I've got 3 wings in the garage. I had one of them running good when I was diagnosed with cancer. I'm 71 and in better health now but it took several years so I hope I can get the old bike cranked up.
If the stator is still good you should go buy a lottery ticket. If it's working pull the left side cover and look for a plastic plug with 3 yellow wires. You must cut out that plug and solder the wires together. The plug melts and shorts out the wires, which burns up the stator. As for the carburetor's, you can make an intake from 1 inch PVC pipe and use a single air cooled VW carburetor. The engine will run better and get increased fuel mileage. There are lots of videos here on CZcams showing how to do it. You MUST replace the timing belts. They age out and if one breaks while the engine is running the engine will be destroyed.
@@jpmcmotor6890 Yes, if you can't change the stator yourself the cost of paying a shop do it exceed the value of the motorcycle. The GL1000, GL1100, and GL1200 Goldwings had to be completely stripped and the engine removed from the frame to change out the Stator. Very time consuming and very expensive if you pay a shop to do that for you.
@@jpmcmotor6890 I used to flip GL1200's, too. I still have two '84 Standards. I'm familiar with the 1200's and for me, it's perfect. Especially after removing the SAS. So far never had to, but to me, would be well worth swapping out, or repairing a stator. I love the GL1200!
First thing I am doing is buying a complete carb rebuild kit, buying new intake boots, all new seals, clean that tank completely out,buy a new fuel pump, replace the timing belts, because you know those are dry as hell, new tires. Flush the radiator, replace all the hoses. And it should be good.
I don't know anything about how to work on motorcycles but I am always impressed and grateful to watch people that can take something that is not running and bring it back to life. Good job sir!!
Love the bike! Goldwings have a place in my heart right next to old Mustangs! I would love to have a 1200 but my legs won't allow me to ride one. I own a 93 Goldwing trike and I love it! Ride safe!
As owner of 85 limited its a love /hate relationship. Love to ride it but hate to work on it.most oem parts discontinued and Chinese aftermarket don't last a year.but it's still a goldwing. 100-200 miles in day is what these bikes were made for.
The 1200 line of goldwings were an improvement over the 1000 and 1100 models except when they got around 50K mile mark. Then the stator burns up and you have to pull the motor, remove the rear housing, install a new stator then hard solder it to the chassis “INFAMOUS” 3 yellow wires behind the left side cover. It is actually easier and a better fix to install an external alternator and do away with the stator altogether. Cam belts on this old girl were also a maintenance item they were generally replaced due to age of the belt and not by mileage. This is true of all of Hondas GL models. What amazes me with this video is the carbs didn’t need to be cleaned…..(a mutha to do). The full dress GL1200 were made to look pretty but when problems come up (and they did) it was a nightmare to fix. All of that plastic had to come off. Maintenance was not for the faint of heart. This guy got lucky just to get it to run. When the GL1200 ran, it was a wonderful tour bike, comfortable, predictable, and beautiful. It was capable of carrying a couple of heavy-weight people, loaded saddlebags and tow a trailer from Boston to Los Angeles and back without breaking a sweat.
I must say that you have given me hope I just got a 86 and it sat in front of this house chained up for 12 years! Front breaks locked up but got them loosened with a tap of the cylinder with a rubber mallet tank was empty the last time it rode was 2010 but I’m going to do the same thing as far as cleaning the tank with that mix might be a little different because it was outside but hopefully will get her back up and running I do have a carb Rebuild kit so I will be able to rebuild them again I’m watching your video long and hard to see what I can do as well I guess thanks man
Hey Glenn, my bet is every rubber hose needs newerized. What it sounds and looks like is all the main jets are mostly clear, but the smaller idle circuits are maybe plugged up on one or two carbs.
I actually just brought back a 1985 gl1200 limited edition with the fuel injection! Love these bikes. Mine needed a starter, rear brake rebuild, and clutch rebuild. Old wings I look at as almost having a soul that wants to be brought back
I agree.. My wife had an 86 SEI back in the day. It belonged to a freind, he wrecked it, we went to the salvage auction and bought it, was to nice to part out so we fixed it . After we sorted it out, it was a great bike. GWRRA 58002
I’ve got a 1984 that I’m getting close to trying to start after 12 years of sitting. Hopefully I have the same luck you have. I’ve put new timing belts on, and rebuilt the carbs.I also put a new stator in it. Which means I had to pull the motor out. 2-3 hours, I’m hoping to turn the engine over . Wish me luck
Love that you got her back to running sir but you sure rough on a old engine. Revering that engine so high I though you was gonna blow her up. I would never do that on any engine new or old. But great job on saving her.
@@GlennsSpeedShop yes, I had the original GL1000, before that, bought that 2nd hand I think in 79, then 2 of the GL1100, mk1 and mk2, Then the aspencade in summer 84. A few years ago I got a 1500 which I kept for a few years, nice bike but needed a lot of tinkering to keep it 100%. I was king of the road :-)
Good for you Glen. Nice old bike. Honda’s want to run. Big congrats on your retirement. Start counting down the months. Soon you will be counting down the last days. Have a long retirement.
Love seeing these older Honda Goldwing's brought back to life. Would love to get my hands on another 1985 GL1200LTD. Never should have sold her, but I needed the cash. If you find, or hear of, one, please let me know. I am in Nampa, ID. Going to look through your other videos for more on this one.
