Bill Simmons Reaction To Nets-Celtics Trade
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I get why Simmons hated this trade, he wanted to see Pierce and Garnett end their careers with the celtics, but the celtics won this trade by a huge margin.
+Daniel Connell I think his gut, knee-jerk reaction was based on that; it was an emotional reaction to seeing key players of his team leave, guys whose numbers will be retired finish their career out with another team, particularly Pierce. I think that had he been given more time to process it, after he got over that initial disappointment of discovering that Pierce would not finish his career having only played for one team, he would've been much more excited about the trade, and seen how smart of a trade it was.
Certainly he's loving it now; not sure how long it took for him to come around, but I imagine that most of his not liking the trade dissipated quickly and that after a few days of processing that Pierce wouldn't retire as a career Celtic, he came around.
It was bad analysis by Simmons. he didn't even consider the scant year left on PP's contract. Too emotional a response.
Daniel Connell Well of course
Hindsight is 20/20
@Beastplant1 17 championships
I would say they have a winning culture.
"There is no guarantee that those picks are lottery picks"
Little did he know
lmao how wrong he was
@@Ryandupont0896 so there was a guarantee?
Ryan Dupont 0 wrong, lmao
He was correct at the time
FREDOsauxce WRONG
To be fair, this trade didn’t mention the endless amount of pick swaps and lack of protections the Nets included
honestly, that was the part that KILLED us (us = nets)
What Bill actually meant was "35 DOLLARS on the dollar."
C.I. DeMann 😂😂😂😂
And now, this could be the trade that brings Boston back to glory. All of those picks will be good lotto picks.
tfisk91 Unfortunately, they won't go back to their glory days too quickly since all of the players they can take are guards I think, no Centers / Power Forwards. =(
Should have traded for Cousins (watch him break his leg and retire in a year or two and me be wrong like Simmons).
+MYFAVORITES5 who knows man. we can draft fultz in a couple months and IT might walk if the contract talks aren't great in 2018. can't forget about Michael porter jr in 2018 as well
Ryan Dupont get fultz sign Hayward keep IT get a another top 3 draft a big maybe = boom dynasty
Maybe jaylen brown develops as well
tfisk91
Marcus Smart was the first pick(kind of been average, maybe needs more time as a starting PG, still young)
Then Jaylen Brown(has shown some flashes, super athletic, has great potential, too soon to say anything)
Now either Fultz/Ball/Josh Jackson(all three of these guys have superstar potential)
Boston clearly won this trade.
And in about 4-5 years we could really be saying the Nets got robbed.
That is why Boston will probably hold on to their picks. Why trade them for Butler or PG right now?
Keep in mind they have the nets pick next year too.
Boston could have four top 5 picks on the same roster in 5 years. (history shows it takes 4-5 years for a player to enter their prime)
Also keep in mind that Brad Stevens could be Gregg Popovich 2.0
Exactly! Boston has to keep their picks, not buying into these immediate-win-now types of trades that'll take them nowhere. They have such an incredible future ahead of them, with a possible Brown/Fultz/Porter Jr. (or Bamba, or Ayton, or...) roster that could turn out to be a future dynasty. *Just a little correction, the player selected at the 2014 draft with the Nets pick wasn't Smart at 6th (that was Boston's pick) but James Young at 17th.
Back when 3 for 30 million was a “
Big “contract
Now mfs not touching the floor every night pulling that in
Well it never was and still don't is about the total amount a player gets over the whole span of his contract. It's about the percentual yearly amount of the salary cap he receives or at least the yearly dollar amount.
Gerald Wallace was a bench warmer tho
At that point in his carrer
@@lilgucci6847 Gerald Wallace honestly was nice around this time and the contract was more than justified when he got it. Bill just shits on every Celtic that isn’t a superstar not making the minimum
The best part here is Bill saying OKC getting a disappointing Number 12 pick and that turns out to be Steven fucking Adams who now is regarded by many as the second or third best player from the 2013 draft. Fate did Bill Simmons in so many dirty ways lol.
Karthik Thiagarajan who is this many person
lol
Steven Adams is like the 6th or 7th best player from the 2013 draft...
Steven Adams is a terrible on offense can't score for shit
Rather have Adams or harden?
Just think Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown on the Nets...
