Katie Bouman “Imaging a Black Hole with the Event Horizon Telescope”

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  • čas přidán 7. 06. 2024
  • Dr. Katie Bouman, who starts as assistant professor of computing and mathematical sciences at Caltech in June 2019, describes how the Event Horizon Telescope team captured the first-ever image of a black hole.
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  • @johnjay6370
    @johnjay6370 Před 5 lety +43

    THIS IS OUR FIRST GO AT THIS!!!! I can't wait till we prefect this over the next few years...Great Job!! You and your team are AMAZING and THANK YOU!!!

    • @melmelcortez
      @melmelcortez Před 5 lety

      john N yessss. Black hole images popping up left and right.

    • @cymoonrbacpro9426
      @cymoonrbacpro9426 Před 4 lety +1

      john N *When a Image is not a photo.*
      I hate to bust your black hole bubble, but, this EHT M87 is actually a computer generated virtual image using less than 1% of the data!
      Programmers using mathematical rules on how much data randomness any given picture can contain, and how bright it should be and how likely it is that neighboring pixels will look similar, have designed a program to filter out and add data to get the image, in other words, they are sculpturing the data to fit the expected image. Sound Reasonable? But consider this, they are not using 50% or 25% but less than 1% , to be more precise, they are only using 1 billionth the data received by the 8 telescopes to construct this image, it Sounds mighty suspicious to me that they are inadvertently imposing biased (template) image on the data, Simply bogus.

    • @JM-us3fr
      @JM-us3fr Před 4 lety +1

      Shep Doleman (the researcher leading the charge on the EHT) was one of the early developers of the VLBI technique, so this wasn't exactly people's first attempt. Nonetheless, it sounds like they had to develop a lot of new machinery to get this to work.

  • @AnexoRialto
    @AnexoRialto Před 5 lety +9

    Best presentation I've seen on how the image of the black hole was actually generated and why the resulting image is trustworthy.

    • @circusOFprecision
      @circusOFprecision Před 5 lety +1

      The image might be “trustworthy”, but it’s not an image of a black hole.

    • @cymoonrbacpro9426
      @cymoonrbacpro9426 Před 5 lety +1

      Greg K *Black hole craze*
      Science by voting, Let’s Calm down. This is not a photograph, this is a reconstructed image using data from different radio telescopes and then the image is interpreted according to what is suspected to be there, and if all the teams believe in black hole then it must be. But these type of phenomenon has been observed by optical telescopes they are called *Ring Galaxy which is a galaxy with a circle-like appearance. Hoag's Object, discovered by Art Hoag in 1950, is an example of a ring galaxy.* The ring contains many massive, relatively young blue stars, which are extremely bright. The central region contains relatively little luminous matter. Calling this object a black hole is self-imposed wishful thinking! Click here to see a ring galaxy (Hoag object) apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0209/hoag_hst.jpg now everything should be OK because there’s a sucker born every minute!

  • @nick18303
    @nick18303 Před 5 lety +11

    Please never stop working on what you clearly enjoy a lot, best of luck on your journey, keep us nubs updated

  • @janojonannsro9299
    @janojonannsro9299 Před 5 lety +5

    I thoroughly enjoyed this very well explained scientific presentation. I am looking forward to the EHT’s next discovery!

  • @WilliamHMoore
    @WilliamHMoore Před 5 lety +6

    This lecture is a great compliment to the papers just published. The talk is really well-organized with informative graphics and Dr Bouman's narrative really brings it to life. This also made me appreciate how hard and what an accomplishment the M87 images were. Thank you for posting.

  • @philipdrexler6226
    @philipdrexler6226 Před 5 lety +6

    Dr Bouman, you are a great teacher! I am far from a mathematician or a photographer but understood all of your concepts and explanations because your presentation was straightforword, given in plain language, and crystal clear.

  • @neildoherty1501
    @neildoherty1501 Před 3 lety +1

    Great to follow a project from beginning through to successful completion. Congrats to all.

  • @darrenmarchant1720
    @darrenmarchant1720 Před 5 lety +2

    her excitement is infectious.

  • @ad2181
    @ad2181 Před 2 lety

    Amazing achievement!! Thanks for posting this.

  • @evenaicantfigurethisout
    @evenaicantfigurethisout Před 5 lety +1

    Caltech,can you please post in the description the arxiv links for all the papers used in this presentation? Thx

  • @ceejay8098
    @ceejay8098 Před 5 lety +120

    We can clearly see that her mind talks faster than her mouth
    I have the same problem so i understand her i never did something great its all in the mind but guess its the laziness

    • @robertosharplesshecht7805
      @robertosharplesshecht7805 Před 4 lety +2

      So you have to practice a public talk to general people otherwise you are just a lab rat that doesnt to the last step in scientfic method. Communicate

    • @silverfang6455
      @silverfang6455 Před 3 lety

      Bomb king what are you doing here ?

  • @modolief
    @modolief Před 5 lety +68

    Fantastic. The first interesting post-announcement video I've seen on this topic. Lots of content, no repetitive fluff.

