resolution and the framerate of the Sega Saturn is by far much better.
pretty close, but the Saturn looks sharper. IRL, the PS1 always had this blurriness about it. not to the extent the N64 did, but it was noticeable compared to the Saturn.
Melhor RPG de todos os tempos, joguei a versao do Saturn a exaustão, zerei várias vezes. Depois por curiosidade, joguei a versão do Ps1 e nao gostei, cortaram muitas coisas e compensaram no melhoramento das magias. A versao do Saturn é única, fizeram um milagre de programação para esse jogo, até as CGis eram lindas para os padrões do Saturn, com poucas granulações. Esse jogo merecia um remake, com gráficos atuais e resolução maior.
This is a game created with the 2 CPU's, so there is no surprise that the less powerful PSX can't handle some effects and framerate/resolution like the original Saturn version.
Saturn wins overall definitely but the polygon based stuff does look less jagged on PS1. But the better sprite work and higher res make up for that easily on Saturn.
The PS1 might have technically more impressive real-time shadows, but I actually prefer the Saturn's big bold circular shadows. If you ask me, the circular shadows just flow better with the sprites from a design perspective, being clear and readable as shadows. On the PS1, the shadows tend to get lost behind the sprites, and it just looks kind of like weird things jutting out of the sprites themselves.
What's funny is that the PS1 is only a half step to how shadows work making them seem more out of place. The shadows in that version rotate with the camera suggesting that the sun is fixed to its orientation, which is not accurate to life. The shadows from the Saturn version are a better abbreviation as opposed to drawing attention to a limitation.
The Sega version has better sprites because on the PSX version they used a filter to smoothen the pixelated look, which was a big mistake. But the PSX had the cabability of keeping that same pixelation.
Would like to see some "blind" comparisons or at least start the video without revealing which side is which, to see if people can tell which ones are which. Cool video though.
The PSX version seems to have better anti-aliasing. It's strange that the sprites also have proper shadows, but the buildings don't. Colors seem more washed out in the PSX version, but more bleedingly contrasty in the Saturn version. The sprites seem to be a higher resolution on Saturn. I feel like the PSX version is easier to look at, but the Saturn version has more details.
I do see differences but some stuff i like on the ps1 more than the saturn and vice versa. Plus there is no english version of the saturn version. Other than that no huge differences so i am happy with my ps1 copy. At least the ps1 port did not get completely ugly like Grandia 2 did for the ps2.
Em alguns momentos a versão Saturn parece ter mais elementos no cenário, em outros o PSX. Mas de um modo geral o jogo é melhor no Saturn mesmo. Esse game bateu de frente com FFVII e muita gente diz que é bem melhor que o game da Square. Essa conversão pra PSX chegou atrasada, mas deve ter vindo com alguns extras...
O jogo foi projetado para o Saturn é obvio que ia ficar melhor, a versão do PS1 é um porte, e em relação ao FF7 olha joguei ambos ,o sistema de batalha do Grandia é melhor, mas a história do FF7 está anos luz á frente de Grandia os personagens do Grandia são bem sem carisma não tem nem comparação com os do FF7, fora que o Grandia é um jogo mais curto que o FF7, em fim eu prefiro de longe o FF7 mas claro essa é a minha opinião.
@@true-omegaid8467 bate de frente com Square Enix, em termos de HISTÓRIA é covardia. Os caras são simplesmente geniais em termos de sofisticação do roteiro. Pergunto-me porque nenhum autor tentou fazer uma franquia de livros do FF. . Grandia 1 teve o objetivo de ser uma história bem mais leve, bem infanto-juvenil mesmo, nada tão complexo e sofisticado como o que a SE demonstra desde o FF1. . É bonito por ser simples.
@@augustosantos3302 é a historia é infanto-juvenil mas é inferior a do FF7 não adianta inventar desculpa, quem fez a comparação não fui eu, eu só respondi o comentário do cara acima, que fez a comparação.
Not trying to be a fan boy but I truly think Sega should of developed some friendly development tools for the developers and continue the fight with the saturn against the PS1 and N64 because when push hard the saturn could compete with both outright.
Acredito que o jogo seja melhor no Saturno pois foi projetado pra ele e depois de um tempo portado para o PS1 se fosse o oposto acredito em uma melhor versão no PS1 Mas nesse comparativo com certeza a melhor versão apresentada é no Sega Saturno
There's some gaming sites out there which visually compare the two versions of towns. Playstation's is simply a tiny repeating texture with no variation, covering the entire ground layer of the town. Saturn on the other hand, uses a far-higher-quality ground texture that is hand-crafted to fit around buildings, paths, and other objects. There's also a large grass portion that is completely absent on the Playstation version. It's all just a testament to how much more the Saturn could handle when it came to textures.
