Where's the CONTROL? Why this 4-4 was more bad than good for Newcastle United!
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- The Daily Mail's Craig Hope reflects from inside St James' Park following Newcastle United's 4-4 draw with Luton Town.
What did Eddie Howe say when asked why he did not substitute Dan Burn for Tino Livramento earlier in the game? And what did Craig think of the "Tino, Tino" chants from the home end? - Sport
I was really encouraged with Eddie's substitutions against Villa. Now it's back to the usual reaction....too little, too late.
Exactly
Been saying it for months joe Linton the fucking gladiator is covering everyone’s weaknesses. The poor lad is clocking 13km a game covering burn at lb, covering Bruno, covering long staff no wonder 😮he’s injured
Truth. And they are quibbling over his pay. He is as essential as Bruno in my opinion. Our current midfielders are canny- great at times but as a unit they don’t work very well.
I still think Howe is a great manager, but his insistence on starting a slow centre back as a left back, against fast wingers is Gareth Southgate level managing, and its not good enough. But, at the end of the day if he keeps insisting on doing the same thing and keeps losing, he'll only have himself to blame when he loses his job
@@JordiBoy_ teams come to st james with a fast right winger and have a free avenue to chances all game
As much as I love Miley, for a 17 year old he jigs around like jonjo shelvey at 30
@Elgeordio if you look at the counter attacks we're conceding from, it's plain and clear a lack of mobility and pace is what gets us in dangerous positions, I think the 2nd one we conceded, longstaff was weak in his challenge and lost out to barkley who started their move. From that point on, our other 2 midfielders were nowhere in sight. They weren't quick enough tracking back. I'm not going to slag burn off for not being quick, his built generally offers strengths in other areas, but the man in front of him, I think almiron today, struggled to help him. I think we're missing Joelinton immensely. With joelinton in our midfield today, I think we win comfortably. He'd had taken a yellow, or tracked back at least 2 of the goals we let in.
Seems to me we cannot handle more than one game a week.
He's a good coach and a terrible manager.
Spot on analysis again Craig. Despite Eddie's exceptional work over the last 2 years are we seeing his achilies heel as a coach in his reluctance , or the worse senario of his inability, to react to an obvious shortcoming in team selection or ingame management. Top opposition coaches identify areas to exploit and our left hand side is an open invitation yet we continue to be caught out time and time again.
It's really basic stuff. I really don't get why he's so stubborn to realise any of this.
He keeps him in to counter the aerial threat, for the most part its effective but he is exposed by pacy wingers. Put Tino on instead and we reduce that threat but become more vulnerable in the air. The back 3 of Schar Botman Burn allows Trips to get forward more which helps us at the other end. So it is a balance, and now the weakness in the system is being exposed hopefully he will find a way to address it.
@@johnnyboy11000 he won't though, he'll just keep things exactly as they are. He's had 3 months of things not going right, and he has just stuck with what hasn't been working.
@@JD-lp5rw Well I wouldn't go as far as to say nothing has gone right in 3 months, we've had some shit luck with injuries but we've still beaten Man U home & away, Chelsea, Arsenal, Villa away. It certainly could have gone better but given the circumstances it could also be a lot worse.
He’s like Southgate, Burn is 1 of his favourites. I don’t believe any other manager in the league would bench Tino and play Burn left back. Madness!
Dan Burn had made two mistakes in a row costing us two goals. I was at the game today he was getting skinned the whole of the first half Tino should have been on at half time. That isn't hindsight it was obvious at the time.
There was frustration in the crowd because there were capable subs on the bench for the first time in ages but they weren't getting made, hence the shouts of Tino from the crowd.
As it happens Wilson, Tino and Barnes were very good when they came on.
100% agree
Dan Burn didn't make a mistake today. The mistake was Eddie's by leaving him to deal with the FASTEST (officially) player in the league. Ogbene is no joke, speedwise. And Burn is probably the slowest LB in the league. Eddie took a gamble, he was worried about Luton's height advantage for set pieces. Ultimately, it was open play speed that cost us the points. Eddie needed to realize that earlier, rather than later. We became much better once Tino came on as he was better able to handle the pace.
Didn’t make a mistake? So the penalty he gave away isn’t a mistake no?
As a defender you have quick decisions to make based on your view of risk and Burns decided to concede a foul to prevent a goal - unfortunately it crept into the box and a penalty was given. It happens. A couple of games ago he was man of the match. It happens.
@@deanharding740 he got done for pace and so tried pulling him to the ground. He got motm against Fulham for scoring a 2 yard tap in and putting some decent tackles in but let’s be serious, we have a far better choice in Livramento who can get forward too whereas burn offers nothing in attack
I had Trippier for the 3*s as well. Yes, his mistake led to Luton's 4th goal, but his assist on the first goal, scores the 3rd to start pulling the team back into the game, and his leadership and character pushing the team along to fight for the point
The key word is definitely 'control' - something you have rightly been talking about for a long while now.