    • @ManrajGrover
      @ManrajGrover Před 5 lety +2

      Do check out her Ted talk she gave a couple of years ago.

    • @modolief
      @modolief Před 5 lety +2

      To be clear: The publication of the image is the new result; so when I see some video about this result and they begin to explain to me what is a black hole and what is an event horizon ... I just want to yawn all over again. But here, we jump in and get some *real science* ... just jam-packed with cool information and investigative technique. Bravo.

  • @Knax4747
    @Knax4747 Před 5 lety +15

    "dont know if you can see it on this projector" Makes me feel right at home

    • @theodorechandra8450
      @theodorechandra8450 Před 5 lety +4

      I'm waiting for a random error from the slide pausing and skip 3 slides altogether.

  • @audguy21
    @audguy21 Před 5 lety +11

    An amazing presentation! This entire view was very useful in understanding the "black box" of creating the first black hole image. Congratulations to the entire 200+ EHT team, and thanks to Katie for this great presentation.

    • @cymoonrbacpro9426
      @cymoonrbacpro9426 Před 5 lety

      *Fact or fiction* (What Exactly is this picture?)
      Computer generated composite picture made From data received by multiple radio telescopes and processed via software, this is not a real photograph, is it is a part of a self imposed deception of the scientific community, in other words, it is Bullshit! And You are participating in Propagating this lie! Just listen to yourself, “they wanted to create” And indeed they did, nothing but a bunch of self deceived con artist and you have become part of this scheme or scam!
      The astrophysical community has violated the following principle expressed in this statement “I would like to add something that's not essential to the science, but something I kind of believe, which is that you should not fool the laymen when you're talking as a scientist. . . . I'm talking about a specific, extra type of integrity that is not lying, but bending over backwards to show how you're maybe wrong, [an integrity] that you ought to have when acting as a scientist. And this is our responsibility as scientists, certainly to other scientists, and I think to laymen. “-Richard Feynman .
      *So what is this thing?*
      This object is more like a *Ring Nebula,* very common object! See this s22380.pcdn.co/wp-content/uploads/2018-05-30_5b0f2bae3e351_RingNebulaM57RTMC5-25-18StackedStretched_HDRST.jpg
      Or a *Ring galaxy* see picture upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/da/Hoag%27s_object.jpg

  • @SolSystemDiplomat
    @SolSystemDiplomat Před 5 lety +5

    Look forward to more radio telescopes being added in the future and more data points being available.
    Hopefully this opens the door for more funding, more construction, and more exploring.
    So exciting!

  • @ulrichsemrau1561
    @ulrichsemrau1561 Před 5 lety +67

    Her mind is moving at light speed. What an amazing person. Hope that she and the team are presented with the Nobel for this amazing accomplishment.

    • @michaelbauers8800
      @michaelbauers8800 Před 5 lety +1

      She crammed so much stuff into this lecture, and being put through the media wringer just days ago. I am very impressed with how good the presentation is given the circumstances. I am sure she can slow down a bit, and clean up the presentation, but the content is the important part.

    • @Colonies_Dev
      @Colonies_Dev Před 5 lety

      She didn't do it by herself tho 😂 didn't anyone watch her explain this? She said it at the start, this is far from truth

    • @cymoonrbacpro9426
      @cymoonrbacpro9426 Před 5 lety

      Ulrich Semrau It’s nice when you have high school students give this presentations!

    • @danm4320
      @danm4320 Před 5 lety +3

      @@Colonies_Dev She did lead her team though that produced the now iconic image which is why she's getting the attention. But rightly so, her team deserves a lot of the credit too

    • @cymoonrbacpro9426
      @cymoonrbacpro9426 Před 5 lety +1

      Dan M These types of images have been produced before, nothing new here. Which is astronomical interferometer that is an array of separate telescopes, radio telescope antennas that work together as a single telescope to provide higher resolution images of astronomical objects such as stars, nebulas and galaxies by means of interferometry. But the thing which is questionable is the interpretations what this object is.

  • @michaelbauers8800
    @michaelbauers8800 Před 5 lety +112

    Even important projects use Python. I approve.

    • @MatheusLB2009
      @MatheusLB2009 Před 5 lety

      Mind telling at which section she comments of using Python? I didn't catch that :p

    • @HYPERC666
      @HYPERC666 Před 5 lety +3

      @@MatheusLB2009 30:20

    • @mentalplayground
      @mentalplayground Před 5 lety +4

      2.x or 3x version of Python?

    • @michaelbauers8800
      @michaelbauers8800 Před 5 lety +1

      @@MatheusLB2009 I would tell you, if I remembered. But as far as I know, Python was mentioned.

    • @jamesdriscoll9405
      @jamesdriscoll9405 Před 5 lety +6

      It's on github, "eht-imaging"

  • @jacobvartuli507
    @jacobvartuli507 Před 5 lety +2

    Extraordinary! I'm excited for more to come.

  • @artiteam1395
    @artiteam1395 Před 5 lety +3

    Congrats.
    Respect.
    Exciting.