Wow..... the Saturn version actually beats the PS here.... more defined visuals and way more of a color pop on the Saturn!!! 👏👏👏 The Saturn clearly takes the win here in my book!!
Yep, Saturn beat Playstation much of the time. It's strange how often I see lgnorant normies who have no cIue how good the Saturn really was, so they just assume it was bad.
Faz uma outra comparação depois das batalhas das magias ali vc vê uma diferença melhor,zerei esse jogo 2x no Sega Saturn quando lançou e 1x no Playstation,um dos melhores RPGs que já joguei,muito melhor que FFVII,muito maneiro seu canal! ganhou um inscrito =]
Gabriel Dias os efeitos de água da versão saturno( que são os mesmos do Panzer Dragoon Zweii) deixam o Playstation no chinelo, mas nas batalhas play vence com efeitos de luz nas magoas, apesar das batalhas terem menos resolução que as de Saturno
O sistema de batalha de Grandia é seu ponto forte, mas a história dele é bem bobinha e o que ele mais peca é a falta de desafios ele tem poucas side quest e isso o FF7 deixa ele no chinelo.
Saturn is superior to Playstation for 3D Graphics and Audio standard in Duke Nukem, Exhumed, Last Bronx, Choro q, Burning Rangers, Ninpen, Nights, Panzer D. Saga, Anarchy in the Nippon, Grandia, Sport, or Resident Evil - Clockwork Knight 2 - etc on photorealistic look... Ps. for controller too.
eeeeh, the resident evil port for saturn honestly is way to inferior to ps1, plus the saturn controller is good for fighting games and some arcade games but not for action games
Takemetoaride Capcom didn't knew how to develop 3D for Saturn, so they ported pretty poorly the PSX version with not optimization at all, also they downgraded the graphics despite the fact that Saturn has way more powerful capabilities than PlayStation.
The Saturn's resident Evil Port is excellent, there some difference with the PS1 version. I don't think it's a superior version but it's definitly not an inferior one.
saturn all the way, lighter colours''as usual when something is compared to playstation consoles'' and less blurred textures. better use of 2d and just sharper overal, only thing playstation alsways have over sega saturn is transparancies.
Eh, I'm quite sure the transparency effects were just altered and "intensified" (i.e more transparent) in the PSX version. I'm not 100% sure, but from what I remember the Saturn has an easier time dealing with transparency effects. In the Saturn version you can see that the text box is transparent, but it is intensified in the PSX. PSX version also has different ground textures for some odd reason, both versions have the same style, but the layout is quite different. I think the Saturn version also has some textures that are just flat out better resolution-wise. The battles in the Saturn version aren't like the PSX version. The PSX version displays a 2D background, while the Saturn is either mostly or somewhat 3D. Battles just look a lot better on the Saturn, PSX version looks super bad, it's honestly my only gripe w/ the PSX version. From what I've seen of the Saturn version, it appears to be crisper and a tiny bit more vibrant. PSX version just flat out has some background elements missing (Clouds during the opening, see: 4:20 ... Lol, what a timestamp). The Saturn version's victory screen text box' looks a lot better imo. PSX version casts shadows more realistically in and out of battles on sprites, whereas the Saturn version only does so in battle. Saturn version casts shadows off of buildings, PSX version does not. I think the Saturn version has an overall more stable frame rate.
***** true, it could do it and in the hands of expoerts even very well. burning rangers is a technical marvel with the use of transparancies and guardian heroes also does it really nice. But with 2d the saturn owns all.
arjan snijder yeah, but Burning Rangers sacrified a los during the process because used transparencies by software rendering instead of taking advantage of the interpolation of VDP1 and VDP2.
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just different shadows, saturn with ambient occlussion and psx with accurate character shadows
Saturn has building shadows. PS1 has better character shadows and transparencies. Framerate is about the, a tad bit slower on the Saturn but almost identical in performance. Loading is better on PS1.
To all those people who say the textures in saturn version have higher resolution.. I ripped textures from both versions and they are exactly the same. Its just the way how both consoles handles their textures. Obviously the ps1 blurs their textures to have softer transitions. But the raws are the same
No, many textures on Saturn were indeed superior... this 100% depends on which textures you're looking at. Many textures were identical, while many others were more detailed and larger on Saturn. For example, the texture for the battle map was much lower res on the Playstation, which was very noticable. This is very well documented on various retro gaming sites.