Used to work in Honda shop in those days and spent hours adding accessories to gold wings. The early 80s models didn't come stock with radios and those were the worst to install. Honda line equipment was good though. It's funny, I did all the gold wings and motocross bikes.
Commence starter abuse @ 18:12. I kid a little. I picked up a running '84 1200 about 16 months ago and have been struggling with a charging issue since. I had the engine out to replace the stator and I believe you're right about removing the engine to remove the fuel tank.
Sir - It's not running right nor will it. If sitting that long stop running it this way you're abusing the engine. I all but guarantee the carbs will need to be cleaned or rebuilt, pilot jets are going to be blocked. Revving the crap out it and seafoam won't fix anything. I agree timing belts should be replaced. Check for proper charging voltage at the battery. Low charging rate can indicate a wiring fault, inoperative regulator/rectifier, fried stator or combination thereof. Check the stator connector at the main harness they typically overheat/melt from corrosion & high resistance. Same issue can occur at the regulator/rectifier connector. If not already needed, you may have already killed the solid state regulator/rectifier cranking it on a battery charger. Check that the stator windings aren't shorted and test for proper stator AC voltage output on the 3 yellow wires. Ultimately change all fluids including rear diff, brakes, clutch & bleed. Highly likely the bike will need all brake masters & clutch master & slave rebuilt, same for brake calipers, due to brake fluid gone bad in these systems from years of being parked. Cooling system should be drained & flushed. New thermostat will likely be needed. These bikes are very robust & reliable but pardon me for saying you're going about it the wrong way.... I'm not a hater on your video, just an experienced tech rendering opinion and advice. Good luck & Take care.
This is one of the most polite and helpful "you're wrong" comments I've ever seen! I plan on getting an oldwing once I have some more riding experience and this let me know some of the tings I'm in for, thank you!
I totally agree! I'm amazed it started ... but it did ... maybe sweet talking to them does work. But, in my experience, what you are saying is the correct application of love. Also, those brake and clutch lines all need to be taken apart, and all the cylinders - I guarentee there is a bunch of goo everywhere. Just go through the whole bike. Or, put seafoam and ether to start, and ride it like you stole it. Its an old honda - might not run perfect, but will limp along just fine for many miles.
I don't care how old or what shape it's in, a gold wing is a gorgeous bike. I had a 1975 gl1000 that was full dress, was a great riding bike. BUT, this was always the one I wanted, a 1985-1988 gl1200
i had a 85 Interstate miss it I dont really like the Shadow ace that much but i got me a 79 Wing im getting restore but not rebuilt just bringing it back to life no paint no rebuilt none of that just a new seat took the Vetter tour pack off tho.
I bought a Honda Goldwing last year and it sat for 15 years I had to rebuild the carburetors rebuild the back brake system put new gas tank new fuel pump new master cylinder for the clutch and new front brake cylinders and now I got to replace my fork seals 28 years if it gets running it's most not likely because of the ethanol in the gas kills carburetor
They're awesome bikes to this day and were built really well.This is a really nice example(don't like the decals),that deserves a complete restoration.Good job!
cleaning the carbs after so many years standing is probably compulsory, it would have been a lot easier on that starter motor. A lot of comments about timing belts (horrible car things), running the engine without replacing those would have scared the heck out of me.
Congrats! The Wing runs! A lot of the suggestion in the comment section makes your Honda Aspencade runs like real Honda again. The one that I disagree upon, is the soldering of the 3 yellow wires from the stator. Actually the melting of the connectors or loose connector saved your stator from burning. I think its an Engineering fault. If you remember, back in those years the speed limit is 55 MPH. With that said, the Wing never see a continues high RPM (above 80 MPH) driving. Above that, if all the charging sys are good and tight, the stator will overheat and self destruct because the regulator CANNOT regulate the self charging permanent magnet alternator. I think, I know what I'm talking about. I'm a retired automotive technician and I bought ( third owner) of a 1987 Honda Goldwing Aspencade. I had a good purchase of a good running Wing knowing the stator is bad and I know I can fix it. At first, I rode it with fully charges batteries and had a limited range(150 miles) by installing a dual battery. I didn't have a chance to pull the engine out to replace the stator. I finally replaced the stator and made all the connections solid. The charging sys was doing real good for at least 5 years until I road with my group going above 80 MPH for a long time. I found out the next day that it cranked slow. New battery and regulator was installed but found out the stator is not charging again. If your charging sys is still OK go ahead and fixed any loose charging sys wire connections. Just don't drive it over 80 MPH (cruise control regulated) for a long period otherwise you will be pulling the engine also. This happened to one of our group rider 86 Wing also. He adapted Geo Metro external alternator to fix it cause didn't want to pull the engine out. My carbureted '87 Wing is FOR SALE right now due to health problem and age (70). Its not in the Clist yet. Still have have the stator problem though but it runs good 6 months ago.
Thanks for the details... I am sure other owners will find value in them! My 1st new motorcycle was an 86 1200, have owned more than 15 wings over the years, I have put staters in 1200s and alternators in 1500s. An officer in GWRRA for 22 years, I have seen it all. I have never seen a stater fail if the three yellow wires were properly spliced early in life. The 1500s alternator however is a different story, even mine failed. I got good at replacing them. Did one for a guy in a campground in 30 min with only the bikes factory tool kit... Come to think of it, the guy never even offered me a dollar for it.... lol
The root cause is the basic design of EVERY motorcycle's charging system. Without exception, they consist of a permanent magnet whirling around inside a coil assembly. The coil feeds a regulator. The regulator grounds the coil when its output voltage exceeds the limit. The heat caused by the ground will destroy the stator and the regulator. Cars don't have this problem because the voltage regulator controls the alternator field voltage.