  • @a-square4085
    @a-square4085 Před 5 lety

    Great Job!!!!! Can't wait to see the video of Sag*. There's so much more than just the first picture of a black hole.

  • @debrawehrly9551
    @debrawehrly9551 Před 3 lety +1

    Very interesting. Keep up the good work, Katie! Do not let the haters bring you down. They are not happy with their own lives.

  • @hsfjw
    @hsfjw Před 2 lety +1

    You guys are genius! If you guys need more VLBI telescope spots or quantum computing resources for better calculations, I’m more than happy to sponsor my bit 🙏

  • @iampracticingpiano
    @iampracticingpiano Před 5 lety +2

    "Imposing", "Imply", "incorporating", "assuming"--these words reveal where the "math is fuzzy"--this is much room for error in the process Dr. Bouman described.

    • @anz10
      @anz10 Před 5 lety +1

      yes but that's why they tested the data in every possible way to try and rule out bias but it still over and over again produced an image of a black center. They even split up into various teams and still came up with essentially the same thing

    • @iampracticingpiano
      @iampracticingpiano Před 5 lety

      @@anz10 I agree. This is, for me, the most inspiring scientific achievement of this new century and I have thought of little else since the "image" was released. Still, we must never lose our skepticism if science is to progress.

    • @ericpilkington6298
      @ericpilkington6298 Před 5 lety

      ​@@anz10 It seems the groups had a webpage where they compared the images. czcams.com/video/UGL_OL3OrCE/video.html

  • @virajjoshi9316
    @virajjoshi9316 Před 5 lety

    This 1st ever brightening yellow circled with black well like image is really very nice....!!!

  • @ainmiky4620
    @ainmiky4620 Před 5 lety +9

    She's so humble, taking moments to emphasize the importance of her co-workers in developing the famous algorithm. Props to youuuuu

    • @mareksykora5197
      @mareksykora5197 Před 5 lety +3

      Of course. She was just one very small wheel in the team, but stupid mainstream writers presented her as a "new Einstein", who made it. Very bad position for her to get these "woman hero creators" back to the ground.

    • @ainmiky4620
      @ainmiky4620 Před 5 lety +2

      @@mareksykora5197 i know right! the media and most of the articles I've read really just labeled her as the feminist Messiah, even tho I'm sure she really wasn't giving a crap about all that when she was doing the project. The misandry in the articles were really the underlying purpose for the writers in writing them. It's like Katie didn't even have a choice on how the world would view her due to the articles causing a misrepresented image of her to foster in the people's mind.

    • @debrawehrly9551
      @debrawehrly9551 Před 3 lety +1

      @@mareksykora5197 could you have done any better?

    • @mareksykora5197
      @mareksykora5197 Před 3 lety

      @@debrawehrly9551 Not me, but thirty her colleagues can do it very well.

  • @koaladelespace
    @koaladelespace Před 4 lety +2

    What is the precise use of interferometry into the data combination? Radiowaves are received and measured by the eight EHT telescopes, they are synchronized and put together at the correlator, but I don't understand how interferometry, ie analyzing the combination of waves, help to form the black hole image, or at least giving the puzzle pieces which will be used by the algorithms to determine the black hole image.
    Basically, I don't understand very long baseline interferometry...

  • @MagicPlants
    @MagicPlants Před 5 lety +5

    Astounding... I'm so proud of science... Great job team!!!

  • @jonathanmatthews4774
    @jonathanmatthews4774 Před 5 lety

    I am SO nerding out right now.

  • @RaysAstrophotography
    @RaysAstrophotography Před 5 lety +6

    Caltech found inspiring Professor! Congratulations Katie! Best wishes!

  • @WilliamDye-willdye
    @WilliamDye-willdye Před 5 lety

    Are the slides available online? It's difficult to read some of them, such as the blue-on-black lettering at 47:28.

  • @rajahua6268
    @rajahua6268 Před 3 měsíci

    This video provides more clarity to that of Kip Thorne's. We live in an unbelievable exciting time. Thanks

  • @KrustyKlown
    @KrustyKlown Před 5 lety +1

    Katie is a wonderful role model for young people today ... well done!

  • @Jason-vn5xj
    @Jason-vn5xj Před 5 lety

    I would love to know if the JWST will be able to provide a data point that helps with the atmospheric noise problem.

    • @JM-us3fr
      @JM-us3fr Před 5 lety +2

      Unfortunately, JWST observes in a much smaller wavelength. What we need is to get these interferometry techniques to generalize to different wavelengths, though I suspect the smaller the wavelength, the more difficult it is to do this kind of interferometry.

  • @booklover3959
    @booklover3959 Před 4 lety +4

    What a great lecture. Thank you for sharing your knowledge professor. You passion and love for this advancement in science is infectious. Congratulations on becoming a teacher at Caltech. It is so nice to see someone with a joyful glow about education and starting out on their journey. I wish you many years of joyful exploration and adventure.