Why did the ps1 and subsequent Switch remaster just fuck the floor tiles of the town up? Total random placement, looks like the town got wrecked by a giant toddler who doesn’t know how shapes go together 😂
LOL! Saturn beats PSX because shadows! :-) I can't decide what system outputs the better colours, though... I see a slight difference, but I don't know how to judge it.
Saturn seems a bit better but the whole point of this fantastic game and one of the best rpgs ever made,is that for us westerners the Psx version is the port we all played and the wanted one even today,since Saturn version is only in japanese language and that makes it unplayable for most of us. I wonder why they havent fan-translated yet,since all the english text is ready on the Psx version.
Saturn actually has shadows. Where were the Playstations shadows? I prefer the Saturn and it's one of my favorite systems, but the Playstation usually wins ,especially when it comes to transparencies, which the Saturn had a hard time doing. Although Burning Rangers did good using them
The Saturn shadows were pre-baked on the ground, which was manipolated by the 2d co-processor, in a kind of Mode7 available on the Saturn. On the PS1, it's all real-time 3d rendering by the CPU.
@@Hausbrauen You're Welcome! Many Homebrewers are discovering the Trade Secrets of the Saturn and how completely UNDERULITIZED the Hardware was. Its True Power was NEVER fully utilized. Saturn was Versatile and far more capable then people thing.
The Saturn version wins, although this opening might not be a good example of that. Clearly, the Saturn version's framerate is longer in this opening. It would've have been better to see the battle gameplay comparison, because that is where the Saturn version shines.
I think I would have been satisfied with either, but in this case, the Saturn seems to edge out, what with the buildings having shadows, and the slightly sharper, brighter textures. The PS has better character shadows, though.
saturn has shadows cast on the houses and buildings. In the PS1 they are completely removed. PS1 has better character shadow instead of a blob though. At 4:20 the sky is better in the saturn version and it has clouds.
A comparison that shows the ocean sections really shows how much better the Saturn version is. The water is all done using the Saturn's VDP2 chip and blows the PS1 port away.
A good game to show what could be done by the saturn with the right programmers.
This is from a Steam review by user gamer_7601:
"Let's get the things that the PlayStation does graphically better out of the way first:
- Proper transparency effects (Saturn uses mesh transparency)
- More detailed character shadows outside of battles (Saturn just uses a black circle).
- Some spells have more complex effects.
That should be pretty much it.
Now the things that are worse on PlayStation:
- Skyboxes have no textures.
- There are a lot of distorted textures.
- Water effects are simpler.
- Character sprites are missing their right side.
- Many ground textures have been simplified. Static shadows are often part of the ground texture, so they are mostly gone too.
- Backgrounds used in battles have a much lower resolution."
Thanks
I genuinely don't mind the Saturn having circle shadows outside of battles. I always thought it felt like the sun was moving violently in the PSX port because of how their shadows stayed in place, well in a battle scene, it makes a lot more sense that the shadows are visible where they are since the camera is fixated.
And for every mesh effect nowadays, a nice composite bleed signal on real hardware or using Kronos on emulation nullifies these problems pretty fast.
check the video again !! even ripped Saturn games the transparency looks amazing
At 2:38 the smoke transparency effect actually looks much better on the Saturn. It blends nicely with the level colors. On the playstation it looks like the alpha brightness is way too high, almost like it's in a lighting effect mode.
Such a beautiful RPG!!
Game Arts FTW!!
This is the best comment. Who's cares which is better? The game is just amazing!
Sprites and 2D artwork hold up nicely even years later, so this game will always look good other than the 3D polygons used for buildings. However the Lunar games will always look better visually as the entire game is sprites and 2D artwork.
I prefer the Saturn version. The colors look blurry on PSX at times, whereas they actually seem to "pop" more on the Saturn. I also noticed a bit more animation with Sue when she was running through the town in the Saturn version. It just looked better, overall. The water animation on Saturn also contains some more detail. So glad the Saturn version was fully translated and can now be played via emulation (it uses the same official PSX English translation, but subtitles have been added to the animated cutscenes since the voices are obviously in Japanese). It truly is awesome! The PSX version will always hold a special place in my heart, but the Saturn version definitely wins here.
🥺 y yo conformandome con una versión parcialmente traducida al español del psx😢
psx has some nice transparencies on the smoke and water but the saturn version has better 2d sprites and lighting.
It does?
no Saturn tem sombra, coisa que a versão do Ps1 não tem.