Top teams control games and decide the pace at which the game will be played. You won't become a Top team if your game plan is essentially reactive - which is what NUFC`s is.
Maybe Tonali is that player? There were glimpses of him getting his foot on the ball and changing the tempo (slowing and speeding up as required). But that's for another time.
What is clear though - and as much as we want Howe to succeed - is the stubborn persistence of sticking to this version of 4-3-3 (with no DM and daft inverted wingers) will get him the sack.
And we don't want that. We want him to learn and kick on.
As soon as Howe saw Burn getting owned down that side constantly he should have swung the axe and subbed him
He's scared of him.
Or put another player on to help him out like Almiron helping Trippier out.
@@RuudKuntzwell he is bigger than him but then again Trippier is smaller😂😂😂
I keep blaming Burn but now I feel guilty. Ultimately this is Eddie’s responsibility, asking a 30 something very tall centre back to run back from the wing inside your oppositions half against younger and faster wingers is just criminal.
Aye which was after 5 mins into the game. Took him an hr to do owt about.
The tino chants were aimed at making Howe do something about the problem of Dan burn getting tortured. It shouldn’t have had to come to that! 50,000 + supporters could see what was blatantly obvious from the very start of the game. Howe is brilliant but the major flaw is his inability to act sooner when a blind man on a galloping horse can see what needs to be done!
with respect i think you're overlooking an important point here Craig. If Tino had started we win this game even without a fully effective midfield.
Howe has to go
gave the pen away for the 3rd and nowhere to be seen for the 4th@@JordiBoy_
@Elgeordio. Yes I agree with you their. What exactly was Schar doing when Luton got their second goal? it was a real Jeckyll and Hyde performance. Awful defending with some excellent attacking play.
100% First half I was thinking if Tino was LB we would've been 4-1/5-1 going into the break honestly. I don't think that's ridiculous either
When will someone ask Eddie Howe directly about the lack of positional discipline in midfield? Bruno was disciplined positionally against Villa and we destroyed them. Why do our midfielders AND the manager not seem to get that someone needs to sit as a 6 more?
I said exactly the same to the lads around me today, Dan Burn has been brilliant for us and for some of the crowd to shout for his replacement while he is still on the pitch is bang out of order.
That shouting got us a point 😂
Dan Burn has been a great servant and an asset to us since he came in but that doesn’t give you an automatic place in the squad. It’s horses for courses. He isn’t quick enough down that flank and when you’re matched with officially the fastest player in the league, you need to look at other options. I’m not suggesting the managers job is easy but some decisions are glaringly obvious. We seem to spend a lot of time this season reflecting on what went wrong rather than fixing the issues.
Dan Burn is not to blame, he’s playing in a position that’s exposing him
Sorry time for howe to go,
@@geordiesatstjamessfucking hell hot take of the century, i bet when you get a flat tyre you buy a new car.
😒
Burn is championship quality
@@zaphodbeeblebrox9109 Change the tyre.
eddie picks favourites so is not doing the best for the team by doing so. its embarrassing drawing with luton, even more embarrassing is them scoring 4 goals
I agree about the crowd but I think that was also down to being overrun at times down the left and the manager doing nothing about it until it's too late. How Miley got through 90 minutes I'm not sure, leaving Burn on for so long was also suicide, Ogbene had the beating of him from the first minute. It's unfair on him to be up against these type of pacey players and expect much else. It says everything about how Eddie regards Hall as well, the fact he couldn't get on when the left was in chaos. I would also like to praise Luton though what a job Edwards is doing with a team of basically unknown players other than Barkley who was head and shoulders the best player on the park and probably showed the type we are lacking at the moment. For whatever reason that trio of Bruno longstaff and Miley just doesn't seem to work at all. We did well to come back and exciting game but it's a far cry from the solidity as a team we've had since Howe took over and I fear his inability to rotate or make subs will be his downfall down the line.
I've seen enough of Tino to know he can start anywhere on the pitch. Headscratcher. Love your tough questions in the press conferences. You're the best. Keep pressing on for the truth.
I don’t get why Eddie Howe lets an obvious weakness in Dan burn against real pace continue with Tino on the bench, I can’t imagine an elite manager letting these winning positions slip like Eddie Howe is doing at the moment
Eddie Howe is nowhere near an elite manager
I love Howe but he is basically saying the only reason Dan Burn is still
on the pitch is because he is tall forget he is being rinsed by most wingers hes come up against this season.
😅 it was lame, I agree. But he'll be the 1st man on the team sheet for our next game, guaranteed 🤷♂️
Burn needs to go back to cb cover and tino hall to lb
The chants for Livramento weren’t a good look, but they’re a consequence of terrible management from Howe. The crowd aren’t stupid, we all saw him getting targeted throughout the first half and saw it needed to change, so why didn’t Howe. To keep Burn on at HT is criminal and therefore the penalty was completely on him for allowing Burn to continue to be found out.
Fair play to the team for coming back from two goals down, but we were very poor overall. Luton should be livid that they didn’t win that.