  • @noonward
    @noonward Před 5 lety +2

    h e c k y e a h fun lecture to watch, all of the images in the presentation were super interesting, really excited to learn about more observations that come out

  • @sinagholoubi6515
    @sinagholoubi6515 Před 2 lety +2

    she is a really amazing character! her parent must be so proud

  • @michaelbauers8800
    @michaelbauers8800 Před 5 lety +4

    This helps a lot in understanding the process. Thanks a lot for this. I wish I had that math to understand how Baysian idea can be used in this clean algorithm.

    • @magno5157
      @magno5157 Před 5 lety +1

      If you're interested, check out "maximum a priori" or MAP. It's a relatively simple Bayesian estimation method. All you need is some very basic knowledge in Statistics and Calculus.

  • @anjayapant
    @anjayapant Před 4 lety

    CONGRATULATIONS!Dr. Katie Bouman.HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU KATIE JI

  • @LaylaVaughan
    @LaylaVaughan Před 5 lety

    Is there a transcript available ?

  • @mmanzur
    @mmanzur Před 4 lety

    Awesome and great accomplishment, more likely an approximation of how black hole looks like

  • @8LAUDY
    @8LAUDY Před 5 lety

    I love you.. Katie... thank you and your team for what you guys achive.

    • @cymoonrbacpro9426
      @cymoonrbacpro9426 Před 5 lety

      Laudy Acero Katie is nothing but a technician, why? *There’s no innovation here, it is just an application*
      These images are called virtual images because they are processed and Created using data, in other words, it is not a photograph.
      In fact, since 1981 the process of creating pictures Using multiple radio telescope signals has been reported: CONTINUED TECHNOLOGICAL IMPROVEMENTS ASSIST VLBI EXPERIMENTS.-
      The rapid pace of recent astronomical discoveries has been largely due to the accelerated rate of technological advance. New techniques such as very long baseline radio interferometry and *computer picture processing have improved the resolution or clarity of observations by several orders of magnitude.*
      Creating a virtual picture and interpreting a picture are two different processes. Conclusion; Many of these techniques have been conceived by Others before, and goes back to the 1950s , in other words, these Young people are riding on the shoulders of giants.

  • @shi2222
    @shi2222 Před 5 lety +4

    I feel like this is a scene of a really cool movie. Man, I love this lovely lady 💗

  • @Joker9586
    @Joker9586 Před 5 lety +2

    What an amazing presentation! Thanks for sharing

  • @RicoChavez1
    @RicoChavez1 Před 5 lety

    I'm wondering - I heard about shoebox satellites, but don't know if they would be large enough to have the receiving power. Perhaps clusters of them is a couple of orbits?

  • @pairadeau
    @pairadeau Před 5 lety

    Ear mi now Katie Bouman! Bless Up!

  • @sjzara
    @sjzara Před 5 lety +2

    This is a once-in-a-century achievement. I'm amazed at how the telescope was positioned so accurately. I would imagine that the slightest breeze would cause a massive shift of a radio telescope dish on the scale of the image.

    • @pratikmaitra8543
      @pratikmaitra8543 Před 5 lety +2

      The image is not a standard inage taken like a selfie. It is a computer rendered or reconstructed image using an algorithm. You can look up radio telescope inferometry.

    • @sjzara
      @sjzara Před 5 lety

      Pratik Maitra yes, but even so, positioning is critical.

  • @zapfanzapfan
    @zapfanzapfan Před 5 lety +4

    Amazing work! Can't wait for a couple of orbiting radio telescopes, maybe in Earth-Moon L4 and L5, that would make a pretty decent diameter telescope :-)

  • @piano5871
    @piano5871 Před rokem +1

    I read this on a book, now it is on youtube so exciting!

  • @vatsalnagelia6261
    @vatsalnagelia6261 Před 5 lety +1

    If the cluster ring was facing us then an image like the movie interstellar could be formed since image would travel from the back of the black hole and appear from top and bottom,both being equally bright because coming from the behind of the black hole

  • @jamskof
    @jamskof Před 4 lety +1

    but the big question is, does the black hole have wifi and will i be able to download more ram?

  • @RayRay-zt7bj
    @RayRay-zt7bj Před 5 lety +2

    This is so amazing! It is a huge step in space science and astrophysics. I would love to see a reaction video of when the team got the first images of the black hole.

  • @virajjoshi9316
    @virajjoshi9316 Před 5 lety

    Whether Evolution of molecules affected by that high dense gravity & gravitational lensing of light?

  • @xltpn1
    @xltpn1 Před 5 lety +1

    Congrats to Dr. Bouman and the rest of the team. A staggering achievement....

  • @peorakef
    @peorakef Před 5 lety

    2:16 thats only light coming from the opposite side, isnt it? if light were to come laterally, the "ring" would be filled wouldnt it?

  • @corcon6976
    @corcon6976 Před 5 lety +1

    This was an excellent presentation. I enjoyed it and understood a lot.