Thanks for the honest professional experience. As a retired DIESEL tech, (×3), I just acquired a low mileage 89 GL1500 -starting into the readability process on it.
@@deanbenson6879 The GW 1500 is a good bike. Honda finally got smarter and installed a removeable alternator without removing the engine. If its a fuel injected then you don't have driveability concern riding during very hot weather. All the best on your new ride.
Wow. That thing is loaded down with about 100 pounds of junk. The 1200 Goldwing only had a 400 pound load capacity, and all that crap took up about 100 pounds of it. I never understood why so many owners turned their Goldwings into rolling junkyards. I see it has a trailer hitch on it, so it has obviously been abused. I would never try to start a Goldwing that has been sitting for a while without first pulling the plugs and soaking the cylinders in oil, change the oil and filter, and replacing the cam belts. if one breaks, the engine is toast. Goldwing engines are also prone to stuck valves after sitting for a while, and if a valve sticks open a piston is going to hit it. Always turn the engine over by hand first. I'd start by removing ALL the non stock junk. The fuel tank can be removed by removing the rear wheel and swingarm. DOT 3 is just fine, and is completely compatible with DOT 4. But it needs to be from a new, unopened container. The floorboards and heal and toe shifter should be removed and trashed, and replaced with the pegs and normal shifter it came with. Open the bleeder screw on the clutch master cylinder and let fluid dribble through it for a while. It's easy to gravity bleed. The primary seal on the plunger is probably bad. The HORRIBLE combined brake system can be converted to a normal brake system using parts from a late '90s Kawasaki Vulcan 1500 Classic. DO NOT use starting fluid. It is ether, and burns hot enough to burn holes in pistons. Use gasoline in a spray bottle. You're burning up the starter. Don't forget to check the coolant. Water pump seals are prone to fail on 4 cylinder Goldwings. That is not the stock exhaust. Goldwings only have one pipe on each side.
I sold this recently and said in my ad that it needs restored, including brakes and timing belts. Some people think the belts are some fragile rubber piece that will fall apart after 15 years. That is not the case. Now it's true that they should be replaced, I have replaced many that were 20 plus years old and they were still fairly soft, not cracked, and in tact. I wouldn't roll down the highway at 75 mph all day with them but for storage and running the engine once in a while, they are fine. When your ready to start riding it again, new belts!
So many people are in panic mode about the timing belt, it's a valid concern but I bought a 1992 ST1100 with 65K miles from a guy who had no idea about what maintenance had been done. The belt might have 500 miles or 65K miles on it, I don't know but I rode it 2000 miles round trip shortly after I bought it. I figure that trip alone was worth what I paid for it but it is still running like a champ with 70k miles.
I agree with you. I have been around wings most of my adult life and have never seen a belt break yet. It doesn't mean it shouldn't be replaced but they are not "Fragile "
Sitting that amount of time it would be wise to re-run it in like a new engine. Keep under 60% power, that way you don’t snap a piston ring and destroy the bores, multiple heat cycles and slow power increase .
Good job on cleaning out the tank, oil in the fuel...not so much. A little Upper Cylinder lube (AKA Marvels) much better- changing old oil out first, even better. Pull plugs and get the oil pressure up prior to light off. Stay at it, it was born to run!
@@GlennsSpeedShop I have a 81 1100 interstate that's sat for 30 years...What do you think about spraying wd40 in cylinders through spark plug holes to sit for weeks, then remove plugs again and crank engine to blow excess oil out before running it....? I also want to pour wd40 in gas tank to sit during same time....TIA...
Anything is better than nothing, remember these engine are flat, so getting oil to all parts of the cylinder may be impossible but something is better than nothing and if moisture got into them, it's on the bottom too. I suggest 2 stroke oil in the fuel and if you really care about it use an oil fogger. These are designed to use prior to long term parking.
The sparks are rusted out exhaust pieces. If it doesn’t clear out you might have a bad head gasket or a cracked water jacket caused by corrosion from sitting.
Picking up an 83 aspencade in a few days. Have you ever installed a water pump in one of these? The one is out of the 83 with the engine still on the frame. everything up front is removed but included. Wish me luck. the bike has 68k miles.
I had an ‘85 GL1200i Interstate that I put over 120K on, and did all the work myself including changing the stator, which involved tearing the whole bike apart and dropping the engine out. I sold it with 160K on it and drove it 300 mile to the new owner in LA. There were SO MANY things you should have done to that bike before you even touched the starter button that you are super lucky it didn’t just grenade on you. Good luck buddy, you need that because you sure are no motorcycle mechanic!
Nice bike owned one very good running bike has belt timing belts just like a car engine if you don’t have to take engine out don’t it’s shaft drive but other then that it’s is very cool bike
As a former goldwing owner and soon to have a new one. This hurts. Sorry for saying, but you could have done so much things way better and bring this beauty back to life for another 100.000 miles. Things don't repair by themselves. 1 piston is dead and rings need to be replaced. It is not that much of money and will give you the joy of the Goldwing. Please measure the pressure on every cilinder to find the bad one. Still give you a thumbs up, because I love goldwings.
