Top 6 MISTAKES with MOKA POT!!
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Moka pot top 6 common mistakes. Try you avoid them and you will achieve a good consistent coffee every time. If you are looking for the good tips, they are in my channel!!!
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Finally, an Italian CZcamsr who didn't say you'll ruin your Moka Pot by cleaning it!
I made a video on how to brew with a Moka Pot and every other comment was somebody pissed off because I said basically the same thing you did. It's not hard people: everything needs to be cleaned if you don't want it to taste rancid.
Sorry to hear about the comment you get. Unfortunately people still believe to old myths. Always happy to hear that someone thinks like I do
after brewing don’t leave the wet coffee in the pot for days, clean the filter every once in a while and you are good. the patina in the top is fine, it’s never rancid. using a moka pot isn’t rocket science.
I agree about he cleaning, it only takes a minute and you end up with a much better coffee.
I clean, thoroughly, and immediately, but never with soap. My 78 moms pots are in great condition, even after 30 years.
@@DrDavelopehow do you have 78 moms?😂 you so crazy
As a kid of Italian migrants, I grew up in Australia around my mum, relatives and family friends using their cafeterias (Moka pots) to make espresso on a daily basis. It was weird that my Aussie friends didn’t know what espresso was! When I left home, mum gifted me her old cafeteria which I still use over 30yrs later (needs a new gasket though). The pot is well used and well trained!
Those are 6 great tips. Two additional tips I’ve picked up:
1/Use hot water - the coffee will extract sooner without the puck potentially overheating / drying out during the time the cold water takes to reach extraction temperature. Use a tea towel to hold the boiler when screwing the top on!
2/ if storing for a long time, wash well, dry completely and drop some fresh ground coffee in the boiler.
And bonus 3/ don’t plunge the hot boiler into cold water or under running water (some channels advise this at the end of extraction - crazy idea). It can condense the steam in the boiler which will create a vacuum that can suck the basket into the boiler. Bye bye pot if that happens.
Salute!
Hi! Thanks for sharing your story. Crazy how Australia changed in terms of coffee.
About your tips, good to use warm water, but there is also a downside of that. About the storing, good to wash and dry completely, but be careful with ground coffee there, because if by any chance it absorb moist, then it will build mould.
@@RobertSmith-up9rz lol rrrrrrrrrrrright
That last part is so disconnected from reality, I am not sure who told you that, but no lmao
@@frankguy6843 disconnected from reality eh? Tell that to basic high school physics (steam condensation creating a vacuum) and a past cafeteria of mine. **SMH**
@@robsalvv5853 The pressures inside a moka pot are just not going to reach high enough to do what you claim, the physics is sound, the magnitude is way off
No.7 - Don't overfill the basket. If coffee grounds get into the thread the moka pot won't seal correctly. This always means spluttering and a ruined brew.
Like this as well! Also the gasket can get ruined from coffee ground scratching on it. Very good top mistake!
thanks for the extra tip! do you recommend filling the basket all the way to the top or slightly below?
@@mdh4h3r6 Level is fine. Just make sure there are no grinds on the rim when putting it together. I run my finger along it to make sure that any grinds are pushed into the middle. I also know that 9g of coffee is perfect for my one-cup Moka, so that's what I do.
@@AndyGait thanks a ton!
@@mdh4h3r6 No problem, my friend.
I found an older moka pot at a thrift store and figured I could try it. Thank you for your videos. They have been so helpful, especially about cleaning all the parts.
Thanks for your comment. I'm happy I could help
Thanks for your tutorials. They have significantly improved my moka pot brewing experience. The thermometer trick was especially helpful. It's great to know that it's actually heating up! Setting the heat to 3 on my induction stove just barely heats the thing up, whereas 1 and 2 actually don't seem to break even, and cause it to cool down over time instead. I use this to my advantage to control the flow of coffee.
Now here are some of my own tips!
It's great using a filter above the coffee. It produces a brew that is cleaner and less bitter. I actually use filter below the coffee as well, to prevent the coffee from flowing back into the water tank. It makes cleanup just a little bit easier.
