Battlefield still has no competition...

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  • čas přidán 22. 04. 2024
  • Battlefield doesn't have many alternatives or direct competitors but why and for how much longer? Let's play the excellent Battlefield 5 and discuss. Leave a LIKE and a comment, thanks for watching.
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  • @illbeback2YT
    @illbeback2YT Před 13 dny +1306

    Still mourning. BF3 and BF4 were the golden days.

  • @InternetShark
    @InternetShark Před 13 dny +656

    I'm surprised Jack didn't bring up World War 3. Its a failure, but it attempted to do battlefield

    • @aboveaveragebayleaf9216
      @aboveaveragebayleaf9216 Před 13 dny +28

      It was fun, but honestly a hassle to update with the peer to peer system. It tended to be pretty slow

    • @xmesaj2
      @xmesaj2 Před 13 dny +61

      Wasted potential due to it's lack of identity. First they charged money for purchasing the beta, then after a year they made it free and yet again they are reworking it because they don't have idea what direction the game should be going, for the 3rd time or more... lost all hopes, too much crap - bugs, dead matchmaking, poor performance. Not even worth mentioning anymore when you got game like Battlebit around

    • @edyslavico3761
      @edyslavico3761 Před 13 dny +44

      I played it and the game itself is good. Gunplay, vehicles, maps, everything. What killed it is poor management, marketing and that idiotic third party launcher.

    • @R-SXX
      @R-SXX Před 13 dny

      ​@@edyslavico3761farm51 even sold the ip and game, I dont even know if farm is doing anything right now, hopefully the studio wont shut down

    • @haroldadams3951
      @haroldadams3951 Před 13 dny +10

      What ever happened to BattleBit? I remember all the BF content creators drooling over that game for a few months and then the hype just went quiet…

  • @JUmayNOT
    @JUmayNOT Před 13 dny +368

    The fact that Jack can have such a detailed one-sided conversation while playing at such a level of concentration is astounding.

    • @Peanutbutterbutnotjelly
      @Peanutbutterbutnotjelly Před 13 dny +9

      It’s called easy plays

    • @trashpanda003
      @trashpanda003 Před 13 dny +18

      He's been playing games for ages im sure its second nature now

    • @jamessutton2126
      @jamessutton2126 Před 13 dny +67

      I think he's doing a voiceover and just pretending he is commentating live. The gameplay often cuts while he continues exactly what he was saying. Sorry to ruin the illusion.

    • @JUmayNOT
      @JUmayNOT Před 13 dny +13

      @@jamessutton2126 Very true, he could also be cutting in his actual game play voice over in between his explanations.

    • @dontplay9937
      @dontplay9937 Před 13 dny +2

      @@jamessutton2126that’s the thing that separates good and bad players us good players can have a conversation with ease and still do better than you while focusing on

  • @keithsmith7503
    @keithsmith7503 Před 13 dny +172

    There is nothing like bf1! Visuals, real experimental rifles, the soundtracks, that over the top satisfactory headshot sound. Such a lovely game!

    • @chrisjohn7933
      @chrisjohn7933 Před 13 dny +2

      Agreed mate. And they also went into historical detail regarding regiments, weapons and armory used. It was awesome.

    • @michaelrains64295
      @michaelrains64295 Před 13 dny +9

      The last competent BF title.

    • @goufr3540
      @goufr3540 Před 11 dny +1

      That was the last great BF game. Although as it is now, much like with COD. Both games have just fallen so far behind everything else lately that its probably time to retire them.

    • @silent_fungus
      @silent_fungus Před 10 dny +6

      I play BF1 almost everyday.

    • @keithsmith7503
      @keithsmith7503 Před 10 dny

      @@silent_fungus have a hard time finding a game on pc on the weekday. Weekends I have better luck. Make sure to jump back in when a tubow hypes it up again.

  • @gregorypegory1781
    @gregorypegory1781 Před 13 dny +160

    Im an old guy, I remember BF2 special forces, night vsion, grappling hooks! Remember Bad company 2? The destruction! BF3 tank battles! Thanks for sharing.

    • @nnehila
      @nnehila Před 13 dny +15

      Yea that expansion blew my mind when it came out!

    • @marcbrockhoff
      @marcbrockhoff Před 13 dny +2

      @@nnehila What a nostalgia

    • @Olterior
      @Olterior Před 13 dny +4

      BF2 was a lifetime ago. It was no BS battlefield. Then BC2 destruction was just wow. Yeah we lost some features, but BF3 and BF4 brought some of it back. But by BF3 DICE started releasing broken messy games, that get fixed 2 years post launch just in time for DICE to abandon the game. Like BF2042 is just getting good now, and they are abandoning it.
      Go back and play BF5 now. Game is great. On release it was a mess. Same with BF1. People praise BF5 now, but on release it was a mess.

    • @ittapupu7406
      @ittapupu7406 Před 13 dny +7

      @@Olterior BF1 was most certainly not a mess on release, it worked right out of box on both console and pc. They rest of what you said though, 100% agree.

    • @montanaslin5740
      @montanaslin5740 Před 12 dny

      Yeah dude we are old too

  • @AuryIris
    @AuryIris Před 13 dny +169

    Battlefield V has some really beautiful, colorful, inspiring graphics. So many different interesting maps, you can find many great detailes, it's almost a pity for it to be no longer existent, because it's just an Artwork. The gameplay is important and very well done, but also the historic feeling, the music, the sounds of explosions, planes, soldiers and even flies are so well done. You have not only soldiers but also vehicles, tanks, plaines, stationary weapons, so many to chose from. Gorgeous maps such as the Pacific, Provence, Arres, Rotterdam... It is also a great beginner game. At first, players are just in awe. For example, I have never played in my life a game with a controller or a what would you call a "serious" game till I was 23 yo, then I started playing Battlefield V. My bf introduced me to the "gaming" world. It was my first game, I practiced, I enjoyed it so much as a newcomer, I then played other games like COD, and now I am back still playing BFV 6 years later. It is calming, it is fun, I can go full playing sweaty or just chilling on the maps, I meet the same players on my servers in Europe, it comforts me, it is not too toxic, it amuses me so much, I love it.