  • @massimoacerbis8138
    @massimoacerbis8138 Před 5 lety +1

    Have we been pretty lucky on the size of the measurement ?
    I mean
    If the wavelength to be measured would require e lens the size the double of earth diamater that would have been impossibile with today technology with telescope placed on earth
    Is that correct ?
    Thx

    • @Ni999
      @Ni999 Před 5 lety +1

      It's important to not confuse wavelength with the (angle of measurement + signal strength).
      The radio/infrared frequencies here are easily measured. Understand that -
      frequency = speed/wavelength
      wavelength = speed/frequency
      And speed is a given, in this case it's basically *_c_* so you can use the terms frequency and wavelength as you prefer or need to describe a signal.
      Next you have to consider signal strength. If you have Bluetooth headphones, they're operating on a wavelength of about 12.2 cm. You can't use them 100 feet away from your source (for example, your cell phone) because the signal isn't that strong. But we might if you had a specially-designed directional antenna that you could point right at your phone from that far away. And let's look from behind you, to straight overhead, to in front of you - that's about 180° and the other 180° is the ground below you and the horizons. How big is your cell phone at a hundred feet away? I think that you'll find it's less than 1° tall in your 180° sky. So if we really, really want to pick up just your phone we'll want to really focus that directional antenna.
      And if we want to get really, really tight focus and lots of sensitivity to that signal that's so weak, we want a really large antenna.
      _That's where the diameter comes in to play if we want to do the exact same thing for radio astronomy._
      There are 60 arcminutes in a degree, 60 arcseconds in an arcminute. This black hole was measured with a 1/1000 arcseconds accuracy using the face of the earth. But compare it to the 1/100000 arcsecond measurements possible with an orbiting radio telescope, effectively 220,000 miles in diameter -
      _Spektr-R - Wikipedia_
      en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spektr-R
      And we can use similar tricks with visible light to get a 3D view of the stars.
      _How the Gaia Galaxy-Mapping Satellite Works (Infographic) | Space_
      www.space.com/24023-how-the-gaia-galaxy-mapping-satellite-works-infographic.html

  • @AMR-bf8nx
    @AMR-bf8nx Před 5 lety

    Would collisions of mini black holes in some sort of accelerator generate detectable gravitational waves?

    • @Ni999
      @Ni999 Před 5 lety

      Accelerators don't produce mini black holes so that part of the question is out. Theoretically, you could take something very massive and oscillate it to create a gravitational wave and that would be the realistic version of your question. The answer is that was considered very early on and we have nothing near the technology needed to produce a detector with the necessary sensitivity.

    • @SilenceAngelic
      @SilenceAngelic Před 5 lety

      The black holes produced by an accelerator would be too small and wouldn't last long enough. Gravity is a function of mass, and you'd be talking about mass equivalents in the ludicrously tiny range.

    • @Ni999
      @Ni999 Před 5 lety

      @@SilenceAngelic If they were produced, they would evaporate *almost* immediately, no question. There's no question that the LHC *might* have created, or might create, miniature black holes that would either be detected evaporating or hitting escape velocity and drilling all the way out to deep space and beyond. That's been looked for since the first collisions there but it hasn't been seen yet. If or when it does happen, we'll have the first experimental evidence supporting string theory and I think we'll all hear about it. Unless I missed something that you have a reference to cite, I'll be happy for the correction.

  • @MatthewSuffidy
    @MatthewSuffidy Před 5 lety

    Although the shadow works for the light source configured as shown, I am not totally sure how it works for other positioned light sources. I guess you may get a shadow for any light sources behind the black hole relative to the viewer from any angle. It is hard to know what the actual accretion disc has to do with the hole. It is also a debate still whether there is actual matter inside the black hole. I don't know how they got the data together but it may had to have to do with using each telescope as a group of pixel inputs rather than an image map. Also it must be very accurate how the telescopes are tilted, and maybe you'd want 2 reference points to scale and translate.

  • @Markoul11
    @Markoul11 Před 5 lety +12

    Charming young scientist and a damn good one.

  • @petersimard3538
    @petersimard3538 Před 5 lety +1

    impressive young lady - seems nervous - but she explained things well and showed a large amount of interest in the topic being discussed

    • @BingDwenDwen
      @BingDwenDwen Před 5 lety +2

      She is not nervous, its obviously just her nerdy personality.

    • @petersimard3538
      @petersimard3538 Před 5 lety +1

      @@BingDwenDwen well that's your opinion and you are entitled to it.

  • @theespatier4456
    @theespatier4456 Před 5 lety

    What date is this from?

  • @kdeliass
    @kdeliass Před 5 lety

    Such a cool acomplishment! And great presentation!

  • @virajjoshi9316
    @virajjoshi9316 Před 5 lety +1

    Whether there is any impact on age of human being by black hole?

  • @SigmaJAD
    @SigmaJAD Před 5 lety +3

    Amazing presentation Katie. Congrats on a truly remarkable achievement.

  • @joyecolbeck4490
    @joyecolbeck4490 Před 5 lety +7

    What a fantastic presentation. Thanks for all your hard work.

  • @afarhan21
    @afarhan21 Před 5 lety

    Why does the date says June 1, 2019? It's April 15, 2019 today.