So true... only thing the PSX seems to be superior in, is the Frame Rate which does seem higher/smoother than in the Saturn Version
I have always wondered why the Saturn's lighting was so much more sophisticated than PSX. Compare Tomb Raider for an even better example.
@@YURIMAKERSTUDIOS do PlayStation tem sim.
One of the advantage of the Saturn here is the use of the VDP2 for the floor. As a result it doesn't wiggle like the PS1 version which suffers of texture warping. Really noticeable during those 360 degrees camera rotations. A lot of the "line" on PS1 are not straight and wiggle.
Both consoles suffer of those distortions on 3D objects like the houses or the crates though.
Regarding shadows, the PSone has more dynamic shadows for characters where Saturn only have that black circle. On the other hand, the Saturn has shadows for the buildings, walls reflected on the ground.
Also, the smoke from the factory building looks better on PS1.
There are minor differences, but on both consoles this game is great!
Played thru this on Saturn many years ago. Recently played through the PS1 version, so I could play in english. Amazing game. I hope Saturn gets a fan translation of the game some day.
they are remastering this first Grandia game! it will have 16:9 option and they will use both psx and saturn sources to make this remaster ;-). Still unknown when it will be released but we can expect it any day!
Saturn does have a translation
@@capcom23 so that was a lie :(
@@TheNameIsSR I don't think it was. Grandia HD Remaster was released for PC in October 2019.
@@maxducoudray and it arguably the worst version of them all.
i really love this game, i have finished it for 3 times and still very miss this game even now.
SEGA SATURN is the best version.
I must go where the translations go.
Saturn seems have shadows from buildings, the psx version had none, also, if you look more carefully on the edges on certain given area, the psx version clearly had better overall AA (Anti-aliasing) quality.
The Saturn version was the original, psx version is the ported version.
The floor for the town and every location was one big texture with baked in building shadows. The floor on ps1 is a set of repeated tiles. Even the roads make no sense.
@@adamberthiaume309 It’s so weird, couldn’t they have just split the big floor tiles into smaller textures? That’s what I kinda think.
@Butterstix2014 Must have been something to do with Saturn having more texture memory. Even the battle scenes and sprites had a higher resolution on the Saturn. Playstation maybe couldn't load enough different floor tiles into it's RAM for any one scene.
Just rewatched since the HD version is out now. Disappointed that they didn’t fix the floor. I know they said it was primarily based on the PS1 version, but they said they were modifying it to resemble the Saturn original.
I hear Saturn games are difficult to port, so that's probably why.
Saturn version the buildings have shades, Ps version not.
+ peristrojka The characters on the PS1 version have proper shadows instead of circles underneath them, but the lack of building shadows makes a HUGE difference
also has higher resolution, look at the black borders on the psx port.
I think that's because all Saturn games had to have a weird resolution.
@@mopeybloke nothing weird about it, just higher than your typical PS1 game.
They both look really nice. I think the Saturn version looks better overall.
I'm amazed that no one has taken and patched the Saturn version with the PS1 audio and text so that you could play the American version of the game on the Saturn.....
Atleast a remaster is coming now!
Saturn all the way. Duh! This videogame was created for Sega’s console and is clearly a labor of love. The PSX version is good, but lacks little details like shadows by the buildings snd the sensational VDP2 water effects. Background visuals in battle scenes are also slightly different. I also think the colors just pop a little more on Saturn. Again, not a huge difference, but it’s there.
I think the biggest draw towards the Saturn for me is that fact that it has the true 2D sprite aspect ratio and the PSX version is stretched out. The Playstation 3D models look a little nicer because of the better 3D architecture, but given it's about sprite detail for characters, Saturn wins hands down.
We would expect the 3D models to look better on the console with better 3D architechture, which (even if the Saturn was relatively more powerful) clearly describes the PS1. But, it doesn't seem to always be the case here, as the models seem to at least benefit from having straightened textures, no seams in between, and a higher resolution overall on the Saturn.
The Saturn one looks better.
Saturn gets the better textures, PSX gets transparencies as opposed to meshes. Haven't played on PSX but I suspect the later parts of the game where there's lotsa things glowing and lotsa transparencies will look much better on the PSX.
Pay close attention to the texture of the ground on the PS1, huge lack of RAM compare to the original Saturn version and the texture have higher resolution and the framerate of the Sega Saturn is by far much better.
your a god for doing this I was just looking into this now and said "Nah no one made a comparison of the two" you proved me wrong
pretty close, but the Saturn looks sharper.
IRL, the PS1 always had this blurriness about it. not to the extent the N64 did, but it was noticeable compared to the Saturn.