    • @jordondeannon5501
      @jordondeannon5501 Před 13 dny +4

      Wholesome. Also true!

    • @Khofax
      @Khofax Před 13 dny +11

      If you haven’t played it yet BF1 is also more than worth it and delivers an even greater cinematic experience than BFV in my opinion. Anyhow enjoy

    • @AuryIris
      @AuryIris Před 13 dny +5

      @@Khofax I have and I love it! Thank you none the less! I can’t and won’t choose which is better, I enjoy wholeheartedly both games, depwnding on the mood. Battlefield 1 is really awesome

    • @ZIZOUPINDIS
      @ZIZOUPINDIS Před 13 dny +1

      You play on Xbox ?

    • @haynes966
      @haynes966 Před 12 dny +3

      yeah bfv is very vibrant and pretty where as bf1 I feel captures war better as the lighting and colors are more grim and dark, both look very good though

  • @ohnaww
    @ohnaww Před 13 dny +194

    The first Homefront’s multiplayer had some Battlefield elements to it.
    Man, I miss it.

    • @isken6593
      @isken6593 Před 13 dny +11

      And the shooting felt very unique compared to the classic shooters at the time. It was weird but also satisfying 😅 good times

    • @smokierandall2531
      @smokierandall2531 Před 13 dny

      😢

    • @BrilliantBenGaming
      @BrilliantBenGaming Před 13 dny +2

      I remember immediately returning my copy to buy BF3 and play that with my friends because no one wanted to play Homefront. I did enjoy the multiplayer beta

    • @samtheman2144
      @samtheman2144 Před 13 dny +9

      Underrated multiplayer. I loved the battle point system. Getting the attack helicopter was sick

    • @ConnSoIo
      @ConnSoIo Před 13 dny +2

      This game is so forgotten about

  • @lynxproductions
    @lynxproductions Před 13 dny +350

    Battlebit was the closest one in my opinion.

    • @AoGbeverage16
      @AoGbeverage16 Před 13 dny +22

      Still waiting for it to hit consoles..
      Has so much potential

    • @lpk822
      @lpk822 Před 13 dny +6

      yeah agreed, real shame it died tho

    • @GuitarooMan93
      @GuitarooMan93 Před 13 dny +5

      Except for immersion

    • @RichSmithson
      @RichSmithson Před 13 dny +42

      @@lpk822the devs killed it. Wouldn’t listen to feedback and ideas the fan base had were shut down constantly by that 1 dev who thought he knew better.

    • @SHOOTER3258
      @SHOOTER3258 Před 13 dny +1

      What happen to that game?

  • @TYSL
    @TYSL Před 13 dny +102

    I hated Battlefield 1942 for such a longtime when it came out. It was ruining our Friday nights post-work MP sesh. Wolfenstien was still fresh at that point, with a healthy player base, delivering that Q3-paced shooter gameplay (but with the MP40 instead of the Railgun). But. Everyone wanted to play this Battlefield-thing, which looked sluggish in comparison. And why did it need vehicles? “That’s not what a shooter is all about…”.
    Then one evening I bit the bullet and stepped up to try it: instant fan for life.
    When you switch off a game on your machine but you can’t switch it off in your head; that’s the mark of a very special title. How many of us have gone to bed (as it’s getting light outside) still replaying moments from that evenings BF session.
    When BF works it’s lightning in a bottle.

    • @llllllllllllllllllllllIlI
      @llllllllllllllllllllllIlI Před 13 dny +1

      TLDR

    • @simple_simon
      @simple_simon Před 13 dny +3

      Enemy territory is one of my favourite games ever played. "firing for effect!"

    • @a0000a1234
      @a0000a1234 Před 13 dny

      @@llllllllllllllllllllllIlI😂

    • @nicholasfaber9695
      @nicholasfaber9695 Před 12 dny +2

      @@llllllllllllllllllllllIlIwasnt even that long bro

    • @Shortay1325
      @Shortay1325 Před 12 dny +2

      This was me with BF2. I made really good friends with a group of guys on BF2 back in 2009. We still talk regularly to this day and some of us have met each other in person. We would all stay up super late during the summer off school playing BF2 and various BF2 mods like Sandbox. Those were the days! Good times.

  • @LDacic
    @LDacic Před 13 dny +94

    Jack casually carrying his entire team while chatting with us. Brilliant.
    Tbf, the game running that smooth on those settings does help.
    Cheers

    • @dongyschlontong-ck5xg
      @dongyschlontong-ck5xg Před 13 dny +2

      It's edited to look that way. He does a voiceover.

    • @kaustie
      @kaustie Před 12 dny +3

      @@dongyschlontong-ck5xg It's not voiceover bro, there are many parts of the video that he talks about the gameplay itself

    • @AcerProRokerInc
      @AcerProRokerInc Před 12 dny +1

      It's a voice over 😂 "It's not because he talks about gameplay" 🤦🤦🤦🤦

    • @kaustie
      @kaustie Před 12 dny +1

      @@AcerProRokerInc gameplay itself, talking about what he was doing at the moment and the reactions he had 😮‍💨

  • @yakamoa177
    @yakamoa177 Před 13 dny +74

    Surprised no ones done a Warhammer 40k BF type game. That would be awesome

  • @alexmeyburgh9668
    @alexmeyburgh9668 Před 13 dny +51

    From South Africa, loving BFV. Unfortunately it's always 120ms for me to play on Singapore servers 😢. Loving it more than 2042 right now!
    Love the content Jack!

    • @NerdisticTouch
      @NerdisticTouch Před 11 dny

      BROOOOOOOO!!!!!! i still jump on from time to time on Bf1 and i play EU servers ... no one plays on the SA ones ...