Thanks for the comment. If I was going to keep the bike, this would be a whole different video series. I was just doing a favor for a friend who was moving to get this out of his barn, get it cleaned up and running, and sell it to someone who would give it a second life. It made good video content and the guy that bought it was a happy camper. From my perspective, I am better off taking the couple thousand dollars this project bike made me and put it towards a better bike... But for now, I have no desire to ride again. Cheers! Glenn
It never fails to astonish me how these CZcams mechanics will just stand there and keep pressing the starter button until smoke starts to come out of the damn starter. If it doesn't start pressing the starter button until you fry the starter ain't going to work. There is obviously something else wrong from when I can hear it's only firing on two cylinders
I agree. Buddy's wife had a 1300vtx that sat in the garage for years. Same exact issue. Wouldn't run off choke. We cleaned the carbs with carb cleaner spray and ran in some seafoam and fresh gas, and she is now golden. But even then we didn't rev the heck out of it....
before i tell you how to choke it i have to say first, that is not a choke, it is an enricher, pus it till it stops and then push it a little bit more. o yea it only enriches one carb, i think number 3.
I've got 3 wings in the garage. I had one of them running good when I was diagnosed with cancer. I'm 71 and in better health now but it took several years so I hope I can get the old bike cranked up.
I am also a Cancer Survivor. I wish you continued good health and miles of smiles!
Glenn
@@GlennsSpeedShop thank you and continued health to you.
@@JamesCouch777 so how’s the health?
If the stator is still good you should go buy a lottery ticket. If it's working pull the left side cover and look for a plastic plug with 3 yellow wires. You must cut out that plug and solder the wires together. The plug melts and shorts out the wires, which burns up the stator. As for the carburetor's, you can make an intake from 1 inch PVC pipe and use a single air cooled VW carburetor. The engine will run better and get increased fuel mileage. There are lots of videos here on CZcams showing how to do it.
You MUST replace the timing belts. They age out and if one breaks while the engine is running the engine will be destroyed.
Yep, I,m a dealer in Ireland. Everytime I got offered one that was parked up was because the stator was kaput
@@jpmcmotor6890 Yes, if you can't change the stator yourself the cost of paying a shop do it exceed the value of the motorcycle. The GL1000, GL1100, and GL1200 Goldwings had to be completely stripped and the engine removed from the frame to change out the Stator. Very time consuming and very expensive if you pay a shop to do that for you.
@@n4zou Indeed, but I sold hundreds of them and only ever saw the problem with the 1200
@@jpmcmotor6890 I used to flip GL1200's, too. I still have two '84 Standards. I'm familiar with the 1200's and for me, it's perfect. Especially after removing the SAS. So far never had to, but to me, would be well worth swapping out, or repairing a stator. I love the GL1200!
Old tractor carbs work good too
First thing I am doing is buying a complete carb rebuild kit, buying new intake boots, all new seals, clean that tank completely out,buy a new fuel pump, replace the timing belts, because you know those are dry as hell, new tires. Flush the radiator, replace all the hoses. And it should be good.
Absolutely a piece of art. I remember these back in the day, always wanted one, couldn't afford it.
Great video. I don’t think I have ever seen that many sparks come out the exhaust. Great Honda.
Reminded me of my old 1200 , lovely bike . Ride a 1500 now but still like the sound and looks of the 12
You're doin a great service bringing that old hind back to life. Thanks for the video
I don't know anything about how to work on motorcycles but I am always impressed and grateful to watch people that can take something that is not running and bring it back to life. Good job sir!!
Thanks for the comment. Many of my videos are just that, fixing stuff that is broke and make it work good again ..
Love the bike! Goldwings have a place in my heart right next to old Mustangs! I would love to have a 1200 but my legs won't allow me to ride one. I own a 93 Goldwing trike and I love it! Ride safe!
Absolutely legendary, and GORGEOUS ! The 1980's MIJ bikes were the pinnacle.
I love watching people work on gl-1200 goldwings very few guys doing that these days.
I agree .. i own one .86 aspencade 1200..
1985 Honda Goldwing SE no start condition
@@ronaldwheeler1197 did you get it started yet .
As owner of 85 limited its a love /hate relationship. Love to ride it but hate to work on it.most oem parts discontinued and Chinese aftermarket don't last a year.but it's still a goldwing. 100-200 miles in day is what these bikes were made for.
The 1200 line of goldwings were an improvement over the 1000 and 1100 models except when they got around 50K mile mark. Then the stator burns up and you have to pull the motor, remove the rear housing, install a new stator then hard solder it to the chassis “INFAMOUS” 3 yellow wires behind the left side cover. It is actually easier and a better fix to install an external alternator and do away with the stator altogether. Cam belts on this old girl were also a maintenance item they were generally replaced due to age of the belt and not by mileage. This is true of all of Hondas GL models. What amazes me with this video is the carbs didn’t need to be cleaned…..(a mutha to do). The full dress GL1200 were made to look pretty but when problems come up (and they did) it was a nightmare to fix. All of that plastic had to come off. Maintenance was not for the faint of heart. This guy got lucky just to get it to run. When the GL1200 ran, it was a wonderful tour bike, comfortable, predictable, and beautiful. It was capable of carrying a couple of heavy-weight people, loaded saddlebags and tow a trailer from Boston to Los Angeles and back without breaking a sweat.