Melhor RPG de todos os tempos, joguei a versao do Saturn a exaustão, zerei várias vezes. Depois por curiosidade, joguei a versão do Ps1 e nao gostei, cortaram muitas coisas e compensaram no melhoramento das magias. A versao do Saturn é única, fizeram um milagre de programação para esse jogo, até as CGis eram lindas para os padrões do Saturn, com poucas granulações. Esse jogo merecia um remake, com gráficos atuais e resolução maior.
Acho Grandia melhor que Chrono Trigger.
Vai sair REMAKE, vim aqui te dizer!!!!! =D
@@DhinCardoso Valeu. Tivemos um remaster baseada na versão do Ps1.
@@true-omegaid8467 Discutível.
@@lucasrinaldi9909 o sistema de batalha do Grandia é bem melhor que do CT, e lembrando que é a minha opinião não é a verdade absoluta.
This is a game created with the 2 CPU's, so there is no surprise that the less powerful PSX can't handle some effects and framerate/resolution like the original Saturn version.
Saturn wins overall definitely but the polygon based stuff does look less jagged on PS1. But the better sprite work and higher res make up for that easily on Saturn.
The lighting and colors of the Saturn version are better in building an immersive atmosphere.
I wouldn't mind seeing the Saturn version being put out on PSN, the X-Box Marketplace or the Nintendo store
The PS1 might have technically more impressive real-time shadows, but I actually prefer the Saturn's big bold circular shadows.
If you ask me, the circular shadows just flow better with the sprites from a design perspective, being clear and readable as shadows.
On the PS1, the shadows tend to get lost behind the sprites, and it just looks kind of like weird things jutting out of the sprites themselves.
What's funny is that the PS1 is only a half step to how shadows work making them seem more out of place. The shadows in that version rotate with the camera suggesting that the sun is fixed to its orientation, which is not accurate to life. The shadows from the Saturn version are a better abbreviation as opposed to drawing attention to a limitation.
i 100% agree, were going for animated fantasy look, not hyper realism. the shadows being character accurate n proportionate feel totally out of place
Which version has more content? i dont care about the graphics.
It looks fine on both. Which has more content?
I also noticed background clouds that are present in the Saturn version that's missing on the PlayStation version towards the end of the video.
Saturn version has a higher resolution. Just look at the sharpness of the text.
And everything else.
PSX no tiene sombras en el mapeado, pero los personajes tienen sombras detalladas mientras que en Saturn son redondas.
Saturn, no doubt about it. Saturn is a 2D 2.5D powerhouse.
Saturn was really something in those times
Also the ground in the first city is better textured in Saturn version. In ps1, texture are repetitive, and confusing for the orientation.
And we can see the texture layout in PS1 manual game.
and switch remaster dindn't took the Saturn textures.
The Sega version has better sprites because on the PSX version they used a filter to smoothen the pixelated look, which was a big mistake. But the PSX had the cabability of keeping that same pixelation.
Wow the sprites are way less blurry on Saturn
Would like to see some "blind" comparisons or at least start the video without revealing which side is which, to see if people can tell which ones are which. Cool video though.
WOW! This is a great idea!!
Very easy with this game, building shadows on Saturn and transparencies on PlayStation.
another example of the Saturn superiority over PSX. This is clearly using the 2 CPU's and the effects missing on the PSX port really showed that.
The PSX version seems to have better anti-aliasing. It's strange that the sprites also have proper shadows, but the buildings don't. Colors seem more washed out in the PSX version, but more bleedingly contrasty in the Saturn version. The sprites seem to be a higher resolution on Saturn. I feel like the PSX version is easier to look at, but the Saturn version has more details.
I do see differences but some stuff i like on the ps1 more than the saturn and vice versa. Plus there is no english version of the saturn version. Other than that no huge differences so i am happy with my ps1 copy. At least the ps1 port did not get completely ugly like Grandia 2 did for the ps2.
You're kidding me! The ENTIRE GROUND is misaligned?!
never had a ps1? polygon warpIng was very common
@@reservoirdog1 That's not polygon warping, that's the texture entirely misplaced. It's not even close to the same thing.
プレステ版のがポリゴン自体はきれいだけど、サターン版の方が2Dキャラの表示が全体的にクリア、建物の影の表現がしっかり出てる。
やはりサターンのが好きだ‼
Em alguns momentos a versão Saturn parece ter mais elementos no cenário, em outros o PSX. Mas de um modo geral o jogo é melhor no Saturn mesmo. Esse game bateu de frente com FFVII e muita gente diz que é bem melhor que o game da Square.