    • @kaz_araya7960
      @kaz_araya7960 Před 7 dny

      I play on SG servers and I'm in Malaysia (right next to SG) and it's dead. I waited in an empty lobby for 15 minutes and only one guy joined, who then Immediately left. Man i wish this game was so much more popular in Asia

  • @JackOfBlackPhoenix
    @JackOfBlackPhoenix Před 13 dny +29

    BattleBit and World War 3 were the closest, shame their potential was killed by their own devs (then again, pretty much same happened with Battlefield itself)

    • @5at5una
      @5at5una Před 13 dny +5

      yeah WW3 got the feeling of BF4 with BF5 movement style and squad call in.. just no destruction
      but they just cant get the server and player on it

    • @Olterior
      @Olterior Před 13 dny +4

      @@5at5una Whilst the destruction is super cool, I think at the moment the tech just can't provide us large scale destruction without compromising on gameplay. If they were to do a 24/32 player BF game like they did BC2 I think the quality of gameplay would be better and destruction could be turned up. With 64+ players it's better to have no destruction and use those resources in making sure the netcode is solid.

  • @CitizenKang
    @CitizenKang Před 13 dny +37

    LOL right before you destroyed the statue, I thought to myself "He should try to destroy that statue."

  • @petariliev110
    @petariliev110 Před 10 dny +3

    BF5 needs 2 Eastern Front maps, what an underlooked game

  • @Nomadic2b34u-bt4zs
    @Nomadic2b34u-bt4zs Před 13 dny +19

    Give us the CTE back with map editor. If dice can't be bothered to make maps, the community will, I'd like to see a procedurally generated city map too.

    • @TheoriginalBMT
      @TheoriginalBMT Před 13 dny +2

      It's a missed opportunity for DICE to not have a map editor. It allows a community to engage and enhance.

  • @abstractminds1433
    @abstractminds1433 Před 13 dny +155

    It's crazy just how long BF5 has stayed relevant! What a great game.

    • @NRobbi42
      @NRobbi42 Před 13 dny +30

      Definitely overhated when it came out, and it only got better.
      Apparently people think "overhated" = great

    • @badass6300
      @badass6300 Před 13 dny +24

      @@NRobbi42 Not overhated at launch, it came out broken and unfinished, while trying to change history. Now it's great.

    • @beyahoyo
      @beyahoyo Před 13 dny +3

      I'm on bfv a couple hours every day still love it

    • @aapferb694
      @aapferb694 Před 13 dny +16

      ​@@badass6300 "Trying to change history" lol found one

    • @vhscopyofseinfeld
      @vhscopyofseinfeld Před 13 dny +5

      @@NRobbi42what?? It was a disaster for years

  • @bgorley
    @bgorley Před 13 dny +9

    There’s nothing better. It’s hands down my favorite game franchise for all the reasons you listed. The immersion, the variety maps, vehicles, aircrafts, ships, boats, watercraft, class load-outs, the music, the game play, the gun play, the necessary team play, and last but not least the destruction. Seeing the next best version of such a game on a modern engine could take the top spot in FPS gaming for the next decade if done right.

  • @ywsx6489
    @ywsx6489 Před 13 dny +8

    I was there Jack... 3000 years ago when BF1942 released... i was immediately hooked. i loved being just a normal soldier in a big battle.

  • @YodaGoat44
    @YodaGoat44 Před 13 dny +13

    Imagine Dice spending a year making updates for all their old games. Maps, weapons, classes, etc

    • @truthseeker9454
      @truthseeker9454 Před 13 dny +1

      I'll wager it would win back many disaffected players.

    • @connorbranscombe6819
      @connorbranscombe6819 Před 13 dny +2

      @@truthseeker9454genuinely doubt it, although I’d like to see it, but given the vitriol in this community most would probably find an excuse to get mad about it.

    • @michaelrains64295
      @michaelrains64295 Před 13 dny +1

      I’d pay for BF1 dlc. Nothing will make me play any newer BF games.

    • @truthseeker9454
      @truthseeker9454 Před 10 dny +1

      @@connorbranscombe6819 I hear you. It's sad, really. I played games like MOHAA, SH and BT many years ago. Those were some of the best times I've ever had online. Those games had bugs and were vulnerable to cheats, but the player community banded together to laugh about the bugs and ban the cheaters.
      These more modern games have stunning graphics and some amazing features, but it seems players complain about *everything.* It's either too much this or not enough that. I'd honestly hate to have the job of trying to please them.
      I just know I'm done with chasing specs and always having to buy more expensive hardware to play the latest games. I think there are a lot of others who feel that way, too -- hence the large number of players still playing BF 1 and BF V. I'm among them. I'd pay for new content for those games as long as my computer can run them; I think others might as well. Peace, brother!

  • @josenorberto9787
    @josenorberto9787 Před 13 dny +45

    I think there is no "competition" because the market is already filled with BF itself, people don't feel the need to play something that is almost BF but is not BF. Jack mentioned many examples of games that have incorporated the BF style of gameplay with their own "thing": oh this is Star Wars BF; oh this is Roblox BF; oh this is milsim BF, etc. Even the spot for "World War I/II BF" is filled (very well btw) by BF itself. To this day (even with BF2042) EA still does the BF formula well enough to make it relevant. Maybe if in the next iterations of BF EA and Dice keep making mistakes, someone else will make a decent game that looks basically exactly like the BF that we know today and then we'll have real competition for BF's spot in the market.

    • @Olterior
      @Olterior Před 13 dny +3

      Also with how often they release new games, graphically the 2/3 most recent games almost always look almost as good as the most recent game. Case and point BF1, BF5 and BF2042 look very similar graphically. So If I want my BF fix in a WW2 setting or WW1 setting, I already have Battlefield games with decent populations to play with. Problem is that most BF players are arcade shooter players first, so stuff like Squad are too different from core gameplay of BF. Same reason why COD and Counter-strike are both FPS shooters, but have wildly different playerbases.
      I hate what EA has done with DICE and Battlefield, but it works for them. Each BF gets bad reviews on launch, then they work on fixing the game, then EA tells them to go make new game yesterday.

