Moog Minimoog Model D 2022 Reissue! - Jack's Impressions!
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» 0:00 Introducing the Minimoog Model D
» 0:50 A Few Extra Features!
» 1:50 A Spring-Loaded Pitch Wheel!
» 2:30 A New LFO?
» 6:28 Jack's Favourite New Feature!
» 9:25 Jack's Final Thoughts!
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It changed my entire approach to writing music. It is truly inspirational, like a great guitar or violin. A remarkable instrument I never thought would be available again!
I’m saving up for the 2048 reissue. Retirement will be lit!
only $100,000 with 30 year financing.
Expensive but serious collectability potential. It might be the last real Moog that Moog ever makes.
greatest synth of all time. i'll box anyone who says otherwise
Akai Timbre Wolf would like a word with you.
Fite ME!!
🥊
@@dankeplace round 1: ding, ding
@@iwillnevergetone5 ding - dong: Avon calling...
@@dankeplace Timbre Wolf??? Akai's backwater trailer park synth??? It is pure shite.
Thank you!
Sounds as you’d expect, amazing 🔥
Costs far more than you would expect though. Extra LFO tho baby #worth
@@theinternetseekers2436 cost of nothing surprises me anymore.
Moog same as any other big name brand charges anything they like, the demand is always far greater than the supply.
But think we can agree, if we had the money spare we would 😂.
Yes, the D. I can hit lows so low you can't "hear" them, but the neighbors can definitely feel it (and they deserve all the bass I can give them). Lurv it, play it now.
8:55 that overdrive circuit is outrageous 😮❤🎉
Came here to say the same thing! Insane.
had the first reissue and wasn’t impressed by the overdrive. with that said the second reissue does sound a little more different
Opening intro was super smoooooth!!!
Got mine in February and there's something special about sitting down with it, every single time. The simplicity of the machine just speaks to you, in a way. Sure, no one is gonna be able to tell if it's the minimoog, behringer or a plugin version in a mixed track, but the inspiration that strikes when you put your hands on the real deal is something else, and to me worth that hefty price tag. First thing I did when it arrived was creating a drum kit with it haha. It's in a video in my profile and comes with samples.
That said, I do regret having to sell my Subsequent 37 to afford this beast. So at one time or another I will have to get one of those again. It's one of the most flexible monosynths out there.
Oh, I think the diff between Moog and a Burringer would be apparent, even in the mix.
@@DurararaX2 this isn't true and has been proven before, to say you could hear it in a mix is utter bs.
@@dankeplace Hahahaha. How's that Kool Aid taste?
@@DurararaX2 nice deflection, so please do tell how you can tell one synth from another in a mix, you have golden ears do you?
Or Kool Hearing Aids?
@@dankeplace "golden ear", yes, plus Adam monitors, and experience. Why are Burringer fans always so bitter & defensive? Is it bc what happened in '20?
Love you guys......hello from Pennsylvania USA
Nice! Reminds me of my Behringer Model D! 😉
It sounds like the real instrument version of a Behringer Model D or Poly D. There’s nothing wrong with kids toys, though.
@@79GlitchCope harder.
@@scheetmcborsten7977 it's funny when something much cheaper is classified as a "toy" when it can get close sonically, whilst I can appreciated Moog, I sold all my Moog gear, just not for me.
I had a Model D too, again wasn't my cup of tea, but this should never sway others what they like or not.
Car debate: I'd take a Lotus Exige over any more expensive 5 second 60 mph car any time of the day, why? Once you have that 5 second result, it doesn't matter how much more you pay, you have it, so sonically speaking, a Model D can do a lot for very little and this is perfect for the majority of people out there.
@@scheetmcborsten7977 It’ll be hard … but I’ll try. Thanks for the encouraging words, bro!