Essa conversão pra PSX chegou atrasada, mas deve ter vindo com alguns extras...
O jogo foi projetado para o Saturn é obvio que ia ficar melhor, a versão do PS1 é um porte, e em relação ao FF7 olha joguei ambos ,o sistema de batalha do Grandia é melhor, mas a história do FF7 está anos luz á frente de Grandia os personagens do Grandia são bem sem carisma não tem nem comparação com os do FF7, fora que o Grandia é um jogo mais curto que o FF7, em fim eu prefiro de longe o FF7 mas claro essa é a minha opinião.
Baita jogo, pra mim o melhor do ps1, história desenvolvimento, cenas engraçadas , pena q eh curto mas vale mt a pena
@@true-omegaid8467 bate de frente com Square Enix, em termos de HISTÓRIA é covardia. Os caras são simplesmente geniais em termos de sofisticação do roteiro. Pergunto-me porque nenhum autor tentou fazer uma franquia de livros do FF.
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Grandia 1 teve o objetivo de ser uma história bem mais leve, bem infanto-juvenil mesmo, nada tão complexo e sofisticado como o que a SE demonstra desde o FF1.
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É bonito por ser simples.
@@augustosantos3302 é a historia é infanto-juvenil mas é inferior a do FF7 não adianta inventar desculpa, quem fez a comparação não fui eu, eu só respondi o comentário do cara acima, que fez a comparação.
@@true-omegaid8467 sim, vc repetiu o que eu disse com outras palavras.
Mesmo com suas limitações p/ o 3d o Sega Satunr ainda fez bonito neste jogo
it sucks this game never had a translation on saturn :(
IKR
what?? :P
It does now!
Someone's working on it now
It's done
Higher resolution on the Saturn version or so it seems.
You are correct!
Not trying to be a fan boy but I truly think Sega should of developed some friendly development tools for the developers and continue the fight with the saturn against the PS1 and N64 because when push hard the saturn could compete with both outright.
Sega was the first to leave Saturn when she decided that her future was in the Dreamcast. He died very early from Sega's incompetence.
Really hoping the HD remaster is a combination of the better colors/shadows from the saturn version and the transparency from the PS1
Acredito que o jogo seja melhor no Saturno pois foi projetado pra ele e depois de um tempo portado para o PS1 se fosse o oposto acredito em uma melhor versão no PS1
Mas nesse comparativo com certeza a melhor versão apresentada é no Sega Saturno
The new re-release of Grandia coming soon will Utilize both PlayStation and Sega Saturn source code.
exactly
To bad it din't :'(
A shame this hd re-release turned out being terribIe. The original on Saturn is still the best version to date.
John Linneman exaggerated quite a bit, the Saturn version does looks better, but the PSX is no where near as bad as he made it out to be.
Deveria ter feito ao menos uma batalha pra mostrar as diferenças.
Verdade amigo, falou tudo!
I remebered that voice acting was terrible in the US version. Either way the gameplay is great for classic psx rpg back in the day.
Why is ground texture in Playstation version is all out of allignment?
I'm just guessing that the architecture required textures to be used a bit differently.
There's some gaming sites out there which visually compare the two versions of towns. Playstation's is simply a tiny repeating texture with no variation, covering the entire ground layer of the town. Saturn on the other hand, uses a far-higher-quality ground texture that is hand-crafted to fit around buildings, paths, and other objects. There's also a large grass portion that is completely absent on the Playstation version. It's all just a testament to how much more the Saturn could handle when it came to textures.
Wow..... the Saturn version actually beats the PS here.... more defined visuals and way more of a color pop on the Saturn!!! 👏👏👏 The Saturn clearly takes the win here in my book!!
Well it is the original version
Yep, Saturn beat Playstation much of the time. It's strange how often I see lgnorant normies who have no cIue how good the Saturn really was, so they just assume it was bad.
Saturn is sharper, and from 4.11 on you can see the polys showing white lines between two poly's which is absent with the original.
Saturn Wins nas mãos certas este console produzia maravilhas, meu console favorito.
Sega looks so much better
Not surprisingly the psx looks better for the 3D and the Saturn for the 2D
Im wondering why they changed the streets between versions
Saturn VDP2 extra processor was better suited to handle ground and sky textures than the PS which lacked parallel processing...
porque sera que todo en ps1 se ve mas borroso, incluso las texturas de los modelos 3d
vote goes to the Saturn it looks amazing !! Playstation verson everything looks worse
Não mãos certas saia maravilhas para o Saturn, esse é um grande exemplo!
