Dillon XL750 is it an upgrade over the XL650? First 1000 Squatch Reloading

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  • čas přidán 28. 08. 2024
  • Is the new offering from Dillon Precision an upgrade over the XL650? I am going to discus my first 1000 rounds and the hiccups along the way.

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  • @tonyvanderboon2564
    @tonyvanderboon2564 Před 2 lety

    Perfect video. Hit all the main points and questions I had in mind. Thanks

  • @calgarysparky
    @calgarysparky Před rokem

    Case feeder on my 550B changed everything. I roll a 100 rounds in about 8 mins on a normal flow. Just haven't seen any reason to drop 2k on a 750.
    Excellent video and liking your content though, subbed up!

  • @AlmiraAbsin
    @AlmiraAbsin Před 2 lety

    Good info.

  • @jeremybrown3239
    @jeremybrown3239 Před 4 lety +7

    There is an aftermarket roller bearing that sits on top of the shell plate. It allows you to really crank the tension down on the indexer and it runs smooth.

  • @andrewsteele7663
    @andrewsteele7663 Před 4 lety +4

    Thanks so much, I have put off buying a 650 for years because of the priming system. I have wanted a 750 and you have convinced to buy one, cheer's

  • @turtlecolson
    @turtlecolson Před 4 lety +4

    To keep the powder blown off my Dillon is a air pump that blows up air mattress and a piece of vacuum line. Works great and I think it was about $20 for everything.

    • @dagamore
      @dagamore Před 3 lety

      I use my small air brush for painting mini figs for the same thing, it just works.

  • @Bobshell-tw8xy
    @Bobshell-tw8xy Před 4 lety +6

    I’ve got a 550 & 650. Been loading for 25/yrs on 550. Now I just do only rifle on it. It took me a while to get used to 650 and the primer delivery. I didn’t like the wheel and having to change it all out between small & large primers. So I bought another primer system for it and switch out instead of take it apart. As far as the primer dropping down ski slope, I bought a primer stop switch off a fellow Reloader parts maker that goes by the name #snowshooz on eBay. ( don’t hold me to the spelling of his eBay name) but also bought the roller bearing / detent ball and spring as well as roller bearing stick for case feeder. All works great. I will say that the stop switch is my fav. Cause if u have to remove a case and have that empty position on shell plate, just hit stop switch and it won’t cycle primer wheel. When Dillon brought out the 750 and it has the 550 primer system, it really pissed me off. Cause at first I didn’t like the 650 primer system. But now that I load with it all the time. It’s good as 550. As far as an upgrade from 650 to 750, your correct. It’s not, it’s just same machine with all the quality as the other. That’s why Dillon is best in the business.

  • @edwardpetty5401
    @edwardpetty5401 Před 4 lety +3

    Glad to hear your take on the 650 because I just bought one. My friend upgraded to a 750, and I bought his 650.

    • @illfaptothis333
      @illfaptothis333 Před 4 lety

      good deal its nice to have friends with the same hobby

  • @glennearl5621
    @glennearl5621 Před 4 lety +3

    I've found the biggest, by far, improvement to smooth operation is to lube your brass.
    Yes, if you're running carbide dies and straight-wall cases lube is not required, but this an example of "just because you can doesn't mean you should".
    The carbide dies means you (theoretically) won't get a case stuck but it doesn't mean it's going to come out of the die smoothly. Obviously, a jerky operation at that station is going to bounce powder out of the rest of your fairly full cases.
    I do not claim this will solve all ills but it does make the most dramatic improvement.

    • @SquatchReloaded
      @SquatchReloaded  Před 4 lety +1

      I am a fan of case lube on all cartridges. I see countless stuck in die post every week on Facebook.

  • @jonclary78
    @jonclary78 Před 3 lety

    Thanks for posting the vid. I’ve had a 650 for years but really just got into using it more.

  • @georgeharvey3062
    @georgeharvey3062 Před 4 lety +2

    A guy on eBay sells a kit to help your xl 750 and xl 650. The kit includes a special plastic ball bearing and a special new spring to help prevent the snap in the rotation of the shell plate. This greatly reduces the powder spillage. It’s about $11.99 and he’s from anchorage AK. If you search Dillon reloading on eBay you’ll find it.

    • @SquatchReloaded
      @SquatchReloaded  Před 4 lety +3

      Thanks for your suggestion. Perhaps I will look into it and do a before and after video.