@@dankeplace Really cool!
drooling
Great quick view plus a few iconic sounds from this landmark synth. Hands down pinnacle of analog monosynths; the interface/workflow in particular have no equal. Materials, components and build quality are as good as it gets. The thing is all the same is true of the midimini v30 for $1800 less and it has even a few more capabilities. Plus I wonder among those who can actually afford it how many appreciate the reality of a truly old school synth vs. something like a sub37? Everyone decides for themselves, but for me personally this (as perfect as it is) vs. the SE + a hydrasynth deluxe or used summit is no contest...
midimini V30 is an awesome synth, no doubt. Model D is about the entire experience, though: sounds, sight, physical presence and weight
@@iwillnevergetone5 You are correct, and I get that. Had I unlimited funds this (and MANY other synths) would be in my collection. I do not so if I personally ever spent even this much getting this ultra level component and build quality plus the extra functionality PLUS a hydrasynth deluxe (or used summit or polybrute) I personally could not pass up, but I total get how someone could. Honestly, Prophet 5 is the only synth as massive on every level as this thing. (Sorry OB-X8, not even close)
@@klstay definitely. the P5 STILL makes me drool every time i see it. it's always been the cousin of the model anyway, from the similar wooden housing to the actual history of Dave aiming to create "a polyphonic minimoog" back in the day. it was either Dave himself or someone at sequential circuits who spoke about that. the two always look awesome stacked together
The £2500 mark would be understandable but over £5200 is pretty crazy. Absolute dream piece of gear though nevertheless!
It's the price you pay when you want that *Made in the USA* label.
There will always be a market, people will always pay.
There will always be substitutes too, much cheaper.
I love mine. Complements my Moog one 16v, grandmother, M32: DFaM etc…
Headed back to my mini D plugin
It’s a cracking little plugin!
Is it me or did that LFO pot look wobbly at 4.45. Mines still in the box so hope all is working ok😮
If you're someone that needs the sound and interface of an exact model D with the Moog name on the label, then I suppose you're willing to pay the price tag. 🤔 It's dang near an artpiece at that price, but it does sound superb, and an ACTUAL minimoog will always be a experience of it's own. Same as using an actual Rhodes or Wurlitzer vs plugins.
Thankfully we live in a golden era of synths where you can get 90+ percent of the way there to getting model D sounds in various physical and software synths, and at a wide range of prices. 🤘
The reissue reissue! Had to sell mine for money and miss it dearly. Now the next best thing for me is CC midi out of my Sub 25 controlling the Model D app. Not even close!
hehe, i sold my 2016 reissue and regret it too. this one sounds better to me though.
Does the afterpressure work smoothly or act as an on off switch which has been noted here and there?
One Day 🥳
09:04 You will have to play the intro to Don't You Want Me Baby, by Human League with this sound:
Not enough. Would be great to get a lot more sounds and a much longer demo of this beast.
I’d imagine a decent use case for the “feedback” loop is to instead use it as your FX send/receive
Jack how is the tuning stability. I have a sub 37 and it is rock solid. But I am old and have used synths all the way back to the 70s and then( what tuning stability ) If it was hot or cold if the gig was wild you where out of tune with everyone else.
Mine has been very solid. But don't have a patch cable hooked up to the pitch input and let it dangle on the side scraping against the stand haha. I sat here one night trying to figure out why the f*ck it change tuning constantly. Finally notised the patch cable hanging from the previous session lol
@@mrnolex thanks for your reply. There is nothing like the sound of a Mini Moog. I have a sub Phatty and a Sub 37 and they are fantastic but I would love a Mini. I have tried to look this up on the web but know one is saying anything about it.
Sad for moog when a spring in the pitch wheel is progress but that wood is gorgeous.
only £5,290.99 too. Might pick up two 😅
I might get a small car, a holiday for a month, probably another big car actually for that.
@@theinternetseekers2436 I think that is the wiser choice for those funds 👍 Jokes aside. No synth in the 21st century should be that price.
It's all relative. My property taxes in the US are 9,000$ a year. Am I paying to much for failing schools, broken roads, criminals doing as they please. I'd rather pay 5200$ for a moog
Yes, it´s amazing and yes, it´s pure heritage. But very pricey 😟. I know the Moog service is excellent, quality superb and my Matriarch and Subsequent37 will be kept forever.
What's interesting is the fact that some of the new features of the Minimoog can be found on another synth ... by Behringer 😉.