Saturn a touch sharper
+Kevin Christensen It probably has to do with the capture. In RGB the PS1 version looks razor sharp, just like the saturn version.
Faz uma outra comparação depois das batalhas das magias
ali vc vê uma diferença melhor,zerei esse jogo 2x no Sega Saturn quando lançou e 1x no Playstation,um dos melhores RPGs que já joguei,muito melhor que FFVII,muito maneiro seu canal! ganhou um inscrito =]
+Gabriel Dias blz, farei sim depois ^^, e tb acho o Grandia mais divertido e imersivo que o FFVII :P
Gabriel Dias os efeitos de água da versão saturno( que são os mesmos do Panzer Dragoon Zweii) deixam o Playstation no chinelo, mas nas batalhas play vence com efeitos de luz nas magoas, apesar das batalhas terem menos resolução que as de Saturno
O Grandia do Saturn era só JP ou tinha Americano tbm?
O sistema de batalha de Grandia é seu ponto forte, mas a história dele é bem bobinha e o que ele mais peca é a falta de desafios ele tem poucas side quest e isso o FF7 deixa ele no chinelo.
A única coisa em que Final Fantasy VII perde para Grandia é ser um RPG com sprites e cenários em 3D. E se quiser jogar um, melhor jogar Xenogears.
Saturn is superior to Playstation for 3D Graphics and Audio standard in Duke Nukem, Exhumed, Last Bronx, Choro q, Burning Rangers, Ninpen, Nights, Panzer D. Saga, Anarchy in the Nippon, Grandia, Sport, or Resident Evil - Clockwork Knight 2 - etc on photorealistic look... Ps. for controller too.
eeeeh, the resident evil port for saturn honestly is way to inferior to ps1, plus the saturn controller is good for fighting games and some arcade games but not for action games
Takemetoaride Capcom didn't knew how to develop 3D for Saturn, so they ported pretty poorly the PSX version with not optimization at all, also they downgraded the graphics despite the fact that Saturn has way more powerful capabilities than PlayStation.
The Saturn's resident Evil Port is excellent, there some difference with the PS1 version. I don't think it's a superior version but it's definitly not an inferior one.
Honestly they didn't take full advantage of ps1. Look at ff9 and chrono cross
could you do *Trash It* comparison please
saturn all the way, lighter colours''as usual when something is compared to playstation consoles'' and less blurred textures. better use of 2d and just sharper overal, only thing playstation alsways have over sega saturn is transparancies.
Eh, I'm quite sure the transparency effects were just altered and "intensified" (i.e more transparent) in the PSX version. I'm not 100% sure, but from what I remember the Saturn has an easier time dealing with transparency effects.
In the Saturn version you can see that the text box is transparent, but it is intensified in the PSX.
PSX version also has different ground textures for some odd reason, both versions have the same style, but the layout is quite different. I think the Saturn version also has some textures that are just flat out better resolution-wise.
The battles in the Saturn version aren't like the PSX version. The PSX version displays a 2D background, while the Saturn is either mostly or somewhat 3D. Battles just look a lot better on the Saturn, PSX version looks super bad, it's honestly my only gripe w/ the PSX version.
From what I've seen of the Saturn version, it appears to be crisper and a tiny bit more vibrant.
PSX version just flat out has some background elements missing (Clouds during the opening, see: 4:20 ... Lol, what a timestamp).
The Saturn version's victory screen text box' looks a lot better imo.
PSX version casts shadows more realistically in and out of battles on sprites, whereas the Saturn version only does so in battle.
Saturn version casts shadows off of buildings, PSX version does not.
I think the Saturn version has an overall more stable frame rate.
saturn still is a mighty console ^^.
The saturn has problems displaying transparencies, but it's still a mighty 2D powerhouse in it's time
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true, it could do it and in the hands of expoerts even very well. burning rangers is a technical marvel with the use of transparancies and guardian heroes also does it really nice. But with 2d the saturn owns all.
arjan snijder yeah, but Burning Rangers sacrified a los during the process because used transparencies by software rendering instead of taking advantage of the interpolation of VDP1 and VDP2.
just different shadows, saturn with ambient occlussion and psx with accurate character shadows
There wasn't ambient occlusion in 1997
BOOM!
Saturn has building shadows.
PS1 has better character shadows and transparencies.
Framerate is about the, a tad bit slower on the Saturn but almost identical in performance.
Loading is better on PS1.
I think you mean that the other way around. The Saturn loads about 5 seconds faster
Wow, the PlayStation's version takes so long to load... 😅
Sei que o Playstation 1 foi um console melhor, mas quem sabia trabalhar no Saturn, extraia o que o PSX não podia fazer.