    • @michaelbauers8800
      @michaelbauers8800 Před 5 lety

      I guessed it was when her official start date for being an assistant professor is.

  • @tads73
    @tads73 Před 5 lety +2

    Is it correct to say, the black hole`s event horizon is a swirl of light, encompassing 360 degrees. But we only see the light/radiation that is directed towards earth?

  • @Wilifeee
    @Wilifeee Před 5 lety

    So inspiring

  • @quentincastelli4150
    @quentincastelli4150 Před 5 lety +23

    (non native be kind plz)
    When they first released the image, the world was in awe, for a few hours. And then they her name appeared in the medias.
    And as usual, people spoiled everything.
    We had Dr Matt Taylor, critised for his shirt by feminist.
    And now Dr Katie Bouman critised because the media focused on her (because she's young and a woman?!).
    Her Colleague HAD to speak to defend her and about the backlack she recieved.
    That's why we can't have nice things, we've got incredible achievement, and yet the focus is something futile.
    I hope she'll be strong enough, if she sees the horrible comments her detractors made, to pursue her academic career.
    Thank you Dr. Katie Bouman and everyone who worked on the project.

    • @iunnox666
      @iunnox666 Před 5 lety +4

      The media framed it as if she was entirely responsible for the image, when all she did was add code to a preexisting algorithm. Not that she necessarily deserves criticism, but she played one of the smallest parts in that project and is being propped up as if she did it all herself.
      The media is to blame, as soon as they see a woman doing something they have to make a hero out of them.

    • @Ni999
      @Ni999 Před 5 lety +7

      @@iunnox666 Whoa. Stop right there. Her own teammates have publicly debunked the reddit bullshit statement that all she did was add a few lines to existing algorithms. She was a lead designer of one of the new algorithms, not some junior code monkey.
      Yes, it was a team effort - but don't throw out her contributions just to say that. No one on the team has that coming.

    • @trader025
      @trader025 Před 5 lety

      The story has been corrected by the imaging lead from Japan and other members on Twitter. If this is a lesson in anything you do not engage the media unless it's in a clearly scripted concise way.
      [twitter.com/SaraIssaoun/status/1116304522660519936](twitter.com/SaraIssaoun/status/1116304522660519936)
      [twitter.com/sparse\_k/status/1116785802367918080](twitter.com/sparse_k/status/1116785802367918080)

    • @cymoonrbacpro9426
      @cymoonrbacpro9426 Před 5 lety

      Quentin Castelli To be kind is important, but to to to be truthful this more important. Here’s some facts; Katie is nothing but a technician, why? *There’s no innovation here, it is just an application*
      These images are called virtual images because they are processed and Created using data, in other words, it is not a photograph.
      In fact, since 1981 the process of creating pictures Using multiple radio telescope signals has been reported: CONTINUED TECHNOLOGICAL IMPROVEMENTS ASSIST VLBI EXPERIMENTS.-
      The rapid pace of recent astronomical discoveries has been largely due to the accelerated rate of technological advance. New techniques such as very long baseline radio interferometry and *computer picture processing have improved the resolution or clarity of observations by several orders of magnitude.*
      Creating a virtual picture and interpreting a picture are two different processes. Conclusion; Many of these techniques have been conceived by Others before, and goes back to the 1950s , in other words, these Young people are riding on the shoulders of giants.

    • @Ni999
      @Ni999 Před 5 lety +2

      @@cymoonrbacpro9426 Every digital photo you have ever seen is a virtual photo by your definition. Your bias that there cannot possibly be anything new under the sun here is proof that you have no idea whatsoever is involved in the process or how it advances. To call the woman merely a technician is asinine.
      Disclosure - I'm a former team member that helped develop space-based digital imaging systems still operating today. Spare me your explanation of whose shoulders she stood on and I'll spare you the list of whose I stood on. Along with Einstein, Hawking, and everyone else you care to name.
      There are no lone wolves in science. Katie did really well and deserves the credit given.
      Get over it.

  • @maxziebell4013
    @maxziebell4013 Před 5 lety +8

    Pattern recognition and training A.I. Amazing to see that this "new" methods and awesome creativity in applying them are making such a big impact. Bicycle for the mind, indeed.

    • @imranq9241
      @imranq9241 Před 5 lety

      Max Ziebell Steve Jobs I think right?

    • @Ebani
      @Ebani Před 5 lety

      @@imranq9241 Steve Jobs what? He was a CEO

    • @imranq9241
      @imranq9241 Před 5 lety

      He was the one who came up with the bicycle for the mind analogy

  • @Charly1125
    @Charly1125 Před 5 lety

    te amamos Katie,,, eres la más grande genia de nuestro tiempo.... aunque no entiendo inglés, sé que tu presentación debe ser genial...

    • @tut54as
      @tut54as Před 5 lety +1

      Espero que hayas entendido al menos la primera parte de su presentación, en donde ella dice que la prensa lo ha hecho ver como si solo ella sola fue la responsable de la imagen. Fue un mérito de trabajo de equipo, que se ha venido realizando por varios años. No dudo que Katie es una genia, en absoluto. Pero hasta ella misma se siente incómoda que la prensa y los medios la representen como la única a cargo del proyecto.