As an aside, the atmosphere today was shocking. There’s nothing worse than an SJP crowd that comes expecting to roll a team over, the atmosphere is usually atrocious when things turn out to not be as easy as the crowd expects. I can’t fathom why people were streaming out at 4-4 around 85 mins either, utterly bizarre.
Agreed. That's not a real fan Imo !
Hi Craig, was nice to meet you at the game on Saturday. What a crazy game, not a bad first game for my daughter. I hope your son enjoyed it. Andrew 👍🏼
It didn't really take long to see that Ogbene was going to have a field day against Dan Burn on the right flank, but just as with Elanga in the Forest game Eddie stuck with him until the hour mark when the damage was already done. Burn has been and still is a fantastic player for Newcastle but he seriously does not have the speed or mobility to keep up with the quicker wingers.
At 2-4 down I would have happily taken a point but with Gordon leaving on crutches the question is What now?
The idea of a regular starting 11 is old school. The 11 you start must be tailored to the team you face. I appreciate we haven’t had much in the way of choices recently but the Tino Burn is a great example of what we could/ should be doing.
Pick the man for the job and often that will be Burn just not on this occasion
Im slowly feeling Eddie Howe is begining to hold the team back with reluctancy in being flexible in tactics insisting on playing Dan Burn up against Ogbene, great team always able to rotate the teams yet Howe didnt only after four goals concede....
It’s Eddie’s fault we drew game being reactive instead of proactive. Anyone would tell you that burn was in trouble after half hour take him off and we win that game simple as that
He makes such blazing errors. Burn and Murphy were both terrible, but he insists on playing them. Also refuses to substitute players (or ever play Hall) meaning they get injured, adding to the injury crisis, or are just generally knackered.
It really is schoolboy stuff. This added to the bizarre summer transfer window where we needed a CDM, RW, and LB. so he bought a CM, LW, RB, and a £30M LB he never plays.
I love what Howe has done for us, but his stubbornness is too much, and he doesn't learn from his mistakes. I don't think he should be the person to take us forward.
@@JD-lp5rwEvery fan always thinks they know better than every manager.
@@badofcheese and in some cases, they do. It's stubbornness that's not letting Eddie change his ways. It was exactly the same at Bournemouth. When plan A stops being effective, you have to adapt.
Absolutely awful goals we gave away.
Burn off all afternoon was same against Forest haven't learnt anythingfrom that game . Bruno to lightweight gave the ball away to much. Trying fancy passes he can't carry out.
Id sell Bruno if a big offer came in. Just personal opinion. Get Tonali back and buy a DM instead. Barkley rang rings round them.
Even if we sell Bruno Howe will blow the money on shite anyway we need a new manager that can attract top players.
@@Vault-tecworkshop midfield is costing us big time. Joelinton massive miss. No physical presence in there.
@@Vault-tecworkshopRubbish. Absolutely clueless comment.
@@paulharrison7761clueless ? We have just seen our manager hold on to deadwood for a month when we needed to sell to buy some fresh faces we should have sold miggy trips and Wilson and bought some good bargains from Europe that could keep our season alive. Also explore the loan market but we couldn’t even do that.
@@Vault-tecworkshop He hasn't made a single bad signing so far. Only Tonali could qualify, but even then, we actually just don't know.
This season has been disastrous. There was so much promise going into the Summer. Recruitment was poor, and we're still relying on Burn at left back. I think it's time to make some tough decisions and try to kick on. Thanks for the memories, but it's time to move on.
Agree. Howe out for the benefit of the club. Howe should go to Ipswich. Plenty of British players in the Championship
@@RuudKuntzwell said! He’s a manager who’s holding us back massively. He refuses to get rid of dead wood players cause their his mates, he has got to go soon. Fans are sick to death of him. Hansi Flick needs to replace him. #HoweOut
@@RuudKuntzGive over! Still playing with half a team that was battling survival. Yes he made an error. However, to say we need to get rid of him is absolutely ludicrous. We learn from it and I'm sure Howe has too. We can still get 6/7th without a doubt.
Fuck me there are some serious idiots in the fan base now, what on earth are you on about. Look at the reality, not able to spend, injuries galore, a game every 2.6 days over november and december and one bad performance and you bring out the guillotine. Where were we this time 2 years ago?
@robferriday9945 he hasn't learnt from it though this is one of several games he's lost us because of his shocking team management
I agree Craig, Dan B has been brilliant for us and the club over the past two years, love him. But, Eddie has put him in that position, it was not his fault he was compromised, tried his best, but that is a managerial error.
We certainly shouldn't be conceding 4 goals at home especially to a Luton Town regardless that they're an improving team. We've lost 4 points to the Hatters and been beaten at home to Forest. Just when you think we'd turned a corner Craig and with numbers returning too. HWTL
“Teams like Luton”…. No credit given - like most as they will find out soon….
Can't argue with anything you said. Again, managed to verbalise my exact feelings on the game.