When it comes to cleaning up the moka pot, removing the gasket underneath the upper tank can be quite tricky at first. I use the tip of a butter knife. Just slide it in from the center, angle the knife so that it gets underneath the gasket, hold onto the gasket with your fingers so it doesn't go back in, and move the knife around the perimeter of the gasket from underneath until it comes out enough for you to finally pull it out with your fingers. You can avoid the rubbery taste that the new gasket makes by taking it out and washing it before you brew with the moka pot for the first time.
To prevent coffee from staining the upper tank after each brew, I add the leftover water from my hot kettle to the tank right after I pour out the coffee. That way, the moka pot is practically cleaning itself while it has a chance to cool down.
You made my day. I’m so glad I can help. I’m also learning a lot from all the comments I get in my videos, included yours. I really like your routine and your way of thinking, regarding cleaning as well. Thank you very much for your support! Have a great day!
@caveymoth
What filter do you use?
@@amandaa3713 Just some generic coffee maker filters I have laying around. I flatten them and use the moka pot basket as a template to draw circles, which I cut out. It's kind of labor intensive. I hear that Aeropress filters might work as they come.
Heating it at a gentle heat on the stove, and taking it off as soon as it's ready are absolute game changers.
Thanks. I lived in ltaly for almost 20 years so wasn't making those mistakes but, it was really interesting to learn WHY not to do them. Still use the moka pot that my friends gave me as a farewell present 30 years ago too. I use it everyday so, it was lucky they included a supply of gaskets and handles in the gift, as it was many years before they were available here in Aotearoa/ New Zealand. I still remember how silly l felt holding a moka sobbing my heart out. Off to clean mine now though, as l've realised it's been a while.😊
Thank you for sharing your story. A well kept moka can last for a very long time
I love your accent and sense of humour! I wanted to avoid having to buy a big bulky coffee machine and didn't know much about moka pots. Then came across your channel and am hooked; I've learned so much and am now more certain that I don't need a big coffee machine! Terrific videos - thank you so much!
Thank you so much for your nice words, it means a lot to me. 🙏
I found a DeLonghi electric moka pot at Goodwill for $18. It is old (and very solid). It looked like it was used ONCE and sat in a closet for a couple of decades before it was donated.
But my very favorite of all is the Bialetti Mukka Pot. They say it is for cappuccino but I think it works better for coffee. It is one of the few devices that has a special internal valve that builds pressure and suddenly releases it. Unlike my Gaggia Classic Pro.... I get a nice, big cup of coffee that is as hot as it gets. I found it for $35 on my local facebook.
No matter what method you use, a good grinder is needed always. Pour over is the best for home imo. Moka pots are great when you want to mimic milk drinks.
I was so pleased to find you today, and I love your articles. It’s refreshing to find someone who is knowledgeable and gives helpful advice in such a precise and friendly way. I adore your accent too 💜
Thanks you very much for your comment. It makes me happy that I could help. Thanks again! ☺
I think using to high heat (overextraction) and not stirring the brew was my common mistake. Thanks for another interesting video.
If you're in Italy - find a Bialetti store! So much fun for Moka Pot enthusiasts!
I bought this machine from a friend but no booklet, you have helped me immensely
Glad I could help.
I've been making coffee in my little moka pot every day for almost 10 years. I like to lightly tamp the grounds - it makes it a little stronger. I've also always made it on a big burner, but place it so that the handle isn't over the flame. I've been totally brain dead and put in the grounds with no water, so that after a while I figured it out when it smelled like it was burning. It still didn't seem to damage the pot or the gaskets.
Super cool video! I just got my first moka pot & Im learning how to use it. This video was really fun & gave plenty of tips that the longer, more analytical videos gave.
Thanks for a great tutorial. Just a couple of tips i'd like to add. The sealing gasket needs changing regularly and i prefer to use a camping stove instead of one of my cooker rings.
I also started using a MSR camping burner. Way better.
Thanks for the advice! I’m learning so much from your videos.
The only one that I wasn't doing i properly s stirring the coffee, and thank you very much for that tip.
You're doing it wrong!
Pour the entire output of the moka pot into one cup, and you're done. No need to stir it in the maker. That's just silly.