And they would’ve had probably still got Dlo from the Lakers and then Probably still had cap space for KD or Kyrie
You think the Nets would be smart enough to pick Tatum and Brown? More like Marquelle Fultz and Dragan Bender.
@Benjamin Pease lmao yes
would rather KD and Kyrie
@@LOB.Keem14 no wouldnt have been able to have all 4 on salary, Taytum and Brown are looking for max money right now
The nets fucked themselves over for this trade.
True
This was such a great move by Danny Ainge. Got value for aging players and draft capital to reload.
In the late 1980s Celtics GM Red Auerbach had chances to possibly trade away Bird, McHale, or Parrish, who were near past their primes, and later regretted not pulling the trigger. Danny Ainge was a player on the Celtics then and learned that hard lesson.
What really killed the Celtics was Len Bias and Reggie Lewis dying. Those two would have been the equivalent of what Tatum and Brown are for us now for the next decade.
He has no clue how wrong he was
D E everyone should of known like come on you really gonna cut your future for some old guys
So easy to talk in hindsight.
Nobody predicted the Nets to become this bad this quick.
They were a playoff team, then Deron Williams disapeared, he went from being discussed as one of the best PG in the league to a scrub with no warnings.
They were close to a contender and thought that adding veterans could help them.
D E Nets were good in 2015 too
That nets team fell apart in spectacular fashion. Given thr legacy factor and what we knew about prokorov and the nets at the time, the assessment of the trade was pretty fair
His take was more on the emotional side dude always been a celtics fan to see pierce walk after 15 years with eh squad has to suck. It would've been like if dirk although a better player than pierce got traded
Only person I recall who liked the trade for the Celtics was Charles Barkley. Said Danny Ainge got away with murder
I don't like the trade lmao.. its the most one sided trade in history. Boston ripped the nets heart out
one of the worst trades of all time. whats crazier about this trade is the fact that the biggest impact felt from it might not be for another decade from now in the case the players we drafted turn into stars or better
Tren Clen back then it looked alright. hindsight 20/20 now.
metalsquirrelgamer an average team getting washed up players and giving up 3 first rounders!!! I guess you didn't think the nets would be this bad where it had the most lottery chances but still terrible
Ryan Dupont nah nets will be pretty good now
@@ryanelkadi3196 due to free agency, nothing to do with this trade moron.
In fairness to Bill, they didn't mention the 3 pick swaps which ended up being HUGE. Also there was no way to know Prokorov would sell the team 2 years into this massive investment.
Jayson Tatum is shaking his head
cause KD and kyrie are in his division?
Why?
The current iteration of the Boston Celtics made it to the NBA Finals all thank to Billy King. Lol
In 2013, Danny Ainge traded Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, Jason Terry and D.J. White to the Brooklyn Nets in exchange for Kris Humphries, Gerald Wallace, MarShon Brooks, Kris Joseph, Keith Bogans and three first-round picks, which were from 2014, 2016, and 2018, plus the right to swap first-round picks in 2017. The 2014, 2016, and 2018 picks became James Young, Jaylen Brown, and Ante Žižić (the 2018 first-round pick was traded to the Cleveland Cavaliers, along with Isaiah Thomas and Jae Crowder). The Boston Celtics ended up getting the #1 pick in the 2017 NBA Draft, which was traded to the Philadelphia Sixers for the #3 pick in the same draft. The Celtics ended up selecting Jayson Tatum at #3, while the Sixers took Fultz at #1.
In 2022, Danny Ainge traded Rudy Gobert to the Minnesota Timberwolves for Malik Beasley, Patrick Beverley, Leandro Bolmaro, Walker Kessler (#22 pick in the 2022 NBA Draft), Jarred Vanderbilt, 2023 first-round pick, 2025 first-round pick, 2027 first-round pick, 2029 first-round pick, plus the right to swap first-round picks in 2026.
Danny Ainge is a genius.
Jayson Tatum, Jaylen Brown, Grant Williams, Tacko Fall, Tremont Waters, And Romero Langford. Was all worth the trade💯
Joey Gutierrez It’s all worth it just for tacko
Could've stopped after Jaylen lol. The rest of those guys are useless (except Tacko).
@@Sully0020 grant!!!
@@eamonlynch2172 I stand corrected
I bet he loves the trade today! What a good time to be a Cs fan.