The frustrating thing for me is the issues we had in that game were easy to identify and fix but Howe or the team didn't do anything about it. Not going to roast Burn but he was struggling and we also committed too many forward but kept losing the ball. Both those are simple fixes.
The away support/atmosphere the last two games has been great powering the team on. The home support this season appears to have lost something. Next game we should try 4-4-2, with Tino at LB.
Craig - I agree with all you have said - and - the chants of TINO were not aimed at BDB, it’s a clear message to Eddie - and to his team mates. He had a very tricky winger , being fed through big gaps in midfield , from Barkley - end of.
If we are serious about growth and competing , we have to be more ruthless - as EH was on Tuesday - lesson learned - and I’m sure BDB isn’t sat worrying about it - HE knows he was taken to the cleaners from the first few mins .. we HAVE to get good and feedback and learning - and be less worried about upsetting each other - that’s what winning teams do.
Keep the content coming fella 🙏🙏
He never learns. Same thing in next match 😂
We are paying for last summers window, we needed a left back, a holding midfielder and another striker! We didn’t buy any of them and that’s where we are giving away goals and not taking enough chances at other end. We should’ve been out of sight today before they got their second then thro carelessness and rank bad defending we ended up 4-2 down. EH waited until then before he subbed BDB which after 19mins we had seen enough of him getting skinned! Sorry but EH is starting to be found out admittedly we got injuries but you can play other formations which he is so reluctant to do!
We bought a left back, £35m called Lewis Hall. Not sure wtf is going on there.
BANG ON and we are just mere mortals
Exactly been saying this since the summer window ashworth should of spent the money better and got what we needed but he didn't alot of fans don't like to accept it but ashworth should be blamed alot
We needed a squad overhaul. Can't believe he kept Dummett, Matt Ritchie and Gillespie.
@@michaelmckie9164Lewis hall is a midfielder. He’s always played midfield. He only ever went to left back when Chelsea had injuries. He plays a Willock role and always has which is why it’s infuriating that Howe won’t use him when we have tired legs in the middle.
That game changed when Burn was taken off and Wilson also came on. It should have happened earlier.
Agree with many of the comments. Burn should never have started . Midfield didn’t get about Luton and challenge their players. Lucky point. Howe and Tindale unable to see what all of us can see from the stands Howe lost us Man City game and almost this one with his stubbornness of not being proactive and changing things. Bruno could barely walk last 20 mins so why leave him on? Howe’s both saint and sinner
Howe has made too many mistakes which have effectively ruined our season, sad thing is the problems could have been avoided because the signs were there during the summer trip to the States.
In the matches against Villa and Chelsea you could see even then we were too slow at the back with Watkins, Jackson getting in behind us at will!
Howe did nothing then going into the season with the same strategy and tactics which led to a poor start to the campaign notably being downed by an 18 year old scoring a hattrick against us.
Pardon the pun but how can you get behind a manager who doesn't learn anything and is doomed to repeat the same mistakes?
Burn at Fullback was meant to be a temporary measure but a year later here we are still playing him with 70 million pounds of our budget sitting on the bench!
Why wasn't that money spent on a striker and holding midfielder because we could have done with them rather than pay two defenders who never get a chance to play.
The above then lead into another problem every man and his dog knew about in the striking situation with both the main options injury prone, again known about for some time but not acted upon leading to more self inflicted problems.
Seeing Anthony Gordon leaving on crutches is another inevitable conclusion the way that lad has been run into the ground by Howe this season, I am only surprised it hasn't happened before now.
Howe's 100 mph backs against the wall struggling manager style of football is killing us due to the physical demands of it!
It was a needs must in the early days of the take over with the threat of relegation looming but surely we are past that now?
Howe doesn't seem to have anything more in the locker when that chasing people all over the pitch fails on a given day.
It seems the only thing Howe learned from Simeone was the dark arts which form part of his keys to victory, the only problem with that is it has done for us on numerous occasions.
Howe has his teams pulling players down, standing in the way of them, diving in front of the referee looking for free kicks, time wasting which has seen countless games thrown away due to the added time giving the opposition the chance to get back into the game.
Howe hasn't moved on with the same small time mentality employed by struggling managers still prevalent within him.
Howe is a good coach getting the players fit and conditioned but are they too over trained and that is why the injuries are biting so much with all those soft tissue concerns?
The players are burned out but Howe just carries on regardless to the detriment to his squad.
Howe has demonstrated his lack of ability this season and PIF would be remiss in letting him continue with the reins next season.
I think we all need to see the truth staring us in the face instead of trying to hang onto the shirt tails of the feel good factor created by the take over which has hyped Howe way beyond his true abilities in favour of the practicalities.
Craig , When will Eddy learn from the first 30 minutes you could see a Dajavu of itself of the Forest game , Dan Burn is the weakest link and teams that play us now know that , so its not rocket science , Eddie re acted to late again , if he had made the change of Burn at half time , it might have been a different story but NO he waited till the damage was done , If he plays Dan Burn v Forest you can see what the out come but
I bet you he plays Dan Burn again from the start against Forest and Eddie will be shooting himself in the foot again ,
Dan Burn is not a Left back , he has been a good Servent and a good central defender , but when will Eddie learn ,
The positive of the game was Barnes and Wison were back but loosing Gordon is a massive blow
We were lucky to claw back a point ,it could have been so different if changes had of been made earlier Period!