  • @rishimenon5632
    @rishimenon5632 Před 5 lety +2

    2:34 we can see the light only when photons enters our eye (based on my understanding). so in an ideal case where photons revolve perfectly around the black hole, it wouldnt be the brightest. on the contrary, it would be dark as no photons enter our eye. Could someone clarify my confusion
    Edit: thanks for clarifying !

    • @rishimenon5632
      @rishimenon5632 Před 5 lety

      yes so will we be able to see that orbit ?

    • @Andy-qy8wj
      @Andy-qy8wj Před 5 lety +2

      you're right. The minimum we can see of the 'photon sphere' from our positon is that light that grazes the photon sphere and escapes toward our eye, which corresponds to around 2.6 times the event horizon

  • @tanmoybanerjee6275
    @tanmoybanerjee6275 Před 5 lety

    How is it june 1 at the start of the video 😅😅

  • @jamielecomte6739
    @jamielecomte6739 Před 5 lety +3

    So much excitement for science, very infectious ;-)

  • @avijitbehera2661
    @avijitbehera2661 Před 5 lety +1

    Congrats

  • @gitlet3548
    @gitlet3548 Před 5 lety +1

    That's a ton of work that's being presented. And she clearly knows what she's talking about! Respect

  • @Chef_MDT2nd
    @Chef_MDT2nd Před 2 lety +1

    She is just fantastic I'm brand new here but she explains things in a way even a nauvis like I can understand 🤔 Thank you ma'am 😉 🌐🌟

  • @sergiofalcao3691
    @sergiofalcao3691 Před 5 lety +1

    Her enthusiasm is itself very contagious. :)

  • @gold333
    @gold333 Před 5 lety +1

    How does she say Sagittarius?

  • @RicoChavez1
    @RicoChavez1 Před 5 lety

    I'd love to know what theories there are for it being brighter on "the bottom" part of the ring!
    Oops - just got to 49:10 !

  • @globalko
    @globalko Před 5 lety

    This method would also work if we have multiple telescopes in space then we can avoid atmospheric noise in the signals

  • @tylermartin9225
    @tylermartin9225 Před 5 lety

    Is it bad that I was wondering about “what software she used to create this slide show” the whole time, rather than the scientific feat which was just accomplished?

    • @magno5157
      @magno5157 Před 5 lety +1

      Nope it's not. I'd like to know too. Maybe it's just as simple as Powerpoint or Keynote.

  • @fazerlazer8020
    @fazerlazer8020 Před 5 lety +87

    "we have a class in here" bruh class is canceled let her answer the world's questions lol

  • @za012345678998765432
    @za012345678998765432 Před 5 lety +65

    let's tile the solar system with telescopes!
    great presentation, thanks!

    • @coolbionicle
      @coolbionicle Před 5 lety

      Then lets call that array The Singularity Telescope

    • @mushfek
      @mushfek Před 5 lety

      💌💗💖💟💞💕💌 yay! :jump:

    • @ottolehikoinen6193
      @ottolehikoinen6193 Před 5 lety +3

      Tried to do a break up of this but the amount of info is a bit too much for one go... Some correction may be needed.
      01:00 M87 location
      02:00 how light bends according theory
      3:45 Hubble vs. EHT, selecting the wavelenght
      5:50 general description of EHT and interferometry (why atomic clocks?)
      6:40 in VLBI measurements done with pairs of telescopes (earth rotation must be accounted for)
      8:20 Correlator supercomputer is an automated signal enhancer, using atomic clock data.
      9:48 the usual method of enhancing sparse data is CLEAN, type of fourier transform, VLBI has special problems so...
      11:40 list of known potential errors, phase error due light travel path, 2d image frequency space,
      13:25 LMT example of horrible measurement, low gain due pointing error, test images of other target objects
      14:55 single telescope errors may be alleviated with other telescopes data, the algorithms essential for VLBI (two types)
      17:20 the method of her expertise is Bayesian (images can't be too accurate?)
      18:40 3-4 telescopes data is needed to get rid of much of phase and amplitude errors (atmospheric effects largely eliminated)
      20:15 human bias. Feeding the algorithms various images to see how much data still recovers some of the original... Blind tests by 4 groups using several methods
      25:10 Blind tests on real data of M87* and other targets.
      28:30 the 4 teams reveal their images to each other.
      There are bits I'm not too sure of so take the above with caution. I think I better stop here in order to not misrepresent the rest.

    • @za012345678998765432
      @za012345678998765432 Před 5 lety +1

      @@ottolehikoinen6193 Hey man, it's awesome, but maybe you should post it as a comment (instead of a reply) so people would see it

    • @ottolehikoinen6193
      @ottolehikoinen6193 Před 5 lety

      @@za012345678998765432 tried that and it got buried among other comments, also, made that on the third time watching this and I'm still not sure if that's all properly done.