Whenever I brew some specialty coffee (yes, it works) with my Bialetti Express 1pers. Moka I always tap the coffee basket a few times to release all the air that is in the grinds so the result is nice and clean when the comes out. Plus, low heat, 30sec brew, max 32sec (depends on recipe) you can easily leave the moka lit opened as no bubbles will come out until the brew is done. On the first bubble-> straight under the water to stop the brewing so all the acidity doesn't get released.
I've been drinking moka pot coffee for years. Never heard the tip of stirring it (which sounds very right). Will try it tomorrow and report. Thanks!
👍👍👍this is a wonderful presentation! Helpful advice, and loaded with humour!
Thanks :)
I have recently bought a stainless steel moka pot from Giannini. It is so interesting to see different models applying the same basic methods of brewing coffee but in slightly different ways. I really want to make a comparison between my Bialetti and the Giannini moka pots but I sometimes find it difficult to achieve a consistent brew which tastes the same as the coffee the day before 😅 so maybe I should start with that first.
Comparisons are always interesting. The most important thing is coffee brewing, and I'm talking about all the brewing methods, is to be able to control variables. To be able to control them, first of all with need to understand them. That is the only way. Everyone and every Moka can make a good coffee, but what we should aim for is consistency. You are right when you say sometimes is difficult to achieve consistency but with knowledge and methodology we can do it.
Excellent description and great tips. Thank you!
thanks ! :)
Thank you Matteo for your interesting and very useful videos!
Thanks for your comment I really appreciate it
Well turns out I am guilty of a few of these things without having a single idea I was doing anything wrong. I'll make some changes, thanks for the video my friend!
Thanks for the comment, I hope my tips could help you
thanks! i was sure that i wasnt going to be guilty in doing any mistakes but one actually was useful - i do use too much heat when making coffee which explain why sometimes the water gets pressed through the ring and out the side of the pot! I will try to contain myself but when you want coffee, and fast, you are tempted to turn the heat up for faster brew..
when you put the heat up you gain a few seconds, but if then the water boil it sill slow down because the sputtering.
Oh boy, I've been blowing it here - thank you for the tips!
Thanks for your comment Patricia, I hope my tips can help you.
Thanks for this video! Love the info and the humor. One thing I still want to know is what to use to clean my moka pot. Obviously not fragranced dish soap but what is the proper cleaner?
Hi Sandy, I made a full video about Moka Pot cleaning that you can check here: czcams.com/video/XZzPEdfkP08/video.html
Have a look if you want. About the not fragranced dish shop you are right, but it's very challenging to find one that is not. At least here in Italy.
Thanks so much for the nice words. :)
Love your Channel:) down to Earth sensible how-to advice frome the home of moka pots ☕✨👍
Thank You 🌸☕🌼
I love your accent it makes the video even better thanks for this tips I am thinking to buy my first moka pot 😊
:) Thanks for the comment. When you going to get your pot I have many moka pot videos in my channel you can check
Thank you ! ..learnt some good tips ☕️
Great video. Do you recommend aluminum or stainless steal and why?
I like aluminium mokas, but that is my personal preference. Stainless steal mokas are easy to maintain though.
Thank you! I now enjoy my coffee while using an Italian accent!
Pleasure :)
Thank You Mateo 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 Appreciate the Tips!
Thanks so much for your comment and the feedback! :)
Great work. Love your videos Matteo
Thanks! 🙏
Just found this! I place a thin metal plate over my gas burner and put my pot on that to avoid what you described about the flames.
that is a great solution. I use an induction diffuser plate
This is our second K-Classic. We had our first one for many years, so when we had to replace it, we wanted nothing else but this exact czcams.com/users/postUgkxBrV-RbF5Nk0Rlt9i15aao-YMzqzTG8Vf model. We use it for about three people everyday in the morning. The taste and quick brew is one of the reasons we like it so much. There are so many choices of brands of coffee that we would grab what was on sale and test the different brands from there. I would definitely recommend trying different brands of coffee to find the ones you like the most because there are brands that quite frankly taste horrible.
Thank for sharing, I'm new using moka pot.
I just got a Moka pot for Christmas, which I've never used before - or even heard of until last summer!
I hope you enjoying it. and I hope I can help to getting to know it better
He thx for the tips. what do you think of an electric mokka pot. (we use it in beachhouse, no gas)
I would add changing the rubber gasket is critical.
How often to change the filter/ gasket ?