    • @rokker333
      @rokker333 Před 13 dny +2

      I agree. And I am saying for a long time now, the BF crowd seems to die out. I guess younger players are no longer that much attracted to BF mechanics. That hurts sales and revenue compared to other AAA games. And it is a shame. BF evolved 25 years ago and back then there was at least a few similar games. E.g. Enemy Territory (RTCW ET). I played this about till 2005 and switched then to BF BC2.

    • @TGFGamesta
      @TGFGamesta Před 12 dny +2

      This is a really good point well made. However, to play devils advocate for a minute - Healthy competition is how this specific genre will flourish. If one company/dev has the monopoly, you will see lack of effort because no one is even in the same league. It is like playing Poker with yourself lol. My view is that a big dev needs to go into direct competition with them to stop EA getting complacent. I also think that they have over complicated the mechanics for the past 2, trying to concentrate on visuals over everything else. This is just my view though, for what it is worth. I am yearning for a battlefield with gunplay & vehicles from BF4, map design from BF3 and visuals from BF1. No specialists, no 2 clips before going to an ammo dump (That's what engineers are for), no bugs at launch & just a fun sandbox game.

  • @pain7958
    @pain7958 Před 13 dny +11

    Enlisted is another alternative as long as you count the bots for it's large scale warfare. It's only 10v10, but each player can have 9 controllable soldiers each.

    • @edyslavico3761
      @edyslavico3761 Před 13 dny +3

      Unfortunately the grind is comically long. It's a worse version than war thunder and that's saying something.

    • @Shortay1325
      @Shortay1325 Před 12 dny +1

      I gave Enlisted a chance and it was quite fun. However, I was getting sick of the huge grind feeling. As soon as you thought you were going somewhere, you had to start grinding from scratch yet again with another side. I do have to say it is a fun take where you can control a squad online. Just so dang grindy.

  • @Eeveefall
    @Eeveefall Před 13 dny +7

    I think the simple reason Battlefield doesn't get any competition is because it doesn't make enough money as hero shooters or simpler shooter games.
    Most FPS games seem to have a heavy emphasis on lootboxes and cosmetics and make a stupid amount of money of them, while being more simple to make gameplay wise (Overwatch, Valorant, COD, etc.)
    Theres a lot going on in a BF game so I figure its hard to design servers that handle it all, especially given the graphical fidelity. I imagine that's why Battlebit can do it with 200+ players. And tbh, I feel like if another big publisher tried it, it would be too much of a risk since they would try to keep costs low and still manage to be worse than older BFs. Maybe, idk

    • @KontrolStyle
      @KontrolStyle Před 13 dny

      You nailed it, "too much risk" vs how much money it costs to make vs how much money they HAVE to make. cheers

  • @Seanmmvi
    @Seanmmvi Před 13 dny +84

    BFV has been excellent... I haven't left it. I would pay $100 for a 10 map expansion pack for BFV - along with new weapons and vehicles.

    • @skalmanidealman
      @skalmanidealman Před 13 dny +4

      Yes that would be so fun! Don't even need new weapons just new maps. Would be easy money for EA

    • @TheAAminat
      @TheAAminat Před 13 dny +2

      same !!!!

    • @leviwinkelmann9110
      @leviwinkelmann9110 Před 13 dny +3

      that would be a dream

    • @SB-in8rw
      @SB-in8rw Před 13 dny +1

      Same but for BF 1

    • @IsraelSocial
      @IsraelSocial Před 13 dny

      I wish bf5 had 120+ players and delete the limits on conquer! Is so annoying when you die after cross the line

  • @evanhansen2354
    @evanhansen2354 Před 13 dny +15

    I think it does not have a ton of competition is because it has a grip on a lot of the fans of the genre with the whole combined arms thing. They also do it relatively well. This is complete speculation, but I think that they don't want to try because they think they will fail? I do think that Battle.bit did the gameplay justice though!

  • @neonicecube908
    @neonicecube908 Před 13 dny +4

    Rising Storm 2 has alot of things that make bf games great, it does have large maps, squads, classes and helicopters too.

  • @CitizenKang
    @CitizenKang Před 13 dny +47

    I finally deleted BF2042 from my PS5. The new map is uninspired. I'm re-downloading BFV now.

    • @KontrolStyle
      @KontrolStyle Před 13 dny

      sad to see you go, have fun bfv o7

    • @Reynoldz182
      @Reynoldz182 Před 10 dny

      That's exactly what I did. I BF1 and BF5 are still kickin.

    • @dhruvster10
      @dhruvster10 Před 6 dny

      Smart choice. 2042 is a disgrace to the franchise

  • @dadavinci
    @dadavinci Před 13 dny +11

    We need a full scale Battlebits...or atleast a console port.
    A series like Hell Let Loose can thrive in different timelines because they have a solid foundation as is. But that's committing to a more sim-shooter type game.

    • @daylightdies7194
      @daylightdies7194 Před 13 dny

      The only thing I have against that is pc would then be ignored and no consideration to how any changes would impact pc players like nerfs and things

  • @motiv8j
    @motiv8j Před 13 dny +11

    I love bf5. It was the best squad game with your mates, without the sweat of sbmm. Sniping and tank busting was so much fun. I’m a console player and it looks like Helldivers has that same squad/mates feel?

  • @whogg0521
    @whogg0521 Před 13 dny +5

    I love battlefield, even with its flaws, since BC2 and watching your vids, Level cap, etc. I love the immersion, even when not playing well. Side note..I will never NOT be amazed how you play so well and do commentary at the same time.

  • @fmoll8748
    @fmoll8748 Před 13 dny +3

    nice video. as a nowadays very casual gamer, i don't have the insights into the more detailed gameplay mechanics or history of a game. quite interesting to hear an "experienced" view on modern gaming and thoughts on why the industry is how it is atm.