    • @georgeharvey3062
      @georgeharvey3062 Před 4 lety +2

      Squatch Reloading I’ve got a couple questions if you don’t mind helping another reloaded. I seriously considering upgrading my 1989 Lee Classic Turret press (never really liked it much but I was 27 and that’s all I could afford) to the XL 750 or the Hornady LnL. I’m sort of sold on the Dillon based on forums and all. It’s twice as expensive but as they say buy once cry once, right? Anyway, do you have any experience on other reloading machines? Since you have had at least 2 Dillons is that the right move for me. Also, I’m confused about the fact that depriming and repriming does not allow you to clean the pockets. Usually during my case prep I resize and deprime and then clean the primer pocket or put the cases in an ultrasonic cleaner (highly recommend one if you don’t have one). Is there a problem with primer pocket residue in the machine and will the cases be gunked up with residue when you immediately reprise them? Any advice is greatly appreciated.
      George

    • @SquatchReloaded
      @SquatchReloaded  Před 4 lety +2

      George Harvey Good question. In regards to running any progressive most size and deprime on the first station. I usually always though not necessary debprime prior to my tumbling process. I am just OCD about primer pockets getting clean. With that being said I haven’t always done this and ran thousands of rounds sizing and de priming in the same step. When doing this you will get some of the primer residue on the press but with the Dillon machines it doesn’t alter the function at all. The XL650 actually does the best with this as it self cleans by dropping out a primer even if one was not installed. The liner slide bar priming on the 550 and now the 750 doesn’t mind the left over residue but I would suggest keeping it cleaned up as you run just to prevent any issue. In regards to other progressive presses they all get the job done and have good warranty’s. They all have quirks and a learning curve. While Dillons are more expensive they just work. In my opinion they are easiest to use and require less tinkering. They are by far may favorite progressive but you can certainly have a good experience with other brand. I do believe the cost is worth it for what you are getting but to say are they better based off cost is a little subjective. If a XL750 is in your budget you can not go wrong with it. The Hornady LNL AP is a very good progressive as well for the money. I have used one before and once it’s dialed in it runs good. My favorite presses would be from a progressive standpoint I like the ease and simplicity of the Dillon 550C, turrets would be the Redding T7 or the Lyman All America 8, and finally for a single stage press the RCBS Rockchucker Supreme.

    • @georgeharvey3062
      @georgeharvey3062 Před 4 lety +2

      Squatch Reloading thanks for your advice. I’m anal about my primer pockets as well and usually resize and deprime on my single stage press. The the ultrasonic cleaner usually cleans the pockets and inside the cases very well.
      One other suggestion you may want to consider. Have you heard of a product called “White Lightning Clean Ride”? It is a wax based lube that cyclist use on there bike chains. It was recommended to me to use on my press because it is basically a powdery film when it dries and does not absorb powder residue as does oil and grease. You put it on with your finger and wipe when it dries in a few seconds. The stuff is slippery and makes my press run much better. In fact I was having an over rotation problem so I had to lighten up on my upswing on the arm when reloading. It was a little learning curve but really saves my elbow. Just a suggestion.

    • @Bobshell-tw8xy
      @Bobshell-tw8xy Před 4 lety

      That’s the guy I mentioned in my posting to vid. #snowshooz. Great parts maker 👍👍

  • @hleigh842
    @hleigh842 Před 4 lety +6

    Excellent commentary and virtually identical to my experiences. I also had a 550 and a 650 and much preferred the 550 primer system. In my opinion the 750 "on demand" primer system is a major improvement to the 650. Thank you.

  • @gatesjuniorreloading3470
    @gatesjuniorreloading3470 Před 4 lety +2

    The only thing that you can do is move away from max if possible. Meaning, look into different powders and weights of bullet to get the 9mm level down and still get the performance you are looking for or at least acceptable to you. That's the best way I have found to avoid max load. Otherwise, if you run max load then you will have powder spill.

    • @SquatchReloaded
      @SquatchReloaded  Před 4 lety +1

      Very True but running the hot rounds is so much fun.

  • @TheReloaderDude
    @TheReloaderDude Před 4 lety +1

    Awesome video. Very nice reloading set up. TRD

    • @SquatchReloaded
      @SquatchReloaded  Před 4 lety +1

      Thanks Reloader Dude. Means a lot coming from one of the best in the reloading community.