And seems awkward to remove, and to damage gasket upon removal?
Not obvious where to order new filters, gaskets from. Are they standard sizes?
you can lightly compress the grounds in the basket if you leave just a small amount of room at the tip and if your grounds are a little coarser than they need to be. I've been doing it for a while now, and my coffee is still consistently extracted with no dry spots or channeling, but I am able to get a slightly heavier dose and a coffee with more body out of the brew
You know your variable and how to control it and you should continue with that. About your way to distribute the coffee in the basket, I like it (I also do it sometimes in the same way), but most of the people that use Moka pot in this planet don't have a grinder and buy already pre ground coffee and that usually is fine ground. So for them is better to avoid it.
I just tap the basket on the counter a few times to consolidate and level the coffee grounds in the basket. But I never actually tamp it.
I was always taught by Nonna to have a pile on top like Mount Vesuvius
My biggest mistake: no water in the lower part of the pot.
Very good. Thank you from England.
Thanks for the tutorial !
Thanks!
Great points. Thank you. Trying several methods to obtain a Crema. Watched you video regarding this also.
The reality Rob is that moka pot is not made to achieve the crema like an espresso, you need much more pressure or a valve to achieve that. Things that bialetti moka express doesn’t have them
IMO, you want to avoid 'crema' in a moka-pot. It tends to give the coffee a burned tasted. IMO: pour it off just as it starts hard-sputtering for best results.
Clever video. Love and peace. Tim
Thank you that was a useful video 🤝
Thank you for your feedback :)
I bought a Bialetti Moka pot and returned it because after only a couple of uses I found discoloration and powder rubbing off the inside of the water part at the bottom. I got another and the same thing happened. Any water put in it becomes contaminated and discolored. I didn’t scrub them in any way with any harsh cleaning products.
Any idea what the deal is? Should I prep it some way before using.
Amaaaaazing what I'm learning from my friend Alexander ❤
Thank you. Useful and fun.
Thanks for your comment!
Great info thanks! 👍
Thanks, man, have a nice moka😊
I love your content Matteo, I was really making 3 out of these 6 mistakes ahah, but I still don't understand why I have a lot of remaining water when I am done brewing the coffee!
Thanks so much for your nice comment :). The moka is suppose to have some water on the bottom because the end of the funnel doesn't touch the bottom of the lower chamber. This to give the ability to water pass through. Also if you consume all the water and you forget the moka on the stove, the pot can reach very high temperature e you damage it. So it also good for safety reason. So do not worry.
@@matteofromtheswamps Awesome, thanks a lot :)
Thank you for this question?I was wondering this as well.
Quick question on the cleaning. I do clean regulary with taking the parts out, piercing the filter holes and getting the chunks out and all. Then cleaning it with warm water.
But what with the use of dishwasher soap? I've always heard that you don't clean it with the soap because that little film layer doesn't give you the metal taste that you have when you make it the first couple of times.
You can use soap without problem. The saying on the layer is a myth. The oils can create rancid flavours. So cleaning is good. You can use soap, no dishwasher, but make use you rinse it well and dry the Moka afterwards. That is the most important thing.
😆 grazie per la spiegazione semplice e divertente!
Grazie mille :)
thanks for the advice. I always have some water left in the pot, after the coffee has stopped coming out) Is that normal ?
Yes it is very normal. The system doesn't allow all the water to go up, also for safety reason.
Dude, it’s great. Have a great day ☕️
No.8 - Don't pour milk in the water chamber !
That for me is not even classifiable XD. That goes over the mistake
@@matteofromtheswampsCan I put it in the top?
Thanks for the tips, however I do use the tamper to compress the coffee in the basket but with a gentle pressure and it works perfectly, no channeling and no bitterness. Ciao Mateo
Thanks for the comment. Honestly with you, there is no nothing wrong about tamping if you know how to manage it. I have some friends that can master it, but I try to advice against it now. One day I'll make a full video and explain how to manage it.
You are already forward XD
@@matteofromtheswamps Yesterday I put a paper filter on top of the metal filter and coffee came more clean and somehow with better taste. Cheers
@@akula1055 Amazing! yeah, Paper filter can be magic!
great simple video .