Have a great week Craig.
Why did we buy Lewis Hall?? Burn should be 4th choice left back behind liv, keiran, Hall .
Howes turning into southgate
exactly this thing with lewis hall is beyond a joke ,he,s a cracking young player ..he,ll never play under eddy howe who i am fast losing patience with after yesterdays shite
It's obvious there are stipulations in the loan to buy deal and they don't want to trigger them, they aren't just going to come out and say it though. And I don't think it is down to how they view Lewis himself, rather that they need the money to help strengthen in other areas. Even Eddie the other day said something like "he's a Newcastle player as long as he's here" when asked what was happening.
what stipulations 120mins on the pitch in the pl total per season it,s a pure joke..@@johnnyboy11000
Cant believe no one is mentioning Murphy. Murphy had many passes to him around the box and they all ended with a selfish shot straight at the keeper and not a set up pass in all the chances he could have.
I still believe Howe is the man to take the club forward. The squad itself is NOT a top 6 squad. To get top 4 last year was an incredible feat, we just became the first team this season to beat Aston Villa on their own turf.. no Isak, no Joelinton.. Murphy LW..
Not a chance he's taken us as far as he can
@@willfoster2664He'll be sacked next week
Totally agree mate so many reactionary comments in this chat. A mistake today with keeping Burn on? Yes. Can Howe do better, also Yes. So stick with him.
It was a fluke win with 3 fluke goals.
We were poor. Luton are a team we should brush aside easily. Player for player, we are head and shoulders above them and that leads me to believe our tactics have been rumbled by other teams.
We obviously suit playing Villa but other teams seem to make us look ordinary.
The day of reckoning for the players and management is coming and how many of them will be there in August as surely the owners have some big decisions to make before then?
Dan Burn should not have started, it was unfair of Eddie to play him in this game because he was never going to be fast enough. There are games Dan will be brilliant in and games he won’t because of his lack of pace. That’s not being hypercritical, it’s just a fact. I thought the crowd had seen that Tino was preparing to come on and so started the chant. Maybe that wasn’t the case in hindsight but I could definitely sense that Dan was frustrated with himself and the situation but Eddie needed to have managed that far sooner than he did. That said, you yourself Craig have been very critical of individual players this season and therefore it’s somewhat hypercritical to say you don’t like the supporters doing the same. All things considered there were many positives to to taken from the performance and I really enjoyed it.
It's not that people are disrespecting burn it's just some fans are getting sick of eddie playing him on the left against fast wingers that make him look bad especially when we have players like tino and lewis hall in the squad
100% change was needed, the threat down the left and pace was far far greater.... Poor answer from Eddie.
Craig, I understand why u didn’t like the Tino chants. I didn’t either but I don’t think u can blame the fans when you’re also acknowledging that the change was staring the everyone in the face. 4 conceded goals is just not good enough at all. I do not want Eddie gone at all. The injuries have been a problem. I also think that the manager gets the brunt of frustration with the silent window. And it’s not his fault. I remember the villa home game and daft people saying “burn not good enough, we need another striker, another midfielder” etc and that was before the Barnes injury and many injuries and the ban! My summary and I’ve bounced around too- today. It good enough, expectations higher, today not good enough, a forest win and a cup run needed and still faith in Eddie as long as he’s supported by the club
Fair assessment Craig.👍
Darren Eales comments will prove to be a defining moment in the history of this Club. He unsettled the squad and undermined much of the work Eddie had done in developing squad unity. Most of our on field problems date from then. As a result,Eddie will fail to meet management’s objectives for this season and will go. That alone will have management implications. Any new manager will take us back two seasons before we progress.
Never heard about this, where when or what did he say?
@@brunoactis1104he said every player has a price while Eddie said he wanted to keep everyone and they clashed
I know what he was doing, but it was crass. It visibly unsettled a number of individuals in particular and the squad in general.and undermined Eddie’s authority. And for what? To find out Miggy’s market value and learn that he didn’t want to leave ? There are rather more subtle ways of doing that.
I completely disagree.
@@sirwinstonchurchill2052 I am not assuming anything. If your opinion differs from mine, I have no problem with that. I am simply telling things as I see them.
Howe NEEDS to be PROactive, NOT, REactive when making subs.The defence was shocking. Good team spirit to get a draw. However, this is a game we should really be winning.
Cheers, Graig, great eval as usual 👏
Would people have taken a draw at Villa and a win against Luton? I bet they would have. Bdb got skinned yes and lost the ball upfield so where was the rest of the team to stop the mistake leading to a goal? I would hate to play in front of this lot, and shame on the crowd chanting for another player to replace Bdb. Maybe better playing away from the library.