The trade that got them both tatum and brown using the nets picks lol
The most important piece of this trade is not even listed, the 2017 pick swap. Celtics took Fultz #1, Nets took Kyle Kuzma. Obviously the Celts Fultz for Jayson Tatum. The Nets packaged Kuzma and an expiring BLopez for D'Angelo Russell (Lakers were beginning to clear cap space for LBJ) who went on to be traded for Kevin Durant. It's amazing how many players the original trade ended up touching.
Crazy how kuz won a ring and brook too plus d lo was used for wiggins another champion with the dubs and the c's made 2 east finals in a row 3 in 4 years and their first finals in 2022 with those picks aka tatum and brown
This did not age well lmao
Quality analysis, Bill. Quality analysis.
Even before the Durant and Kyrie signings... I was AMAZED how quickly the Nets recovered from that trade. They actually made the playoffs in 2019!
yeahh about that
Before utterly collapsing again
This aged well. ESPN shoulda kept Bill
Believe it or not this was the mindset of most Celtics fans at the time. I was so pissed that I stopped watching basketball until 2017 (Jayson Tatum’s rookie year). But now I’m grateful we made that trade and have Ainge as GM. The guy is a basketball genius.
Best trade of all time!
🤔🤔🤔OH LOOK IT'S 2017 AND CELTICS ARE THE REAL CONTENDERS AND BROOKLYNS PICK IS NUMBER 1😲🤑🔥🔥 Thanks Brooklyn for taking our aging superstars and turning our franchise around😍😍❤
bassgott8 But we haven't done anything grand with the picks yet, right? Jaylen Brown. A guard this year maybe?
Any of the guys in this draft a Lebron, Novitsky, Duncan, or Durant. I'm a casual. xP
MYFAVORITES5 what do you mean haven't done anything with them yet??? Young top lottery prospects ARE "GRAND"! These lottery selections are why Philadelphia has brought shame to the franchise for TANKING all these years to get draft picks. We are now witnessing THE LAKERS tank this season because they have hit rock bottom post kobe. There's no other way to rebuild an NBA franchise. Boston Celtics did the impossible, speeding up the rebuilding process by trading their aging Hall of Famers for extremely valuable assets. Outside of these draft picks and jaylen brown, Danny Ainge has traded away worthless assets and players and turned them into up and coming superstar Isaiah Thomas, two way wing jae crowder, developing avery bradley, all while attracting AL horford in free agency. and most likely Gordon Hayward in the summer of 2017.
so you casual fan should take some time looking at the top three prospects of this year and 2018 if you want to see the most talented young players the world has to offer. Boston will have dibs unless they trade the picks, which is highly unlikely
MYFAVORITES5 go watch Deandre Ayton = Tim Duncan. Michael Porter = KEVINDURANT Mohamed Bamba =superstar defensive center
Thanks for the 2018 names. Imagine if they had a young dominating Power Forward / Center at the defensive end? O.O
But they're still just picks as of now. Our best chance, even with the #1 position pre lottery, is that we pull #4. The trade is still a fleece, but you gotta draft well (no Sam Booie or whoever was drafted in Jordan's class), and you need to hope you get players to fit holes on your roster (though it's always best to take the greater talent since, again, you can trade good talent for something).
I'll be looking into some of the videos of the picks soon, though I'm no evaluator. Fultz the number one right now I think, so start with him and check mock drafts.
Isn't there a prospect whose dad is looking to get him and his brothers a billion dollar shoe deal? Steer clear unless you're ready to pay max money to that guy early in his career. xC
MYFAVORITES5 Deandre Ayton can POSSIBLY be just as impactful as KAT is right now come 2018 draft. But everything can still change... so fingers crossed right?
We still have the best chances for the #1 pick, but I am in agreement with you. With the number 1 pick may come not just a top prospect for the future, but could be included in a trade for a real nba star. Never count Danny out of big trades. he wants them, only for the right price.
FULTZ IS MY FAVORITE. Isaiah on the recent bill simmons podcast already said he wants and wouldn't mind at all playing in the NBA with Markelle! Danny has scouted Dennis Smith Jr so keep him on your radar too.
That gentleman is Lonzo Ball Of UCLA. He's special
i think this trade went well for the celtics
"None of them will be lottery picks." lol that's great.
Those picks are great. But here is the catch. Then you have to draft well. Are you sure Jaylen Brown will be any good ? What about Tatum ? I don't know. Nobody knows. Yet...