Thanks
the pot needs to be very tight to get all water through the grounds but 1. how to unlock and how to keep the coffee from spewing all over, e.g.do I have to keep lid closed
What is a proper heat on electric stove please
Cricket
Great video!
Thank you very much for the comment!
Grazie, a lot of this I did not know. Great !
Happy I could help, Thanks so much!
What method would your recommend for cleaning the moka pot after use?
Thanks!
I made a separate video about that. If you want to check it out you can find it on my channel.
Your video was to the point, How can you clean the inside of a moka chamber - where you put the water - from all the black spots, that have been built through the years? I have tried vinegar etc but nothing works. Thanks
Thanks so much for the comment. Try with bicarbonate of soda and water and leave it for a bit. Unfortunately that is very hard to remove
Great info. THX 😁💪
You are welcome. Thanks for the comment :)
My first coffee in my moka pot came out thick like an espresso. But every one after is thinner, like very dark coffee. I am not packing down the coffee, i fill up the bottom with hot water below the valve and a heat on low. I dont know what in doing different from the first time. Im using a moka pot Venus.
Different course of coffee grounds I believe n maybe more pressure on the first time too
Do you put cold or hot water to make coffee?
Hi, it really depends on the coffee. I made a video on my channel about that. If you want you can check it out.
Can you put boiling water in the lower part to speed up the process or does it have to be cold water?
I never suggest placing boiling water because it can lead to sputtering. You can place warm water inside. I made a video specifically on that on my channel with some good guidelines.
From my experience, try Ethiopian Sidamo, that’s my favorite! find a coffee roaster/ grinder close to your home ( I can’t stand the coffee grinder noise 😂) You can store some of it inyour freezer , so you can have a stash for a few weeks, there’s nothing like a Bialetti 🤗👍👍👍& for me using hot water is no issue at all.
Ethiopia is always good! careful with placing coffee in the freezer. Taking it in and out make the ground moist because coffee has the ability to absorb humidity and this will ruin the coffee. If you want to store in freezer you should portion it and take out what you need that day. Otherwise you can use vacuum container and leave it in the cupboard.
We have a full-size gas stove, but a single serve moka pot, is there anything I can buy so I’m not just using the edge of the flame?
you can get a stainless steel stove heat diffuser. They usually are used for induction hob, but it works on a normal stove.
Wow makes me want to buy one if these. I’ll stick to my Keurig.
Thanks for this! Just gifted myself a moka pot - looking for crema. Is that possible?
Hello! Thanks for the comment and the support! I hope you can find useful videos on my channel. More will come with the time.
Crema wise in theory Moka Pot is not supposed to make crema like an espresso machine. You can get some crema if you use a very fresh roasted coffee and when you try to push the pressure to the limit. If you drink the coffee with sugar I made a video on how to make the crema using coffee and sugar. You can find it on the channel
The bottom of my boiler has lost much of its silver coating and looks dark. Is it safe to use? Thanks
try to make a solution water vinegar and let it boil on stove for 10/15 and see if you can remove the black marks. That happens because aluminium oxidation. remember to keep the moka always dry after you clean it
What do you think about filling the chamber with hot water? Is it really good or not?
filling with warm water depends on coffee roast level. Dark roast coffee room temperature water, light roast warm water, but never boiling water, that can encourage sputtering.
Love this video. But i just use a Moccamaster, its amazing!
Thanks. Nice, but with Moccamaster you make filter coffee, moka is a bit different.
Moccamaster is nice but a bit limited. There are better brewers on the market.
In Italy now, just made coffee for the first time in a Moka Pot…I thought you put Milk in the Top and water on the bottom 🙃ironic but it came out ok, the water and mile actually mixed to make a latte type coffee. The Biggest problem, was too much liquid and I made a mess😮. Going to try again now, appreciate the tips ❤
With the classic Moka Express you are not suppose to put milk. There is another Biallt moka called Mukka where you can put the milk on top. Enjoy Italy!
Great video thanks Like the humour too😂🎉
Thank you so much for the feedback :)
Nice to the point....