  • @CWfist
    @CWfist Před 4 lety +1

    Great honest review, I am in the market for a new Dillon press as I want to reload for my 5.56 and 7.62, all am running so far is the 450 Jr from 30 years ago. So to me the 750 will be an upgrade. Thanks for posting

    • @wayneparris3439
      @wayneparris3439 Před 4 lety +1

      With you here. I have been running my 450 for 25 to 30 years, I honestly can't remember. I picked up a 650 on closeout for $100 off the shelf price or about $40 more than a 550 shelf price. I actually do not like the 450 primer system that much and am looking forward to the 650 system. The down side of the new press is the $$$ needed to kit it out with case feeder, different feeder plates for the brass and 2 additional conversion kits for other calibers. Still a good deal but honestly, I did not NEED to upgrade :P

    • @CWfist
      @CWfist Před 4 lety +1

      @@wayneparris3439 I hope I can run the 750 without the case feeder,,, I am on a budget and do not have the space... maybe I should consider a 550 ?. My 450 Junior has a manual primer feed,,, I need to feed one primer at a time ,,, all in that press is manual,,,

    • @wayneparris3439
      @wayneparris3439 Před 4 lety +1

      @@CWfist Yes, they all can be run without a case feeder, no worries. There is still the shell feed tube and you simply manually drop the cases in the tube. You are investing in a life time tool, one that can be added to when you can afford to do so. I am not sure if the cases can be added like on the 450/550 , that is directly onto the shell plate or if the feed mech needs to be used with the tube. All in, I am at roughly $1450 U.S. That is the 650 press, case feeder, 3 case conversion kits (total) with the case feeder conversion plates, large and small pistol and large rifle. 4 powder drop dies (2 for powder and 2 for the powder level check (which I am using on my 450). I did have a double charge ... mishap roughly 25 years ago, blew the back strap and top 3 chambers off of a SSA revolver in .45 long colt. Thus the addition of the level checker. All has been well since then. That was the first and only double charge for me since 1976.) I also included 2 change kits for my 450 and another whole primer assy for the 650 to make switching between large and small primers much faster and easier.

    • @netpackrat
      @netpackrat Před 4 lety

      @@CWfist I ran my first rounds on my new 750 last night without the case feeder, which probably won't get here for another couple of weeks. It worked OK but I think for the longer term you'll definitely want the case feeder to get the most out of it. Even without the feeder it was still an improvement to be able to fill the tube up and not take my hand off the handle for a while. Double Alpha makes a substitute manual case feeder that has multiple tubes on a turret, you fill the tubes up and when one empties as you are running the press, you index it to the next tube.
      I had to futz with the primer feed for a while to get it working right; it wanted to feed two at a time and would spill them. It was a minor adjustment but they obviously didn't do any testing at the factory. It wasn't a huge deal since I have an SDB and am familiar with the basic system, but it was frustrating for a while.

  • @d-a-s-h3113
    @d-a-s-h3113 Před 4 lety +3

    The major difference is the chain reactions when you have a primer dentation. On a 650 when you have a primer go bang, it basically starts a chain, while the 750 does it one at time. Personally I am bigger fan of the 650 because I have a mr bullet feeder the mr bullet feeder works a million time better on the 650 because of how the powder bar is angled on the 750.

  • @echosreloadingchamber7306

    Squatch, the 9 mm case as you know has a taper and it that may be causing the occasional cartridge case just flip around backwards in your case feeder. Just a hypothesis, great video, and great new press. Echo

  • @rickdavid1795
    @rickdavid1795 Před 4 lety

    Thanks for the video

  • @dagamore
    @dagamore Před 3 lety +1

    If one already owns a 650 i dont see it as an full on upgrade, but if one is moving from a SQD to a rifle progressive, the 750 is hands down a better press than the 650, the primer system alone is worth it, and that Dillon included all of the most common fixes/upgrades from the after market shows that they are listening, now if only it came with a roller handle it would be the bees knees.

  • @tonygslc801
    @tonygslc801 Před 4 lety +1

    Great info on the XL 750 even if I'll never be able to afford drinking blue Kool-Aid.💰 Heck I'm still trying to acquire a t7 turret press! 😩 Good stuff Squatch keep on keepin On 👊😎🇺🇸

    • @SquatchReloaded
      @SquatchReloaded  Před 4 lety +1

      Go for the T7 if my wife only let me have one it would be the T7.

    • @tonygslc801
      @tonygslc801 Před 4 lety

      @@SquatchReloaded That's what I'm saving for. Thanks Squatch 👍

    • @georgeharvey3062
      @georgeharvey3062 Před 4 lety +3

      LakeViewOutdoors there is a sporting goods company called Scheels. I’m ordering an XL 750 from them $649.99 and a case feeder $259.99. No tax or shipping for me. Plus if you get one of their CC they give you $50 to spend for online shopping. There is also a rewards program that gives $25 gift card for every $833 you spend. That helps a little with accessories. I know it’s still a big nut to swallow but what they say is right “buy once cry once”. Good luck to you.