When you cancel the word "Poly" from the Poly D and you are using the Poly D in mono mode then you get very close to the Minimoog Model D 2022. I sold my Poly D to get another synth but the Poly D was a very good deal (despite the keyboard that wasn't bad but not of the same quality as my Moogs have).
« Just like in the real plug-in »…yeah at this price point, it makes you wonder the worth of that analog goodness…one year after, still love my moogs, still want one of those, but 6k.. I’m still not ready yet 😅
Thank you for the great Viddy! I was hoping for some input by you or anyone reading this or who has both the Model D and a Voyager. I really love the Model D but also looking at the Voyager, by watching as many You Tube video's as I can it's still hard. I have a Moog One and the Sub 37 so what I hear is the Voyager sounds more like the Moog One flavor to me, and the Model D sounds so raw and so great, it makes me feel the next Synth in the Moog family should be the Model D. I welcome any input thank you. Joe from Litchfield CT
Thank you (Uli) Behringer for doing exactly the right thing!
Damn, such an authentic copy of Poly D! 😅
So... Moog is putting features into the Minimoog that Behringer added for the model D?
😮😂
Those features were already on the 2016 Minimoog reissue. The Behringer model D actually came in 2018 :) And if you want to be picky, Behringer forgot the Glide ON/OFF switch on their module.
They are also known as the "Recall" edition along with all the others lol.
It’s sizzlicious!
"We learn from the hate" - Awesome attitude to have as a buisness.
I bought a couple of raffle tickets. Hope I win! I’d love to have one. I had the Behringer Model D, but the lack of keyboard (I prefer synths I can treat as standalone instruments… I’d I’m using a controller, I’d rather just use a VST honestly) and the small knobs led to me selling it. Would be a delight to pair it with my P10.
Good luck, fingers crossed.
I just bought a 2016 reissue. It’s everything you’d imagine and more. A joy to play. Nothing comes close really
Why haven’t you guys done a Push3 video? 🤔
they don’t sell them
Sounds incredible but at that price it’s gonna be a hard pass unfortunately.
Even compared to the Moog Matriarch, which IMHO is the new GOAT.
@@daemonelectricity I think I might agree with you, but I would need to spend at least a few weeks with one to know - maybe this fall...
@@daemonelectricity I had the matriarch for about a year and it's something completely different in comparison. Same with the Voyager. In my opinion after using all of them there is a thump, bang, sprrr and bonk in the Minimoog that just isn't present in the matriarch nor the Voyager. I do love them all though but for totally different tasks. A subsequent 37 + a Matriarch would probably be money best spent unless you have a really fat wallet. But like you said the matriarch might be the goat when we look back on this in about a decade or so.
Guys, this is a purely emotional decision. Let’s be honest, with the quality of the plugins in the market today, we barely need any hardware synth. I bought mine the day Moog released it. I have the serial number 14 😂. And what do I have for $5k? 1) fat and iconic sounds of the historical Moog Model D; 2) an absolutely beautiful piece of hardware that I feel good by only looking at; 3) a piece of history, the same synth I heard being played by “monster” of music, many of them my idols. So, it’s really a lot of money and absolutely not justified by only the sounds it produces. If you’re only looking for that sound, there are quite many excellent options out there, soft or hardware. Does it make sense? I don’t play it that much, but when I tweak it and record something for a song, it’s pure pleasure. ❤
@@mrnolex I agree that the Matriarch is a beast in its own right. It doesn't replace the Minimoog, though it can probably do a lot of stuff that the Minimoog can't. When taking to account the price difference, I find that the Matriarch gives much more bang for your buck. It sounds beautiful unpatched, and with patches you can interact with modular and take it to another level.
Seriously though at this price range I'd rather just go all in on a poly like the OB-X8. But I can't lie that I'm still at least a little bit tempted to sell a kidney and a couple other organs for a Minimoog.
Miss the Falcon 😶 Five grand?!
Poly D $499 ….. M$$g model D $5000 🤔……. Such a hard choice
I get it
It's a niche thing
the price is insane, moog totally lost it.
Is this a Behringer clone ?