  • @GS-vb3zn
    @GS-vb3zn Před 13 dny +86

    2042 has competition because it’s pretty mid. But, yah, BFV (and BF1) have no equal.

    • @snarl3027
      @snarl3027 Před 13 dny +7

      You’re 100% right! BF4 was the best game ever made.

    • @StoneCorazon
      @StoneCorazon Před 13 dny

      yeah but it really doesnt

    • @fxthePunisher
      @fxthePunisher Před 13 dny

      Where??

    • @solid5502
      @solid5502 Před 13 dny +1

      Mid?

    • @jesse76th96
      @jesse76th96 Před 13 dny

      @@snarl3027 BF3 was better overall, BF4 had the better mechanics but worse maps

  • @roguesquadron6963
    @roguesquadron6963 Před 13 dny +3

    It’s amazing how nonchalantly you can decimate a team whilst talking about games and such. Gg’s!

  • @kevingenthe2629
    @kevingenthe2629 Před 13 dny +9

    You mentioned Quake and Unreal Tournament towards the end, and I've been wondering recently about what happened to the arena shooter genre, as I never really got to experience it and feel like I would really enjoy those kinds of games. I'd love to hear your thoughts on that topic as well.

    • @SceneArtisan
      @SceneArtisan Před 13 dny +4

      Imagine the return of arena shooters! Boo yaa!

    • @joshallen-hallam2838
      @joshallen-hallam2838 Před 13 dny +3

      I still love Halo for example but one thing jack didn't touch so much on and off subject slightly is sandbox arena shooters. Man they're so fun and I miss the old school unreal tournament / quake / halo madness. Nonetheless BF is still king

    • @TheoriginalBMT
      @TheoriginalBMT Před 13 dny +1

      He had talked about it in a video. Not sure which one. I would consider Halo a modern version of an arena shooter. But it is very different than quake and unreal with pacing

    • @KontrolStyle
      @KontrolStyle Před 13 dny +2

      the 30 year olds want 5v5 cs like, or war like shooters they can't handle the quake shooters. It's just my take, they get bored of the die/respawn/die type game play but can do that if they are drinking water / food in a dayz type game -- weird huh? arena shooters are dead and most of us 'boomers' are sad about it, but what can you do? gotta just join the newer type of gamer and deal with it (hence why i forced myself to learn bf2042 / bb / cod (the horror) type games.

    • @jesse76th96
      @jesse76th96 Před 13 dny

      Lawbreakers happened

  • @homepie6046
    @homepie6046 Před 13 dny +3

    Good to see you back, Jack.

  • @Tailored_Creations
    @Tailored_Creations Před 13 dny +7

    Anyone remember M.A.G ? Either 128 or 256 multiplayer maps back in ps3 days.

    • @Retrofire-47
      @Retrofire-47 Před 13 dny

      Yup! loved it
      like so many great games, forsaken by time

    • @Dragonfury3000
      @Dragonfury3000 Před 13 dny

      Shame it never got a follow up

  • @nedfo72
    @nedfo72 Před 13 dny +9

    I would put ww3 in the list, but still isn't the same for sure

    • @christopherstone4336
      @christopherstone4336 Před 13 dny +1

      WW3 will never get off the ground. Devs really kinda fucked it on its launch sadly. They should have moved it to console when it had the hype.

  • @ScottDincorn
    @ScottDincorn Před 13 dny

    Damn, what an amazing map you were playing on. It has so many different vibes and settings and flows really nice. Wild how good this game still looks 🤯

  • @whiskeyjuliet
    @whiskeyjuliet Před 13 dny +5

    It was tried at one point with the game Frontlines: Fuel of War and I don't think most people ever even heard of it and this was 2008 right between 2142 and BC2. 🤷‍♂

    • @benrockwell1503
      @benrockwell1503 Před 13 dny +3

      I was in the Beta for that game. It had potential but was kind of stillborn. It was released in a very basic state and pretty much abandoned as the studio that made it (Kaos) moved on to Homefront. As a side note, many of the developers at Kaos previously worked on the Desert Combat mode for 1942 that inspired BF2.

    • @TheoriginalBMT
      @TheoriginalBMT Před 13 dny

      It was interesting. Underwhelming at times, but I still played it a bunch.

  • @nnehila
    @nnehila Před 13 dny +3

    Been playing so much battlebit... Really looking forward to their big update coming soon

  • @evandierker2272
    @evandierker2272 Před 13 dny +7

    Play Easy red 2!
    In all honesty the vibe is more similar to OG battlefront, and the graphics arent great, but the game is fantastic. And the kid making it has made massive strides in the time ive had the game. Theres been several free dlc with tons of maps.

    • @corndogfilms
      @corndogfilms Před 13 dny

      I was thinking the same thing got the game on xbox and have been having an absolute blast hope more people check it out

    • @PtJones
      @PtJones Před 12 dny

      Was about to mention this title until I saw your comment.
      Def something to checkout. Basically a budget-friendly bf game with full crossplay support!

    • @FryCook87
      @FryCook87 Před 11 dny

      that game is fucking terrible

    • @corndogfilms
      @corndogfilms Před 11 dny

      @@FryCook87 who hurt you man

    • @FryCook87
      @FryCook87 Před 11 dny

      @@corndogfilms im being serious i played the thing with a friend and it was unbearable

  • @taldavis119
    @taldavis119 Před 13 dny +1

    This video had the same vibes as the guy who makes the train video, just instead of running around looking at trains you’re just mowing people down 😂

  • @Wushiemufu
    @Wushiemufu Před 13 dny

    Great question, I think it comes down to development difficulty and time investment getting all the features working together in a combined arms focused game. Like the flying just does not feel quite right in 2042 vs bf4 and everyone noticed. When all the features don't mesh well it really breaks the immersion. It is rare for a single game dev studio to have the engine experience to iterate all those different features with destruction and an engine capable of handling all the vehicle mechanics/physics. It is like 3 games in one but each game is harder to make because it has to work with all the others. I imagine being the project manager for such a team would be very difficult to say the least, whatever the case I hope more great combined arms games with destruction come out and I would love to see new dev teams try to create games like this.