That's amazing! They just don't make things as dependable nowadays. Those things are like old tanks. Give it what it needs and you're good to go.
I must say that you have given me hope I just got a 86 and it sat in front of this house chained up for 12 years! Front breaks locked up but got them loosened with a tap of the cylinder with a rubber mallet tank was empty the last time it rode was 2010 but I’m going to do the same thing as far as cleaning the tank with that mix might be a little different because it was outside but hopefully will get her back up and running I do have a carb Rebuild kit so I will be able to rebuild them again I’m watching your video long and hard to see what I can do as well I guess thanks man
Do you pay extra for punctuation?
Awesome I just picked up one of these for free! thanks for the insight excited to try and get this one running
Before you run it any longer, change the timing belts! Nice to see another wing in your shop Glen but go easy on em!
Good job. I had my 84 Aspencade for 11 years.
Love the way you talk to the bike.
Awesome work, sir.
It’s a testament to how good Honda engines are, even back in 85
Hey Glenn, my bet is every rubber hose needs newerized. What it sounds and looks like is all the main jets are mostly clear, but the smaller idle circuits are maybe plugged up on one or two carbs.
Yep, do doubt. The idle jets are very small and plug easy. I have gone through dozens of GL1000 carbs in my day, same issue
Cheers from Oregon!
Glenn
I actually just brought back a 1985 gl1200 limited edition with the fuel injection!
Love these bikes. Mine needed a starter, rear brake rebuild, and clutch rebuild. Old wings I look at as almost having a soul that wants to be brought back
I agree.. My wife had an 86 SEI back in the day. It belonged to a freind, he wrecked it, we went to the salvage auction and bought it, was to nice to part out so we fixed it . After we sorted it out, it was a great bike. GWRRA 58002
Nice work. Patience was the key as you said.
I’ve got a 1984 that I’m getting close to trying to start after 12 years of sitting. Hopefully I have the same luck you have. I’ve put new timing belts on, and rebuilt the carbs.I also put a new stator in it. Which means I had to pull the motor out. 2-3 hours, I’m hoping to turn the engine over . Wish me luck
Did it run?
Did it run
Did it run?
best of luck .
@@blackblaze1996 yes it did
Great bike...great video...ride on!
I just got one today that I hope to get started. It will be nice if I can get it going in roughly 30 min as you have.
Love that you got her back to running sir but you sure rough on a old engine. Revering that engine so high I though you was gonna blow her up. I would never do that on any engine new or old. But great job on saving her.
Yes, that guy is a mad idiot
I just bought one and I will get it tomorrow. I'm going to watch a lot of videos to see what to do to it. It's been sitting for several years.
I subscribed, love the video. I own the 86 aspencade. Great wing
I had one of those back in 85, great bike. The LCD display :-)
We had an 86. SEI back in the day too, there was nothing like it when they were new!
Glenn
@@GlennsSpeedShop yes, I had the original GL1000, before that, bought that 2nd hand I think in 79, then 2 of the GL1100, mk1 and mk2, Then the aspencade in summer 84. A few years ago I got a 1500 which I kept for a few years, nice bike but needed a lot of tinkering to keep it 100%. I was king of the road :-)
awesome video I just got the same bike mine sat since 2014 I got to do the same thing
Even if it didn't start I would drain all the fluids and park it in my living room, i would give my TV away and just stare at it and admire its beauty
Good for you Glen. Nice old bike. Honda’s want to run. Big congrats on your retirement. Start counting down the months. Soon you will be counting down the last days. Have a long retirement.
Thanks John...
WHat a Masterpiece of Engineering ,awesome still!
Love seeing these older Honda Goldwing's brought back to life. Would love to get my hands on another 1985 GL1200LTD. Never should have sold her, but I needed the cash. If you find, or hear of, one, please let me know. I am in Nampa, ID. Going to look through your other videos for more on this one.
The guy I sold this bike to had an LTD. My wife used to have an SEI. All great machines...
I just bought a running gl 1100 off face book market for 300 bucks put battery and road it off.
I'm in Boise I have an good 85 LTD for sale. Fresh oil and filter today before a ride up to Idaho City.
@@ahbalone Would love to see it. I am in Nampa.
@@idmooseman Okay it's just been listed on Boise CL. 👍
Is that an RCA record player on the dash for music!😂😂😂😂
Wow great video.
Great video. That`s one great engine.
that poor starter! This was hard to watch, but I couldn't look away. What a mess.
Used to work in Honda shop in those days and spent hours adding accessories to gold wings. The early 80s models didn't come stock with radios and those were the worst to install. Honda line equipment was good though. It's funny, I did all the gold wings and motocross bikes.
Commence starter abuse @ 18:12. I kid a little. I picked up a running '84 1200 about 16 months ago and have been struggling with a charging issue since. I had the engine out to replace the stator and I believe you're right about removing the engine to remove the fuel tank.
Bulletproof Honda man. Cant beat em.