We lacked respect for the opposition.. how can you go gung ho when you’re in the lead?
It’s not Burn’s fault. If the manager picks you, you give your best. Buck stops with Howe.
Spot on analysis Craig as always and absolutely gutted to hear about Anthony Gordon. Miley was given the run around by Barclay who is not a player I like as he is arrogant but without him Luton is a different team. Callum Wilson was constantly pulled and held back in that match and the ref did nothing at all all about it Craig. At least on a couple of occasions he would have been through on goal had it not happened. His marker wasn't even penalised so it has to be said the ref had a very poor game!
Saw you and and your little one before the match mate, would have said hello but you looked like you were on a mission 😊 Cheers Craig, all the best mate 👍🖤🤍
Can’t think of any other manager who will keep playing Burn ahead of Tino and Hall. Burn’s not a full back and can’t provide what’s required.
I always get stick when i say i want Raffa B back.He did a miraculous job with what he had.He would be phenomenal with this squad
I think we can probably do a ton better than that. No need to return to familiar faces just cause they're familiar.
Didn't like black players though did he
I think fans are frustrated Tina has not started last few games, I like Burn but as KB teams are targeting him and Tina is a better player by a mile. LB do not need to be tall. Let’s hope Gordon is not injured and great to see Barney’s back. Lucky to get a point today.
On some level it’s sackable to allow burn straight back in to the team above someone who is at least twice the footballer in tino. Love the bloke but he’s had this one completely wrong for “leadership” and height, and forgotten about getting the best player on the grass
How long before you genuinely forensically assess Eddie Howe's choices rather than mildly questioning them? I'm certain that PIF are.
However, you do provide the best post-match assessment relative to the many others.
Poor Tino!!! Cant get a start and is a better defender and attacker than Burn.
Burn turns like a Cruiseship
Poor Hall too. The £30million left back who keeps getting overlooked for Dan burn
@@phil5357 who's Hall ??
Burn had a job to do and he was found wanting, the fans have every right to whinge at his play and he has history of playing that way.
Spot on
One of the main problems is sticking rigidly with 4-3-3. It worked last season when Joelinton played regularly but we're too light weight without him. Perhaps Eddie could try a version of 4-4-2 and this would help provide balance and shape. It's a bit of a dog's breakfast at the moment.
Last season Eddie didn’t seem to mess about with subs, if it was not working, people got changed by half time. This season he always seems give it 10 more minutes after it’s become apparent in the hope it changes. I have no problem with any of our squad starting, not 1 of them, but once it’s clear it’s not working, if there is an option to change it needs to be done. Waiting too long to be decisive too many times. Still believe Eddie and JT are the right guys to take us forward but they need to stop going to the pander stone and get ruthless again!!
Hi Craig,
My wife and I are Geoedies in voluntary excile and we love listening to your reports whilst walking the street of Gosforth.
How about doing a report whilst walking the streets of Jesmond. We would love that.
Regards John and Jean
Hi John & Jean, thank you for the nice message. Where are you based? I’ll certainly try for Jesmond before the end of the season.
@craighope_dailymail
Hi Craig,
Thanks for the reply. We live in Newbury in Berkshire.
My grandson is 4 next month, and my goal is to take him to his first game at St Jamses when he is 8 or 9 just like my Dad did with me.
Thanks again for the reply. All the best, John and Jean
Really poor decision making by Howe . Far too late for subs
Absolute madness that we are praying Wilson can last 2/3 games....
Spot on again Craig. Entertaining?, yes for the non partisan. I thought it was a horrible game. I also thought the match officials were very poor and that didn't help
I Wish the Media would grow a set and ask Eddie the most Important Questions that is what is the point of Lewis Hall and if Tino has to keep coming on to pull us out of the cr@p why is he keep starting Burn over him and who is Responsible for checking out the opposing players in Lutons No7 (Fastest in the Prem) and forrest's winger Ilunga who are far to Quick for Bdb
Horses for courses, Dan Burn is getting hammered here but he's been excellent for us and yesterday was another occasion where the manager has effectively thrown him under a bus.
We will never have game management or control unless we learn how to keep the ball better. Have been saying this all season. We will never win anything unless we improve our ball retention/possession.
Also the Dan Burn issue is worrying. It was obvious he should have been replaced at half time and Tino brought on. That is down to Eddie Howe's inability to read the room.
When you talk about the atmosphere being flat, I could not agree more. Even for the first goal you could barely tell a goal went in, there was more celebrations for a throw in being won against PSG. It has to be because of the ballot system (where you cannot pick a seat), and I would love if journalists caught onto it, needs to have the light shone on.
1000% I'm a Black & White member, apply for EVERY single home game, haven't been successful now for months, Nufc v C, Pallice, was my last success. If you can call it that. To many prawn sandwich supporters are getting tickets. We need to expand/ Build a bigger stadium ASAP. But, it looks a long way off....
Yep ballot system is a joke, single seat resellers must get them all. Gonna demand a refund at the end of the season. I managed to get 100% of the tickets before because I was dedicated. Now they're going to tourists.