Sounds great! but price and no presets... will be not mine...
Yeah the no presets kill me, I ended getting a subharmonicon 25 instead 😅
Never in stock though 🤷🏼♂️
exactly. for the people who cry about it being too expensive: clearly it's not haha
@@iwillnevergetone5 haha can’t build them fast enough
Probably only buy 1 at once or order if you buy them.
It's nice, but not something I would buy, just not my cup of tea.
Thx for the upload broski!!!
are you more of a korg guy
Hey Mr. Jack can you hang onto that thing long enough to try a comparison with a sub-37 seeing you are the comparison guru. Pay no attention to that old ego boost trick. LOL.
At that price I'll stick with my Voyager...
It’s a shame/pity that Moog abandoned the Voyager. We need a new Voyager2.
@@Spektralfarben-Music I was such a good evolution of the original concept - I love the extra features on the voyager, I think I'd find a Model D quite limiting now. A Voyager 2 would be amazing - would love to see some MoogerFooger effects built in - reverb, delay, phaser!
🤔🤔🤔🤔Voyager 2 would be around $8000,😃
@@lpn369 With Moog, that would not be impossible 😩
@@lpn369 Might as well get a Moog One 8 voice at that point :D
4:49 Jesus H Christ!
I so wish I had the cash money mula it takes to get one of these freaking bad larrys
i got the gandmother Which is basically like a minimoog tbh
@@colourbasscolourbassweapon2135 it’s not. My Matriarch would be closer, and that's not close to my ears.
@@vaiman7777 It's based of the system 15 and the minimoog Voyager So you're right and wrong at time same time aka yes and no
@@vaiman7777 dam really is this true like are they like the same vco tho? That's weird if they're not fr
@@colourbasscolourbassweapon2135 It's not. It's more the same concept and actually better unless you're specifically after the Model D sound.
They must think everyone has trent reznors bank account..
Looks like a Behringer PolyD with only three oscillators.
@jackduxberry are you good for a loan>>>>>>>>??😁
This is the synth equivalent of a custom shop gibson or master built fender. You dont really get anything extra for the money.
Its a nice thing, but synth heads are far more value conscious than guitar heads, they just queue up to overpay for sh1t.
Moog churning out prs private stock synths. I guess there's a market for it. Will make a nice piece if expensive furniture on some rich kid's studio of expensive items to take pictures of for facebook groups.
Facebook synth envy is becoming a common thing I’ve noticed.
@@vaiman7777 I think it's more the opposite way around. Facebook groups has become another tool for the overt display of wealth. Only about 10% of people that show off rooms full of expensive vintage synths and other gear, actually churn out any music with it. It's a bit sad really.
Seen it in old school BMX, VW stuff, Vintage hifi etc.
I reckon they wouldn't buy even half of what they have without the vehicle of social media to show it off with.
I guess that's where we're at now.
@@the_JTowny There is that. Same in the Behringer group I left. ‘Poor’ musicians posting pictures of racks of B gear. One 3 tier is a grand, but they are poor and struggling. Also no music.
Weird times we live in
Well, at least it’s a MiniMoog with the SAME manufacturer this time on the market (!) …. 😮
Man when you start to crank that feedback loop?! At least this is for me a ‘completely unattainable’ synth. A unicorn. Pointless pining for. Most of the synths on my imaginary wish list are completely unattainable to be fair but this is get a fu€%in grip of yourself unless you want to start selling your organs completely unattainable. I’d quite like one though…
@ghost mall fair point well made! I’m sold! Haha! I’m already scanning the local banks and jewellers to see who has the most lax security!
@ghost mall you sir have yourself a deal! 😂 I’m gonna get a Pro 3 as well now! 😂
ltd edition of a reissue that was a ltd edition reissue...hmmm ...t....
The Minis don't just sound good. To quote Ali, "....so pretty!"
Just not worth it for £5k given there are very decent software implementations of the MM available.
Standing on stage at Wembley with an iPad isn’t the same. Even in flares
@@vaiman7777 If I were playing to Wembley Arena I wouldn't be posting here....