Sounds good, I've had mice put corn in exhaust and smelled burnt popcorn after a couplemiles, no shit honest ,keep her running very inspirational
Sir - It's not running right nor will it. If sitting that long stop running it this way you're abusing the engine. I all but guarantee the carbs will need to be cleaned or rebuilt, pilot jets are going to be blocked. Revving the crap out it and seafoam won't fix anything. I agree timing belts should be replaced. Check for proper charging voltage at the battery. Low charging rate can indicate a wiring fault, inoperative regulator/rectifier, fried stator or combination thereof. Check the stator connector at the main harness they typically overheat/melt from corrosion & high resistance. Same issue can occur at the regulator/rectifier connector. If not already needed, you may have already killed the solid state regulator/rectifier cranking it on a battery charger. Check that the stator windings aren't shorted and test for proper stator AC voltage output on the 3 yellow wires. Ultimately change all fluids including rear diff, brakes, clutch & bleed. Highly likely the bike will need all brake masters & clutch master & slave rebuilt, same for brake calipers, due to brake fluid gone bad in these systems from years of being parked. Cooling system should be drained & flushed. New thermostat will likely be needed. These bikes are very robust & reliable but pardon me for saying you're going about it the wrong way.... I'm not a hater on your video, just an experienced tech rendering opinion and advice. Good luck & Take care.
This is one of the most polite and helpful "you're wrong" comments I've ever seen! I plan on getting an oldwing once I have some more riding experience and this let me know some of the tings I'm in for, thank you!
Hey Joe I'm just a poor oldschool fella been on a 79 cb750 for 10 yrs preping to help a bro figyre his mess out any other main pointers ?
@@skeevnation655 Hi. No not really. Any further comment depends on what yr/make/model and what kind of "mess" it is you're working to repair?
I totally agree! I'm amazed it started ... but it did ... maybe sweet talking to them does work. But, in my experience, what you are saying is the correct application of love. Also, those brake and clutch lines all need to be taken apart, and all the cylinders - I guarentee there is a bunch of goo everywhere. Just go through the whole bike. Or, put seafoam and ether to start, and ride it like you stole it. Its an old honda - might not run perfect, but will limp along just fine for many miles.
Me and a buddy have three that we got, 2 84s and an 87 now just got to get them running
Great job
Must clean & service carbs, plugd, Braked, mix uper cylinder oil..in petrol. Replace battery, tyres, and use to limit.
Thanks for sharing
I don't care how old or what shape it's in, a gold wing is a gorgeous bike. I had a 1975 gl1000 that was full dress, was a great riding bike. BUT, this was always the one I wanted, a 1985-1988 gl1200
I have had 6. GL1000s
i had a 85 Interstate miss it I dont really like the Shadow ace that much but i got me a 79 Wing im getting restore but not rebuilt just bringing it back to life no paint no rebuilt none of that just a new seat took the Vetter tour pack off tho.
I bought a Honda Goldwing last year and it sat for 15 years I had to rebuild the carburetors rebuild the back brake system put new gas tank new fuel pump new master cylinder for the clutch and new front brake cylinders and now I got to replace my fork seals 28 years if it gets running it's most not likely because of the ethanol in the gas kills carburetor
Correct me if I am wrong, Ethenol did not show up in our gas till mid 2000s...
I'm in the uk, back in 1985 I was 16 and bought a Honda PXR 50, remember looking at these brand new at the dealer..............
My 1st new motorcycle was a 1986 Gold Wing, then a 1989 GL1500.
Excellent! 👍
good job glenn
They're awesome bikes to this day and were built really well.This is a really nice example(don't like the decals),that deserves a complete restoration.Good job!
Check what? I just picked one up that has been sitting 12 years. Please help
I have 3 wings, an 84 interstate, an 83 interstate 1100 and an 84 aspencade I bought at a swap meet for parts.
cleaning the carbs after so many years standing is probably compulsory, it would have been a lot easier on that starter motor. A lot of comments about timing belts (horrible car things), running the engine without replacing those would have scared the heck out of me.
Congrats! The Wing runs! A lot of the suggestion in the comment section makes your Honda Aspencade runs like real Honda again. The one that I disagree upon, is the soldering of the 3 yellow wires from the stator. Actually the melting of the connectors or loose connector saved your stator from burning. I think its an Engineering fault. If you remember, back in those years the speed limit is 55 MPH. With that said, the Wing never see a continues high RPM (above 80 MPH) driving. Above that, if all the charging sys are good and tight, the stator will overheat and self destruct because the regulator CANNOT regulate the self charging permanent magnet alternator. I think, I know what I'm talking about. I'm a retired automotive technician and I bought ( third owner) of a 1987 Honda Goldwing Aspencade. I had a good purchase of a good running Wing knowing the stator is bad and I know I can fix it. At first, I rode it with fully charges batteries and had a limited range(150 miles) by installing a dual battery. I didn't have a chance to pull the engine out to replace the stator. I finally replaced the stator and made all the connections solid. The charging sys was doing real good for at least 5 years until I road with my group going above 80 MPH for a long time. I found out the next day that it cranked slow. New battery and regulator was installed but found out the stator is not charging again. If your charging sys is still OK go ahead and fixed any loose charging sys wire connections. Just don't drive it over 80 MPH (cruise control regulated) for a long period otherwise you will be pulling the engine also. This happened to one of our group rider 86 Wing also. He adapted Geo Metro external alternator to fix it cause didn't want to pull the engine out. My carbureted '87 Wing is FOR SALE right now due to health problem and age (70). Its not in the Clist yet. Still have have the stator problem though but it runs good 6 months ago.