Paul d'Ambrosio at the time,no one really saw brooklyn to be as bad as they are.So these picks were expected to be mid to late first round picks.
so far I'm sure they're looking pretty good
armin38822 yes I’m sure they’re going to be great
@@armin38822 I'm here from 2020 to let you know, Jaylen blossomed to become a fringe all-star and a pretty good player, while Jayson Tatum is becoming a superstar for the team. He made the all-star game this year, is putting up great stats and is one of the leaders for that Celtics team, along with Jaylen brown and Kemba. I think they also got Marcus Smart from the 2014 draft pick and smart is a great defensive and a really good 6th man.
Its 2020
Jason Tatum
Jaylen Brown
kevin durant
kyrie irving
P M give me Tatum and Brown every day. Kyrie and KD are a better duo now but Tatum and Brown are young, healthy, getting better and will probably be playing together for a decade, and don’t carry the baggage those other two guys do.
Kemba walker
but OKC got a real one with that 12th pick. So many nice P & Rs between Steven Adams and Russell Westbrook, not to mention the bone shattering screens he set.
I can understand where he is coming from, but Ainge in the long run knew what he was doing.
A lot of feelings are involved but at the end of the day basketball is a business. Good thing for the Celtics Simmons is just a pundit and not their actual GM.
The Celtics haven’t been to the finals since the trade so how did it help them?
He as we all just hurt a little that day. Paul Pierce was a true Celtic legend the shot over al the game 6 against lj the finals... an I'm not sure I've ever seen a player take to Boston like kg it was just magic to watch.. after 25 years of what ifs an whys... it was just amazing an he woke up that day an thought the magic was all gone...
Side not Jason Terry wore 6 pairs of socks ever game.
Have a good day yall be safe
Celtics got Tatum and Brown from those picks I think it’s good trade
The Nets used the 2017 pick swap to trade for D'Angelo Russell who they went on to trade for Kevin Durant. The Celtics definitely opened up some doors with this deal but they closed others. And they are potentially selling JBrown for parts within the next 2 years
the funny thing is that there is no way that Bill Simmons doesnt remember this
This didn't age well, those pics ended up conveying at 3 and 1 and landed them brown and Tatum, and they didn't even have to tank to do it.
Marcus Smart, Jaylen Brown, Jayson Tatum. Not bad
I guess Robert Williams was 18’ Tatum was just a great value pick in 17’
Lol crazy how 30 million for 3 years was considered a big contract back then. Getting Kyle Kuzma for 15 mil a year would be considered a steal.
True. 10 million a year is not even in the top 100 salaries for 2021.
At the time, I thought it was a win-win for both teams, Brooklyn was trying to go all in to win a championship and it looked like kg and Paul Pierce still had years left but I certainly didn't expect a championship out of it, Boston was just trying to rebuild as their core just wasn't getting any younger
Ultimately the trade yielded Jaylen Brown, Jayson Tatum, Kyrie Irving and Sacramento’s 2019 lottery pick. This is the arguably the best trade of all time in any sport.
As of now the Dallas Cowboys Herschel Walker is the best trade of all time as it yielded them a dynasty with several HOFers.
Looking at this trade, I project the nets to fall badly. I reckon some of these picks will fall into the lottery. Good trade
This aged very well
2016 Celtics pick from BK Jalen Brown and 2018 pick Tatum lol.
To be fair, he didn't get the full details of the trade (pick swap in 2017) and of course with what he knows now (Nets consistently in the lottery) he likes this trade for the C's. Hindsight is 20/20.
who here during quarantine 2020
He may still feel the same way. Paying Kobe $48M for his final two seasons after he tore his Achilles was not the smart play and cost the team dearly. It directly lead to the lowest point in the history of the franchise. But you know what, the fans wanted Kobe to stay in purple and gold. Jeanie put her money where her mouth is and showed that " Laker for life" actually means something. There were some dark times but here we are four years later winning another championship. The Lakers decided to stick with their guy and let the chips fall where they may. I'm guessing Bill Wishes the Celtics had done the same.