  • @desigeekchishi
    @desigeekchishi Před 5 lety

    what language they might have used ?

    •  Před 3 lety

      Pascal

  • @dazzid
    @dazzid Před 5 lety +1

    49:37 I wish Katie has explained also about the translational speed of the matter related to the innermost stable orbit and accretion disc, as well, why the disc seems to be more or less oriented to us. One more question, what is the theoretical shape of the black-hole? is it a hypersphere, for sure not a simple sphere.

  • @deanazcoolzi4382
    @deanazcoolzi4382 Před 2 lety

    Thanks Katie, I seen a comet tail maybe or Cresent shaped polarized object passing under our sun or into it I can't judge depth and it was cool. LSD

  • @jasminq2995
    @jasminq2995 Před 5 lety +1

    Amazing! She's so young and has done such great things with love! Although I didn't quite understand the lecture....

  • @richardcalvache1
    @richardcalvache1 Před 5 lety +1

    How is possible this video makes me cry?

  • @MrTommy4000
    @MrTommy4000 Před 5 lety

    She's a keeper. %100 all in.

  • @RajSingh-yp9yn
    @RajSingh-yp9yn Před 5 lety

    Great. Congratulation.

  • @mrmiyagi5
    @mrmiyagi5 Před 5 lety +1

    Yeah. But can she do CSS floats?

  • @bengy757
    @bengy757 Před 5 lety

    Dr. Katie Bouman, congratulations for your work. Can you imagine it the importance that this it's meaning? It represents a new way of making optics on a lot of fields. From Bogotá, Colombia thank you for your goals in science.

  • @mojilmohammed5221
    @mojilmohammed5221 Před 5 lety

    Why don’t you put similar telescopes in the moon and the earth together and do the same trick. Can this improve the apparent size of the telescope?

    • @magno5157
      @magno5157 Před 5 lety

      Putting telescopes *IN* the Moon would be useless.

  • @SkyDarmos
    @SkyDarmos Před 5 lety

    Photon rings are at 1.5 of the Schwarzschild radius, but I guess you mean the accretion disk ...

  • @AlphaFoxDelta
    @AlphaFoxDelta Před 5 lety +3

    Kudos! You're all the best!

  • @echepr
    @echepr Před 5 lety

    as of June 1, 2019?

    • @eastwestcoastkid
      @eastwestcoastkid Před 5 lety

      That’s when she takes up her position as assistant professor at Caltech.

  • @janpahl6015
    @janpahl6015 Před 5 lety

    thanks to the 200 brilliant scientist, mathematicians, engineers, statisticians, computer science team and the big data analysis team, coordinators and the public and private institutions that founded this team and the people that came before for make this image became true... I don´t have words to thanks this himalayas of people in decades of theoretical and applied fields, and the Science methodologists experts and the outside collaborators of the team

    • @janpahl6015
      @janpahl6015 Před 5 lety

      next step, gravitational waves images!!!!!!!

  • @virajjoshi9316
    @virajjoshi9316 Před 5 lety

    What's mean by Isoelectric constant of amino acids?

  • @IRex-wm9pd
    @IRex-wm9pd Před 5 lety +39

    Congrats Katie. Ignore the haters.

    • @yvonne3745
      @yvonne3745 Před 5 lety +7

      @Neil Mo more like people who think they are on the right side but they are not

    • @Teadon86
      @Teadon86 Před 5 lety +15

      Actually, most of those 'haters' have accurately noted that she was part of a team and did not sit in the center of the group effort by contributing disproportionately to the breakthrough. People asked whether media was truthful when they singled out Bouman as the face for the project. This was primarily a group effort that, which the 'haters' got right, what they also got right was that she is not even in the top third contributors (Achael, michaeldjohnson, and chancikwan was the three top contributors by effort and Bouman was the forth, most of her work done April to October), and people on the project that one of the pictures (If I remember correctly it was the one we're all being introduced to the most) her technique was not even used.
      Despite all the above, this was the triumph of a group effort.

    • @Teadon86
      @Teadon86 Před 5 lety +9

      @Throngdorr Mighty I simply have made the observation, like others, that media and high profile individuals with some clout are deliberately fronting Bouman as the brain and/or pioneer behind this amazing feat of engineering because she fits the narrative of muh wamenz!
      Yes, but not all were programmers or did simple scripting, she is not a programmer by the way, so the program they used to render the images of the black hole capturing mass is not mainly her creation (She did about 6%, by some sources, of the programming whilst other did almost 90%) but the effort of a larger team.
      PS. There are videos on CZcams breaking down what she did and didn't and how many participants there are involved in the project.

    • @unlimited971
      @unlimited971 Před 5 lety +6

      @@Teadon86 in short, media were caught red hand yet again to push a narrative. stem, sciences and so many domains are more and more infected and corrupted by the same ideologue who doesn't give a damn about objective truth, fact or logic.

    • @Teadon86
      @Teadon86 Před 5 lety +2

      @@unlimited971 Pretty much. Still, no matter what people say she did or didn't, she is a very smart person.