    • @tonygslc801
      @tonygslc801 Před 4 lety +1

      @@georgeharvey3062 Thank you for the Info! I have a Scheels near me. I will be going there this weekend to check out the deals. I really appreciate the heads up George! 👊😎🇺🇸

  • @timshannon718
    @timshannon718 Před rokem

    Does anyone have a fix for the primer cup not picking up a primer and carrying it over? Can't seem to get it to work!

    • @SquatchReloaded
      @SquatchReloaded  Před rokem

      Are you sure you didn’t over tighten your magazine rod? Damaged tip is usually the culprit. Also can have a primer laying behind the cup now allowing a full retract

    • @timshannon718
      @timshannon718 Před rokem

      @@SquatchReloaded I've had this thing apart about 12+ times, The rod seems to be ok, no binding or issues. The tips appears to be fine now, Dillion tech support had me open it up. I don't see any thing behind or blocking the travel.

    • @SquatchReloaded
      @SquatchReloaded  Před rokem

      Hmmm where you located? Wish I could put my eyes on it

  • @Yerevan1964
    @Yerevan1964 Před 3 lety

    Thanks for the post. I have an XL750 that I have yet to set it up - still waiting on few backorders. Can you please let me know what the measurement is from your bench surface to the top of the case feeder? Also, is that the largest model of the Inline Fabrications Ultramount? How high does it seat from the top of your bench. I have a 7' ceiling height limitation that leaves very little to play with on top of my 37" high bench. Just ordered the 4" high Micro Ultramount. Hopefully, it will be just enough drop, along, maybe, a couple of inches of height trimming.

  • @GunsNReloads
    @GunsNReloads Před 4 lety +1

    Great video! I've been eyeballing a 750 but I am so invested in tool heads on my 550B that I'm having a hard time making the buy. Do you still use your 550 for anything?

    • @SquatchReloaded
      @SquatchReloaded  Před 4 lety +1

      The 750 priming system was a sell for me. I load all my high volume on the 750 now and most precision stuff on my Turrets

  • @ratfortman
    @ratfortman Před 4 lety +1

    Great video! Do you know if the 650 rotary primer system can be replaced with a linear system like what comes with the 750? Is there a compatible after market solution? Thank you!

    • @SquatchReloaded
      @SquatchReloaded  Před 4 lety +1

      I can’t see where it would be possible based off the layout but I am sure Dillon would consider a conversion if demand was there.

  • @PracticallySquared1
    @PracticallySquared1 Před 4 lety

    I would actually disagree and say the 750 is an upgrade over the 650. I had a 650 years ago and got rid of it because of the priming system. I recently bought a new 750 and really like it. The priming system is a huge upgrade. If I still had my 650 and was happy with it I probably wouldn’t have bought the 750 but to someone that’s looking at both the 750 is the better machine (thus an upgrade in my book)

    • @SquatchReloaded
      @SquatchReloaded  Před 4 lety

      I hear ya. The primer system was a selling point from me. Aside from that if you own a 650 and have already done the normal upgrades is pretty much a non issue unless you don’t like the continuous priming like I did.

    • @superkillr
      @superkillr Před 4 lety +1

      @@SquatchReloaded --- You had to know they sell deactivator for the priming system all over Ebay, Amazon, and you can 3d print them.

    • @SquatchReloaded
      @SquatchReloaded  Před 4 lety

      superkillr true but how many widgets do you need to buy for high dollar press.

    • @superkillr
      @superkillr Před 4 lety

      @@SquatchReloaded -- all of them...that's how Dillon probably stays in business. Nickels and dimes.

  • @rudyruiz9615
    @rudyruiz9615 Před 3 lety

    I have heard so many bad stories of the "rotary dial" primer, the KISS method always works best.

  • @stevencoyote746
    @stevencoyote746 Před 4 lety +1

    I'm in the market right now for my 1st press ...and I'm not sure what press in want to go with ..550. 650 750 or hornady lock-n-load..I just dont know ...I'll just be a weekend loader ..just want to up my range 224 bullets..what would you recommend..I do want a bullet feeder and case feeder

    • @SquatchReloaded
      @SquatchReloaded  Před 4 lety +1

      The Hornady LNL is priced a bit better than the XL750. In my experience the Dillons just work and have less small parts. The Hornady will meet all of the requirements you are looking for in regards to a casefeeder and bullet feeder options. The Dillon 550 isn’t the best to auto feed atleast in my experience. If your on a budget you can go wrong with LNL if you are willing to spend a little more the XL750 is defiantly worth every penny.