Even though I was happy with the pick, it is sad that pierce didnt retire with Boston
Oh bill. You got jayson Tatum and jalen brown 😂
He didn’t get anyone
That 2016 first round pick for the Celtics ended up being Jaylon Brown yeah the nets punching the air right now, though they still now have Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant so it's not too bad but still
Yea if u think about it. If the nets didn't make this trade they wouldn't have Kyrie and kd. I think in the long run in a funny way the nets won the trade
@@DB-cg4vs bold opinion
@@marivswrldgaming Yes as of 2021 nets are in a waaay better position for a championship while Celtics still rebuilding
@@DB-cg4vs well they both currently can't reach their finals 😂 🤷♂️
@@marivswrldgaming lol
Bill definitely wished he swallowed these words now
Why is this coming in recommendation NOW !?!?
Im here from the future to tell you that the celtics won the trade but wasted it. Fucked IT over as well, and now are a mediocre free agency destination. The missed out on Anthony Davis and have wasted the last 5 years "contending".
Those picks turned into James Young, Jaylen Brown, and the '18 pick was used in the Kyrie deal. The Nets finished 6th, squeezed out 7 gamer that the raps should've won then got wiped by Miami. I'll give this one to Boston but it is not glamorous
Resulted in the swap pick as well. Philly trades into the top spot and Celtics draft Tatum. Would not have had the top pick if we had kept Pierce, Garnett another year.
@@jaylenbrownfan2112 valid point!
At that time, it seems like a bad trade for the C's cus nobody expected the Nets to be sooo bad (Hence the lottery picks the Cs got). You can understand why Bill hated it at that time because it might not be a lottery pick and he wants KG and Pierce to retire as C's
So happy he couldn’t of been further from right hahaha
You can't wait to get a Gerald Wallace Jersey
Lol and OKC got Steven Adams with that pick a massive win!
he didnt see the full trade 3 picks alone wouldn’t have been that bad..
but pock swap rights on top of that?! ouch
Idk why this was in my recommended but little did he know the Celtics won this trade by a landslide and PP still retired with the team technically
Bill was shell shocked. When he came to he realized great trade for Celtics but he was just dazed and confused here. Understandable for a fan.
Never doubt Danny Ainge...
he brings up this trade all the time but never brings up his first reaction
Little did he know
And that’s why Simmons makes the big bucks lol.
honestly this trade in an odd way benefited both these teams. Celtics ended up with Kyrie, Tatum, Brown etc, ultimately losing Kyrie to the Nets, who's poor success with this trade left the door and opportunity open for KD and others to join
Boston ended up getting James Young (#17 in 2014), Jaylen Brown (#3 in 2016) and the last pick was leveraged in the Kyrie Irving trade (Isaiah Thomas, Jae Crowder, Ante Zizic and the pick for Kyrie), the Cavs picked Colin Sexton (#8 in 2018). I think it’s a little overblown how good the trade ended up being for Boston, but it’s terrible for Brooklyn, so Boston wins it by default.
The Nets Pick in 2017 became #1 overall that was later trade to the 76ers for the third(which became Tatum) and a future pick right?
Uncle Jrue Yes, of course. I completely forgot, that was a pick swap. Obviously, that makes the deal substantially better. The Boston pick and Brook Lopez were traded to the Lakers for D’Angelo Russell and Mozgov, so the Nets got decent value for their end of the pick swap too. The Lakers picked Kuzma.
How is it overblown? The Celtics got two young superstars in exchange for people who sadly had nothing left in the tank
Until Boston gets to the Finals at least this trade is a Nets Killer more than anything
"I don't like the trade."
This trade did kill the nets. But now they have kd and kyrie and are ironically better than the celtics. However the celtics have the brighter future
HOW DOES BILL SIMMONS LIKE THIS TRADE NOW?!
The nets will probably still win a ring before the Celtics lol
look at the Celtics now
How did the nets fall for this?
Loves it now
Trust Danny Ainge
Little green men have still not sniffed a CHAMPIONSHIP......May The Celtics ALWAYS BE One Player Away!
And the Nets got their revenge...
Ummmm...... Nope
....tell me again how they got their revenge?
TJ took the star that the C’s traded some of the nets’ trade pieces for in free agency and signed the best scorer in the league, realistically they’re the better team now, while the C’s got an ECF run as their peak
@@WaddleDeeKnows The Nets have to actually....you know, do something first. I think I'll trust the healthy team over the team with two injured stars, neither of whom can lead.
@@WaddleDeeKnows The Celtics are nowhere near their peak
Marcus, jaylen and Jayson
well boys here we are lol
Hes right tho, the trade didn’t necessarily look great at the time bc everyone thought those picks would b in the mid twenties or so
Good thing you’re not a gm. You lack vision.