Vc decide, depois faz o Grandia 2, versão Dream cast vs ps2! O Dream vai arrebentar.
A simple vista parecen muy similares. Al entrar en detalles, la versión de Saturn es superior.
it's me or many pixel on support saturn ?
so many different!
Saturn is better, because it's sharper.
Saturn looks sharper
To all those people who say the textures in saturn version have higher resolution.. I ripped textures from both versions and they are exactly the same. Its just the way how both consoles handles their textures. Obviously the ps1 blurs their textures to have softer transitions. But the raws are the same
No, many textures on Saturn were indeed superior... this 100% depends on which textures you're looking at. Many textures were identical, while many others were more detailed and larger on Saturn. For example, the texture for the battle map was much lower res on the Playstation, which was very noticable. This is very well documented on various retro gaming sites.
My favorite rpg in the world.
Saturn have clouds 4:22
That day was clear in the PSX version
@@maxidiaz8729 lol! nice save
Why did the ps1 and subsequent Switch remaster just fuck the floor tiles of the town up? Total random placement, looks like the town got wrecked by a giant toddler who doesn’t know how shapes go together 😂
Os gráficos 3d do PlayStation são ligeiramente mais limpos e com cores vivas
LOL! Saturn beats PSX because shadows! :-) I can't decide what system outputs the better colours, though... I see a slight difference, but I don't know how to judge it.
The ps version shadow has been removed..
Saturn seems a bit better but the whole point of this fantastic game and one of the best rpgs ever made,is that for us westerners the Psx version is the port we all played and the wanted one even today,since Saturn version is only in japanese language and that makes it unplayable for most of us.
I wonder why they havent fan-translated yet,since all the english text is ready on the Psx version.
they have english dub version though... JP voices with English subs.....go search undub grandia
Saturn actually has shadows. Where were the Playstations shadows? I prefer the Saturn and it's one of my favorite systems, but the Playstation usually wins ,especially when it comes to transparencies, which the Saturn had a hard time doing. Although Burning Rangers did good using them
The Saturn shadows were pre-baked on the ground, which was manipolated by the 2d co-processor, in a kind of Mode7 available on the Saturn. On the PS1, it's all real-time 3d rendering by the CPU.
Gabriele Riva aah. Good info there. Love my Saturn though. Seems like Blazing Rangers Did a great Job With the Saturn hardware.
Nope. The PS1 is using a phony dither shadow effect. Saturn is using actual shading and Dithers.
@@Tornado1994 ^ This... thank you. It's amazing how much lgnorance there is out there, people not having a cIue how good the Saturn actually was.
@@Hausbrauen You're Welcome! Many Homebrewers are discovering the Trade Secrets of the Saturn and how completely UNDERULITIZED the Hardware was. Its True Power was NEVER fully utilized. Saturn was Versatile and far more capable then people thing.
The Psx version looks better than Saturn. I enjoyed this game on Psx.
psx missing ground textures, good smog effects from chimneys, a sky box, shadows and lower quality blurring sprites. ok
And drops fps
if you like unfinished game ....
Because it's the version you're most used to -- aka nostalgia.
You can finally buy the Sega Saturn English translation on Etsy RIGHT NOW! I sure did.
Got mine there too. Love Etsy for that stuff. Got shining force 3 and dragon force 2 translation there also.
V-Slash!
The Saturn version wins, although this opening might not be a good example of that. Clearly, the Saturn version's framerate is longer in this opening. It would've have been better to see the battle gameplay comparison, because that is where the Saturn version shines.
I think I would have been satisfied with either, but in this case, the Saturn seems to edge out, what with the buildings having shadows, and the slightly sharper, brighter textures. The PS has better character shadows, though.
Saturn. Hands down.
Deadly even versions.
saturn has shadows cast on the houses and buildings. In the PS1 they are completely removed. PS1 has better character shadow instead of a blob though.
At 4:20 the sky is better in the saturn version and it has clouds.
Nah. This video doesn't show the battle screens. They look better on Saturn.
A comparison that shows the ocean sections really shows how much better the Saturn version is. The water is all done using the Saturn's VDP2 chip and blows the PS1 port away.
Saturn ver look better
Already play the Saturn Versión After Years... and PSX is a fake success... if only Sega Japan had the brain... in time.
A Versão Sega Saturn parece ter mais efeitos de sombra
Saturn vers. wayyy better. better lighting, shading, and the ground texure is placed wrong in PSX vers.
The differences are almost non existent, seems this was done well on both consoles.