Its been destroyed
It's been completely dead since the ballot system came in. Away fans are class, home support is honestly awful.
@@JD-lp5rw that's why I don't blame city fans for there atmosphere same thing will happen to us
Spot on Craig
Burn is an always isolated when Gordon isn’t in the left. Burn is a good defender and a decent left back but isn’t quick so needs help which is something he didn’t get yesterday.
Eddie cost us the 3points, cannot play burn against fast wingers, to slow
Regardless of how the game goes the home crowd need to support the team the same way as the away supporters do up until the final whistle otherwise they are no different from fans who support the likes of Liverpool who need geeing up even when they are winning.
Wrong !!! too many piss poor, sloppy games and the fans are right to react, cheering poor performances and Eddies consistent failure to bench a player having a bad game “ DAN BURN “ is going to cost him his job and the fans have every right to express their dissatisfaction.
@@ianrichardmorrissey6082ian fans can applaud and cheer good play and and show contempt by remaining quiet and or leaving the ground immediately on the full time whistle. However shouting Tino whilst big Dan is still on the pitch is one of the no no’s . He was put played by a faster winger he is not the build of a fast lean winger and was caught out but that’s up to the manager who should have seen this weakness.
I fear a bigger capacity ground and a couple of poor performances and the atmosphere will be even worse and so we will be no different than the Man U supporters that are criticised more often or not.
Maybe my views are based on the fact that I’ve never left the ground before half time and I’ve never booed but remained silent and I’ve seen years of crap I can assure you.
For me watching the game i thought the midfield was sloppy and slow at closing down. That left the defence pushing to far up the pitch to help out and not being able to get back in time. We always seem to be missing a playe or twor that can plug the gap. I think miley and longy are not very good at winning the ball back and a bit sloppy with passes.
Theyre both Championship players. Too slow and weak at this level
If Lewis Hall had started a game that poorly Howe would have subbed him after 10 mins but wont take Burn off even though every single person in the stadium could see he was gonna lose us the game. I tweeted before half time that Burn would lose us the game...Im no expert, it was just plainly obvious what their game plan was and Burn was all over the shop. He isnt even an average CB let alone LB
Favouritism
Has Hayden done something terrible, not to be kept as an option on the bench? Also Dwight Gayle is a free agent, third striker option? I think that Newcastle are doing great, the players aren't suddenly bad players when they have an off day. Eddie has done a job beyond my wildest expectations, I would have a statue of him outside St James given the chance. I think Eddie is as safe as houses, as long as the PIF can't invest as they want, nobody could do a better job with the resources we have! We are always doubly disappointed when Newcastle don't win as your videos aren't quite as upbeat! Keep up the good work!
The fact is when Dan got injured and Tino came in he was outstanding and should have kept his place but EH decided Dan goes straight back in which is on him.
Favoritism
While loyalty to players is all well and good, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with a manager taking off a player (no matter who, or how good they are) and saying “sorry, it’s just not your game today”.
Our manager knows no such concept.
Great game, even if it was two points dropped. Great to see Barnes back.
At last, a positive comment, I remember when a score draw was a great outcome on the pools, take the point lads and move on
Such a frustrating match. I thought Miley and Longstaff were timid in the tackle and sloppy. Miggy was a passenger. I'll try and defend the indefensible by saying I thinknthe crowd were aiming the Tino chant at Howe rather than Burn. It was still a low class moment mind. Ultimately on Howe. I'm such a Howe fan and don't want to dog him out as I've been resolute in believing he's such a detailed manager and focused on marginal.improvwment that I really believed he would learn from mistakes and adapt his style to be more pro-active sooner. But he needs to start doing this quickly now. To cite the consideration of Lutons arial threat would be some form of defense but Lutons first saw them win 2 heads in our box almost unchallenged. Like you say Burn needed help and didn't get it until it was way too late. A disappointing day onfield and off ultimately.
Eddie has the same old English managers syndrome: Pick me favourites. Instead of being ruthless.
He's like Steve Cooper
He's perfect for the England national team. Hope they give a call in the summer
Is there a case to move Schar into midfield??
Not mobile enough.
Chaotic was a good description. As for DB, I love the guy but his weakness was exploited today. I still like Gordon through the centre.
Agree Craig - there was no control in midfield and Luton cut through us far too easily. Our intensity isn't as unrelenting over the 90 minutes as it was last season.
Disagree about the crowd - not substituting Dan Burn MUCH, MUCH EARLIER was a big mistake & Eddie is to blame for that, as well as forcing fans into calling for Tino in frustration.
Cheers Craig. Trippier defo our best player but did cost us a goal when he stepped up and they got in behind. Having him and burn push up just played into their hands on the counter. No midfield whatsoever. Wasteful in attack and Gordon not a striker. Burn was awful but not his fault, that’s on howe. Nobody to support him or double up so was left exposed. Just lacks pace full stop. However we should never be in a position where a player needs support all game to help him out. Liv wouldn’t have had those problems, Villa a prime example but Howe changed it. We should be able to play a LB who can do the job on his own. Disagree with you over the crowd singing for Liv, the whole world saw what happened all game and Howe did nothing until 2 behind. Shocking game management today. I think we would have won if Liv was playing LB for sure.