Markel Payne do you think the Paul George to LA trade was an all time terrible trade? Bc the two trades are rather similar in their essence, the only difference is that we don’t know the repercussions of this one yet. The arrogance of your comment is honestly laughable, insulting me bc you have the value of hindsight. That’s a whole new level or pretentiousness
Jon_Gotteiner stop being emotional. The trade was terrible. That’s all that needs to be said, you wanna sit here and rationalize why Bill may have been right. My goodness.
Markel Payne in hindsight it’s terrible, but at the time no one could guarantee anything. Stop acting so arrogant. I guarantee that at the time there was a large amount of ppl who supported the move.
Jon_Gotteiner yeah, the nets organization. How am I acting arrogant? It’s literally the truth..
Lol the nets really thought that team would do something
I only have nba 2k19, I hate when this guy is talking with the announcers every like 5th game 😂😂😂
Facts, and it’s the same exact topic of “E-sports” every time
oh it'll pay off.. don't you worry bill
$.35 on the dollar?
More like $35 on the dollar. :)
Now we got the third pick ayy
That turned into Smart, Tatum, & Brown. I’ll take it 🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀
Looking back, it's strange how people were so convinced that Brooklyn team would be a superteam. Those old guys on the Celtics weren't winning championships as is, and suddenly in their old age they're going to win one? With an even worse declining Deron Williams? Joe Johnson was probably the most reliable player on that team, and that's sad.
I actually hated the trade for new z jersey, (one never use Ainge as a trade partner, but Pierce and Garnett were Past their primes and they gave up a ton of picks that set their team back…
Brooklyn
Marcus smart and Jaylene brown
this trade actually turned out very well for the Celtics they just keep fucking up the draft picks yet they're terrified to trade the picks for a proven player. I don't get it
Well bill f:;ked this call up
Here after the Harden trade
HOW YOU LIKE THE TRADE NOW SIMMONS???
Well now the celtics have brown and tatum from those picks, so i'd call this trade a dub.
The nets have KD and kyrie in 2021 and are looking to stick it to your youngsters next year that have helped you win nothing.
@@paulsaad11 KD and kyrie won nothing alone, kyrie lost two finals even with lebron(vice versa), and kd couldn;t win with westbrook. and both constantly injured. And they are both notoriously toxic players, you guys will probably win nothing because of s a little something toxic behavior.
@@braedensteele3184 But technically non great won on their own whether we talk about LeBron, Steph Curry, Paul Pierce, Michael Jordan, Tim Duncan, the list could go on. All of them had at least one star next to them. And it is not fair to call them toxic, a lot of the media news is to display these players as toxic, whether its bc they get into off court issues or on court issues with their own teammates but lets be real you don't think other players do that? Im sure Lebron is hard on his teammates and has issues with them at times, they never show you the good so we are quick to judge them. Did you know KD with his own money build a facility in his hometown to help the kids get off the street and have a community area they can go to play sports, oh and scholarships for colleges. Did you know Kyrie donates his money to different charities like donating 320k to feeding America and donated masks, food, and health supplies to native americans during the pandemic.
And although Kyrie and KD did not win on their own it was difficult for them in their particular situations. KD had russ who is great but lets be real, can not shoot and is not the best number 2 to have (see houston rockets) and Kyrie although he lost with lebron they lost to very strong teams respectively.
@@paulsaad11 Just because someone is toxic to their teammates does not make them a bad person, it makes them a bad teammate. Kyrie calling for teammates to be traded and talking behind peoples backs to the very media he calls out is toxic. Durant leaving and criticizing his former organization using burner accounts while calling out teammates in golden state is toxic. I just don't see them getting along with other teammates, and it ending badly.
On draft night this was an obvious win for Boston just goes to show you how clueless the "experts" are lol this dude Simmons would've rather kept washed up KG and just let Pierce retire in Celtic Green than load up on these picks
kevinseveneleven what have the C's done with these picks ATM tho. Jaylen brown is no superstar neither is Rozier. Maybe Tatum will be but we'll have to see. And ainge is hoarding them refusing to trade for proven stars so hopefully these picks turn into something at some point. Ofc there better of then the nets are right now tho
NBA version of the Herschel Walker trade
I HATE when people point a smartphone at the TV and upload the results!
This aged well