@@michaelreid5307 his argument holds no weight, TGD used 2 TR8s when they toured Melbourne in 2014, controlled by Ableton, for the live Sorcerer viewing.
Artists will use what ever tech they want, where ever they are.
@@michaelreid5307 Famous people use CZcams! My point was, it may not be worth it to you, but it certainly is to others.
And that Danky guy above just follows me about, weird...
@@vaiman7777 If I'm on tour then software & a decent midi kB & controller is far more practical than a single synth that cannot recall stored patches. They are also easily replaceable if they go wrong - which happens.
Plenty of phatulence.
But it's 2023. How long have you been sitting on this video!? 🤨
It’s awesome, but very expensive. No thank you
Not sure who this is aimed at apart from someone very rich. £5000 FFS!
It’s not worth $5,000. It’s worth maybe $2,500. Maybe. Imagine everything you could’ve gotten for $5,000 and you decided to get this. A 2008 Honda Civic? No, minimoog reissue. Down payment on a house? No, minimoog reissue. Entire DJ set, or 3 sequential poly synths, or a digitakt, octatrack, syntakt, and analog rhytm? No, minimoog reissue. Good choice!
It’s worth what someone is willing to pay for it
@@Answersonapostcard it’s a plot designed by staffers at Moog to keep their vintage gear values artificially high. If you’re too dense to see that then go ahead and buy one? It’s called a racket. Maybe read a book before you start talking about the philosophies behind the free market.
@@gregbeaudry Maybe not a good idea to insult people who you disagree with. Blocked.
@@gregbeaudry Its more like they’re giving people what they want AND trying to remain a profitable company at the same time?
Everyone criticizes Roland for not making reissues of their vintage classics. But now Moog and Oberheim are the bad guys because they did what everyone asked for?
And how does Moog benefit from somebody selling a vintage Moog at a ridiculous price on Ebay? Those synths are priced that way …or a Jupiter 8, or a CS-80 … because there is a very limited supply, and there ARE enough people willing to pay for them.
When is the last time someone criticized Steinway for selling million dollar grand pianos? Should we be up in arms about the Japanese company that makes Stradivarius violins that sell for more than a million dollars … for a small piece of wood with strings? Should be people be mad at custom Ferraris that sell for millions because it drives up the price of vintage Ferraris?
No offense, but that’s a really dum dum argument (that’s me being polite)
Moog is a pretty small operation, they’re employee owned, and they have run into financial issues in the past. If cashing in on their legacy keeps the company moving along and buys them time and resources to develop and create new products for us (which is a LOT harder than just copying what someone else has done and getting a clone mass produced in China), then I would be happy to support Moog doing a premium re-issue of one of their older products every few years of so. Who wouldn’t be thrilled to see a new, stable version of the MemoryMoog come out?
100% worth the price.
@@79Glitch Moog isn't a small operation, they're not a 10 man team, they get things made in China and assembled in the US.
They copy themselves and use China for manufacture, so again most your points are moot.
Moog here to remind you that you can't afford to be a part of their club
Yea the behringer sounds 90 percent equal for $300, $4700 difference, stop it moog, 10 years ago the reissue was $3000. These companies have lost it..
I have two real Model D’s. One is from 1981, other is a reissue from a handful of years ago. And I have the Behringer. The Behringer sounds 100% identical to the reissue, once you get used to dialing in the sounds.
Are you kidding? We tried one at a music store and it was nothing like the new minimoog. The behringer quality control is terrible also it had a much thinner sound than the real deal.
@@akamrkris Like I said, you have to get used to dialing in the sound. I had the same initial impression. The knobs are very small so it can be hard to tell what’s going on and if you’re not careful you can screw up your own sound without realizing why. I almost returned mine before I figured this out.
@@akamrkris I had a minimoog, and its close 95%
Way closer than 90%
wow so they copied the LFO Section from the Behringer Poly D? srsly?
Greed BS
Price tag .. ... but then ... a custom shop axe is 'bout the same ... and here you do get a classic with some modern connectivity and some smothly integrated ++ features/functions ... key newbies like me are comfy with a virtual MOOG ... but this is the real thing