Goals were awful and the 4th has happened like that numerous times this season, it’s like we don’t see the extra man wide or have the brains to cover that side (again where is burn ?, left upfield an no pace to get back). 1st nobody picking up scorer so free header, 2nd we lose in middle and keeper pushes it out to Barclay (could have done better). 3rd burn outpaced and pulled back, botman was coming over to cover. Awful decision to do that.
Agree we scored a 4th and had 27 mins left and did nothing. They should have scored at the end also.
Happy we can come back, but it’s a game we should have had 3 or 4 in the first half and out of sight. 2 points dropped.
we played into lutons hand they were so open we thought possibly this was gonna be easy to break on them and when we went 2-1 up they were still pressing high and we went lax and the game opened up totally, we need to fix the midfield balance as we cant add new players now its got no defensive solidity in midfield. love miley but he never gets back goal side after the opposition breaks which leaves us open too often. we need willock back ASAP too add some legs in there but looks like it could be a tough end to season. look at all the comments slating howe forgetting 6 months ago he was the best thing since sliced bread he will turn things around every team goes through bad form we cant just go up up up there always has to be a plateau before we go again. just wait until the summer when we can buy and re start to rebuild.
Juat dont get that we have 2 capable left backs in tino and hall then keep dam butn as a rotaring centre back ,miley aye he is an alright player but he has 1 speed and thats jog defo missing joelinton and willock other than that rest of the team played alright
Great coverage of a kaotic game ,seen so many times by fans /supporters of this club 😮1984 threw away a four goal lead that day got lucky draw 🤔cheers
A common theme re centre mid defensive. Need a proper chopper blocker in there to protect covering goalie. If we had that we would tighten up at back and alleviate pressure on the (now normal) solo striker to score more than once
Eddie will get himself the sack. Is he single handedly trying to get himself booted out the door? Even someone who doesn't watch football would know that Burn should have come off after 20-30 mins, so what will his Boss' be thinking?
Amanda: "Eddie just a quick question, I was at the game, and I saw Dan really struggling, and you had a £40m player who is young, quick and attack minded and also a great defender on the bench? Why would you wait until 69m to bring him on or even start him....Just saying is'all". "something to think about sweetie.....you wanted players in maybe use them.....🤷♀"
Burn himself would be thinking "whens the gaffa taking me off....Bloody hell... take me off gaffa"
Eddie has got his favourites will bite him in the ass when he gets his P45 though … can’t be waiting until 4 goals go in before changing it .. everybody with a tiny bit common sense could see burn was getting left for dead after 10-15 mins
People asking questions of Howe… we’ve come so far in 2 yrs. if Howe goes we are back to square one. Be patient getting better is never straightforward.
They are valid questions. Nobody is beyond questions.
Hard questions need asking for a change.
Agreed, our issues are mainly in midfield. Id like to see them try 4 in midfield sometimes. As for Burn I think he is being targeted by opposing teams and probably shouldn't be an automatic starter but yes, the reaction of the crowd was a bit disrespectful.
Come on, Craig, you have to ask these awkward questions to Eddie about Dan burns speed he's not good enough as a left back,livermento or hall should play there.
Craig, do you think the midfield control could have been better had Sandro Toonali been playing out there ? Is he what we are missing? Along with Joe Willockinho?
He's banned, or didn't you know 😊
@toonarmy1946 is he ? I just thought we had given him the season off to acclimatise, learn the lingo, visit Bamburgh Castle and the Angel of the North and Whitley Bay ..
Replace Burn and Almiron with Livramento and Barnes at half time we win that game. That's on poor decisions from management.
Craig no disrespect but you dont understand tactics. The issue is not the midfielders its both full backs, more so Burn but also Trips at times recently. Both getting caught too far up the pitch. Trips gets away with it more as he has positional intelligence but Burn is terrible. The system we play relies on full backs getting foward and supporting the midfielders so they can be compact. If one full back isnt there then one CM has to cover the flank in his absence creating a hole in midfield.
Its about pace and energy. Trips is slowing down but his positioning is usually on point...Burn gets caught out every time he ventures forward.
The full backs job is to push forward creating a flat 5 across the middle in transition...Tino plays the role perfectly, he drifts in to midfield allowing CM to support the CF
Yeah I think they need to come up with a new system in the summer, other teams have done their homework on us now and there haven't been many options to rotate lately. It would be risky to make major changes at this point though.
I know we are missing Tonali and Joelington in the midfield but conceding 4 at home to Luton is bad, I am worried about Eddie's tactics tbh. I think we might see a new manager with a cash injection at sjp come the summer
Gotta admit it, you talk a lot of sense and any toon fan that doesn't agree are in denial.