Thanks for the details... I am sure other owners will find value in them! My 1st new motorcycle was an 86 1200, have owned more than 15 wings over the years, I have put staters in 1200s and alternators in 1500s. An officer in GWRRA for 22 years, I have seen it all. I have never seen a stater fail if the three yellow wires were properly spliced early in life. The 1500s alternator however is a different story, even mine failed. I got good at replacing them. Did one for a guy in a campground in 30 min with only the bikes factory tool kit... Come to think of it, the guy never even offered me a dollar for it.... lol
The root cause is the basic design of EVERY motorcycle's charging system. Without exception, they consist of a permanent magnet whirling around inside a coil assembly. The coil feeds a regulator. The regulator grounds the coil when its output voltage exceeds the limit. The heat caused by the ground will destroy the stator and the regulator. Cars don't have this problem because the voltage regulator controls the alternator field voltage.
Thanks for the honest professional experience. As a retired DIESEL tech, (×3), I just acquired a low mileage 89 GL1500 -starting into the readability process on it.
@@deanbenson6879 The GW 1500 is a good bike. Honda finally got smarter and installed a removeable alternator without removing the engine. If its a fuel injected then you don't have driveability concern riding during very hot weather. All the best on your new ride.
I just turned 69. I hope to keep riding till at least 80. One never knows does one, we will see.
I had a 1982 it was great when I sold it I told the guy if anything broke with in 6 months I would pay for half to fix it. He never came back.
Yep.. take care of a Honda and it will take care of you!
Glenn
He said to the bike “your gonna live!”😂😂😂😂
Real awesome.
Just got my tags, insurance and first full tank of gas in the last 2 years of my girl 🏍 I can't wait to ride!
Wow. That thing is loaded down with about 100 pounds of junk. The 1200 Goldwing only had a 400 pound load capacity, and all that crap took up about 100 pounds of it. I never understood why so many owners turned their Goldwings into rolling junkyards. I see it has a trailer hitch on it, so it has obviously been abused. I would never try to start a Goldwing that has been sitting for a while without first pulling the plugs and soaking the cylinders in oil, change the oil and filter, and replacing the cam belts. if one breaks, the engine is toast. Goldwing engines are also prone to stuck valves after sitting for a while, and if a valve sticks open a piston is going to hit it. Always turn the engine over by hand first. I'd start by removing ALL the non stock junk. The fuel tank can be removed by removing the rear wheel and swingarm. DOT 3 is just fine, and is completely compatible with DOT 4. But it needs to be from a new, unopened container. The floorboards and heal and toe shifter should be removed and trashed, and replaced with the pegs and normal shifter it came with. Open the bleeder screw on the clutch master cylinder and let fluid dribble through it for a while. It's easy to gravity bleed. The primary seal on the plunger is probably bad. The HORRIBLE combined brake system can be converted to a normal brake system using parts from a late '90s Kawasaki Vulcan 1500 Classic. DO NOT use starting fluid. It is ether, and burns hot enough to burn holes in pistons. Use gasoline in a spray bottle. You're burning up the starter. Don't forget to check the coolant. Water pump seals are prone to fail on 4 cylinder Goldwings. That is not the stock exhaust. Goldwings only have one pipe on each side.
This guy had no idea what he was doing, but it's a honda It'll be fine
"it has a trailer hitch on it, so it has obviously been abused" Jackanory, Jackanory.
@@markrskinner Motorcycles are NOT designed to tow trailers. Doing so drastically increases wear and tear on the bike. Plain and simple.
Did you check fuel pump, replace fuel filter, drain carb., should not run starter that long, it will burn out.
Got a 85 wing..mint 40k miles..paid 1800.00
Gl1200 Interstate
Amazing to watch ! Did you consider checking the timing belts ? You done good
I sold this recently and said in my ad that it needs restored, including brakes and timing belts. Some people think the belts are some fragile rubber piece that will fall apart after 15 years. That is not the case. Now it's true that they should be replaced, I have replaced many that were 20 plus years old and they were still fairly soft, not cracked, and in tact. I wouldn't roll down the highway at 75 mph all day with them but for storage and running the engine once in a while, they are fine. When your ready to start riding it again, new belts!
You are doing a great service to bring that old deer back to life. Thanks for the video - excuse me, you talk a lot
awsome I have the same bike doing the same thing
wish me luck
They are fun to work on, and when you get it right, they go forever.
Have fun!.
Glenn
So many people are in panic mode about the timing belt, it's a valid concern but I bought a 1992 ST1100 with 65K miles from a guy who had no idea about what maintenance had been done. The belt might have 500 miles or 65K miles on it, I don't know but I rode it 2000 miles round trip shortly after I bought it. I figure that trip alone was worth what I paid for it but it is still running like a champ with 70k miles.
I agree with you. I have been around wings most of my adult life and have never seen a belt break yet. It doesn't mean it shouldn't be replaced but they are not "Fragile "
I like the old style better than the new ones
Sitting that amount of time it would be wise to re-run it in like a new engine. Keep under 60% power, that way you don’t snap a piston ring and destroy the bores, multiple heat cycles and slow power increase .