What is the correct level of water? (I always fill to just below the safety valve)
That it's good, also depends on brewing ratio and roasting level of coffee. More contents about that will come soon on my channel
Great video, about stirring the coffee, the video could benefit a lot by an example of you doing it, I'm just guessing how to do it hehe. Also, I would love to hear if you fill the Moka with hot or cold water. Thanks for all your tips :)
Thanks for your comment and feedback. This video is just my top 6 mistakes about moka pot, I have several videos here on my channel where I explain more in depth techniques. I also made a video about hot and cold water. I will appreciate if check that out and also if you want share your experience.
Thanks again :)
Thanks a lot, I watched the other videos now. Keep up the great work :) btw, if is there a video explaining some other mistakes, I would love to hear, my Moka have 2 constant issues: coffee coming out watery and sometimes not coming water at all :/
@@matteofromtheswamps ok I can see this pattern, every time it went wrong I was using hot water and you talk about it hehe, I will avoid it, thanks for the tips 🙏
What an amazing video and a funny presentation ❤❤
Thank you very much :)
Gratzie!!
Hello, do you have a favorite moka pot for overall performance and taste?
The very important thing on the Moka is the filter, it can completely change the cup of coffee. I always use the one from E&B Lab. They also do a very good Moka Pot. You can find a video about metal filters on my channel. Thanks 🙏
I am guilty of 6, bit of 5 sometimes, 3 and 1 also sometimes.
With 6 i was feeling the diffrence but haven't thought about it at all.
Glad this video popped up on my page! Now i go for your cleaning video and then some drink heh
Thanks for the comment and sharing. The stirring is actually something so banal but yet can make a huge different when you share coffee with other people. Thank you very much for the support :)
@@matteofromtheswamps After this and cleaning video i made to me and my brother tonic espresso and this time without mistakes above (and today's morning as well haha). It was HUGE diffrence with only that few steps.
Thank you very much as well! ^.^
@@8DethTroll8 I’m so glad! Thanks very much sharing this with me!
Would you advise washing the moka pot with detergents? I know that stripping the metal of all the residual oils will lead to a metallic taste in coffee -- is that even true?
Yes I do advice if the moka needs it. You won't strip any metal off in you use a soft sponge. That story about the oil is a wrong fact. Moka should be clean.
Anything I can do if my (electric) stovetop diameter is too large for the pot?
There no problem with that. The heat is anyway well distributed on the base and you don't have flames climbing the size of the moka.
Grazie mille
Apart from stirring the coffee this is all recommended in the instructions.
What is correct level of water? Just at the level where safety valve is, isn’t?
Just a bit lower the valve is perfect as a start
Apparently I'm making the perfect coffee...☕
Very good
I wish you would say more about HOW to clean the Moka pot. Since we are not supposed to use soap, what do you recommend?
I actually made a full video about that and it’s on my channel. You can check it out. It’s also the most popular one
Thanks!
What could be possible wrong with soap?
😂👍Start to clean the Moka Pot... immediately!
#7 Don't wash it in your washing machine..I only use hot water uner the tap, no detergent.
Fantastic video, my friend! I just fill the water to the line just below the pressure valve, filter not too full of coffee, carefully pour just a little water over the top of the coffee, and carefully return the top half.
I don’t know if this is correct? Maybe this ‘primes the pump’ and distributes water more evenly too the coffee?
Also, I hear some say to brew the coffee patiently, at the lowest temperature, to achieve the most flavor possible out of the coffee beans. What do you think? Again, thank you my friend, and subscribed.
Thank you so much for sharing these info and for the support. There is nothing wrong on your method. pre wetting the coffee ground is something I've been experimenting and for sure I'll make a video about that. brewing slower increase the extraction because the longer contact time water/coffee. So yes, more flavours in general.
When you clean the moka pot, do you recommend using the same kind of soap for cleaning regular dishes?
Hi, yes, regular soap is fine. I don't use it often. Important is to wash it well and dry it straight away to avoid oxidations
@@matteofromtheswamps thank you! That is very helpful. Without the soap, I don't see how I can easily wash off the coffee from the silicon gasket and other parts of the pot. It is the oil that would get rancid, after all.
@@thihal123 I always remove the parts and keep them stored separately. I you also do that, soap and wash is easy. If you don't take apart the component, soap can remain trapped inside. So if you take apart the components, soap, wash and dry is very fine.
@@matteofromtheswamps thank you!
I have always filled over the safety valve. 1000s of pots made with zero issues. 💪