  • @connornorton3552
    @connornorton3552 Před 13 dny +10

    Enlisted is among the list of games like battlefield

  • @B-U-T-C-H-E-R
    @B-U-T-C-H-E-R Před 13 dny +18

    BFV was way underrated. I never understood the hate, i loved it the whole time,it has the best movement of all battlefield games, and its better than any COD in the last couple handfuls of years

    • @MrDelgado559
      @MrDelgado559 Před 13 dny

      Because of the woke propaganda BS with there being female soldiers in WW2

    • @fxthePunisher
      @fxthePunisher Před 13 dny +2

      It came after bf1 people were sick from ww and it had many issues they wanted to put woke propaganda in it but then they fixed it and abandoned it to develop battleshit 2042 Angel does it again

    • @fxthePunisher
      @fxthePunisher Před 13 dny

      I really have enjoyed it too specially the Fliegerfaust to ruin a pilots day 😂

    • @benrockwell1503
      @benrockwell1503 Před 13 dny +2

      It's a pretty good game now, but people were frustrated with how the live service aspects of the game rolled out. There was very little content and the devs kept rebalancing things, creating massive swings in how the game played. Then Dice pulled the plug out very quickly just as the game started to find its footing.

    • @B-U-T-C-H-E-R
      @B-U-T-C-H-E-R Před 13 dny

      @@benrockwell1503 I remember they made one big balance pass, and then reverted it. I didn't remember too much after

  • @diesel581
    @diesel581 Před 12 dny

    Love the video as always! Still wish you showed the ending K/D. :( Since you're amazing as always it'd be like 50-5. Haha

  • @Drewww71
    @Drewww71 Před 13 dny

    Didn't hear a word you said :) Was enthralled in your game play! I wish I could be that good.

  • @vondoomgaming1224
    @vondoomgaming1224 Před 13 dny +4

    WW3 was a good battlefield style game, until they released it on Free-2-Play, changing the movement, sound (which was |EPIC) and gunplay, also the colur palette was enlivened which ruined the bleak atmosphere

    • @nedfo72
      @nedfo72 Před 13 dny +1

      Yup, game had potential, but ultimately fell pretty flat

  • @swancman
    @swancman Před 13 dny +14

    Hell Let Loose is my go to game. Haven't touched a Battlefield game in the last two years.

    • @solid5502
      @solid5502 Před 13 dny

      That game is amazing

    • @Dragonfury3000
      @Dragonfury3000 Před 13 dny

      I think that game is best for those that already played a ton of BF. I rather have a more casual game like cod or bf just to chill tbh

    • @indiana_bones5583
      @indiana_bones5583 Před 12 dny

      Haven’t played any other shooter after I picked up HLL

  • @rpb1310
    @rpb1310 Před 13 dny +1

    Nothing has come close to them early planetside 2 years. Some insane battles to be a part of that i will always remember.

  • @wololo10
    @wololo10 Před 13 dny +5

    There's battlebit, proximity chat is so much fun

    • @raptonsoul2557
      @raptonsoul2557 Před 13 dny

      Sad that it’s basically dead outside of North America

    • @Dragonfury3000
      @Dragonfury3000 Před 13 dny

      It needs a console release

    • @Swaguley
      @Swaguley Před 13 dny +1

      Dude I agree. I think if the next Battlefield incorporates the gunplay, proximity chat, and other features from Battlebit, it could be very successful.

  • @tomwest1382
    @tomwest1382 Před 13 dny +7

    Hell Let Loose is the go to ‘Battlefield’ style game right now. The best battlefield moments are from squad play, and HLL amplifies that on a large scale

    • @ATGbandit
      @ATGbandit Před 13 dny +8

      I love HLL. But it's not a BF competitor due to the fact that it's more of a Mil Sim. Completely different feels.

    • @Am_Yisrael_Chai_7
      @Am_Yisrael_Chai_7 Před 12 dny

      Not even close to BfV

  • @GhostSlayer81
    @GhostSlayer81 Před 13 dny +2

    People tried to kill this franchise just to let make them get better. Instead, the next battlefield flows more and more ..
    Battlefield has a huge engine, and Dice must reach to its limits so it can get near the recent COD and other tactical FPS Games that emphasize realism .
    But I really doubt it because Battlefield has this kinda limited as teamplay game more then rush lone wolf like COD..

  • @stylintylin77
    @stylintylin77 Před 13 dny +4

    Battlebit is my vote. The graphics dont mean too much if ur still having fun

  • @snaggyak
    @snaggyak Před 13 dny +11

    BV5 one of the greatest Battlefield games

  • @agm2499
    @agm2499 Před 13 dny +1

    I liked bf5 alot. Was always surprised people hated it. It was still true BF. I still play it ✊️

  • @JesusGarcia-re7dw
    @JesusGarcia-re7dw Před 13 dny

    I love that project reality got a shout out. Still play it till this day and still one of the most cinematic and co-operative experience I have ever had.

  • @christopherhendren117
    @christopherhendren117 Před 13 dny +4

    Battlefield: GI Joe, cell-shaded graphics, Joes VS Cobras.

  • @Greaseball_gamer
    @Greaseball_gamer Před 13 dny +3

    Battlebit is a better battlefield ?

  • @chigmeister1906
    @chigmeister1906 Před 13 dny +2

    Battlefront 3 needs to be made but it needs to be more similar to the originals mixed with the first dice version.