That starter is going to be traumatized after that start session…
Good job on cleaning out the tank, oil in the fuel...not so much. A little Upper Cylinder lube (AKA Marvels) much better- changing old oil out first, even better. Pull plugs and get the oil pressure up prior to light off. Stay at it, it was born to run!
I put oil in the fuel as this is a flat engine. If you put oil in the cylinders, it just lays in the bottom 5%.
@@GlennsSpeedShop I have a 81 1100 interstate that's sat for 30 years...What do you think about spraying wd40 in cylinders through spark plug holes to sit for weeks, then remove plugs again and crank engine to blow excess oil out before running it....? I also want to pour wd40 in gas tank to sit during same time....TIA...
Anything is better than nothing, remember these engine are flat, so getting oil to all parts of the cylinder may be impossible but something is better than nothing and if moisture got into them, it's on the bottom too. I suggest 2 stroke oil in the fuel and if you really care about it use an oil fogger. These are designed to use prior to long term parking.
Brand new oil that has been standing for 28 years? You have to be kidding.
The sparks are rusted out exhaust pieces. If it doesn’t clear out you might have a bad head gasket or a cracked water jacket caused by corrosion from sitting.
Picking up an 83 aspencade in a few days. Have you ever installed a water pump in one of these? The one is out of the 83 with the engine still on the frame. everything up front is removed but included. Wish me luck. the bike has 68k miles.
Remember it's just bolts and parts and gaskets, one piece at a time. You will do fine!
Glenn
Wow ,get the starting fluid !
Go wings if you'll pull that seat off the gas tanks is right underneath the seat that's that's how they build going but goings are bulletproof
Using water will make it more aggressive. Cheap trick when using cutting polish.
I had an 85 aspencade just like this. Put a 150 thousand miles on it. Traded it for a new 92.
Nice bike
Thanks ✌️
I had an ‘85 GL1200i Interstate that I put over 120K on, and did all the work myself including changing the stator, which involved tearing the whole bike apart and dropping the engine out. I sold it with 160K on it and drove it 300 mile to the new owner in LA. There were SO MANY things you should have done to that bike before you even touched the starter button that you are super lucky it didn’t just grenade on you. Good luck buddy, you need that because you sure are no motorcycle mechanic!
What should he have done before he hit the starter button 🎉
Nice bike,I have one
If you got mouse nest in airfilter it will plug the carbs fast
Should have pulled the plugs first and sprayed the cylinders. Just me maybe.
Absolutely correct!
I love gold wings had one says the five year 1000
I have had 6 GL1000s including a 1976 Limited Eddition
Nice bike owned one very good running bike has belt timing belts just like a car engine if you don’t have to take engine out don’t it’s shaft drive but other then that it’s is very cool bike
Just sold this one, delivering it tomorrow
Mice in the tail pipe!😅
It STARTED! Woooooowwww.😮
That's funny you said that's a good one just after I did . LOL
As a former goldwing owner and soon to have a new one. This hurts. Sorry for saying, but you could have done so much things way better and bring this beauty back to life for another 100.000 miles. Things don't repair by themselves. 1 piston is dead and rings need to be replaced. It is not that much of money and will give you the joy of the Goldwing. Please measure the pressure on every cilinder to find the bad one. Still give you a thumbs up, because I love goldwings.
Thanks for the comment. If I was going to keep the bike, this would be a whole different video series. I was just doing a favor for a friend who was moving to get this out of his barn, get it cleaned up and running, and sell it to someone who would give it a second life. It made good video content and the guy that bought it was a happy camper. From my perspective, I am better off taking the couple thousand dollars this project bike made me and put it towards a better bike... But for now, I have no desire to ride again.
Cheers!
Glenn
he tried in 98?? That plate expired in 98. in Oregon tabs are good from 2 years. That plate was last renewed in 96
It never fails to astonish me how these CZcams mechanics will just stand there and keep pressing the starter button until smoke starts to come out of the damn starter. If it doesn't start pressing the starter button until you fry the starter ain't going to work. There is obviously something else wrong from when I can hear it's only firing on two cylinders
Hola.... Saludos desde Costa Rica, Centroamérica
Cracking video, lovely bike, but for me the Kawasaki Voyager xii was/is the better machine
Fuel tank is removed by removing the saddle bags, rear fender, rear wheel and tire,rear shocks, seat. Not the engine.
Doing my '84 now.
I like how he gives positive encouragement to this motorcycle. Now that’s love only a true biker can give. Talking about some TLC.❤
Oh shit this hauled a trailer!!!!!!!!
All the way back in the 50's gas stations had a gas called Ethel which had alcohol in it
"Ethyl" was shorthand for "tetraethyl lead", a valve lubricant and octane improver that was eventually replaced.
Having to use the choke to run should have been a clue to you that the carbs were dirty and certainly a sparkplug could have been fouled as well.
I agree. Buddy's wife had a 1300vtx that sat in the garage for years. Same exact issue. Wouldn't run off choke. We cleaned the carbs with carb cleaner spray and ran in some seafoam and fresh gas, and she is now golden. But even then we didn't rev the heck out of it....
Hey Glenn,what are those gauges on top of the right side glove box lid ?
I looked everywhere and didn't see any picture or reference.
One was the Hondaline Volt Meter and the other the Honda line Altimeter.
before i tell you how to choke it i have to say first, that is not a choke, it is an enricher, pus it till it stops and then push it a little bit more. o yea it only enriches one carb, i think number 3.