    • @stevencoyote746
      @stevencoyote746 Před 4 lety +1

      @@SquatchReloaded yes I dont mind spending money on a press that will work ..I saw where people was having problems with the case feeder with the LnL so ..I kinda want to buy and go with minor tinkering ...so yea I'll definitely check out the Dillon 750 ..

    • @stevencoyote746
      @stevencoyote746 Před 4 lety

      Around $1800 for the whole kit on Dillons site ..unless you know a better way .

    • @SquatchReloaded
      @SquatchReloaded  Před 4 lety +1

      Give Bobcat Armament a try. I don’t know if any sales at the moment

    • @stevencoyote746
      @stevencoyote746 Před 4 lety

      @@SquatchReloaded 10-4 ty

  • @musashiblade8665
    @musashiblade8665 Před 4 lety +1

    Subscribed

  • @tomd8313
    @tomd8313 Před 4 lety +2

    Looks good!
    Best way to eliminate powder spilling on indexing, and from the powder bar, is to get a lnl, for half the price.

    • @SquatchReloaded
      @SquatchReloaded  Před 4 lety +2

      Well maybe but I am sure there is a trade off. Each press has its own quirks. I am just thankful there are so many options for us reloaders.

    • @tomd8313
      @tomd8313 Před 4 lety +1

      @@SquatchReloaded Yeah, you got a good one there for sure! Was just sayin for 9mm or full cases, the lnl indexes half on upstroke, and half on down, thats all. Less spillage.
      Youll love your 750, great press. Good Luck!

    • @KRN762
      @KRN762 Před 4 lety +1

      Just train around it. On my 650 (ordered a 750 today) I use my left index finger to take out the snap of the shell when it goes into bullet seating station.

    • @SquatchReloaded
      @SquatchReloaded  Před 4 lety

      That is a good method as well.

    • @tomd8313
      @tomd8313 Před 4 lety

      @@SquatchReloaded
      Are you able to use a Dremel tool, and slightly ramp into the holes under the shell plate, that the detent ball rides in, so it doesn't Snap into place, but kinda slides in?

  • @joemccallum710
    @joemccallum710 Před 4 lety +1

    The 750 is an upgrade simply because you can purchase a bullet feeder and an auto drive system... granted u can put a bullet feeder on a 650, but I don't think u could set up an auto drive on it...

    • @SquatchReloaded
      @SquatchReloaded  Před 4 lety +1

      You can add both on the 650 as well.

    • @joemccallum710
      @joemccallum710 Před 4 lety +1

      @@SquatchReloaded ah...cool cool... I got a 750 waiting on me at home... probably over paid BUT i did their finance option and they do credit reporting so for me, win win.. I'll over pay for the report on my credit :)

    • @joemccallum710
      @joemccallum710 Před 4 lety

      @@SquatchReloaded actually was able to find 1000, of all 9mm supplies in the midst of all this virus bs too... Got lucky... finding 45acp, thats a different story...lol

    • @SquatchReloaded
      @SquatchReloaded  Před 4 lety +1

      Joe Mccallum you will like the XL 750 If you hit any snags feel free to message me on Facebook or email at squatchreloading@gmail.com

    • @joemccallum710
      @joemccallum710 Před 4 lety +1

      @@SquatchReloaded Will do brother man, you and someone others already helped me by posting videos about issues u guys have had, all in all i think Dillon has a great machine,....i think most reloaders understand that its next to impossible to have a perfect machine....

  • @Jeff7577
    @Jeff7577 Před 4 lety +1

    I have a XL650 and the auto indexing primer system SUCKS,SUCKS, SUCKS.....

    • @superkillr
      @superkillr Před 4 lety

      I think it's awesome.. just get a deactivator of your choice.

  • @chronicpain2270
    @chronicpain2270 Před 4 lety

    i am disappointed with dillon after seeing that they still haven't upgraded the simplest of things on there presses. most of the upgrades should have been performed by dillon why would i buy a press that needs upgrades that are 5 years old already . dillon needs to get it together frigging greedy company

  • @JamesPruitt-mx2nr
    @JamesPruitt-mx2nr Před rokem

    Keep your 650. It's a better machine with less weak points.