  • @Squalldim
    @Squalldim Před 13 dny

    I remember one game when I was a kid : Wolfenstein enemy territory. It was pure joy to play it. Very similar to the rush mode, more objectives turned game, but with classes and so on

  • @Shargon25
    @Shargon25 Před 13 dny +4

    I LOVE YOU JACK! PLEASE MARRY ME!!! 💍

  • @snowball7829
    @snowball7829 Před 12 dny

    Special type of guys can stroll around, taking on squads alone, while chatting about whats on their mind in a hectic game like Battlefield. Im so glad I found this video, I did not know about a lot of these other games like Battlefield

  • @shgdrums
    @shgdrums Před 13 dny

    I would Love Jack's PC set up his videos always look sooooooo crisp an clean! Definitely one of my favourite content creator's 👌

  • @cornejonando
    @cornejonando Před 12 dny

    The Harry Potter under the stairs reference is great, Jack. That's why I watch your content, you always have a reference to popular culture. In my opinion the commentary you do is underrated. Keep it coming I'm all for it.

  • @fataldreams2
    @fataldreams2 Před 11 dny +1

    I still play BF1. Just the WW I emersion is unreal to this day

  • @8lue17
    @8lue17 Před 13 dny +1

    I play this game so much that I always crave a new set of maps. I wish it had more content. I agree with Jack, there's just nothing as good as this

  • @MrSilencedGamer
    @MrSilencedGamer Před 13 dny

    From the perspective of a game developer, I can definitely say that the cost is part of the reason as to why developers and publishers aren't trying to make Battlefield like games. The cost means that a failure is way more painful, whilst a success is way less profitable.
    I however believe that there are two main reason why developers don't want to take that gamble. The first one is that there are already two massive games in the genre that are so entrenched that trying to take customers away from them seems like an impossibility.
    The other reason is kind of linked to that, and that is that gamers who play these kinds of games usually pick one and then play that game for a really long time. In genres like city builders for example, most players tend to play a lot of different city builders, which makes it an easier market to break into. In the FPS genre, players usually pick one line (CoD or BF) and then just play the newest or best game in that game series, which makes it a lot harder to break into that genre.
    When I talk about "players" in this context, I'm talking about the "typical" player of that genre. Therefore none of this needs to apply to you. Also, this is just my best guess based on my experience, I could be wrong.

  • @lagfx9
    @lagfx9 Před 13 dny

    Oh man flying the apache in Desert Combat was very hard in 1942, but extremely satisfying. modding for Battlefield back then was great.

  • @yaraelpoof7242
    @yaraelpoof7242 Před 13 dny +2

    Another problem is that a large number of games you mentioned are pc exclusive so there are even more limited options on console

  • @cowcrapper
    @cowcrapper Před 13 dny

    You ever try Starsiege Tribes back in the day? there's a new one that's supposed to come out or is already out?

  • @FelipeRubens
    @FelipeRubens Před 13 dny

    I believe the hardest thing to do in games like this is making a large scaled map and making it balanced for the players. Also, having a lot of players together, with explosions and all, is hard to optimize on certain hardwares.

  • @DocFoxTV
    @DocFoxTV Před 13 dny +1

    I think the BF games are just a genre in the gray zone of gaming. They're good on their own but everyone wants an extraction shooter; or at least it seems that way.
    I think BF is still fun and filled with so many unique moments that make it incomparable.

  • @KosherBeycon
    @KosherBeycon Před 13 dny +1

    I believe that in today's society, many individuals have developed a lack of patience and a desire for quick solutions. This, when combined with economic pressures and investor expectations, can create a negative situation. Rather than rushing to complete tasks, it is important to take the time to do things properly and thoroughly, instead of settling for a half-hearted attempt. Sometimes, the simplest solutions are the best. I mean, they don't need to reinvent the wheel, just take some proper time with it. That's my thoughts on it :). Thanks for the great content :)

  • @nealvertongen9979
    @nealvertongen9979 Před 9 dny

    I agree. Gaming for me always has had battlefield at the forefront. And although I used to switch to call of duty from time to time over the years, I have always been a battlefield fan. There is just something so unique in the classic battlefield bc2, bf3 and bf4 formula that kept me playing. The immersion of modern combat rifles, tanks, jets, choppers, being a trained soldier part of big armies, feeling like you REALLY were flying and parachuting out of choppers and buildings (something that bf2042 really lacks), the gritty feeling of war and cursing going on while fighting the other team, the squad play and conversations with random people playing together to push the objective. MAAAN I miss those fucking days...

  • @bassassin2695
    @bassassin2695 Před 12 dny

    I miss the good ole days of 24/7 hardcore no minimap operation metro with Max tickets and getting 300+ kills per round because they were 2hrs long. Id stay bipoded out with a 240B and an Acog at the turn stalls having the opposite team pinned down just outside the entrances of the metro building

  • @qopiqq3629
    @qopiqq3629 Před 12 dny

    I'd still like to have a gamemode in BFV where everyone can get in a plane or tank, no spawn limits. Just the big open maps, just all out chaos

  • @primedasymmium
    @primedasymmium Před 13 dny

    I yearn for a Battlefield 1 2
    No other multiplayer game has managed to capture the same level of emotion and epicness since then. Every game felt on multiple levels for me

  • @TehAlekzi
    @TehAlekzi Před 12 dny

    I'm a bit surprised that some say that BattleBit isn't immersive, they probably haven't actually played the game, just watched some one else play it. When you are playing on a server with 254 other players, hearing local voice comms from both friendlies and enemies, buildings getting leveled from all the explosions and players putting up fortifications where ever they want.
    It's hard not to get immersed in it when playing. You'll have to tunnel vision hard on the graphics and ignore everything that's actually happening around you in the game.
    Part of the success is most likely the accessibility, I doubt that BattleBit wouldn't have made it if you would've needed a NASA supercomputer to play it.

  • @TheIlandarLegacy
    @TheIlandarLegacy Před 10 dny

    PlanetSide 2's gunplay and movement was straight up designed to feel like Battlefield's, to the extent that the infantry weapon values are directly copied over from Bad Company 2 (SOE just added extra zeros). To say that it didn't feel the same at launch is way off, because compared to the Battlefield games of the time it was quite similar. It's only the more recent Battlefield titles that have felt particularly different, since DICE has been adding extra movement and consistently fucking around with gunplay.
    PlanetSide 2's major problem as a competitor to Battlefield, though, is that from about 2015 onwards (or whenever Higby and Smedley left the company) it has suffered from an increasingly severe identity crisis that has prevented refinement of the FPS aspect of the game (the bit that competes directly with Battlefield). It had a rushed launch because the studio ran out of funding, so it needed a lot of work to finish off all the different systems that would allow a massive scale FPS game to feel balanced. They have never completed the core sections of the game that would allow for a more consistently enjoyable FPS experience, so Battlefield players coming to that game very quickly find themselves frustrated by the complete lack of balancing and lose interest. Battlefield as a series (particularly recently) isn't perfectly balanced either but at least there has always been a recognition from the developer that this is an important aspect of the genre and something that needs continuous attention.
    On many nights PlanetSide 2 will be the worst FPS game you have ever played because its players are given completely free reign to stack unlimited cards in their favour. In my 3000-4000 hours playing that game I have experienced many "fights" where there were over 100 enemy players vs just me, and literally 20 - 30 tanks + air support continuously shelling all exits to the spawn room. And the people who play like this will continue to play like this because the game rewards them for it.

  • @Krieg_45
    @Krieg_45 Před 12 dny

    Jack casually killing players while discussing alternate games to Battlefield.
    Also Jack: Destroys a statue minding its own business
    RIP to the statue.

  • @carrast
    @carrast Před 13 dny +1

    this game is still an excellent game, still playin since 2018..

  • @Keggler
    @Keggler Před 13 dny +1

    I'm surprised there hasn't been a GI Joe or Transformers game similar to battlefield. both feel like they'd be able to cover the variety and provide unique experiences

  • @onEmEmbErstudios
    @onEmEmbErstudios Před 4 dny

    Hello Jack, long fan, love your contents!
    How's the hacker problem in BFV and BF4? I want to jump back to BFV but I heard there're so many hackers

  • @lucasceccattolcc
    @lucasceccattolcc Před 13 dny +1

    red orchestra 2 heroes of stalingrad is a good game, one of my favorites, a shame it isnt as popular as these other games

  • @stevenzwiesler5104
    @stevenzwiesler5104 Před 13 dny +1

    I could be wrong here, but I think a lot of it could come down to the engine. I mean, Frostbite has done so much for battlefield as a series and I dont think other studios have the confidence to go against Frostbite and Battlefield as a whole in direct competition.

  • @WhatIsGoinOnPeople
    @WhatIsGoinOnPeople Před 12 dny +1

    Hawk Ops confirmed will have an MP mode with no heroes, hopefully it will have dedicated servers where hosts have some control as well. Cautiously optimistic about it.

  • @Cm38271
    @Cm38271 Před 11 dny

    Battlefront (2015 and 2017) and Battlefield are made by the same devs using the same engine. They aren't that dissimilar but they aren't the exact same. I really would like to see a Battlefield like Star wars game as I think it could work amazingly.

  • @Yee20234
    @Yee20234 Před 8 dny

    Its sad that no one mentions Isonzo. I had so many experiences there that i think many people would describe as "battlefield-moments" and i still play it regularly.

  • @Sinsanatis
    @Sinsanatis Před 13 dny +1

    i think its just that bf has the name, the experience making it, and the funds too when talking about indie devs. if anyone else tries to do so, ppl will just see it as a copy even if its just as good or better. many know bf will usually yield a decent experience and only look their way. like how the iphone, theres probably better phones out there, but apple usually ships a good high quality product whether its innovative or not. the ip also has too high of a standing in the industry. its like how cod triumphs the arcadey military shooter. i think the industry just knows that going exactly toe to toe with the big 2 usually wont end well for them

  • @jacobconnell7191
    @jacobconnell7191 Před 11 dny

    5:38 this is exactly why I love the fortification system in this game. Jack wants to quickly cross the street and get to safety, but the barbed wire is up which gives a sniper time to shoot at him. Now there’s a new problem to solve

  • @garywright4510
    @garywright4510 Před 13 dny

    I don't think the finals gets enough love for exactly what it is. However I take your point that a domination style game mode would be sick though, just tricky imagining how weapons and classes can be balanced within the main game modes. Maybe 4 teams of 5 fighting over 3 objectives would work

  • @charlienewman____
    @charlienewman____ Před 9 dny

    I’m nearing 900h of BFV on my elderly ps4 and each time I see a streamer play it or I’m sitting down myself for a few rounds, I have a grim on my face. Bad Company 2, BF3 & 4, BFV and then BF1. It’s crazy to say that Battlefield has been with me through most of my living life. Can they make it happen again? Let’s see

  • @Malabaz001
    @Malabaz001 Před 13 dny

    Hey Jack gerat vid mate keep it up!

  • @sanderdegroot6227
    @sanderdegroot6227 Před 13 dny

    This game was awesome, still sort of is - want to go back to it. This map in particular (coming from Rotterdam) was such a treasure

  • @lexerquine3008
    @lexerquine3008 Před 13 dny

    Frontlines: Fuel of War and Terminator 3: War of the Machines were my battlefields back in the day.

  • @NisseROCKZ
    @NisseROCKZ Před 13 dny +1

    I stopped playing BF and switched to World War 3 on Steam. Nice balance between arcade and hardcore. It got real weapons and gear, that is 1:1 to the real world, like magpull grips, ELCAN sights and Aimpoint and so on. Great game, and life like maps in Japan, Germany (Berlin) and Ruzzia. Give it a go!

  • @haynes966
    @haynes966 Před 12 dny

    the Vietnam dlc for BFBC2 was so good I feel like no one mentions it anymore lol

  • @BleedingUranium
    @BleedingUranium Před 12 dny

    In addition to being an excellent commentary, the gameplay itself here is such a perfect showcase of Battlefield being Battlefield. :)

  • @ninety851
    @ninety851 Před 13 dny +1

    One game that is slept on is Polygon its free and its Battlefield/Call of duty mix and you can customize weapons and such. And there is maps from BF and other games. give it a try its fun